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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4932
04-16-2008 09:54 PM ET (US)

Good job Spider! I'm glad they got them right, they look purty.
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4933
04-17-2008 01:16 AM ET (US)
WE ARE FINALLY SELLING OUR VINTAGE COWBOY BOOT COLLECTION - ALMOST ALL OF IT - AT THE GUITAR SHOW IN DALLAS TEXAS AT MARKET HALL - IT OPENS TO THE PUBLIC ON FRIDAY, APRIL, 18TH AND WE WILL BE THERE UNTIL DUSK ON SUNDAY-
WE HAVE OVER 200 PAIR OF FINE VINTAGE AND COLLECTIBLE BOOTS IN SIZES FROM
A LADIES VINTAGE 2 THRU FINE VINTAGE MENS SIZE 13...........
THIS IS OUR 16TH YEAR AT THE GUITAR SHOW - IT IS THE ONLY TIME EACH YEAR
THAT WE PULL ALL OUR COLLECTION TOGETHER AND SHOW IT FOR SALE TO THE PUBLIC. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY YEAR THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SELLING OUR TOUR COLLECTION, WE JUST SOLD OUR TOUR BUS AND HAVE MADE SOME CORRECTIONS IN OUR DIRECTIONS!!
SO PLEASE COME AND PERUSE AND LOOK OVER ALL OF OUR SUPERB ITEMS....

WE ALSO HAVE OVER 100 VINTAGE MOTORCYCLE JACKETS, MOTORCYCLE BOOTS, VINTAGE
WESTERN WEAR FOR BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, FINE STETSON HATS FROM THE 30'S TO THE 70'S, DOUBLE D RANCHWEAR, H BAR C FINE VINTAGE WESTERN SHIRTS, FORMAL AND SASS WESTERN WEAR AND UNIQUE ITEMS THAT ARE TRULY FUN AND AFFORDABLE.

REGRETTABLY, WE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE OUR CLIENTS AND INTERESTED PEOPLE WITH FREE TICKETS TO THE GUITAR SHOW...SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE----

HOWEVER, PLEASE CALL US AT 214-769-4234 OR 214-821-7755 FOR INFORMATION PERTAINING TO OUR BOOTH OR BETTER YET - LOOK UP THE DALLAS GUITAR SHOW.COM
AT MARKET HALL THIS WEEK-END FOR THE REAL SCOOP -
MERCI FOR YOUR INTEREST IN OUR BOOTS - WE HAVE QUIT SELLING ON EBAY FOR
THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE........
SIMPLY NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR POLICIES.......
RATHER MEET YOU IN PERSON -
WE WILL BE PHOTOGRAPHING MOST OF OUR COLLECTION AND THOSE WILL BE POSTED ON THIS SIGHT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION AND HELP WE HAVE FOUND WITH ALL OF
THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE ON THIS SITE-
WE LOVE YOU MOLLY GIBBONS - (YOU HAVE A FREE TICKET TO THE GUITAR SHOW FROM ME! - COME SHOW WITH ME!!)
BE SAFE, BE WELL AND COME SEE US OR LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES -

ONLY OUR VERY WESTERN BEST,
DONNELL WELLS
AND
FRED DUNLAP
DALLAS, TEXAS
214-769-4234 (SHOW AND CELL #)
214-821-7755 ( LEAVE A MESSAGE #)
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4934
04-17-2008 01:20 AM ET (US)

SEA TURTLE BOOTS
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4935
04-17-2008 01:22 AM ET (US)

NOCONA SWEET CHOCOLATE 12 D
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4936
04-17-2008 01:23 AM ET (US)

ACME STARBURST
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4937
04-17-2008 01:24 AM ET (US)

BULLHIDE CUSTOM
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4938
04-17-2008 01:26 AM ET (US)

MEDALLION ON SHAFT OF 21 INCH BUCKAROO
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4939
04-17-2008 01:52 AM ET (US)

HARLEY EAGLE BOOTS
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4940
04-17-2008 01:53 AM ET (US)

PATENT AND LEATHER VINTAGE BURGUNDY BOOTS
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4941
04-17-2008 01:55 AM ET (US)

CUSTOM MONOGRAMMED BULLHIDE 50'S
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4942
04-17-2008 01:56 AM ET (US)

TINY BLACK AND GREEN TALL INLAYS
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4943
04-17-2008 01:59 AM ET (US)

KIDS OUTFIT
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4944
04-17-2008 02:01 AM ET (US)

KIDS BOOTS W/ SPURS
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4945
04-17-2008 02:02 AM ET (US)

FROGSKIN CUSTOM WITH ZIPPERS AND PULLS-11.5 D
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4946
04-17-2008 02:04 AM ET (US)

PINK XX TOED LADIES 50'S
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4947
04-17-2008 02:07 AM ET (US)
THANKS FOR LOOKING - THERE ARE 200 MORE PAIRS FOR SALE!
MERCI,
DONNELL WELLS
THE OLD SCHOOLHOUSE
DALLAS, TEXAS
214-821-7755
OR CHECK OUT THE

DALLAS GUITAR FESTIVAL IN APRIL 2008
WE HAVE A HUGE BOOTH THERE AND ARE SELLING OUR BOOT COLLECTION
AND MOTORCYCLE JACKET COLLECTION
OVER 1000 FINE VINTAGE ITEMS FOR SALE AT THE VERY BEST PRICES
AT THE VERY BEST EVENT!

COME SEE US OR WRITE ME..........
BE SAFE AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST............
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4948
04-17-2008 12:15 PM ET (US)

I am not sure if the boots on #4945 are frogskin, they look like ostrich, #4941 looks like calf, #4937 look like kangaroo or calf, and #4934 looks like gator, not sea turtle.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  4949
04-17-2008 12:27 PM ET (US)
CBBN,
I would have to agree with that altough I am not sure of the Sea Turtle boots, as the pic is not conclusive. But they do look like Gator...TR
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4950
04-17-2008 01:50 PM ET (US)

HORNBACK LIZARD
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4951
04-17-2008 01:52 PM ET (US)

PUMPKIN ELEPHANT - GREAT LEATHERWORK!
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  4952
05-06-2008 09:52 PM ET (US)
This board is costing me a fortune. Every time we go a long time without any new boots going up........I wind up getting a pair made. I have two pair underway at the moment.......and they should be up in a couple of weeks. I think Brian Thomas should show us something new and nice on here.
Scooter
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4953
05-06-2008 10:12 PM ET (US)
Scooter,

I blame Brian too! <grin>

CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4954
05-06-2008 10:21 PM ET (US)

All Boot Connoisseurs,

Our good boot pal Jennifer June, is putting out some good information on boot makers and boot buying. It is available as an “eBook.” To quote Jenn

“I've compiled an eDirectory of Cowboy Bootmakers ...a digital download on sale for $29.

My directory includes the 50+ talented bootmakers listed and
photographed in my book, Cowboy Boots: The Art & Sole.

This directory includes the contact information for each shop
as well as...each bootmaker's starting price, delivery time,
years of bootmaking experience, and whether or not the bootmaker
must personally measure a customer's feet.

Don't waste your time making dead-end phone calls!
This directory makes it easy to find a great bootmaker who is right for you.

Get your copy at... http://www.dimlights.com/products.

AND...if you buy a copy of the directory within the next 36 hours*,
you will receive a discount code for a free copy of my ebook,
The Missing Index... AND a $25 off the price of a private boot consultation. Yep. That's an additional $29 total value, if you act fast.”

Jenn has been a great source for us bootnuts, and bootmakers. Her web site has been a great resource for me.

CBBN
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4955
05-06-2008 11:31 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-06-2008 11:34 PM

d.pollard custom made gal leg spurs

I have this pair and another pair of suberb silver overlay with swans on them that are epic -

Please advise -
The more advice - the merrier!

Merci,
Donnell Wells
The Old Schoolhouse
Dallas, Texas 75204
214-821-7755
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4956
05-06-2008 11:39 PM ET (US)

SWAN OVERLAY
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4957
05-06-2008 11:42 PM ET (US)
FORGIVE ME -
THE MESSAGE IS THAT I NEED TO SELL BOTH PAIR OF THESE TERRIFIC DANNY POLLARD SPURS -
MUST PAY THE TAXES ON TARA!

THANKS FOR A GREAT SITE AND GREAT MINDS----- BOTH THE GAL LEG AND THE SWAN SET ARE SIGNED AND NUMBERED
THE YEARS ARE 1998 & 1999 -
PLEASE OPINE!

DONNELL WELLS
THE OLD SCHOOLHOUSE
DALLAS, TEXAS
214-821-7755
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  4958
05-07-2008 01:37 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 05-09-2008 12:46 PM
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4959
05-10-2008 08:16 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-10-2008 08:18 PM

THE BOYS AND THE GIRLS OUT TO RIDE
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4960
05-10-2008 08:22 PM ET (US)

ANYONE FOR A SWIM?
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4961
05-10-2008 08:23 PM ET (US)

SERIOUSLY FINE SET
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4962
05-11-2008 06:41 PM ET (US)
Happy Mother's Day to all the mom's out there

I.O.U.
(Dean / Markes)
Jimmy Dean - 1976

Many people look through their wallet or their pocket books and, way down at the bottom, past the credit cards and baby pictures and so on, you usually find a little 'ol piece of dog-eared poetry.

I was cleaning out my wallet the other day and ran across a whole bunch of I.O.U's, some of 'em thirty-five years overdue. And you know the funny thing, all these I.O.U's are owed to one person and I kinda felt like that maybe now would be a pretty good time for an accountin'.

Mom, I sure hope you're listenin'.

Sweet lady, I.O.U. for so many things.....
A lot of services, like nightwatchman for instance..... Lyin' awake nights, listenin' for coughs and cries and creakin'
floorboards.....hah-hah, and me comin' in too late. Boy, you had the eye of an eagle and the roar of a lion, But you always had a heart as big as a house.

I.O.U. for services like, uh, short order cook, chef, baker.....
For makin' sirloin out o' hamburger an' turkey out o' tuna fish,
And big ol' strappin' boys out of leftovers.

I.O.U. for cleanin' services,
The daily scrubbing of face and ears....all work done by hand.
And for the frequent dustin' of a small boy's pants To try to make sure that you led a spotless life. And for washin' and ironin' that no laundry could ever do. For dryin' the tears of childhood and ironin' out the problems of growin' up.

I.O.U. for services as a bodyguard,
For protectin' me from the terrors of thunderstorms and nightmares
Hah, And too many green apples.

And Lord knows, I.O.U. for medical attention,
For nursing me through measles, mumps, bruises, Bumps, splinters and spring fever.
Oh-oh, let's not forget medical advice....important things like,
'If you keep on scratching that, it'll never get well' or 'If you cross your eyes, they're gonna stick like that'.
And probably the most important advice of all, 'Boy, you be sure you got on clean underwear, in case you're in an accident'.

And I.O.U. for veterinarian services,
For feeding every lost dog that I dragged home at the end of the rope,
And for healing the pains of puppy love.

And I.O.U. for entertainment.....
Entertainment that kept the household goin' through some pretty rough times.....
And for wonderful productions at Christmas, the Fourth of July, Birthdays.....
And for making make-believe come true.....
And you did it all on such a limited budget.

I.O.U. for construction work, for building kites and confidence, hopes and dreams an'..... Somehow you made them all touch the sky.....
And for cementin' together a family
So it would stand the worst kind of shocks and blows.....
And for layin' down a good strong foundation to build a life on.

I.O.U. for carrier charges.....
For carryin' me on your books for the necessities of life That a growin' boy somehow, well, they just gotta have. Things like, hah-hah, a pair of high top boots, With a little pocket on the side for a jack-knife.

And one thing, Mom, I'll never forget....
When there were two pieces of pie and three hungry people..... You were always the one who decided, well, I'm not really that hungry anyhow.

These are just a few of the things for which payment is long overdue..
The person that I owe 'em to worked very, very cheap....
She managed by simply doin' without a whole lot o' things that she needed herself....

My I.O.U's add up to more than I could ever hope to repay,
But you know the nicest thing about it all....
That I know, that she had marked the entire bill 'Paid In Full'
For just one kiss and four little words....Mom, I Love You!
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4963
05-12-2008 07:26 AM ET (US)

Evan Voyles, Ralph Brinkley, Mark Fletcher aka Cowboybootnut
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4964
05-12-2008 07:29 AM ET (US)

Evan Voyles Boots, made by Kimmel
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4965
05-12-2008 07:33 AM ET (US)

Evan's boots, side view
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4966
05-12-2008 07:37 AM ET (US)

Custom boots made by Brian Thomas
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4967
05-12-2008 07:51 AM ET (US)
This past weekend I attended the Western Heritage Classic in Abilene, Texas. If you enjoy quality western gear, you'll want to attend this event.

Besides El Paso, Abilene has the most custom boot makers (Tex Robin, Brian Thomas, James Leddy and Alan Bell) in one town, and I had a great time visiting them all.

I'll post a few pictures over the next few days and share with you some of the things I saw at the WHC.

I've attended the trade show at the National Finals in Vegas and I would say I enjoyed this one at the WHC much more as everything is truely "western". No guy selling the Ginzu knives or blue blocker sunglasses.

And besides the trade show there is the ranch rodeo, chuckwagon cooking, ranch horse sale, cowboy music/poetry, horse clinics and horse races. And some of the nicest people you'll ever want to meet.

Really worth attending!

More pictures to follow in the next few days.......
donnell wellsPerson was signed in when posted  4968
05-12-2008 03:56 PM ET (US)
HEY MARK -
GREAT PHOTO OF THE BOYS -
I LOVE EVAN - HE COMES BY TO SEE US AT THE GUITAR SHOW EVERY YEAR.
GLAD YOU HAD A GOOD TIME -
WILL MARK IT ON THE CALENDER FOR NEXT YEAR -
I THINK MOLLY WAS OUT THERE - WILL SEE HER LATER IN THE WEEK AND
WILL HEAR ALL THE FUN STUFF I MISSED.

STILL NEED TO SELL THESE SPURS!

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE ON ABILENE.

BE SAFE,
DONNELL
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  4969
05-12-2008 08:08 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 05-10-2009 10:02 PM
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4970
05-13-2008 07:00 AM ET (US)

Vintage Boots sold at Western Heritage by "Gypsy Cowgirl" from Dallas
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4971
05-14-2008 09:14 PM ET (US)

Kimmel boots made for Evan Voyles
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4972
05-15-2008 07:25 AM ET (US)

Boots in Tex Robin's shop
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4973
05-15-2008 07:31 AM ET (US)
Had a chance to get over to Tex Robin's boot shop (and recording studio....note the guitar!) during the Western Heritage. Had a great visit with Tex and his wife and had a great conversation about cowboy boots and life in general. Below are a few the boots in his shop.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4974
05-15-2008 07:34 AM ET (US)

Pair on the left are Tex Robin boots
 Person was signed in when posted  4975
05-16-2008 05:17 AM ET (US)
Deleted by topic administrator 05-16-2008 09:06 AM
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4976
05-16-2008 11:40 AM ET (US)

The 5-D Hats and Leather booth at Western Heritage
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4977
05-19-2008 10:29 PM ET (US)

Boots by Al Reynolds, Wickenburg AZ
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4978
05-19-2008 10:30 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds boots, Wickenburg AZ
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4979
05-19-2008 10:32 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds is a bootmaker located in Wickenburg AZ. He sent me a few photos that he made to post.

Old West Leather
Alfred R. Reynolds, Owner
(by appointment only)
PO Box 21166
Wickenburg, AZ 85358
(928) 684 3134
E-Mail: bootguy1@cox.net
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4980
05-19-2008 10:38 PM ET (US)
Marshall, Tex, Brian,

I had a great time visiting with you all during the Abilene Western Heritage Classic. Great memories, friends, and of course food.

Tex, I enjoyed those boots you posted.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4981
05-19-2008 10:43 PM ET (US)

Love that pattern! Tex Robin boots, collection of CBBN, 2004
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  4982
05-19-2008 11:23 PM ET (US)
Mark,
Always glad to have y'all drop in. We can always find a good place to eat in Abilene too..

Hey, that Al is a lot wilder than I though he was. Those are both some boots...TR
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  4983
05-20-2008 01:13 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 05-10-2009 10:01 PM
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4984
05-20-2008 02:19 PM ET (US)

Bootmaker Al Reynolds, Wichita Falls Roundup 2007
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4985
05-20-2008 02:21 PM ET (US)

Close up of Al's boots
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  4986
05-20-2008 09:57 PM ET (US)
And if you look close you see that Al inlayed the bootmakers "Tools of the trade" on those boot tops.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4987
05-20-2008 10:35 PM ET (US)
Yep,

Al's boots have some neat ideas and artwork.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4988
05-20-2008 10:37 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds boots
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4989
05-20-2008 10:38 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds boots, Wickenburg AZ
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4990
05-20-2008 10:39 PM ET (US)

Boots by Al Reynolds, Wickenburg AZ
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  4991
05-21-2008 10:56 AM ET (US)
What are the inlays on picture 4989? Really nice boots--all of them.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4992
05-21-2008 11:12 AM ET (US)

I believe it is a bird. I have some other pictures at home, I will look at them tonight.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4993
05-22-2008 11:14 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds boots, Wickenburg AZ - Bird inlay
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4994
05-24-2008 11:06 PM ET (US)

Vintage Capital Saddlery (?) collection of Evan Voyles
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  4995
05-25-2008 12:00 AM ET (US)
CBBN,
Evan asked me about those boots when he was here during the Western Heritage. He thought maybe my father had made them when he was at Capitol with Charlie but I am sure he didn't. My father did the last building and bottoming while he was there. I told him the best bet was Charlie Dunn had made them with the cross over initials on them..It is not Charlies usual letters but who knows..I have only seen three people do them like that, Charlie Dunn, Lee Miller and myself. I got the trick from Lee and my father never tried doing them that way. But maybe somebody will see them and recognise the work to be positive. Charlie or somebody working there with him is my wild guess...TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4996
05-26-2008 01:01 AM ET (US)

Many thanks to all the men and women of our military who served and sacrificed. You have made this the greatest nation in the world.

God bless you and your families.

CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4997
05-26-2008 10:05 AM ET (US)

Memorial Day is the day we stop, remember and give thanks.
 Person was signed in when posted  4998
05-27-2008 03:56 AM ET (US)
Deleted by topic administrator 05-27-2008 07:50 AM
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  4999
05-27-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)

Al Reynolds Airborne boots, 1995
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5000
05-27-2008 09:06 PM ET (US)
The 101st Airborne Division NEVER does ANYTHING half-way.
Those are great boots in honor of a great unit.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5001
05-28-2008 10:43 AM ET (US)

When we had breakfast with Al and his wife at Wichita Falls last year, Mrs. Reynolds brought Al's boot photo album for us (Tex & Mrs. Robin, Marshall, Jess, Ralph Brinkley, and of coarse Brian who never misses a meal). I was amazed at the finely stiched and well-crafted inlay work that Al did. I am glad that he has sent me some CDs of his work to post, and more than happy to do so.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5002
05-28-2008 10:02 PM ET (US)
Wow, look at that unit emblem and the detail on those jump wings on the heel counter!
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5003
05-30-2008 10:11 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 05-10-2009 10:01 PM
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5004
06-02-2008 09:05 AM ET (US)

Justin Centennial Boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5005
06-08-2008 07:30 PM ET (US)

Unknown maker -perhaps Trijillo, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5006
06-08-2008 08:21 PM ET (US)

Unknown maker, heart boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5007
06-08-2008 08:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-08-2008 11:59 PM
The boots below with the heart inlay are extremely small, I have never seen a pair of custom made/hand made/shop made/bench made boots that small. I tried to put a boot tree in them, not even a small ladies boot tree would fit. They seem to be nicely made for the size.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5008
06-12-2008 09:50 PM ET (US)

Willie Lusk Boots (?), collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5009
06-13-2008 09:39 AM ET (US)


Willie Lusk was one of the few black bootmakers in the business. He was pretty remarkable, he was one of the first blacks that had a pilot's license, plus from the 1940's on he ran a shop or owned a shop with white employees. Extremely rare for those days. He was a very talented bootmaker too. I love the two different stitch patterns in Willie Lusk boots that I have. Most of the top-stitching was done by Evelyn Green. Willie learned bootmaking in San Angelo, then moved to Lubbock. The Las Vegas gambler Benny Binion, financially helped Willie set up his first shop in Lubbock. Willie passed away in the mid-1970s.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5010
06-19-2008 10:31 AM ET (US)
I got an email from Mickie Ross, who is the Educational Program Coordinator at The Williamson Museum in Georgetown, TX. She asked me to post some info on a great event. Looks like fun, I may put it on my calendar! Here is an excerpt from her email.

"The date is September 26 & 27, here in Georgetown, Texas, just north of Austin. The chuckwagon event starts Friday night with live music by Grady Lee from Marshall. The all day event on Saturday starts at 9:00, and I am looking for demonstrators of any western work - boots, hats, saddles - whatever I can find. We don't charge to come, and I can offer a gas allowance to all demonstrators. There are events all day ending with a show with trick riders and ropers, then the longhorns being driven along the San Gabriel River. Please post whatever you can, with me as the contact person - mross@wilco.org. I appreciate your help!"

"Join us for Up the Chisholm Trail Cattle Drive and Chuckwagon Cook-off, September 26 & 27, in Georgetown. Visit www.upthechisholmtrail.org for details."
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5011
06-20-2008 08:51 PM ET (US)

Unknown Maker (Leddy??), collection CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5012
06-20-2008 08:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-20-2008 08:52 PM
Don't know who made these but they maybe the work of a Leddy or someone in San Angelo. Any ideas?
wbezPerson was signed in when posted  5013
06-23-2008 11:23 AM ET (US)
I just found a pair of boots marked ROBERT BURTON BOOTMAKER ROSWELL, NEW MEX. Can anyone tell me about them?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5014
06-23-2008 12:04 PM ET (US)

I have only heard of him, I believe he is still making boots and saddles. Can you post a picture.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5015
06-23-2008 12:07 PM ET (US)

I did some googling, apparantly Mr. Burton passed away. You may want to contact a former student of his, David Brunson, for information.

Brunson Boot
113 South Third Street
Artesia, New Mexico 88210
Phone: (505) 748-3201
Fax: (505) 746-2727
http://www.brunsonboot.com/index.html
E-mail: dbrunson@brunsonboot.com
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5016
06-30-2008 02:48 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-30-2008 10:36 PM

Boots by Al Reynolds, Al did the tooling.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5017
06-30-2008 10:51 PM ET (US)

Paul Bond calfskin boots, collection of J Walker.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5018
06-30-2008 10:53 PM ET (US)

Rocketbuster boots, collection of J. Walker.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5019
07-01-2008 10:47 PM ET (US)

Ammons boots, collection of J. Walker.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5020
07-01-2008 10:50 PM ET (US)

 Inlayed Rocketbuster boots, collection of J. Walker.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5021
07-04-2008 11:57 AM ET (US)

Have a good 4th of July, many thanks to the Founding Fathers.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5022
07-07-2008 11:48 AM ET (US)

Boots by Al Reynolds, Wickenburg, AZ
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5023
07-10-2008 09:45 PM ET (US)

Ammons Calf, steer/stars inlay, collection J. Walker
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5024
07-10-2008 09:47 PM ET (US)

Ammons ostrich, collection of J. Walker
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5025
07-10-2008 10:59 PM ET (US)

Herman Smith boots (in side labeled), collection of Mark Fletcher
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5026
07-11-2008 08:27 AM ET (US)
According to Tex, Herman Smith was a leather salesman from Lubbock and then later Amarillo. He last owned Panhandle Leather. His father in law was Carl Hagedorn from Hagedorn Leather. He wasn't a bootmaker, so these were probably made by someone in the Lubbock-Amarillo area.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5027
07-12-2008 12:58 AM ET (US)
CBBN,
Did these have a label saying Herman Smith or just his name written in them? I don't know if I ever met Pewee Barnwell but I bottomed some of his tops for Herman Smith too with the same pattern...My father worked for Barnwell in the early 50s for a short time in amarillo...TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5028
07-12-2008 08:10 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-12-2008 10:29 AM
Tex,

There is a hand written name "Herman Smith" in them, about 1/2 way down the tops. Then there is a small print, faint inked label with his name that looks like it was put in after it was made.

Terry Young emailed me that these boots were made by Pee Wee, because of the vamp tongue pattern. Terry done some bottom work on his boots too.

I have another pair with the same stitch pattern, similar vamp tongue, and boot pulls, that you said several years ago they were made by Barnwell, or at leased stitched by him.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5029
07-12-2008 08:17 AM ET (US)

Barnwell Boots, collection of Mark Fletcher
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5030
07-21-2008 03:23 PM ET (US)
All,
These boots are on ebay for sale:

They were made in 2000 in Coleman, Tx by me...Tex Robin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...T&item=330254779380
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5031
07-26-2008 08:32 AM ET (US)

Happy National Day of the Cowboy!

Giddy-Up
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5032
07-27-2008 03:12 AM ET (US)

Thunderbirds to drive my Thunderbird.
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5033
07-27-2008 03:17 AM ET (US)
Every Thunderbird has a Turquoise insignia, so here you go. Picture of car and design of boots are over on my friend's site, Boots Reitzel.

http://geocities.com/tucsonboot/

Initial design by Spider Daley/further application by Mingo, construction by Mingo.

Wild ideas by yours truly.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5034
07-27-2008 04:23 AM ET (US)
Scooter

Beautiful, my compliments to all involved.

CBBN
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5035
07-27-2008 03:22 PM ET (US)
Thanks.
To clarify.
The vamp and counter designs were by Spider.
Stitching, initials, and collar were by Mingo.
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5036
07-31-2008 01:26 PM ET (US)
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cabPerson was signed in when posted  5037
07-31-2008 03:06 PM ET (US)
Gosh, it appears that the Brian Thomas signature stitch on the side of the boot looks amazingly like an Alan Bell boot, but turned vertically. Has anyone noticed this? I'll try to find a pic of a bell boot for reference.
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5038
07-31-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)
Brian,

The leather has a bit more green to it than the picture shows. I believe it was calf, but thick. I bought it from Spider down at Bond's while he was still there. I already had another piece, actually better suited in weight, but too much green to suit me when compared to this piece. Turquoise, to my eye, either leans towards green or leans towards blue. The blue shade pleases me more.

Scooter
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5039
07-31-2008 07:31 PM ET (US)

My new ML Leddys
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5040
07-31-2008 08:41 PM ET (US)
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Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5041
07-31-2008 08:48 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5042
07-31-2008 09:24 PM ET (US)

Alan Bell boots, former collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5043
07-31-2008 09:29 PM ET (US)
Mark from Plano,

I like your Leddy's. Good color.
Jess MonroePerson was signed in when posted  5044
08-07-2008 02:09 PM ET (US)
Here is a subject I have not seen discussed before on boot forums.

I am interested in hearing people's thoughs about XG(Triad) constructed cowboy boots.

The XG(Triad) style has a one-piece vamp construction and counter foxing that does not reach all the way to the sideseam. It may also have outside-turned sideseams that are covered with a leather "side rail".

I have seen this design used mostly with exotic hides.

I like the look of this design, even for calf and kangaroo boots.

Are there any specific advantages and disadvantages to this style of boot construction, compared to a standard cowboy boot?

Do any bootmakers or collectors have any feelings about this design good or bad?

Do any of the readers of this forum have any XG(Triad) boots? Does the fit feel any different then your other boots of a similar maker on a similar last? How do you like these boots overall?

Maybe if CBBN or another collector or bootmaker has a pair of these boots, you could post a photo so everyone reading this forum can see the type of boot I am describing.

Jess
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5045
08-07-2008 02:17 PM ET (US)
Jess,

I never heard of XG, I have heard of the triad. From what I have seen, it is usually done with exotic skins for the vamp. My thinking is that it was a style started when when a company/shop had a small piece of the skin to use (just a thought). Personally, I don't care for it for a man's boot. I think it would be okay for a woman's boot (I am not trying to be a sexist on this). It is just a dressy-style boot.

I have a pair in my collection at home (not part of my wearing collection), I will post it tonight. It was made at Norris Boot Shop in Midland, TX. The vamp is shark.
Jess MonroePerson was signed in when posted  5046
08-07-2008 02:53 PM ET (US)
CBBN,

XG(Triad) is the name of this design illustrated in the Ammons catalog. I am curious to know where the XG designation came from, and the general history of this design.

J. Gilbert Footwear in Seattle (and Tucson) is doing a number of these boots as special Lucchese make-up designs for their stores.

I like the design beause it is somewhat unusual, and I have always been drawn toward things that are unique and unusual. I just think this design is interesting, and merits some discussion.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5047
08-07-2008 03:26 PM ET (US)
Jess,

Pink butterflys inlays on boot tops and a blue Resistol hat are unusual too. <grin>

I believe the XG that Rodney Ammons uses may have come from TO Stanley. Rodney worked for TO in the 1980s. I believe TO calls it "Vegas," but I believe the code may be XG. I now recall seeing it somewhere. I think it is a lettering code, similar for toes and heel styles. I don't know if TO started the triad though.
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5048
08-07-2008 03:32 PM ET (US)
I have a couple pairs of triads, one by T.O. Stanley in tobacco anteater and navy blue leather that is really spiffy. Mahan made a lot of these, too. I quite like them as a change of pace. And for something like snake, where a single skin is too narrow to cover the vamp, I think they look better than a pieced vamp.
Jess MonroePerson was signed in when posted  5049
08-07-2008 04:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-07-2008 04:13 PM
I just checked my T.O. Stanley catalog. This design is called the "Vegas".

Now I am really curious about the origin of this design, as I have never read about this design in any of the cowboy boot books, or in all the years we have been doing these internet forums.

Anyone know?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5050
08-07-2008 04:23 PM ET (US)
Jess,

Give him a call, 915-588-5419.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5051
08-07-2008 04:48 PM ET (US)

Larry Mahan elephant triad boot
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5052
08-07-2008 04:51 PM ET (US)
Well I WAS going to bring my Triad boots with the pick butterfly inlays to the Bootmakers roundup........but not anymore!.....grin
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5053
08-10-2008 02:58 PM ET (US)
Mark from Plano,

The original owner of those Larry Mahan triads probably bought a matching pair for his wife, along with matching western shirts, jeans and belt/buckles to go line dancing with.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5054
08-10-2008 02:58 PM ET (US)

Charlie Dunn triads, from collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5055
08-10-2008 02:59 PM ET (US)

Norris Boot Shop, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5056
08-10-2008 07:24 PM ET (US)

Shorty Hall Boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5057
08-10-2008 07:30 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-21-2008 03:20 PM
You learn something new everyday. I always thought these boots were made by James Owens in Claredon TX. Terry Young, a bootmaker in Paducah TX was familiar with Shorty's and James Owens work and said that one easy way to tell a Shorty Hall boot from a James Owens boot is the stitch on the counter cover. Shorty had half of a chain stitch. James made a full chain with a diamond in the middle. Shortys was just to a downward point,

Thanks Terry!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5058
08-10-2008 07:41 PM ET (US)

James Owens Boots, collection of CBBN, thanks Vintage Cowboy!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5059
08-10-2008 07:42 PM ET (US)

Dixon Boots (?), collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5060
08-10-2008 07:44 PM ET (US)

I have several boots in my collection made by Dixon Boots of Wichita Falls TX. Some of them have this same stitch pattern, but have a label. I could not see a label in these below.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5061
08-11-2008 10:02 PM ET (US)

In post 5057 I made a mistake in Terry's name, and corrected it. I had put down Hall, it is Terry Young, a bootmaker in Paducah, TX. Sorry Terry.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5062
08-17-2008 12:43 AM ET (US)

Harold Norris calfskin boots,
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5063
08-17-2008 12:44 AM ET (US)

Harold Norris lizard boots
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5064
08-17-2008 12:44 AM ET (US)

Harold Norris inlayed boots
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5065
08-17-2008 12:45 AM ET (US)

Harold Norris ostrich skin boots
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5066
08-17-2008 12:49 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-17-2008 01:44 AM
I was in Midland TX last week and stopped at the Norris Boot & Shoe Shop. The owner of the shop is Mike Norris, and his dad was Harold Norris who made boots in Midland for many years in his shop at South Main. Harold Norris died in 1993. Mike doesn't make boots, just does repair, but he had these four boots in his shop and let me take pictures of them.

It is hard to believe that 40-50 years ago there were several bootmakers in Midland, and now there are none.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5067
08-20-2008 02:47 PM ET (US)

Brian Thomas Boots, Horween Waxed Rough-Out, collection of CBBN
T. CowanPerson was signed in when posted  5068
08-21-2008 01:21 AM ET (US)
There are three pairs of boots on ebay that really resemble those James Owens below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-HAND-MADE-Dark-...goryZ63850QQssPageN meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5069
08-21-2008 09:17 AM ET (US)

Chris Bennett Boots
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5070
08-21-2008 09:22 AM ET (US)
I recently acquired the pair of Chris Bennett boots pictured below. I don't know much about the bootmaker except that his shop is in Nogales, AZ. They have the look of a pair of Paul Bond boots which is also located in Nogales. I did a web search and didn't find much info. and he has no web site. Does anyone have any info on this bootmaker and his boots? Thanks!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5071
08-21-2008 09:37 AM ET (US)
turpin,

If I recall correctly, I read somewhere that he did work at Paul Bonds, and left in the mid-1990s(?) to open his own shop. He did have a good reputation 10 years ago about his boots (from what I read), but I haven't heard anything about his work for several years. I have seen several pictures of his boots and they do look nice.

If you could, post another picture of your boots, its hard for me to take a good look at them at this angle.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5072
08-21-2008 03:19 PM ET (US)
T. Cowan,

I am prety sure that those were made by James Owens too. He was a well-respected and popular bootmaker in the Clarendon TX area, who passed away several years ago. Fortunately his son Jim, has continued the tradition of making fine boots.
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5073
08-25-2008 08:51 PM ET (US)
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Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5074
08-28-2008 06:52 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-28-2008 09:50 PM
There is a nice 3-page article on Paul Bond in the Fall 2008 issue of Range Magazine.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5075
09-06-2008 08:08 AM ET (US)

Leddy Boots
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5076
09-06-2008 08:11 AM ET (US)
I bought the below Leddy Boots at the Rose Bowl Flea Market a few years back for $85. I finally got around to asking Leddy's about them and here's what they told me via e-mail:

Those boots were made for a man named Lewis Paxton of Wynnewood, Oklahoma. The were made in the year 1955, here in Fort Worth, and they cost $44.50 at that time. Today, these boots would be marked anywhere between $1,500.00 and $1,600.00. The boots are made of calf skin and the color is co-co. The tooled top is our Leddy Floral pattern
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5077
09-06-2008 05:02 PM ET (US)
Mark from Plano,

A pair of old Leddys, in good shape and that fit the spouse is a great deal at that price.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5078
09-13-2008 10:52 PM ET (US)

Note, they mention Cosimo and Sam Lucchese in the same release with "brass nailed outsole, cushioned channel leather insole." I see humor in that.

CBBN
-------------------------------------------------------------- -----

EL PASO, TX, September 2008 – Lucchese Boot Company is proud to launch Lucchese Cowboy and Lucchese Cowgirl Collection.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Lucchese is painting a new and authentic picture of what "Cowboy" and "Cowgirl" should be. With inspiration coming from early designs of Cosimo and Sam Lucchese in San Antonio, the Cowboy Collection combines comfort and functionality while staying true to the cowboy way of life.
The Lucchese Cowboy Collection is a revolutionary new cowboy boot. With fit, comfort and style, the Lucchese Cowboy Collection is Handmade and features premium leathers, a cushioned channel leather insole, stacked leather heels, performance heel counters, 3/4 welt, brass nailed outsole combined together for a Classic fit.


For more information please visit http://www.lucchese.com/collections.php?cat_id=58
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5079
09-22-2008 07:17 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5080
09-23-2008 10:58 AM ET (US)
Brian,

Unfortunately Webster did not get around to "Handmade Boots" or "Custom made Boots." And unfortunately no group or person has set a “standard” to define the two terms. Where is the line drawn and more important, who draws the line? When does a shop become a factory? All of these terms right now, are just personal definitions. If and when an acceptable group within the trade can standardize the terms, there will always be this “custom vs. handmade” use going back and forth.

CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5081
09-23-2008 11:18 AM ET (US)
Brian,

I have always believed that Cosimo was more of a perfectionist than Sam. If Cosimo was alive today, he would be putting the "FD" stamp on a lot of the boots being made.
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5082
09-25-2008 09:03 AM ET (US)
I saw a pair of boots on eBay that were advertised as "Ray Jones boots." Now I'm not an expert on the late Mr. Jones and his handiwork, but from what I do know, these ain't them. No toe bug, for example. Could people look at item 120308590278 to see if they agree. This wouldn't be the first time that boots were misdavertised as Jones's boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5083
09-25-2008 09:33 AM ET (US)
Jerry C,

A toe flower is an "extra" charge for most bootmakers. The customer may not have wanted to pay that or did not want a toe flower.

I am pretty sure those are Ray Jones, or one of the Jass brothers. It is too hard to tell the difference some times.
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5084
09-26-2008 11:51 AM ET (US)
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turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5085
09-26-2008 11:56 AM ET (US)

Can you tell me who made these boots?
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5086
09-26-2008 01:32 PM ET (US)
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turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5087
09-26-2008 03:33 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info. Is Mr. Owens still around and making boots? If not, any idea about when these boots might have been made? By the way, HOW do you determine who you think is the bootmaker without having any label or writing or information written in the boots? These boots have a pretty distinctive design to the "tongue" (is that what it is called?). BUT what do you look for to ID the maker of a boot? Someone told me that the toe bugs are also distinctive of the bootmaker (these have no bug), also that the stitching on the tops and sometimes the heel shape can help ID the maker. Could readers of this forum tell me how they ID the maker just by looking at a boots design? I know it is more of an "art" than a science. It would make an interesting discussion. Thanks!
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5088
09-26-2008 06:07 PM ET (US)
if Cosimo Lucchese was a gunslinger there'd have been a whole lot of dead bootmakers...
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5089
09-26-2008 09:36 PM ET (US)
turpin,

James Owens passed away 10-15 yrs ago, he was a highly respected and liked bootmaker in Claredon TX (from what I heard, I never got the opportunity to meet him). His son Jim is running the shop.

"HOW do you determine who you think is the bootmaker without having any label or writing or information written in the boots?"

For me, I have to go by things like vamp tongue, counter, toe flower, stitching, boot pulls, etc and make a "semi-educated guess." Some bootmakers who are familiar with the maker can just take a "look." and tell.

James had that vamp tongue pattern, plus he had a diamond pattern on the counter stitching (in the rear). From what I seen, he didn't use toe flowers, sometimes he used wrinkles. A lot of the Panhandle-North Texas bootmakers did not use toe flowers.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5090
09-26-2008 09:41 PM ET (US)
ManInTheCrowd,

Good to see you posting!

Cosimo was a perfectionest (from what I've read). I think he would have to call Rambo in some of these factories (I say this in jest).

There are still "real bootmakers" who take pride in their work.
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5091
09-27-2008 12:53 PM ET (US)
Cowboybootnut

I agree! There are some gifted guys and girls busting their knuckles every day and making great cowboy boots! Those bootmakers are our saving grace.
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5092
09-27-2008 02:18 PM ET (US)
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ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5093
09-27-2008 03:58 PM ET (US)
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ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5094
09-27-2008 05:29 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-27-2008 06:15 PM
Brian C. Thomas

I was speaking in the historical sense.

I'm certain that Cosimo Lucchese hired bootmakers. And I know those bootmakers executed his designs under very close supervision. Cosimo collaborated with his bootmakers. Those guys were not factory workers. Especially in today's sense of the word.

Cosimo was known to be a perfectionist. He also had a temper. Truth be told, he probably thought about killing one or two of his bootmakers every day. I attribute that to be the nature of the bootmaking business.

Those were different times. A time when people took pride in what they made. And what they sold. Made in America meant something then.

Not the case today... get my drift?

Hell, I think that if you referred to Cosimo Lucchese's bootmakers as factory workers in his presence, you may well have been a dead bootmaker. If he was a gunslinger.

Man In The Crowd
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5095
09-27-2008 09:03 PM ET (US)

Can anyone tell me the maker of these boots?
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5096
09-27-2008 09:07 PM ET (US)

bigger picture
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5097
09-27-2008 09:12 PM ET (US)
I have another pair of boots that have no information in the tops that I would like to ID who the maker is. They are one of the nicest pairs in my collection. They have alligator bottoms but the tops are really nice. All hand tooled leather with stars, fancy scroll work, initials JW and cowheads. The workmanship is first rate and the leather quality excellent. Can anyone tell me who they think the bootmaker is?
THANKS!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5098
09-27-2008 09:27 PM ET (US)
ManInTheCrowd,

I agree with you, Cosimo had some of the best craftsmen around. Some of them went on to establish their own shops like Hernandez, Galvan, Garcia. It wasn't until they moved to El Paso, or when it was bought by Bluebell (in my opinion) that it went more to a higher production - more of a factory style type boot. That may have been a reason why Sam left.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5099
09-27-2008 09:30 PM ET (US)
turpin

Are there any marks on the inside?

It is hard to tell, can you shoot a couple pictures (close up) of the sides and rear, and inside?
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5100
09-27-2008 10:10 PM ET (US)
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turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5101
09-27-2008 11:15 PM ET (US)

another picture 1
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5102
09-27-2008 11:15 PM ET (US)

2
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5103
09-27-2008 11:16 PM ET (US)

3
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5104
09-27-2008 11:17 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-28-2008 11:46 AM
CBBN Hope these closeups will help in the ID.
THANKS!
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5105
09-28-2008 05:01 AM ET (US)
Hello everybody... hope you all are doing good...

Turpin, CBBN, at first sight they remind me Eddie Kimmel...
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5106
09-28-2008 06:33 PM ET (US)
Peter B,

I haven't held a lot of Kimmel boots in person, but I did look at the pictures in the recent boot books. There are some similarities in the tooling, but Kimmel usually has his boots labeled, and I don't see any. Turpin, are there any marks inside that I can't see?

For some reason I kept thinking about a boot shop in El Paso or Leon, similar to Stallion or Liberty. But I could be 100% wrong.
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5107
09-28-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)
CBBN & Peter B.

Stallion was the first name that came to this old mind. Seems to be stickin' as well...

MITC
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5108
09-28-2008 09:50 PM ET (US)
Nothing written in the tops at all. No name, label or numbers.
Thanks for posting.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5109
09-28-2008 10:10 PM ET (US)
turpin

Based on that, I doubt if it is a known shop, like Stallion, Tres Outlaws, Liberty. Most of them have some writing or labels the majority of the time.

But I reserve the right to be 100% wrong! <grin>
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5110
10-05-2008 06:40 PM ET (US)

Boots by Tex Robin, collection of CBBN
FaughnderPerson was signed in when posted  5111
10-05-2008 08:55 PM ET (US)
CBBN,

Those look fantastic! Looks like Christmas came early for you.

Will those be for special events?

Kevin
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5112
10-06-2008 07:22 AM ET (US)
Kevin,

Thanks, Nope they are just the normal going to the office boots,
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5113
10-06-2008 08:18 AM ET (US)

Boot and Saddle Makers Round Up Display table
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5114
10-06-2008 08:18 AM ET (US)

Display table at the Round Up
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5115
10-06-2008 08:19 AM ET (US)

Round Up, display table
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5116
10-06-2008 08:24 AM ET (US)

Bootmakers Round Up, display table
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5117
10-06-2008 08:26 AM ET (US)

Display Table, boots by Tex Robin
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5118
10-06-2008 08:27 AM ET (US)

The Winner, the "Man From Arizona" Al Reynolds and his wife.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5119
10-06-2008 08:29 AM ET (US)
Note, boots on post 5113, the pair on the left are clown boots, there happened to be a "Clown Convention" at the same time in a nearby hotel.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5120
10-09-2008 11:28 PM ET (US)

Vintage Olsen Stelzer Oil Derrick Boots (NOT OWNED BY CBBN)
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5121
10-12-2008 08:34 AM ET (US)

Vintage Nocona Boots Nocona Texas Visitor's Center
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5122
10-12-2008 08:35 AM ET (US)

Vintage Nocona Eagle Boots, Nocona TX Visitor's Center
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10-12-2008 08:39 AM ET (US)

Vintage Nocona Eagle Boots
Aye SellPerson was signed in when posted  5124
10-12-2008 09:57 AM ET (US)
Thanks Mark.
It's been awhile since I've seen those boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5125
10-13-2008 11:12 AM ET (US)
FYI,

They are building a museum in Nocona, the North Montague County Historical Society and Museum. I am sure it will have a "Miss Enid" room, with these boots and other Nocona memorabilia.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5126
10-29-2008 05:37 PM ET (US)
Here is an interesting video on Capitol Saddlery in Austin Texas (the old shop, not the new location).

http://www.downtownaustintv.org/#/business/capitol-saddlery/

There are some ads in the beginning.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5127
10-29-2008 05:38 PM ET (US)

There is a lot of stopping and starting when viewing.......
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5128
10-30-2008 08:21 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the link Mark. Good little clip.

I like how they make it look like the gal orders a pair of custom boots, goes out to lunch..... and comes back and they're ready!
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5129
10-30-2008 09:44 AM ET (US)
I didn't get a sense from the Capitol Saddlery video of how "custom" they really are. Does one guy make the boots, or are there several? Do they use leather toe boxes, etc? I'm just curious because I may be going to Austin and may want to look them up. I hear a lot about Leddy, which seems to be a similar operation, but very little about this place. Thanks!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5130
10-30-2008 09:58 AM ET (US)
JerryC,

I would think that they would have to have more than one, but that is just a guess. You probably need to call them about leather toe boxes, etc.

Leather toe boxes are good, but the is nothing wrong with a good celastic toe box. Many bootmakers use them. Just stay away from the plastic pre-formed toe boxes that the factories use.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5131
10-31-2008 02:24 PM ET (US)
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5132
10-31-2008 02:31 PM ET (US)
I tried going to their website, but it's just a facade. I can't get anything to open!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5133
10-31-2008 02:33 PM ET (US)
JerryC,

They used to have a better website when they were at the old shop. But the phone number is on this one so you can give them a call.

Cowboybootnut
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5134
10-31-2008 02:35 PM ET (US)
This email address may work.....


mike@capitolsaddlery.com
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10-31-2008 03:02 PM ET (US)
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10-31-2008 03:05 PM ET (US)
San Angelo Boot Makers Ensure Clients Are Well-Heeled
Published Jun 23, 2008

Sure, you’d expect to find cowboy boots in Texas, but in San Angelo, boot makers are world famous for creating unique footwear that has been seen everywhere from rodeos to the big screen.

For nearly 100 years, the city has been home to three custom boot makers: J.L. Mercer Boot Co., Brest Boots and M.L. Leddy’s. Watch the craftsmen work with the leather, speak with the owners for a bit, and you’ll know why this profession continues to thrive here.

“We do everything like you’re supposed to, and that’s what gets our name out there,” says Robert Brest, who along with his wife, Karen, owns Brest Boots.

The two bought the business, which was founded in 1923, four years ago and have wasted little time elevating its profile. Brest’s most recent accolades include first-place honors at the Best of American Bootmakers competition at the Festival of American Music and Crafts, as well as a repeat win in the Best Shop Effort category.

In addition to boots, the shop also makes R.E. Donaho saddles and carries a line of jewelry and purses created by Karen Brest. Yet, the boots get the most attention, most recently on the feet of several actors in the Academy Award-winning movie, No Country for Old Men.

“We’re a true West Texas boot shop, and we just want to be the best we can be,” Brest says.

Such is the allure of the boot-making trade that it can even make a banker give up her day job. At least that’s the case for former bank CFO Lindsay Cranek, who bought J.L. Mercer & Son in 2007. The shop, which was founded in 1923, just had an appeal she could not deny.

“I kept seeing that it was for sale, and I collect boots, so I just decided it was a good time to have my own business,” Cranek says.

Over the years, Mercer boots have emerged from the pants legs of President Lyndon Johnson, John Wayne, Charlie Daniels and more. And although she’s fairly new to the trade, Cranek has a definite ace in the hole.

“Even though he’s 87 now, Mr. Mercer comes by most days,” Cranek says. “He checks on us, and he can tell how good the boots are just by feel.”

Over at M.L. Leddy’s it’s still all in the family, as Leddy granddaughter, Beverly Franklin Allen, handles sales at the San Angelo store while her brother, Wilson, operates the Fort Worth headquarters and store. M.L. Leddy founded the business in Brady in 1922 and moved the shop to San Angelo in 1936. Five years later, he opened the Fort Worth location, yet all of the custom boot orders are filled here. The San Angelo shop returned to downtown in 2007 from a 20-year stint within a nearby shopping center.

The new downtown location has become a tourist destination in its own right after adding a glass window that looks onto the assembly area.

“We’re still using the same equipment that M.L. used,” Allen says. “We still do it the exact same way as when he started, and we’ve got people who’ve been with us 30, 40 years. People like to come in and watch, and sometimes I take them back there for a closer look. I’m not supposed to, but I just can’t help myself. It really is a dying art, and I really want people to see the quality, the touch that goes into each boot.”
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5137
11-01-2008 12:21 AM ET (US)
San Angelo used to have an old bar-b-que place........beat up building, side room with dirt floor and picnic tables and they'd hand you the ribs and rolled up wax paper with salt and pepper in it. In my mind, it's still going well, other than that, perhaps it's gone.
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11-07-2008 01:57 PM ET (US)
The Wickenburg Sun

http://www.wickenburgsun.com/articles/2008/11/06/news/news22.txt

Local Bootmaker Wins at Show

By Patti Jares, Staff Writer

After 25 years of dedicating himself to the art of creating traditional cowboy boots, Wickenburg resident Alfred Reynolds finally entered a contest and came away the big winner.

The competition was the Cowboy Boot and Saddlemaker Round-Up 2008, held in Wichita Falls, Texas, where the master leather workers of the country gather each year to admire the work of peers, gather ideas, and compete for prizes and recognition. This is a large event, complete with a trade show and seminars.
 
For years Alfred and his wife Dione have attended the show as spectators only, but this year was different.

“Al’s friends told him if he didn’t enter the contest, they’d string him up by his boots,” said Dione. “When he won he was in total awe - he couldn’t even say a word.”

Alfred brought three pairs of boots and entered them in the categories of “Working Cowboy Boots (sturdy built with tough skin),” “Artistry” (judged for imaginative use of carvings, cutouts, inlays, etc.) and “Dress Boot” (simple elegance).

Reynolds took first place for Dress Boot, runner-up for Working Cowboy Boot and the boots he entered for Artistry took runner-up and the coveted Professional’s Choice - the prize given by board members who choose one pair out of the entire contest that they believe is the finest boot at the show.
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11-07-2008 01:58 PM ET (US)

Dione and Alfred Reynolds with winning boots
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11-07-2008 02:00 PM ET (US)
Congratulations Al and Dione, two of the nicest people you get to meet in the business.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5141
11-10-2008 03:50 PM ET (US)

Happy 233rd Birthday to the United States Marine Corps!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5142
11-10-2008 04:20 PM ET (US)
Nice boots, and Happy Birthday to the USMC.
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11-11-2008 09:33 AM ET (US)

Its Veteran's Day, many thanks to all who have served and will serve.
Jess MonroePerson was signed in when posted  5144
11-13-2008 01:40 PM ET (US)

Chocolate and bright blue Sheridan Kangaroo boots by El Vaquero
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11-13-2008 01:44 PM ET (US)
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Canyon and chocolate brown Sheridan kangaroo boots
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11-13-2008 01:46 PM ET (US)

Black Italian kangaroo and cobalt blue Sheridan kangaroo
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11-13-2008 01:51 PM ET (US)

Navy and medium brown Italian Kangaroo
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11-13-2008 01:56 PM ET (US)
These are some of my latest boots made by El Vaquero of Raymondville, Texas.

The stitch pattern I chose for these boots was originally used on boots made by Rios of Raymondville.

Jess
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5149
11-13-2008 11:29 PM ET (US)
Jess,

Nice looking boots. Are there two or three different toe styles? (my monitor is not the best)
Jess MonroePerson was signed in when posted  5150
11-14-2008 02:22 AM ET (US)
CBBN,

The Navy/Medium brown boots have a medium round toe. The other 3 have a 1 1/4" box toe, which El Vaquero calls a "Vaquero Toe".

I felt my boot collection could use a few more two tone boots, as many of my other El Vaquero boots have the same color vamps and tops.

I know you like two tone boots, and you were part of the inspiration for me to order these boots.

Jess
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11-14-2008 07:30 AM ET (US)
Jess,

Thanks, it is good to know that I provide perspiration, I mean inspiration, to other boot wearers.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5152
11-22-2008 11:00 AM ET (US)
All,

I have some new Justin boots for sale, lots of sizes and cheap <grin>


http://www.star-telegram.com/189/story/1051998.html

$3 million worth of Justin boots stolen in Fort Worth

By BILL MILLER
wmiller@star-telegram.com

These boots were made for walkin' -- and roping and dancing...
But about $3 million worth of Justin Boots and merchandise were also for the stealing.

Police say the footwear and related materials were hauled away from a distribution center in northeast Fort Worth by someone in a big white truck.

The thefts happened twice at the Justin Boot distribution center, 3500 E. Long Ave., said Lt. Paul Henderson, police spokesman.

The first heist was during Labor Day weekend, Aug. 31-Sept. 1, but it happened again on Nov. 9, Henderson said.

In both instances, someone cut the locked chain used to secure the gate and then drove the white tractor onto the property, Henderson said.

The suspect is a white man, possibly Hispanic, who is about 5-feet-6-inches tall and weighs about 170 pounds, Henderson said.

A surveillance video shows "a white single-cab tractor entering the property without a trailer and leaving with one, three different times. The tractor has no identifiable markings on it," he said.

Three containers mounted on three chassis were taken, Henderson said. They held 10,740 pairs of boots and 7,404 sets of boot uppers worth an estimated $2,386,414.04, he said.

Two of the containers-chassis sets were found empty and abandoned; one in Forest Hill at Southeast Loop 820 and Forest Hill Drive; the other in Grand Prairie at Interstate 20 and Great Southwest Parkway.

The third was still missing on Friday, Henderson said.

In the Nov. 9 incident, two more shipping containers were taken from the same property.

"A witness observed a white single cab tractor towing a Green China Shipping trailer away from the property," Henderson said. "Access to the property was gained by cutting a chain locked gate."

The 9,952 boots in the containers had an estimated value of $774,747, Henderson said.

Both container-chassis sets, he said, were recovered empty in Arlington: one at I-20 and New York Avenue; and the other at Texas 360 and Pioneer Parkway.

Justin Brands spokesperson Lisa Lankes said that the company is working with police and they don't know where the products may have ended up.

Company officials are concerned there may be a black market for their products, she said.

Lankes warned that if you see a Justin product at a flea market or any similar location to be wary, because the company only deals with businesses that have "fixed brick-and-mortar locations."

Crime Stoppers will pay up to $1,000 for information that leads to an arrest, Henderson said. Call 817-469-TIPS.
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5153
11-23-2008 08:38 AM ET (US)
CBBN, I'll pass, my '40s Justin peewees are all I need, but good luck with 'em! Sell 'em for what they're worth, about $5 a pair, and you'll be rolling in the dough for sure... downside is I reckon it'll take 10 to 20 years to get a pair from Brian or Tex because they'll be damn busy making boots for you. mitc
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5154
11-23-2008 11:05 AM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5155
11-23-2008 11:17 AM ET (US)
MITC,

The Justins are great for target practice.
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11-23-2008 12:13 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5157
11-23-2008 02:22 PM ET (US)
10,740 pairs of Justin boots = $547.98 bongo bucks
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5158
11-30-2008 12:52 PM ET (US)
From the Dallas Morning News, another good boot article from Mike Young.
________________________________________________________________ ______
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...cgm_comments_anchor

Texas Hill Country town's mural is homage to local boot makers

12:30 AM CST on Sunday, November 30, 2008
By MICHAEL E. YOUNG / The Dallas Morning News
myoung@dallasnews.com

LAMPASAS, Texas – These boots were made for talking.

And they are the talk of the town – real boots collected from around the city and reproduced by a team of volunteers as a mural so vivid it required a special exemption from the City Council.

But perhaps most striking of all, each pair of boots seemed to come with a story – about the design or the maker or even where the boots had traveled.

The Texas-size painting, unveiled this month and plastered on a wall a block or so off the square, serves as a testimony to generations of boot makers from this Hill Country town, particularly the legendary Ray Jones.

The late Mr. Jones served local ranch hands with no-nonsense, rawhide-tough footwear for decades.

Tyler Beard, the late Dallas-born writer whose coffee-table books elevated the humble boot to high art, once called Mr. Jones "the boot maker's boot maker."

Lampasas, site of boot mural Mr. Jones' various apprentices continue making boots in Lampasas just the way their mentor taught them, and folks around these parts recognize their work as the essence of regional art.

"Cowboy boots are such a unique form," said T.J. Mabrey, who led the project as chairwoman of Vision Downtown Lampasas' art committee, "and they're so closely associated with such a special culture – boot makers and cowboys."

Capturing cowboy culture on a 15-by-46-foot exterior wall required not just artistic skill, but computer savvy, plenty of willing hands and a whole lot of ingenuity, like using an overhead projector mounted on the bed of a pickup to trace the basic outlines of the mural.

Once the art committee and various officials decided on boots as the subject for the first of at least four murals, the call went out for boots themselves, especially those crafted by Mr. Jones and his apprentices.

And just like that, the artists had a treasure trove from which to choose – 150 pairs, some dating to the 1940s, in eye-searing hues few had expected.

"I was so surprised by the colors," said Donna Clark, one of the muralists, "and by the different designs, like the boots with the playing cards."

"I really loved the little kids' boots," said Kellie Hughes, who photographed the boots and many of their owners. "And every time I thought I was done, I'd turn around and there would be more boots to shoot."

More often than not, the boots spent their lives within a few miles of the bench on which they were built – like the pair Mr. Jones crafted years ago for Ms. Hughes' husband.

"I didn't even know Flint had a pair of Mr. Jones' boots," she said, "and I've moved them around the house a dozen times."

But considering that Mr. Hughes is a bull rider, owning a pair of Ray Jones boots – or those of his successors, like Pablo or John Jass or Joaquin Medina – only makes sense.

Mr. Beard, the Dallas author, wrote why he loved Ray Jones boots and why local ranchers and "cowmen" would wear nothing else.

"They were tough as hell, plain to average in description, with only two choices of stitch pattern," said the writer, who used to live within walking distance of the new mural.

"Most folks never saw the second choice because Ray didn't like it."

But even Mr. Jones would build boots of just about any color imaginable, and other makers often let their artistic fancy fly, so this mural is as bold as it is big, with reds and oranges, yellows, blues and purples that pop from the wall of Jerry Goodson's surveying business.

There are even a few special accoutrements, an idea proffered by a schoolboy who stopped to watch the artists at work.

"We were talking about the symbols and the spurs on some of the boots, and he said, 'Wouldn't it be cool to have real spurs?' " Ms. Mabrey said. "So now we have two spurs, a buckle and the seal on the Texas Rangers boot."

Besides bringing a big bolt of color to the old downtown, the thing the mural does best is start conversations and foster a sense of community in this town of 6,000.

"We had two German ladies who were staying in Austin prevail upon their host to come up to see it," Ms. Clark said.

"And we realized we have this in common – art that can be a catalyst for conversations on the street," Ms. Mabrey added.

One lifelong resident told organizers that she struck up a conversation with someone wearing Ray Jones boots in Alaska.

She recognized them by Mr. Jones' telltale design elements: long, white pulls at the top, white cord side seams and the oversize "toe bug" he favored.

Mr. Jones might not have liked the fuss. But the dozens of people who stopped by to take pictures of the mural on a brisk weekend morning knew differently.

There's art in those old boots, big enough for the whole world to see.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5159
12-03-2008 07:59 AM ET (US)

Shane O'Neal boots, collection of CBBN
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12-03-2008 08:09 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-03-2008 09:57 AM
Shane O'Neal worked with noted saddle and boot maker Tooter Cannon of Dickens Texas. The chevron wrinkles are used by a few boot makers, J L Christensen was another who used them.

Charles Weldon "Tooter" Cannon started making boots & saddles at ranches, and opened a shop in Tulsa OK in 1944. He moved to Spur TX in 1949 and had a shop there. In 1968 he moved to Dickens. He passed away in 1997.

If you are in the Lubbock area in the next few months, stop by the National Ranching Heritage Center, they have a recreation of Tooter Cannon's saddle shop.

Tooter Cannon Saddle Shop May 24, 2008 to May 3, 2009.
Features the tools and equipment from C.W. "Tooter" Cannon's saddle shop in Dickens, Texas.

(thanks to Terry Young for the info)
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5161
12-03-2008 10:04 AM ET (US)
CBBN, beautiful boots. Not only are the chevron wrinkles distinctive, but I also like the heel counters, the stitch pattern, and the unusual one hole pull.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5162
12-03-2008 11:06 AM ET (US)

Tooter Cannon boots, collection of Tom Smith
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5163
12-03-2008 11:07 AM ET (US)
emmett,

You can see a lot of Tooter Cannon in those boots.
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5164
12-03-2008 11:31 AM ET (US)
CBBN, does that last boot you posted from the Tom Smith collection, does it have one pull hole AND a pull strap?

Also I note the small 'cookie stictch' next to the side seam which I have only seen on San Angelo boots; i.e., M.L. Leddy and Mercer.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5165
12-03-2008 11:39 AM ET (US)
Yep, pull hole and boot pull.

The San Angelo side stitch is not always a sign of a San Angelo (Mercer, Leddy, Garrison, Franklin) boot. I've even seen it used in factory boots, or other Panhandle Texas area boots.

Rusty Franklin told me years ago that he thought Charlie Garrison (San Angelo) was the first with that side stitch.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5166
12-03-2008 11:42 AM ET (US)

Larger picture
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12-03-2008 08:03 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5168
12-04-2008 10:37 AM ET (US)
Brian,

Yep, I know, Tex has told me that. I haven't seen a pair of Tooter's with chevron wrinkles though.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5169
12-04-2008 10:42 AM ET (US)

Tooter Cannon boots, collection of Tom Smith
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5170
12-04-2008 11:38 AM ET (US)
CBBN, so, what is the deal on the pulls on these Tooter Cannon boots? It looks like one pull is completely inside, and the other is inside and out. Are we looking at a repair job, missing pulls, or were the outside pulls entirely inside on these boots, while the inside pulls were both in and out? Somehow I am all twisted around, straighten me out if that is possible. Also, the soles on these boots, where'd they go?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5171
12-04-2008 11:47 AM ET (US)
emmett,

I believe that the boots on post 5169 have broken pull straps, one on the right-side of the right boot, and one on the left-side of the left boot. I took those photos years ago (2003?), so I can't remember exactly. I think what you are seeing is the remnent of the pull straps. There are soles on the boots, they may have been on the thin (worn) side.
Brian C. ThomasPerson was signed in when posted  5172
12-04-2008 01:42 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5173
12-04-2008 03:22 PM ET (US)
I forgot about that, senior moment.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5174
12-07-2008 03:16 PM ET (US)

JL Christensen Boots, collection LDPNDP
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12-07-2008 03:17 PM ET (US)

Stitch pattern Christensen Boots, collection LDPNDP
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5176
12-07-2008 03:18 PM ET (US)

Probably Myron Pumphrey Boots (Abilene TX) collection LDPNDP
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12-07-2008 03:20 PM ET (US)

Pumphrey Boots (Abilene TX) stitch pattern collection LDPNDP
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5179
12-07-2008 09:32 PM ET (US)
DOn't know where exactly he was located, I know it was downtown. Alan Bell told me, so give him a call.

I think it must have been going in the mid-1950s to 1970s, but it is a guess.
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JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5181
12-12-2008 09:28 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-12-2008 09:28 AM
I have a really nice pair of all-elephant talltop boots (with an inlaid ranch brand) from the "Pickard Boot Company" of Raymondville Texas. Does anybody know anything about this outfit? Thanks!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5182
12-12-2008 03:50 PM ET (US)
JerryC,

I have seen a few of their boots on Ebay but that is about it.

Pickard & Boots Co
Address: 15510 77 Business, Raymondville, TX 78580
Phone: (956) 689-2007
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5183
12-12-2008 05:31 PM ET (US)

Info from Terry Young and Len Boden on Pumphrey:

400 block of Pine in Abilene, on east side in same block with the Windsor hotel.

I believe he died in the mid-1980s.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5184
12-13-2008 11:44 AM ET (US)

James Leddy Boots, Abilene TX, collection of CBBN
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5185
12-17-2008 02:15 PM ET (US)
I just won a great pair of custom cowboy boots on ebay, but there is no makers name in them. Can anyone ID who made them? Click on the link to see the listing with pics. Thanks! Steve

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180313153411
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5186
12-17-2008 02:40 PM ET (US)
Nothing definate. The top stitching reminds me of Kolton Ross Roberts, who is also a saddlemaker and made boots for Alan Jackson. He was in Olney, TX, now I think he is in Jacksboro TX. The vamp and counter tongue are different, but I have seen a couple different versions with his boots.

I have a pair of his at home to compare, when you get these post more pictures.
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5187
12-24-2008 02:26 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-24-2008 02:27 PM
Holiday 2008

   May your horse always guide you
   May your saddle fit just right
   May you count your New Year's Blessings
   In the wondrous stars so bright

   May you ride in peace and safety
   Wherever you may roam
   May you drink when you are thirsty
   The love of Heart and Home

   May your inner sense guide you
   When the path becomes too steep
   For the Good Shepherd watches over you
   Just look for the light and leap!

     - Jeanne L. Thompson


Best wishes to all for the coming year.

James
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12-24-2008 11:51 PM ET (US)
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CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5189
12-24-2008 11:53 PM ET (US)

Merry Christmas. May there be a pair of custom or vintage boots under the tree.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5190
12-28-2008 09:03 PM ET (US)
All, I hate to hear this happening to a boot shop. Lets hope that they will recover, and come back better than ever.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/dec/2...n-building-on-fire/

Downtown building destroyed in fire
By Jennifer Rios
Originally published 02:16 p.m., December 28, 2008
Updated 05:46 p.m., December 28, 2008
 
Photo by Brian Connelly

San Angelo firefighters battle a two-alarm fire at the Rusty Franklin Custom Boots building on Avenue B and Chadbourne Street in downtown.


Robert Brest, owner of Rusty Franklin Custom Boots for five years, was at home making lunch when he learned the downtown building was on fire. From outside his home on Harrison, he could see the smoke.

The store, a 10,000 square foot shop that produced boots, chaps, saddles and "just everything that a cowboy needs and works with," Brest said.

Sunday afternoon San Angelo firefighters worked for more than four hours to extinguish a fire that torched the building at Avenue B and Chadbourne Street.

"I don't know what I'm going to do now," Brest said. "I'm sure we're going to do something, I just don't know what."

Battalion Chief Clay Hubbard said no one was there at the time of the fire. No one has been injured in the fire.

Firefighters arrived on the scene around noon today, where they found smoke coming from the second story window and front door of the building, he said.

Hubbard said he thought the blaze started around the stairwell on the second floor. When they arrived, it was not engulfed in flames, but the staircase was too spongy to walk on. Brest said the staircase is the only way to reach the second floor.

Over the next few hours firefighters attacked the building, especially the second floor windows, from outside, Hubbard said. At one point firefighters entered the room, but had to retreat as wood and debris began to fall from the ceiling. By 3 p.m., the roof had caved in and firefighters worked to extinguish fire trapped underneath.

Five engines and about 28 firefighters responded to the fire, Hubbard said.

Fire Investigator Thomas Truett said he did not have enough information to conclude whether the fire was accidental or suspicious.

"We've collected information from witnesses about the case," Truett said, "but the exact cause is still under investigation."

He said he would investigate the fire Monday morning.

"It may not be cool enough to do much looking until tomorrow," he said.

Brest said the next step for him is to speak with his insurance agent and see what can be done.

Items from boot competitions, paintings and photos given to him from "rodeo guys" are gone, Brest said, along with "lots of saddles." Boot and saddle making equipment, along with business ledgers were also lost.

"I just fell in love with the boot and the saddle deal, and that's what I wanted to do," he said. "I wanted to be the best at it."

Brest said when the shop made boots for Tommy Lee Jones and Javier Bardem for "No Country for Old Men," business picked up. He was thinking of hiring more employees to keep up with the demand for custom boots - orders were backed up a year from when someone ordered a pair.

He said his customers, who paid half down when they ordered boots, will have to call him since he has no way of reaching them.

"I've got to help my customers too," he said. "Everything we do is in that building, and it burned."
2stepbootsPerson was signed in when posted  5191
12-30-2008 08:52 AM ET (US)
Hi Folks,

What can anyone tell me about Remington Boot Company in El Paso TX? I got a real nice pair of burgandy sharkskin boots from my girlfriend for Christmas made by them. But I don't know anything about them.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5192
12-30-2008 09:38 AM ET (US)
2steps,

I don't know when/how they started, but I believe they went out of business around 2000. I also have a pair, if I recall correctly the soles were nailed. IMO, they were fairly good factory boot, they just had too much competition from Lama, Nocona, Justin, etc.

A friend of mine repped for them, I'll try to get more info.
Dan in AustinPerson was signed in when posted  5193
12-31-2008 01:15 AM ET (US)
From my records:

Remington Boot Co.
12124 Rojas Drive, Ste D
El Paso, TX 79936
800-530-8840

They are no longer in business.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5194
12-31-2008 07:53 AM ET (US)

Well, the parrot survived!

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/dec/3...ves-sunday-inferno/

Parrot survives Sunday inferno

By Jennifer Rios (Contact)
Originally published 12:00 a.m., December 31, 2008
Updated 12:46 a.m., December 31, 2008

Covered in soot, but otherwise unscathed, Chester - the parrot who lived in Robert Brest's store - ordered fire investigators away from the rubble after they found him hiding beneath a table, two days after a two-alarm fire destroyed the historic building.

"Get off my property" - one of the bird's learned phrases - was what employees and fire administrators heard when they entered the building Tuesday to investigate the cause of the fire.

Insurers are still evaluating damage, said Robert Brest, owner of Brest Boots/R.E. Donaho Saddle Co., and a building inspector out of Dallas is scheduled to arrive today.

A blaze that gutted the 10,000-square-foot building Sunday, and took 28 San Angelo firefighters hours to control, started around noon, fire officials said.

The historic downtown building was still roped off Tuesday when Fire Investigator Thomas Truett took a look around. Until then, no one had been allowed to enter the two-story structure. The last remains of the fire were finally snuffed by firefighters around noon Monday, and inspectors waited to ensure the remaining shell of brick was stable before entering.

One employee in particular was thrilled to have the store's mascot back.

"When I saw those green feathers on the top of the cage ... I couldn't stop crying," said Lydia Garcia, a boot top designer at the store. "I couldn't believe he survived."

Robert and his wife own the tropical bird, and people had already been asking them about Chester, Brest said.

"He went for cover I guess," Brest said, adding that he could hear chirping Monday but was unable to enter the building.

Mark Sloan, another employee of Brest's, pushed a broom handle under the office desk by the filing cabinet, and Chester clambered onto it.

The bird had been left in its cage at the store, as usual, but the twist ties that normally secure the cage door were left off. Chester is able to undo the lock, Garcia said, which is what likely saved his life.

"Today he was being super nice," Garcia said. "He's glad to be out of that place."
Dan in AustinPerson was signed in when posted  5195
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To answer some questions about Capitol Saddlery, I worked there in college learning the craft. My first boots, made in the summer of 1972, were custom-made brown calfskin by Charlie Dunn.

The move to North Austin is a result of the value of the block on Lavaca Street, two blocks from the Capitol. The block has been, or will be, sold for several million dollars.

Frankly, the building was a massive fire trap, three floors that would burn down quickly if there were a real fire. We had an inspector come in once (for insurance), he sited that there were a hundred things "wrong with the building"! It was home though...

In the front, on the first floor was boot repair, and the custom boot equipment in the middle and back. More boot equipment was on the third floor (saddle shop).

On the second floor there was kept thousands of leather samples (also on the second floor were retail English equine equipment).

The shop has had two boot makers over the last twenty years or so, Rubin Santos and Ramon Navarro. Each make custom bespoke boots, and they do so on some of the oldest equipment that you'll ever see. Each bootmaker signs his name in ink on the inside of the upper (in addition to the label).

Custom Saddles, chaps, and and leather goods are made.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5196
01-02-2009 10:42 AM ET (US)
Dan in Austin,,

Thanks for the info. Yes, you're right that it was a good move, especially since it was a "fire trap." I am not familiar with Austin, what part of town is the new shop at?

I went in the shop several years ago, after Buck Steiner died, and it did have that old leather shop feel to it, which I love.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5197
01-02-2009 10:20 PM ET (US)

Paul Bond Boots, collection of Marvin Morrison
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01-02-2009 10:23 PM ET (US)
Paul Bond Boots below are burgundy kangaroo vamp. The toe and heels foxing are burgundy shark. The tops are a shade under 15" and are red calf skin with the six rows of stitching found in the Mount Trumbull (style 16A) with a burgundy strip of shark on each pull strap.
The heels are 1 5/8" with a nice undershot and the toes are between the 2D and D style.

Marvin has wanted to own a pair of Paul Bond Boots for 35 years and it looks like he did good with his first order.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5199
01-06-2009 04:47 PM ET (US)
I got some information on Remington Boots, they were started in early 1990s by an former Tony Lama employee. They tried to compete with the Big Three. They also made boots for the Cavenders Boot City stores. They went out of business around 2001. There is talk that they may start up again.
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Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5201
01-19-2009 01:22 PM ET (US)
This article hit the San Antonio paper today.
 
The Link (With photos):
 
http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20090104/FEATURES01/901020326
 
The story:
 
Tyler Man Turns Boots Into A Real Kickin' Collection
 
By MAEGAN MCGOWEN Feature Writer

The distinctive smells of leather and cologne greet you as you enter the closet of D.M. Edwards.
Rows and rows of boots, in immaculate, perfect order, not a speck of dirt on them, line the shelves.
There are exotic boots made from the mountainous, craggy skin of an alligator, scaly boots made from snake skin, electric blue boots, deep green boots and a beautifully tooled pair of "Tyler" boots, complete with the words "Lone" and "Star" emblazoned on them.

Even with 126 pairs, Edwards, a Tyler businessman and self-proclaimed collector, is still searching for more.

"The goal over the last 30 years has been to have at least one pair of boots of every exotic skin that's made," he said. "And I keep looking for exotic skinned boots that I don't have in my collection."

Glancing down the rows of boots on Mr. Edwards' shelves can be deceiving because many of the plainest-looking pairs are the rarest boots of all.


"Some of the ones that I have that are the most difficult to find are the boots made from Texas turkey skin, Texas deer skin, African tree-toads, African wildebeest, Australian kangaroo, rhinoceros and hippopotamus."


Edwards smiled to himself as he told a story about a young girl who visited his boot collection three or four years ago.

"When we finished the tour, she said, 'Mr. Edwards, I bet animals run when they see you coming,'" he said, laughing.


Boots aren't the only thing Edwards collects, and as a tour through his closet progresses, there are color-coordinated western jackets hanging neatly, western ties organized on tie racks and exquisitely crafted western belts and buckles.


"Being a native Texan, I've always enjoyed the great things about our Texas heritage, whether they are from the frontier days or the Old South days or the days of the Wild West," he said.


His collection began with a pair of yellow calfskin boots belonging to his grandfather.


"They are too small for me to wear, but they have a lot of sentimental value," he said. "My family has always had ranches in Texas, and when dealing with horses and cattle, boots are always the natural thing to wear."


This particular pair was worn by his grandfather in the Gladewater Rodeo in the 1950s.


"My Grandfather and my Dad had a matching pair of palomino horses and they would wear their yellow boots when they rode in parades," he said. "The boots were made back in the 1940s, and they are a good example of type of design you saw back then, yellow with white trim and green stitching."


When Edwards rattled off a list of his favorite boot makers, comfort, not aesthetics, was the most important stipulation.


"My favorite makers are Larry Mahan, a former champion all-around cowboy, who makes some of the most comfortable boots, Lucchese boots, they have a wonderful fit, and Tony Lama," he said. "I also like some of the other long-time brands like Justin. Some of the most interesting and unique custom boots are by Rocketbuster and Rocky Carroll in Houston."


Edwards owns several pairs of Rocketbuster boots, including boots resembling the ones Gene Autry, John Wayne and Roy Rogers owned.


Most people would hesitate to wear such rare and unique creations, but Edwards wears them in a yearly rotation.


"I get to each one about three times a year," he said. "There are some boots like the electric eel skin boots that you only wear country-western dancing on a Saturday night. You have to pick the appropriate skin for the occasion."


And for someone who is looking to buy their first pair of boots, Edwards offered sound advice.


"Go to any quality boot store and find a pair of French calfskin or sharkskin if you want something durable to start your collection," he said. "We're blessed in this part of the Southwestern United States to have a lot of excellent custom boot makers that supply all of the United States with quality boots," he said. "We really live in the heart of an area that knows how to produce the quality boots that Texans like to wear."


When asked if he had to pick only one pair of boots to keep, Edwards shook his head.


"I can't pick just one pair," he said, grinning widely. "That's like asking a person to pick their favorite child."
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5202
01-19-2009 02:05 PM ET (US)
It is contagious……….
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5203
01-20-2009 07:15 AM ET (US)

Yes it is!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5204
01-20-2009 08:17 AM ET (US)
The owner of the boots in post 5203 must be a real nut case!
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5205
01-20-2009 08:19 AM ET (US)
I,too, have collected boots with an eye to getting all different hides (I draw the line at sea bass and eel because I think they're gimmicky). I even have camel. But RHINO?? I've never seen that one. Must make a tough boot!
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5206
01-20-2009 10:00 AM ET (US)
Sounds less like a collection and more like an inanimate zoo.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5207
01-20-2009 10:20 AM ET (US)
Most skins like eel, frog, sea bass, are more of a novelty boot. It is okay to collect them just to collect. There is a good reason why calf, kangaroo, and bullhide are more popular. They have a track record on durability.
JerryCPerson was signed in when posted  5208
01-20-2009 10:54 AM ET (US)
Camel is EXTREMELY tough, and so is hippo. And some more delicate hides, like alligator lizard, are quite beautiful. I also have a pair of shell cordovan boots (made from muscles in horse butt) that have a lovely, waxlike vamp.
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http://reporternews.com/news/2009/jan/24/h...ome-to-some-of-the/

Honoring theCraft
Abilene is home to some of the world's best boot makers

By Suzanne McKeon
Special to the Reporter-News
Saturday, January 24, 2009

Dedicated to the history of boot making and the artistry of design, these boot makers are true artists in their own right.

Boot making is where design, function and craftsmanship meet.

True custom boot making, according to Jennifer June, author of "Cowboy Boots: The Art & Sole," involves 372 steps, including measuring, lastmaking, patternmaking, cutting and assembling pieces, lasting, inseaming, bottoming, and finishing.

While factories' cost-cutting measures prompt them to speed through, mechanize and skip all the steps they can, a custom maker's business relies heavily upon careful craftsmanship and the ability to attract repeat customers, says June, a boot maker herself.

According to June, there are approximately 250 boot makers in the nation -- "none of them rich." A handful live right here in Abilene.

Abilene's custom boot makers have a range of experiences -- from the famed James Leddy Boots to the somewhat "new kid on the block," Brian Thomas, whose been making boots since 1975.

Clarence Garrison lives in Abilene and is no longer active in the boot making business, but has hopes that a family member may continue on with the tradition. Garrison preferred to make boots for people in the livestock business over celebrities because he wanted to produce boots for "regular working people who really used them."

As with most boot makers, he never advertised his services and said that getting repeat customers was dependent on how well you did your job.

"When they walked out and your name was on that boot -- it was your reputation," he says.

'All about the fit'

For Brian Thomas, "the fit" determines whether someone is going to be a successful custom boot maker or not.

"I don't care how fancy it is -- they'd better fit," he said.

Thomas says the biggest compliment he can get is when he sees "the most wore out boot with patches all over it because somebody loved it."

Thomas retired from the Air Force after a 20-year career and opened up his shop in Abilene in January 2005. While he has been open for a relatively short time, he has quickly risen to an award-winning, notable boot maker, grabbing the prestigious Annual Boot and Saddlemaker's Trade Show Roundup "Professionals Choice" Award three years running, beating out about 30 other professional custom boot makers across the U.S. The judges for this category are master boot makers, each with over 20 years experience in the custom boot making business. The award is given annually to the boot maker exhibiting excellence in artistry and craftsmanship.

Thomas firmly believes in upholding the traditional principles of boot making and cites a commitment to quality, fit and using only the best materials possible to his success.

'It's in my DNA'

Thomas apprenticed under the great W.L. "Tex" Robin, owner of Tex Robin Boots in Abilene. Robin is listed as one of the "25 Top Custom Boot Makers" by Texas Monthly magazine. He spent the large part of his bookmaking career in Coleman, but is now firmly planted in Abilene. For Robin, making boots is a "kind of obsession."

His father was a boot maker also and passed the skill and tradition on to his son.

"I was raised up in it -- it's in my DNA," he says. "To make a boot, you must have both artistic ability and mechanical ability."

Robin spends most of his days in his workshop located just outside his West Texas home. He makes boots for customers, has photos of Gov. Rick Perry sporting his handiwork -- and makes boots for his family members and grandchildren. He uses the same equipment that his father used in the 1940s and 1950s and doesn't see the need to change a thing.

Keeping tradition alive

James Leddy Boots is probably the best known of all the Abilene, Texas boot makers.

Paula Leddy has run the business since her husband, James, died in 2003. She has a sparkle in her crystal blue eyes when she talks about him and the custom boot business they built.

Leddy Boots has been in Abilene for 45 years James' dad was a boot maker, too. They started making "made to measure" boots in 1947. Leddy makes boots for Gov. Perry as well as many famous country Western singers, including Mel Tillis and George Jones. Paula says the biggest benefit of having a pair of custom made boots is that when made right, "their feet quit hurtin' and they go ahhhh."

She says designing a boot can be a highly personal and emotional proposition sometimes. She showed a pair of boots that were designed in memory for a family dog that had been killed in a car wreck and had the image of the dog designed into the boot. Boot designs run from the love of Texas incorporating the state flag to the whimsical (they have even made a pair featuring Tweety Bird).

A well-worn, dirt-covered pair of boots Leddy created with cracks in the toe leather and worn down heels was brought in by one of the cowboys she fitted. They often repair boots they create when needed. Paula says that in those instances, where someone wants their well-loved boots refurbished, "the manure comes in with it."

Leddy also honors the time-tested tradition of measuring each customer's foot by hand. They record the measurements in a large notebook and have archives of books going back to the beginning, where the first pair of boots Leddy made cost $41.83 in 1950. Today, the most expensive boots they create can run up to $10,000 a pair.

'Real boots for real people'

James Leddy was good friends with another Abilene-based boot maker -- Alan Bell.

"James was like my family. We couldn't have been any closer. I miss him terribly," says Bell.

Alan Bell Custom Boots has been doing business in Abilene for 32 years.

"I've never been anywhere else," Alan comments about his business.

He also prides himself on sticking to the time-honored tradition of custom boot making and still uses the equipment he has used over his 32-year career. Bell started out making saddles, but said that "only 4 percent of the population at the time needed saddles, but everyone needed boots," leading him toward making the commitment to becoming a master craftsman boot maker.

Bell prefers to make "real boots for real people" and says that celebrities are "a different breed of cats" who want the boots made yesterday versus having to wait for 16 or so months, which is his current turnaround time for a pair of custom boots Bell treats all his customers equally no matter what their financial stature is.

Bell and his wife, Pauline, work collaboratively on each pair made, with her doing all the topstitching while he does everything else himself. Bell says he has absolutely no idea about sizing because he hand measures each customer's foot and is only focused on the fit.

He does all of his business by word-of-mouth and reputation -- just like many of the other bookmakers -- and has no plans for any Internet presence. While Bell has a son, he claims his son has no intention of taking on the tradition.

"When I can't do this anymore, this ends with me, which makes me sort of sad," he said.

Ostrich to alligator

Luskey's/Ryon's Western Stores, which has an Abilene location, have been building custom boots for over 80 years. They work closely with their customers and walk them through every step and can create anything from a fine dress calfskin boot to something more exotic using skins such as ostrich or alligator.

Michael Gilmore, their in-house boot consultant, is extremely knowledgeable and happily invests the time to work with customers to create the boot of their dreams. Because they are a bigger operation, Luskey's can deliver a boot in approximately three or four months.

Boot makers: Endangered species

It's an investment to get a pair of custom boots with prices ranging anywhere from $500 for a basic pair to well into the thousands for more intricate work. For the most part, boot making is a family tradition passed on through the generations, but it has taken little traction with the current generation. Due to the fact that there are other businesses to make more money in, true custom boot makers may become an "endangered species."

These artisans are humble in nature, by and large, and take enormous pride in preserving the authentic nature in which boots are made. The Internet and its ability to reach out further and to more potential customers is helping to keep the business alive. But reputation is still the No. 1 marketing tool when it comes to keeping a custom boot maker in business because if the boot doesn't fit right, it's their name on it.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5213
01-29-2009 05:24 PM ET (US)
Good job Lee, Carrlyn and Julia!

http://gardenandgun.com/article/cowboy-cool?page=0%2C0

(Thanks for the link qiana)

Garden and Gun

By Joe Nick Patoski; Feb/March 09;

Cowboy Cool

Lee Miller crafts the perfect boot, stitch by stitch


Here’s a guarantee. Once you’ve slipped into a custom pair of Texas cowboy boots, handmade by master boot maker Lee Miller at Texas Traditions in South Austin, you’ll never go back to store bought.

And yes, there are other Texas boot maestros, but Miller stands out. Probably because he trained under Charlie Dunn, the most famous Texas boot maker who ever lived, probably because his celebrity client list is long and loyal (Lyle Lovett and Willie Nelson are collectors), and probably because his designs are so sought after that the waiting list starts at three years.

Accolades aside, his designs are truly worth the wait because of Miller’s contagious belief in the craft, the mystique. “The boot represents freedom, individuality, ruggedness. Boot making is so much an integral part of mythical Texas, especially the cowboy—it was his hat, his saddle, his cowboy boots,” says Miller, a native of the most un-cowboy state in the Union: Vermont. “Everybody wants to be a part of that. Very few states have a clear identity. Boots are a symbol of Texas. Boots are a way of life here.”

And though Miller developed a fascination with boots at an early age (“They made you feel different, more like “Watch out, here I am,’” he says), his real romance began in 1976 when he heard Jerry Jeff Walker sing lyrics that spoke to him:

Well, if you’re going to Austin, Texas,
a little run down on your sole
I’m going to tell you the name of
a man to see,
I’m going to tell you right where to go.
He’s working in Capitol Saddlery.
He’s sewing in the back of the place.
He’s old Charlie Dunn, the little frail
one with the smilin’ leathery face.

As luck and ambition would have it, two years later (after boot-making school and a stint in Utah) Miller found himself face to face with the Charlie Dunn, working as his newest apprentice. Dunn had retired from Austin’s famed Capitol Saddlery in 1975, and investors set him up in a new shop called Texas Traditions so that he could pass his knowledge on to a new generation. Miller hung on every word uttered by the shy little guy with the beret and quick temper, including his assessment of his new student: “You’re a damn Yankee, but we won’t hold it against you.”

Eager to please, Miller pressed on and still remembers the lessons he learned in those early days. “Charlie was such a good artist,” he says. “He always said if the boot didn’t fit, it wasn’t worth anything. It didn’t matter how beautiful the boot was. The focus was on doing every step right. I can still hear him preaching to me. ‘Don’t you ever do this, don’t ever do that because you’ll cheapen the boot.’ I’m trying to stay true to the way he did it.”

It’s a good thing Miller listened so carefully, and a good thing Dunn gave him a pass, because in 1986, Miller took over Texas Traditions. “It’s kind of weird,” admits Miller. “I didn’t do it with the idea I was going to become the man. I did it because I loved it.” His team, including wife Carrlyn, assistant Julia Parmeter, and various apprentices (including one under contract with Hermčs), churns out about a hundred pairs a year.

The average tab runs about $1,900, figuring in an interlaced monogram, and maybe some Charlie Dunn–style roses, tulips, bluebonnets, or prickly pear cactus—all constructed of fine skins like full quill ostrich, kangaroo, calf, or increasingly, water buffalo. Lately, customers have been asking for boots with a vintage feel. “We have designs that go back to 1937, and people are always asking us to go back and pull something out,” Carrlyn says.

Comfort is the ultimate payoff, as is the unique feel of wearing a pair engineered just for you, a pair with a story worth telling. Currently, Miller himself is wearing a pair of his own making (complete with barbed-wire motifs decorating the tops). “These are old boots,” he says, shrugging self-effacingly. “I made them to have boots to put on the shelf. Boot makers notoriously never make boots for themselves. So when my old boots fell apart, I pulled these off the shelf and started wearing them.”

Like the other boots he’s been making, the pair he’s wearing will last forever, or at least twenty-five years, thanks to intricate construction details, like using forty-penny nails for the steel shank of the boot. “If you tore apart a boot that was a hundred years old, you could see it was made in the same manner as we make a boot here today,” Miller says.

And what advice might Lee Miller impart, now that he’s the master? “The boot has to be as fine as you can make it,” he says. “There are just so many ways to make a boot.”

It’s just that his way might be the best way of all.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5214
01-29-2009 05:26 PM ET (US)

Lee Miller and Texas Tradition Boots, Julia Parmeter in the background
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Can anyone ID the bootmaker of the boots below? I just won them on ebay.
I was thinking maybe James Owen? They have a really distinctive tongue design. Thanks! Steve
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5220
02-13-2009 01:32 AM ET (US)
Looks like Owens, especially if there is a diamond stitch pattern on the counter, where it meets the top
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PhillyTexanPerson was signed in when posted  5222
02-20-2009 11:47 AM ET (US)
Nice piece on npr morning edition about custom boot and shoemaker in Hollywood. Listen on the web at http://www.npr.org/
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5223
02-24-2009 04:07 PM ET (US)

Bicentenial Boots
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5224
02-24-2009 04:09 PM ET (US)
Been kinda slow on here lately so I thought I'd post some color.
Bicentenial Boots L-R are Nocona, Larry Mahan, Tony Lama and Justin.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5225
02-24-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-24-2009 04:21 PM

Gene Autry Boots, unknown collection, unknown maker.
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Gene Autry Boots, unknown maker and collector
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Gene Autry boot closet, more recent version.
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Edited by author 02-25-2009 12:19 PM
Some history......

Azle News Online

Competing boot makers lived 30 miles apart (Thursday, July 10, 2008)

In April I wrote about “Miss Enid” Justin and her sponsorship of a Pony Express ride to San Francisco to publicize her Nocona Boot Company. I had recently learned that she married Julius Stelzer, but the marriage ended in divorce in 1934.

While searching for photos for a project, I saw pictures of two displays at the 1941 Southwestern Exposition and Fat Stock Show and Rodeo while it was held in the Fort Worth Stockyards – a booth for Nocona Boots and one promoting Olsen-Stelzer Boots.

“Was the “Stelzer” the one who married Miss Enid?” I wondered. Julius Stelzer, right after the divorce, traveled only 30 miles west to Henrietta, Texas and went into partnership with Carl Olsen, who had been making fancy made-to-order boots since the early 1900s. Stelzer told Olsen he could increase sales with a production model, because that is what Stelzer learned from his years with the H.J. Justin family, Enid’s father.

Thus began the Olsen-Stelzer Boot Company, which by 1939 produced 500 pairs of boots per week. Carl Olsen died shortly thereafter, but his two sons, Norman and Harry continued, Norman as business manager, and Harry, design and production. Poor Enid, not only did she and her husband split up, he was 30 miles away as a competitor.

After Miss Enid’s passing, John Justin absorbed her boot company into the larger Justin Enterprises, Inc. and after Berkshire Hathaway took control of Justin, closed the Nocona facility. Does Olsen-Stelzer Boot Company still exist in Henrietta? Yes, it does.

“I just delivered a pair of kangeroo boots to a Dallas lawyer,” explained Tom Cartlidge, who handles sales. He told me the history. After Stelzer’s death, the Olsen brothers continued in business until 1978 when they sold to a partnership which constructed a new building. They lasted only a few years, closing in 1982.

Cartlidge, who has been sales manager for Tony Lama, told me that as a teenager in Henrietta he remembered being fitted for a pair of boots by Harry Olsen, and wanted the specialized boot making in his hometown again. He learned that the corporate name of Olsen-Stelzer was available. He helped form a group of stockholders, acquired the name, and opened in 1990 at 114 S. Main in a part of the original boot shop. He said that they prepared an order of boots with “Big Tex” on one side and “State Fair of Texas 2007” on the other for donors for the State Fair of Texas Livestock Program.

Henrietta resident Donald Miller, owner of Montana Boot Warehouse, the distributor for Montana Boots in the U.S. and Canada, is also a stockholder in Olsen-Stelzer Boots. Just like Olsen did the fancy work and Stelzer the larger production styles, Cartlidge sells the production boot orders that Montana Boot manufactures, and also represents Olsen-Stelzer with its special one-of-a kind more expensive boot orders. By so doing, the century-old company of Olsen-Stelzer continues its excellence into the twenty-first century. (Miss Enid’s Nocona Boots are made today at the Tony Lama Boot factory in El Paso as part of the Justin Brands boots.)

I had been aware of Nocona Boots, but not until a couple of weeks ago did I learn of Olsen-Stelzer Boots. They are quite famous, one of the most collectible boots ever; people buy used ones on E-Bay. The long list of folks who wore Olsen-Stelzer Boots includes Presidents Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower, Western singers Roy Rogers and Gene Autry and actor John Wayne.

I have learned that Miss Enid married a second time, in 1940, to Harry Whitman who worked at Nocona Boots. He divorced her in 1945, went to Wichita Falls and with some investors started a boot company that lasted until the 1950s. No wonder Enid Justin Stelzer Whitman decided to be just “Miss Enid.”

From her grave, however, she may have had the last laugh. When the 80th Texas Legislature in 2007 passed a resolution making the cowboy boot the official “State Footwear of Texas,” of the three boot makers mentioned, the resolution cited her along with Sam Lucchese and Tony Lama, Sr.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5229
02-25-2009 12:39 PM ET (US)

Gene Autry boot closet circa 1940s
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5230
02-25-2009 12:40 PM ET (US)

"Decisions decisions...........
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5231
02-25-2009 12:41 PM ET (US)

"Okay, this pair!"
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5232
02-25-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)

Replica Autrey boots at his museum
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5233
02-25-2009 04:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-25-2009 04:09 PM

Let the boots fall, Lucchese, Nocona and Rocketbusters, collection of CBBN
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5234
02-25-2009 04:25 PM ET (US)

Back at ya....
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5235
02-25-2009 04:28 PM ET (US)
Hey, you are getting kinda wild with the inlays!...TR
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5236
02-25-2009 04:28 PM ET (US)

Rocketbuster Autrey Replica
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5237
02-25-2009 04:52 PM ET (US)
Tex,

We musta woke ya up!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5238
02-25-2009 10:34 PM ET (US)

Let the boots fall Part 2, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5239
02-25-2009 10:35 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-25-2009 11:03 PM
Texas Flag boots-Tex Robin
Cactus boots - Tex Robin
Horseshoe - James Leddy
Indian Headdress - Rocketbuster
Butterflys - Ammons
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5240
02-25-2009 10:54 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-26-2009 08:57 AM
BTW~ I sold Marty the original boot that Rocketbuster used for the 'headress' pattern. The original one {yes just 1} came from a barn in West Texas and passed through a few hands before I got it, nobody else had realized it was a headress; of course you have to realize it was dirty and had been neglected for years ...... but the design was apparent to me and the workmanship was wonderful despite the condition ~ ahh memories !
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5241
02-25-2009 10:59 PM ET (US)

one-piece vamps ~ cuban heels ~ oh yeah
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5242
02-25-2009 11:01 PM ET (US)

stitched bell and star on top was 'fancy' in its day ... San Fran Ca maker
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5243
02-25-2009 11:02 PM ET (US)

classics
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5244
02-25-2009 11:03 PM ET (US)

Tombstone Style
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5245
02-25-2009 11:04 PM ET (US)

Cowgirl Wild West Show Boots
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5246
02-25-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-26-2009 10:05 PM

Stewart Romero w/ Blue Ribbon from 1951 Ca. State Fair
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5247
02-26-2009 07:47 AM ET (US)

Stewart Romero, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5248
02-26-2009 07:48 AM ET (US)
A. Wilkinson good to see you posting, those are old boots, circa 1880s?
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5249
02-26-2009 07:50 AM ET (US)

Rocketbuster replica of Andy's original head dress boots
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5250
02-26-2009 07:57 AM ET (US)

Jennifer June's boots
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5251
02-26-2009 09:03 AM ET (US)
Yes, they are circa 1880's {approx.} I've had the pleasure of finding some very nice ones. They have really peaked my interest BUT I still get excited when I find a 'killer' pair of vintage inlays!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5252
02-26-2009 08:38 PM ET (US)

Butterflys, collection of LDPNDP
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5253
02-26-2009 08:39 PM ET (US)

Rusty Franklin Boots, collection of LDPNDP
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5254
02-26-2009 08:40 PM ET (US)

Stewart Romero inlayed boots, collection of LDPNDP
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5255
02-26-2009 09:39 PM ET (US)

I'll see your Romero, and raise you a Griffith Blucher....
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5256
02-27-2009 03:20 PM ET (US)

Which pair today?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5257
02-27-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)

I'll see your Griffith Blucher, and raise you a Texas Traditions Lee Miller....
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5258
02-28-2009 03:55 AM ET (US)
That is beautiful stitching..........I've got a project going on right now with Paul Bond Boots and using the variegated thread......8 rows going on to an Oxblood color.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5259
02-28-2009 07:30 AM ET (US)

In case you needed some different boots for top page of this QT
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5260
02-28-2009 09:52 PM ET (US)
I have been asked a few times to change my boots on truck tool box picture. It was so difficult to upload the current one, I doubt if I do it again.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5261
03-02-2009 08:52 PM ET (US)

ELECTRIC blue softy water buffalo, boots by Al Reynolds, Wickenburg AZ
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5262
03-03-2009 12:01 PM ET (US)

Hey Cowboy.................
ManInTheCrowdPerson was signed in when posted  5263
03-04-2009 05:04 AM ET (US)
Mabel Strickland wearing her favorite pair of boots, made by G.C. Blucher. Those were the days...
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5264
03-08-2009 01:37 PM ET (US)
Has anyone every heard of the bootmaker Darrell Loyd? I have a pair of his boots in my collection but had never seen another until today on ebay at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200315032463
I can't find any information about him on the Internet or boot sites. The label in the boots says Bakersfield Ca./Arlington Tx. so looks like he made boots at 2 places. The boots on ebay are lizard skins and look well made, just sorry they aren't my size 11d. Does anyone have any info. on him?
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5265
03-08-2009 03:30 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-08-2009 06:15 PM
turpin,
I can not tell you for sure where your boots or the ebay boots were made for sure. But my opinion they were not made by a typical bootmaker in a boot shop...In other words they are fakes...They look like a pair that were made in a factory typical of Larry Mahan's with very similar patterns. Anyone can put a label in a pair of boots or have a factory to put labels in them. I could be wrong but no self respecting bootmakers I know would copy this boot and put their name in it if they were a high end custom bootmaker that made real "Handmade Boots". If someone proves me wrong I will acknowledge it. But I have never heard of a real bootmaker named Darrell Loyd. If there was one correct me someone....TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5266
03-08-2009 04:57 PM ET (US)
I agree with Tex, they were probably made in a factory for a western store. That does look like an old Mahan pattern.

Most bootmakers like Tex, or high-end El Paso shops, use a one piece vamp too.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5267
03-09-2009 08:26 AM ET (US)
http://traveler.nationalgeographic.com/200...icle/morelli-text/2

Handmade Cowboy Boots
Laura Morelli

As in the past, today's artisanal bootmaker begins with cured animal hides, mostly commonly calfskin. Avid boot collectors appreciate rarer specialty hides like goat, armadillo, ostrich, shark, eel, boar, even bullfrog. Alligator hides command the highest prices because of their limited supply and the challenges of working the material. Other exotic hides, like elephant, were once coveted but are now banned from the hide market.

Today bootmaking is divided between handmade and mass production. Even some of the large-scale commercial boot factories employ specialized craftspeople who complete certain steps by hand. Many factories, some founded a century ago, operate today, including Justin, Lucchese, Nocona, and Tony Lama, carrying on venerable traditions of quality bootmaking. In addition, several hundred custom bootmakers are scattered across the west, many in West Texas. Some of the more well-known include Rocketbuster, Little's, Paul Bond, Stallion, and Tex Robin. The number of truly excellent boot craftspeople with thriving businesses is a testament to the value people place on this icon of American style.

No bootmaker worth his or her salt would consider making a custom pair of boots without fitting you in person. It may seem like an extravagance to travel to the wilds of West Texas just to have someone examine your arches, but artisan bootmakers say it's essential in getting the right fit. Each bootmaker boasts their own method—from measuring your feet and calves, to observing how you walk, and applying pressure to different parts of your foot. Part of the fitting process involves making a last—a wooden form that models how your individual foot will occupy the interior space of the boot—that is used to mold the boot leather. The artisan uses the last to tack down damp leather and affix the sole with pegs. Many will keep the last in case you want to place another order in the future.

The tools used to hand craft boots have changed little over time—simple pliers, shears, punches, hammers, and awls. What distinguishes each bootmaker are the finishing techniques, many painstaking and so individual that it is often possible to tell the maker by their stitching technique or a familiar motif. Hand-tooling is one such laborious technique, related to saddle-making and involving special experience with stamping and carving leather. Pitiado is another specialty in which artisans hand-sew cactus fibers into intricate designs, a process that may take weeks or even months to complete. Other signature designs may incorporate inlaid or overlaid colored leathers, and intricate stitch work.

Basic custom-made cowboy boots begin at a few hundred dollars, but quickly climb into the thousands for more unusual materials and special techniques. The reputation or popularity of the workshop, especially if it claims celebrities among its clientele, can also mean higher prices. Given the time and passion that go into each pair of boots, though, it's a small price to pay for one-of-a-kind works of art that will not only last a lifetime, but may be the only items in your closet that will never go out of style.


http://www.lauramorelli.com/
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5268
03-12-2009 07:58 PM ET (US)
For turpin,
Those Darrell Loyd boots are also listed on Craig's List for Yuma, AZ if you do a Google search.

Something I noticed is the name "Darrell Loyd" is in quotes on the label. Leads me to believe DL is not the name of the boot maker, but rather a style name or maybe a store name. It's not uncommon, even today, for stores to put their name of the inside of some of their inventory.

I have a nice Resistol cowboy hat I purchased from King's Western Wear in Studio City, CA when they were still business. The inside brim is labeled "King's Western Wear". Another example is Boot Star. They have boots made exclusively for them by Old Gringo, Lucchese and Rios of Mercedes.

The label their boxes "Boot Star by Old Gringo" ...etc
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5269
03-13-2009 11:23 AM ET (US)
Hey Guys! I think you are right, that they were made for a western store. Thanks for the feedback. Steve
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5270
03-22-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)
Hello there,

I've seen on the customcowboybootsandshoesforum that a couple bootmakers make norwegian welted boots, but I'm not able to see any norwegian welt as it's used in Europe, are there different ways to make it?

Regards,

Peter
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5271
03-22-2009 11:31 AM ET (US)

Norwegian welted shoes
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5272
03-22-2009 11:33 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-22-2009 11:33 AM

Norwegian welt detail. Shoes made by Riccardo Freccia Bestetti
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5273
03-22-2009 03:41 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-22-2009 03:43 PM
Peter B,

I am going to go on record as being opposed to this kind of welting. I am in no way saying that if you like it then do it or wear it..It is everyone's priviledge to like what they want to...I as a professional see no advantage to it at all other than," You just like the looks". We had the storm welts in the early days of my bootmaking and they did nothing, in my opinion but add more bulk to boots and shoes...In my opinion it is nothing but something different or for decoration...Anyone else is welcome here to come to it's praise and I won't argue with them..but my idea of a nice dressy boot or shoe is something with a single welt, only one row of welt stitching and a toe that has artistic shape whether it be square or round. If you disagree with this go ahead and be my guest. But my boots will always have a sleek and trim approach to styling, no matter what Europe or the rest of the world does...TR
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5274
03-22-2009 04:48 PM ET (US)
Tex,
I totally agree with you...
My question was just a technical couriosity...
I don't know if there is any advantage in welting this way or not,
but here it's an "excuse" to rise the price as it takes a lot of labor
and sometimes it's pushed as a way to show the maker's skills.

Regards.

Peter
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5275
03-22-2009 05:24 PM ET (US)
Peter B,

I am glad to hear that you agree with me...And yes some do charge more in Europe for this kind of work and I can understand why..It is more work to do extra work and should be charged for. There it is all done by hand. But I am afraid of just where our trade is going and I just have to say something because it irritates me sometimes to see some of it..Factory bootmakers started putting two rows of stitching on their boots because they couldn't make the low grade soles stay with all-prupose cement so they started using two rows and now we have bootmakers trying to see how many rows they can get on their boots. This is what I mean. Is it a thing of beauty to put multiple rows of stitching on a boot and to see just how big and ugly toes can be made? Not in my opinion and I just simply don't do these things just because a customer wants it. Now someone can slap me in the head for saying it but it won't change my opinion. I hope things are going well in Italy, my best regards...TR
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5276
03-22-2009 05:34 PM ET (US)
To All bootmakers,

I did not say that any particular bootmaker's boots were ugly so don't get it wrong...I said that some boot and shoe styles are ugly. So quote it right. Regards to all...TR
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5277
03-22-2009 05:50 PM ET (US)
Tex,
You know, it's an individual choice how to run you own business,
I'm quite a purist in mine and there is just one for me, no compromise.
In that I'm in total disagreement with "competitors" and I'm often asked
to fix their mistakes... Guess what's my answer...

Back to boots, nice lines and good leather don't need a stitch to me...

All the best-
Steve LautenPerson was signed in when posted  5278
04-10-2009 02:29 PM ET (US)
Did a little research on the topic of Darrell Loyd boots. I think I have found a potential answer:

There is a boot shop located at the Ballpark in Arlington. They are partnered with Lucchese to make custom boots for each individual. A little info as follows:

About Big Trail Ranch

   Founded in 2008, Big Trail Ranch is where legends are made.
Combining old west craftsmanship with new world technology, Big Trail
Ranch specializes in custom handmade Lucchese Classics Boots you
design. Whether visiting Big Trail's showroom in Arlington, Texas, or
exploring their website (www.bigtrailranch.com), Big Trail Ranch's
"Custom Boot Builder Technology," lets consumers express their inner
cowboy by creating their own original Lucchese Classics Boots.

Later Gator,
Steve
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5279
04-15-2009 04:55 PM ET (US)

Gotta love those old indian chief inlays...
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5280
04-19-2009 11:21 AM ET (US)

Rios boots, collection of LDPNDP
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5281
04-19-2009 11:22 AM ET (US)

Stewart Romero Boots, collection of LDPNDP
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5282
04-19-2009 09:15 PM ET (US)

Rocketbuster Chiefs
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5283
04-20-2009 04:04 PM ET (US)
Those Rios boots are awesome.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5284
05-13-2009 08:12 AM ET (US)

Tom Smith Boots, Aspermont TX
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5285
05-13-2009 08:13 AM ET (US)

James Leddy Boots, made for Governor Rick Perry 2008
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5286
05-13-2009 08:14 AM ET (US)

James Leddy Boots, made for Texas Governor Rick Perry in 2008
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5287
05-13-2009 04:36 PM ET (US)
Howdy there,
CBBN nice boots, are these tucked in, lucky Wranglers yours?
Do I need a pair of prescription glasses or the Governor boots do
have inlayed black condoms??? In that case does anyone told him
that black do make things appear thinner??? ;-)

All the Best
Peter B
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5288
05-13-2009 04:44 PM ET (US)
Peter B,

You need glasses. Those are cannons, its a Texas thang.

http://www.texasescapes.com/FEATURES/Gonza...own_artillery_i.htm

No, the boots (unfortunately) are not mine.
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5289
05-13-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)
Beautiful Leddy boots, but you know, the flags depicted on those boots were flown by Texians who were seeking the restoration of the Mexican Constitution of 1824, and not secession.

So for all his talk about "sovereignty" Gov. Perry won't be "walking the talk" in those boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5290
05-13-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-13-2009 05:23 PM
I should have mentioned that the boots were made for Governor Perry in May of 2008, before Texas sovereignty was mentioned by the governor.
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5291
05-13-2009 05:22 PM ET (US)
CBBN,
sorry, I can figure it out just now... It seemed too weird...
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5292
05-14-2009 09:40 AM ET (US)
FYI,

For those of you who look at or post on the Custom Cowboy Boot & Shoes Forum, there is a problem with the server. When you go to the Forum, it may give you an error message, IP Banned message, etc. If you click on your "refresh" tool button, the web-site may pop up, but it also may give you later problems in viewing posts, or trying to post a message. Please bear with me as we try to fix the issue.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5293
05-23-2009 11:57 PM ET (US)

Let us take sometime this weekend to honor all of those who made the sacrifice.
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5294
05-27-2009 06:24 AM ET (US)

Sea Turtle
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5295
05-27-2009 06:29 AM ET (US)

The Sea Trutle boots are mine... What are they worth ? They are 4 sale
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5296
05-27-2009 10:55 AM ET (US)
if anyone is interested in the Sea Turtle boots e-mail me at orosgold@hotmail.com also,the size says 28 1/2..anyoneknow what size that is in english...the fill like a size 9 or 10...?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5297
05-27-2009 11:18 AM ET (US)
I had a pair of Nocona sea turtle boots that I sold a few years ago for $150, and it took awhile to get that. I've seen a pair of Montana sea turtles size 8 1/2, on Craigs List for the past month, I think the price for those have been lowered to $300. They were initially listed much higher.
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5298
05-27-2009 11:47 AM ET (US)
ya,the prices are all over the scale..I have only seen a few pair for sale on the web,but the price ranges from $300 to $1500.I did see one pair sell for $550 but they was alot darker than mine,they almost looked purple.
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5299
05-27-2009 01:29 PM ET (US)

Newest Pablo Jass Boot
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5300
05-27-2009 01:37 PM ET (US)
Nice color combo.
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5301
05-27-2009 03:14 PM ET (US)
I found a size conversion chart for my Sea Turtle boots.It says 28 1/2 is USA size 11 1/2...but the only country that shows the size 28 is Japan.?? Any ideas on this subject ? Where they made in Japan,or did the Vaquero boot company plan on ex-porting them too japan?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5302
05-27-2009 03:27 PM ET (US)
Just an educated guess, but I think they were made in Mexico. There were a lot of sea turtle boots hecho en mexico. The chart that I googled says a 28 in mens is a 9 to 9 1/2 USA, a 29 is a 10 to 10 1/2 USA.

http://www.shiekhshoes.com/store/t-size_chart.aspx
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5303
05-27-2009 03:54 PM ET (US)
I think your chart is right.I was stumped there wondering what a pair of size 11 was doing in a closet full of 9 1/2 and 10's..LOL.thanks for your help.I been looking at other Turtle boots for sale on the web,and I'm starting to think some of these peoples asking price is just wishful thinking.What would you say is a fair price for them ?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5304
05-27-2009 04:12 PM ET (US)
Yep, there is a difference between the asking price and the actual sales price. I would say in the range of $100-$300.00. You could get more, especially if you were willing to wait. If you are trying to sell them soon you may want the low end.
orooroPerson was signed in when posted  5305
05-27-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)

Thanks,I'm not in a hurry to sell them..I wished they fit me
B.S.BOOTSPerson was signed in when posted  5306
05-27-2009 07:00 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 05-27-2009 07:01 PM
B.S.BOOTSPerson was signed in when posted  5307
05-27-2009 07:03 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-27-2009 07:04 PM

Topstitch, I actualy got to see Pablo making Your Boots when I went to Pick up My Latest Pair. Your's sure turned out Good. I love the Natural Heel and Sole. Here is my Latest from Pablo. Rough-out Pig
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5308
05-28-2009 08:45 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-28-2009 04:09 PM
B.S.Boots, I'm not the actual owner of the boots. I was the one who just uploaded the picture. But, the boots did turn out great. Yours look great also.
Larry HarlanPerson was signed in when posted  5309
06-11-2009 01:16 PM ET (US)
I have a pr of boots a man gave me and am trying to find out about the manufacturer and possibly when they were made. They are made of Kangaroo on both the vamp and top, have a medium round toe and I believe them to be over 20 years old, hardly worn. Inside on the heel pad is the insignia 7L
with a horse head picture and below that 7Leguas. These boots are lined with deer skin and have the 3-point configuration in the center front, as per Tony Lama boots did for so many years, where the vamp and top come together. Anyone have any info on 7Leguas? Also stamped inside is "Made in Mexico w/ numbers 110005 703 and they are 10 1/2D in size.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5310
06-11-2009 04:01 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-11-2009 04:15 PM
Not familiar with that brand. Sometimes I think there are more boot manufacturers in Mexico then sand grains on the beach. I Googled the name, nothing definate came up except some stores that may carry the boots, at least they carry El 7 Leguas boots. You may try that too, perhaps give the store a call.
Larry HarlanPerson was signed in when posted  5311
06-12-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)
Thanks. I'll look around some more, but like you, I haven't found much on this. You're prob. right on the number of bootmakers in Mexico. They're like Santa Claus, they're everywhere! If we could only get down that way, where it's safe, we could get a good pr. of well-made, made-by-hand boots at a reasonable price. Thanks, again. L
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5312
06-12-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)
Most of the stuff I've seen from Mexico lately is junk (IMHO). There are some fairly good companies, and they distribute in the US (Montana, Liberty, Old Gringo).

A former co-worker went to Matamoras several years ago a ordered a pair of made-to-measure handmade boots non-exotic skin for $75. When he received them, they were'nt even close to fitting him. It was $75 wasted. My advise to anyone who believes they can get a good pair of boots in Mexico is to be prepared for a dissapointment. It may not happen all the time.

If you want something with quality, it is best to stick in the USA and with a USA made boot.
Larry HarlanPerson was signed in when posted  5313
06-13-2009 10:37 AM ET (US)
I would agree--and---one MUST KNOW their vendor, in this case, bootmaker.
I was (am) just trying to find out about this old pr. of boots my neighbor gave me. As I stated, they are hardly worn as they apparently did not fit him very well, BUT!, at that time he took a 10 1/2D and these are 10D. I have a terrific boot repair man west of town where I live up here in Western Oklahoma. He is going to take these 2-pr of boots (the other is an old pr. of Nocona's made IN Nocona, Tx., when they were still there before 1998 when they went to Ft. Worth and hookedup with the rest of the family of Justin / Tony Lama) and relast them to my 8 1/2D foot and totally reamke them for me even redoing the toe shapes, heels, and completely remake them into new boots my size. His name is J.C. Clayborn and does work for Justin/Tony Lama/Nocona, many western wear stores, etc.
--and has people in Chicago, New York and other places who won't let anyone but him touch their boots. So I AM fortunate to be close to such a boot rebuilder, and think he could make a pr. of "made-by-hand" boots if a person could talk him into it and offered enough money. Last summer he made himself a pr of black Caimen belly aligator's that look exactly like the Lucheese 125th anniv editions with the small, square French toe, etc. I saw him last fall with them on and thot they were a pr of Lucheese's until he shared with me that he took the time in the summer, his slow time, to make himself a pr. of boots. Best regards. L
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5314
06-30-2009 09:17 AM ET (US)
Prescott Bootmaker wins blue ribbon in international competition

Prescott custom bootmaker Paul Krause joined hundreds of leather crafters and saddle-makers in Sheridan, Wyoming, in mid-May for the 16th annual Rocky Mountain Leather Trade Show. Krause appreciates the first prize his handmade, bison-themed cowboy boots brought him – but that's not all he appreciates.

"I think the reason I like to participate in competitions is, it helps me 'be all that I can be,' to borrow the phrase," Krause reports. Since there are no "masters," in the old sense, modern bootmakers gather to learn from each other. And the judges provide the artisans with comment sheets, which Krause finds useful. "Respect from my peers drives me to perfect new refinements," he says. His customers benefit, Krause adds, because "it helps me raise the level of my construction details and artistic efforts."

The Leather Crafters and Saddlers Journal hosts the Rocky Mountain Leather Trade Show, and Krause's prize also wins him a spot in a photo feature on the show in the Journal's July/August issue. Within the show, Krause exhibited in the 8th Annual World Leather Debut's gallery of custom-made leather items by global artisans.

The winning pair of boots, which Krause crafted for a customer in Prescott, feature vamps of ostrich leather and tops of French calf. The customer brought the design elements to Krause, who worked the ideas into a finished creation he has named "Big Medicine." The boots feature a pattern evoking buffalo hoofprints along the collars and, on the front panels, a tooled leather petroglyph featuring a white buffalo. Appliqued to the back panels is a leather medicine wheel complete with leather eagle feathers. This custom design collaboration is Krause's standard procedure, as is the careful, multi-stage fitting process.

"Custom boots provide support like no other style of footwear – that's one of their wonderful features," says Krause.

Cowboy boots have long been an icon of the Western way of life, of rugged independence. Even while functioning as a basic workaday item, they've served as a canvas for individual expression. But Krause insists on proper fit. "Your boots can last you 25 or 30 years," he says, "and that's a great value, if the fit is right." Boots must offer proper support for the feet, and that, Krause explains, is why he sees value in offering custom boots with a bespoke fit.

Krause, who crafts other forms of leather art as well as boots, produces his creations in his home workshop. He meets customers by appointment in his fitting studio in Prescott's Old Firehouse Plaza just off Whiskey Row.

Leather artist Paul Krause dedicates himself to "bringing something new into the world" and ensuring his clients' satisfaction.

For more information, please visit his website at www.leatherimages.com.

http://readitnews.com/prescott-arizona-new...ational-competition-
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5315
06-30-2009 09:18 AM ET (US)

Boots by Paul Krause
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5316
06-30-2009 09:20 AM ET (US)
Man has business nailed as boot maker
Boot maker follows in father's steps
By CINDY Kahler THOMAS Special to the Times Record News

Sunday, June 21, 2009

WICHITA FALLS — The Burk Boot Shop is a really good fit for this Wichita County town.

The shop, owned by Armando and Patricia Dominguez, is a place where customers can get their shoes repaired, buy a gift, have custom-boots made or just stop by for a chat to get to know the couple. After all, they have a story to tell. Both are originally from Mexico.

“In October of 1967, my father moved us form Matamoros, Mexico, to Burkburnett and opened the Burk Shoe Repair,” Armando said.

The family of five lived in a one-room apartment that was the back of the shop.

“After a year, my mom threatened my father, and they bought a house,” he said.

But moving to the house didn’t keep Armando out of the shop.

“I grew up in this shop. I started out sweeping the floors and hand stitching penny loafers. I caught on pretty fast,” he said. “I must have sewn hundreds of penny loafers.”

By the time he graduated high school, he thought that repairing shoes was the last thing he wanted to do, so he took a job that involved labor, “but it didn’t last but a couple of months.” He even went to Midwestern State University for a while, but felt he didn’t fit in.

“But I knew how to repair shoes, so I took a job in Wichita Falls. I was making more money there. He paid me more than my dad did, and I was making enough money to buy a car,” he said.

Armando met his future wife in 1988 in Mexico at his cousin’s wedding; and after two years of long-distance dating, they married. History repeated itself as the honeymooners lived in a large apartment attached to their shoe repair business in Wichita Falls.

“We lived there one year, and I got pregnant, so we moved into a house,” Patricia said, “The fumes from the glue were strong and not good for a pregnant woman.”

“Eventually we got rid of that shop, and we moved to Burk,” Armando said.

Armando’s father turned over the shop to his only son, but his father still made the custom boots. However, after the birth of Armando’s second child, his father told him that he needed to make more money, so lessons began on how to make those boots.

Armando’s boots are much fancier than his father’s boots, but he is grateful for the skills passed down to him and is making good use of them.

With the downturn of the economy, his boot-making business has slowed some, but that makes it that much easier for customers to get their boots more quickly. Now there is no longer an 18-month wait to get a pair. According to Armando, there is only a five-month wait.

Life for Patricia was hard in America. She spoke almost no English, and she found it very difficult to communicate with the world around her. One day her son’s teacher called. When she got to the school, she asked him why he had an “accident” and he told her that he didn’t know how to say “will you help me unbuckle my belt” in English.

“So I came home and said, ‘That’s it. I have to learn how to speak English,’” Patricia said.

After years of lessons, she still felt embarrassed when trying to speak English because of her pronunciation. Then she took a job at a restaurant.

“The first two days I had diarrhea because I was so nervous, but within two weeks I was talking to the customers with no problem at all,” Patricia said. “My boss had to tell me to quit talking so much.”

Now Patricia is on the Telemundo television station telling Spanish-speaking people about English lessons in Burkburnett. Her segment airs from 5 to 10 every Monday in June.

“I tell them about the time and place, and what we do and how we do it,” she said. “I am so passionate about it. It is so important to me because I lived through not being able to communicate. I had to rely on others to go with me to the doctor, or the store, or anywhere I needed to ask questions or answer questions. I didn’t like that feeling.”

The lessons are at Central Baptist Church. Transportation is provided, as well as child care.

“So now there is no excuse not to learn English, but you have to want it to do it,” she said.

Things have changed for Patricia. Now she helps translate for others and even offers her help in tutoring.

She has a new retail section of the shop, thanks to the Burkburnett Development Corporation. The corporation is a group of business owners that are promoting businesses in Burkburnett.

With the downturn in the economy, large boot-makers were trying to lure Armando away from Burkburnett. The corporation got wind of it and set their sights on keeping the boot shop in Burkburnett.

“Kelly Bolin, director of the corporation, kept asking me to go to a small business boot camp in Colorado,” Patricia said. “I was worried that my English wasn’t good enough, but she said ‘I’m not going to leave you alone until you tell me you are coming,’ so I told her I would come.”

Patricia learned a lot at the camp and is applying it to their store. The corporation even gave the couple money and physical help to get their store ready for a retail crowd. Now it is decorated in a rustic Western theme and sells shirts, purses, crosses, shoes, decorative signs and much more. And Armando and Patricia are planning to open a Web site to expand their boot-making business.

She said that every third Friday is Downtown Madness. The businesses stay open until 8 p.m. and have activities to draw in customers. The boot shop has had salsa dancing and snacks and drinks. The downtown area has had Easter egg hunts, live entertainment, and even trick or treating.

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2009/j...as-business-nailed/
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5317
07-02-2009 03:25 PM ET (US)

"Pee Wee" Barnwell boots on Ebay Item 110409372293
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5318
07-02-2009 03:28 PM ET (US)

Neat July 4th boots, by Rusty Franklin - Ebay 160345942435
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5319
07-09-2009 05:08 PM ET (US)
Joe Bowman passed away a few days ago. Several of his boots, made at the Bowman and DeGeorge Shop in Houston, were in Tyler Beard's second book "Art of the Boot," in fact, one was on the cover.

Here is his web-site, check out the links for several photos of his work, and with other western celebraties.

http://www.joebowman.com/index.html
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5320
07-25-2009 06:54 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 07-25-2009 06:54 PM
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5321
07-25-2009 10:43 PM ET (US)

Olsen Stelzer boots
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5322
07-26-2009 06:29 PM ET (US)

Clarence Garrison boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5323
08-03-2009 09:35 PM ET (US)

Clarkson's Boots, collection of CBBN (thanks VC!)
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5324
08-03-2009 09:37 PM ET (US)

Dave Little Boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5325
08-03-2009 09:39 PM ET (US)

Franks Boots Shop, collection of CBBN (thanks VC)
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5326
08-03-2009 09:42 PM ET (US)

Harold Norris Boots, collection of CBBN.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5327
08-03-2009 09:43 PM ET (US)

Model Boot Shop, collection of CBBN (thanks VC)
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5328
08-03-2009 09:46 PM ET (US)

A J Malouff Boots, collection of CBBN
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5329
08-06-2009 10:43 PM ET (US)
Some great looking footwear by some of Texas' finest bootmakers! Thanks for sharing Mark. I like the tops on those Dave Little boots.....
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5330
08-06-2009 11:33 PM ET (US)

'Squash Blossom' Boots by ? Rios ?
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5331
08-06-2009 11:35 PM ET (US)

same
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5332
08-06-2009 11:36 PM ET (US)

Mo'
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5333
08-07-2009 02:29 AM ET (US)
Yahooooooooooooooo
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5334
08-07-2009 10:44 AM ET (US)
A. Wilkinson, those are incredible boots. I believe they are Rios, but not 100% sure.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5335
08-07-2009 11:20 AM ET (US)

Unknown Bootmaker, c. 1940's. Bartlesville, OK. collection of LDPNDP
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5336
08-07-2009 11:22 AM ET (US)

c. 1940's. Bartlesville, OK. collection of LDPNDP
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5337
08-08-2009 07:16 AM ET (US)
Wow!!!!
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5338
08-09-2009 04:41 AM ET (US)
What great boots. Those last two pair are really sharp. I think I'd wear one of each and just call it a day.
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5339
09-04-2009 08:46 PM ET (US)

1990's Rios
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5340
09-04-2009 08:49 PM ET (US)
Meant to include this with the image below.

Came across these Rios boots and I'm interested in buying them. Seller claims they were $600 new. He's asking $250.

Info. I got after contacting Rios directly is:
"They were made in 6/1992. They are Tan Remuda Reverse with a Mink Blue top."

Does the pricing sound correct for these? Thanks!
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5341
09-05-2009 09:37 AM ET (US)
If you are going to wear them and you like them, then they are worth the price, it's that simple.

Rios makes a nice boot, and those do not look particularly worn, and a new boot that is not as well made as those Rios will set you back the same or more.

If, on the other hand the boots do not fit, or you do not like them, can you afford to sit on them, or take a loss in reselling them? I don't think the cash for clunkers program extends to cowboy boots . . . that's pretty much my thinking on buying used boots.
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5342
09-05-2009 06:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-05-2009 06:27 PM
Thanks for the reply emmett.

Wearing them isn't an issue as I wear boots just about everyday. Plus, I like a good pair of roughouts.

And yes, new boots can cost as much and certainly aren't as well made. I have a recent pair of Lucchese 1883 Mad Dog's that were $250. Not bad boots, but not sure they were worth that price.

I currently have 23 pairs of boots in my collection. A combination of high-end and low-end - from Liberty, Old Gringo, Lucchese Classic, on down to some Acme's that I use for horseback riding.

I would probably try to sell a couple pairs of my mid-range boots I don't wear that much to help offset the cost of these Rios.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5343
09-12-2009 10:14 PM ET (US)

Jim Covington boots, made for Herb
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5344
09-12-2009 10:15 PM ET (US)

Jim Covington boots, Gardner MA
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5345
09-12-2009 10:19 PM ET (US)
Jim Covington is a bootmaker in Gardner MA. A customer of his sent these photos for me to post. They are white rhino vamps, collars.
Lloyd WiebePerson was signed in when posted  5346
09-15-2009 02:18 PM ET (US)
Love the heel counters!
PhillyTexanPerson was signed in when posted  5347
09-16-2009 02:17 PM ET (US)
If those rhino skins were brought into the US after 1992, they are illegal. There is no legal source of rhino since there are no government culls. Rhino is both endangered AND protected. Elephant is just endangered, but not protected and all the elephant skins brought in commercially are from government culls.
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5348
09-16-2009 02:48 PM ET (US)
PhillyTexan, I see a lot of rhino boots offered by various makers on the market today, I don't think they all are made from hides bought before 1992... I might be wrong but there should be a legal source... Or you mean private importing of those hides?
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5349
09-16-2009 03:35 PM ET (US)
PhillyTexan,
I would like to see more on this because it is probably allowed for legally taken Rhinos to be tanned into leather for the hunter...That would have nothing to do with a ban on commercial tanning....TR
CarrlynPerson was signed in when posted  5350
09-16-2009 04:54 PM ET (US)
Tex is right. We made a pair for a customer that was a gift from a friend of his. The man hunted it, had it tanned and brought it into the country. We checked, and because he had all the correct paperwork we made the boots. This was back in 97. We also made copies of the paperwork for our records.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5351
09-17-2009 01:03 PM ET (US)
Carrlyn,
On google there are mentionings of Rhino being allowed for hunts in several places currently. The hides have been trickling in from customers that want their own hides used for boots for several years. I doubt seriously that I will make any boots from it though because it is too tough to work in all of the hides I have heard of or seen...TR
CarrlynPerson was signed in when posted  5352
09-17-2009 02:39 PM ET (US)
Lee said that it wasn't much different than working with elephant. I looked to see if I had a picture of the boots we made, but I didn't. It's the only time we've worked with it.
PhillyTexanPerson was signed in when posted  5353
09-18-2009 12:02 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-18-2009 12:03 PM
According to the CITES source book, only southern white rhino trophies from South Africa may be imported legally into the US. All other rhino products from anywhere else are prohibited. All commercial importation is illegal. Here is the source, page 30, the section on "Trade Protection":

http://books.google.com/books?id=oS79xZPLW...=onepage&q=&f=false
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5354
09-18-2009 12:51 PM ET (US)
PhillyTexan,

No one here has been talking about commercial importing or buying commercial skins...All that are allowed are the privatlely taken rhinos and their trophy skins. These are all that have been mentioned by bootmakers here...TR
PhillyTexanPerson was signed in when posted  5355
09-18-2009 01:45 PM ET (US)
Tex,
What started this discussion was the photo of the boots with no mention of the source or provenance of the rhino skins. Subsequent posts discussed "trophy" rhino and I provided the CITES section that does allow white rhino from South Africa to come in for non-commercial use. It was informative to me that any rhino product is still allowed in, but only under specific and narrow rules.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5356
09-22-2009 08:24 AM ET (US)

Medina Boots, (not from the collection of CBBN)
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5357
09-22-2009 08:26 AM ET (US)
Mario (?) Medina worked at the Ray Jones shop and has a shop of his own in Gatesville (?) TX. I saw these at a shop in for repair. They are not as yellow as pictured. I was impressed with the quality of these boots. If anyone has any info on Medina, I'd appreciate it.
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5358
09-22-2009 10:11 AM ET (US)
Cowboybootnut, Mario Medina did not work for Ray Jones. His Father did.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5359
09-22-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)
Topstitch,

Thanks for that clarification. Is his father still alive?
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5360
09-22-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)

Latest from Jass Boot shop (Pablo)
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5361
09-22-2009 10:20 AM ET (US)
Cowboybootnut, Yes I believe he has a small shop in Lampasas.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5362
09-22-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)
Topstitch,

Can you email me at bronbo@aol.com? I'd like to get some info from both Medinas. Thanks in advance.

CBBN
B.S.BOOTSPerson was signed in when posted  5363
09-22-2009 06:35 PM ET (US)
Topstitch,

Love the Boots, Esp. the Color Matched Pulls and the Initials.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5364
09-29-2009 11:11 AM ET (US)

Sent by the fine people at James Leddy Boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5365
09-29-2009 11:12 AM ET (US)

James Leddy Boots, Abilene TX.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5366
09-29-2009 11:14 AM ET (US)

Great tops from James Leddy Boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5367
09-29-2009 11:18 AM ET (US)
Unfortunately none of these boots are mine (darn it!).
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5368
09-29-2009 11:30 PM ET (US)
I recently won these custom made elephant hide boots on Ebay. No maker's name written or stamped in the tops. They look well made and have an interesting placement of the boot pulls off center and a distinctive design to the tongue. I am uploading several pictures. Can anyone ID the bootmaker?? Thanks! Steve
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5369
09-29-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)
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turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5370
09-29-2009 11:39 PM ET (US)

Can you ID the maker ?
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5371
09-29-2009 11:40 PM ET (US)

Can you ID the maker ?
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5372
09-29-2009 11:42 PM ET (US)

Can you ID the maker ?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5373
09-30-2009 11:16 AM ET (US)
turpin,

They are interesting boots, but I can't ID the maker. They look like they are from somewhere in Oklahoma, but the boot pulls throw me. The stitch pattern reminds me of a factory-style stitch pattern.
TimsBootsPerson was signed in when posted  5374
10-01-2009 10:45 AM ET (US)
Can anyone give me the pros and cons of the 3/4 welt verses full welt?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5375
10-01-2009 11:27 AM ET (US)
Full welt equals too much like ropers.
Ropers equal tall topped shoes.
Ropers do not equal cowboy boots.

I say this with some jest..........some.

I think a lot has to do with full welt boots usually do not have pegs, which are suppose to secure the shank better. However, some bootmakers like Blucher Boots use full welt and pegs. I like the way boots look on the bottom when a custom bootmaker smooths out the pegging and makes it shine.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5376
10-01-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)

Like this........you can almost shave you face with these!
emmettPerson was signed in when posted  5377
10-01-2009 11:38 AM ET (US)
CBBN looks like you've been wearing these on a carpet at home to keep them polished. Time to take them outside for a walk. "Free the Boots!"
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5378
10-01-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)
Those aren't mine, but I do wear 99% of my boots off the carpet. These boots were made by Brian Thomas in Abilene, who does great finish work. Tex Robin, James Leddy, Lee Miller and others do great finishing too.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5379
10-01-2009 12:49 PM ET (US)
TimsBoots,

Tim 3/4 welts are of no advantage except to the factory or company that uses an inseaming machine. It saves time for the factory and is a pain in the neck for the shop that does the inseam by hand. My opinion it makes the boots look factory made. If you are a maker that does them that way, it is your option to do so. I don't do them that way....TR
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5380
10-02-2009 02:10 AM ET (US)
This brings up an interesting discussion point — 3/4 welt vs. full welt and pegs vs. no pegs.

It used to be 3/4 welts with pegs on boots were standard from the Big 3. Now, most of their boots are full welt with no pegs. I've been under the impression that this was a time/cost saving measure they adopted. More work can be done by machine – meaning they can produce boots faster and cheaper and increase their profit margin.

Lucchese Classics, Liberty, Old Gringo still go the 3/4 welt with pegs route. This is my preference and I like the finished look when done this way.

It's probably purely subjective, but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of people like Tex and others on this.

Thanks!


Bret
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5381
10-02-2009 06:49 AM ET (US)
Hiredgun,
I have already given my thoughts on it in post 5379. 1/2 welts and pegged shanks is the preferred way of making shop made boots...TR
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5382
10-03-2009 02:49 AM ET (US)
I think there is just something comforting about things like good dogs, Mom, the American Flag, cash, shady ladies, Smith & Wesson, and pegged cowboy boots.
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5383
10-04-2009 06:21 AM ET (US)
Tex,
Thanks for the reply. You and I are on the same page.

I think what initially threw me off was in post 5379 you had said a 3/4 welt is no advantage except to the factories doing work by machine.

Sounds like what some of us are calling a "3/4 welt" you actually call it a 1/2 welt — and what we're calling "full-welt", you would define as 3/4 welt.

Does that sound correct?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5384
10-04-2009 07:48 PM ET (US)

Tex Robin Boots, Abilene TX, collection of CBBN
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5385
10-04-2009 11:20 PM ET (US)
I had a collection of over 75 different 'Eagle' designs and they don't get any better than Tex's version !! Thanks for sharing....
ScooterPerson was signed in when posted  5386
10-05-2009 01:40 AM ET (US)
Those are just incredibly beautiful boots. I cannot imagine a better color combination or design.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5387
10-05-2009 09:42 AM ET (US)
They are the most beautiful boots that I've ever seen (perhaps I am a little biased since they are mine), and the most beautiful boots that I will ever have.

They tied for first place in the Master's catagory at the Boot and Saddlemaker's Round Up in Wichita Falls, TX this past weekend. I personally thought they were the best there.
A. WilkinsonPerson was signed in when posted  5388
10-05-2009 10:04 AM ET (US)
CONGRATULATIONS TEX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the PROUND OWNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5389
10-05-2009 12:56 PM ET (US)

Justin Walker's red bullhide boots. Winner of the Journeyman class 2009
rev199Person was signed in when posted  5390
10-05-2009 03:05 PM ET (US)
The Eagle boots by Mr. Robin are beautiful!!
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5391
10-06-2009 12:46 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-06-2009 12:51 AM
Truly amazing Eagle boots. Superb work by Mr. Robin!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5392
10-06-2009 11:43 AM ET (US)
I saw the boots (#5389) that Justin made in person and I can say that he has the talent to be a very good bootmaker. His stitching is super!
westernexecutivePerson was signed in when posted  5393
10-13-2009 05:45 PM ET (US)

Dwight Yoakam Personal Autographed Rios of Merceds Cowboy Boots
westernexecutivePerson was signed in when posted  5394
10-13-2009 07:23 PM ET (US)
Dwight Yoakam's personal autographed boots are being sold on Ebay auction number 130337163954
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5395
10-15-2009 08:43 AM ET (US)
I think I could handle the toe, I think I could handle the heels. I don't think I can handle the tight jeans anymore.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5396
10-15-2009 09:45 AM ET (US)
Those heels have no practical purpose at all. They make you walk on the back of the slanted part and are not really high heels. They are no more than a 1 1/2 inch tall heel. I never put more than a 45 degree angle and mostly about 50 degrees so you still walk on the bottom of the heels...TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5397
10-15-2009 11:46 PM ET (US)

Vintage Dennis Cottle Boots, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5398
10-21-2009 05:19 PM ET (US)
All,

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turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5399
10-23-2009 01:38 PM ET (US)

Custom Alligator Boots with tooled tops by "Back At The Ranch"
turpinPerson was signed in when posted  5400
10-23-2009 01:42 PM ET (US)
I'm thinning out my collection of vintage and custom boots of ones that don't fit me. This is a great custom Alligator pair with nice tooled leather tops by "Back At The Ranch" in Santa Fe, N.M. Size 9-9.5D. Ends Sunday night 10/25. Click on the link to see eBay listing with more pics, description and sizing info. Thanks, Steve
http://shop.ebay.com/turpin/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5401
10-23-2009 01:55 PM ET (US)
Turpin,
These boots weren't made at Back at the Ranch. They were probably made by Kimmel boots in Comanche, Tx and sold by Back at the Ranch...TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5402
10-23-2009 02:37 PM ET (US)
Liberty also makes/made boots for Back at the Ranch.

However, recently they have mentioned on their web page their own factory in El Paso called Boots From The Ranch.
TimsbootsPerson was signed in when posted  5403
10-24-2009 12:32 AM ET (US)
Back at the Ranch took over the old Arditti business. The Arditti name was sold to a new outfit South West Custom Boots. Both make boots in El Paso
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5404
10-24-2009 04:51 PM ET (US)
turpin,
I looked closer at the boots, "Liberty" , and the "Back at the Ranch" page and these boots have Kimmel's tongue on them..It does appear that Back at the Ranch is presently only selling Liberty boots though...TR
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5405
10-24-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
turpin,
Now I am really confused...I went back and looked really close and Liberty ia now making these boots with the exact tongue pattern that Kimmel uses so all bets are out the window...You can call them whatever you want...TR
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5406
10-25-2009 12:34 AM ET (US)
Back at the Ranch used to list Liberty, Rocketbuster and their own line on their site. Now it's down to just Liberty and the Back at the Ranch line.

From what I understand, Back at the Ranch just carries stock Liberty boots. Nothing made exclusively for them. Liberty boots are still made in Mexico as far as I know.
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5407
10-25-2009 06:37 AM ET (US)
Tex,
I took a look at the Arditti web site and they sell the Tyler Beard style boots, rough out with elephant counter, originally made by Kimmel... They also say that these boots were made for Back at the Ranch, but a direct buy would cost exactly the half...
Regards...
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5408
10-25-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)
Peter B,
I went to the Arditti page to have a look. You are right it looks like the so-called Tyler line of boots that were made by Kimmel are now just just imported copies of the Jones style he was making for Back at the ranch...TR
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5409
10-26-2009 02:12 PM ET (US)

Boots from Back at the Ranch website
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5410
10-26-2009 02:14 PM ET (US)
This Toe Flower and stitch design on this boot from back at the ranch is a
copy of a Pablo Jass boot.
Topstitch79Person was signed in when posted  5411
10-26-2009 02:18 PM ET (US)

The stitch design on the counter was copied also.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5412
10-26-2009 02:38 PM ET (US)
Topstitch79,
FYI this toe flower and vamp stitch pattern was copied from Ray Jones by Pablo Jass and several others and is free game because toe flowers and patterns are not copyrighted. I personally don't copy them because I don't see the glamour of those patterns. Not a reflection on Jones, Jass boots or anyone that copies them...TR
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5413
10-28-2009 04:06 PM ET (US)

I don't care for her music (it ain't country!) but she does wear flashy boots.
tex robinPerson was signed in when posted  5414
10-28-2009 11:38 PM ET (US)
I am not a fan of hers either but I looked up one of her videos and she is just a country as Kenney Chesney. They sound about the same to me...TR
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5415
10-29-2009 01:33 AM ET (US)

For some real country music, check out Heather Myles.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5416
11-04-2009 09:57 PM ET (US)

Vintage Clifford Leddy Boots, Abilene TX, collection of CBBN
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5417
11-04-2009 10:10 PM ET (US)
Clifford Leddy was one of M L Leddy's brothers. He moved to Abilene TX and opened a shop. His nephew, the legendary James Leddy, worked with Clifford, and eventually took over the shop in 1965.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5418
11-04-2009 10:11 PM ET (US)

Unknown vintage boots, collection CBBN.
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5419
11-08-2009 11:25 AM ET (US)

I second the Heather Myles recommendation!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5420
11-19-2009 04:28 PM ET (US)

I'm glad someone was able to afford the Lucchese 125th Anniversary boots.
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5421
11-20-2009 11:21 PM ET (US)

Texas Traditions, black softy buffalo, varigated stitching, collection of CBBN
Mark from PlanoPerson was signed in when posted  5422
11-21-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Very nice Mark!
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5423
11-21-2009 04:55 PM ET (US)
As always with Texas Traditions!!! Amazing boots!!!!!!
If I remember right, you should already have the very same great style in brown.

Peter
Peter BPerson was signed in when posted  5424
11-21-2009 05:06 PM ET (US)
Just finished to read and watch the specials about Lisa Sorrell... Great story, amazing boots and a really wonderful shop!!!
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5425
11-21-2009 05:49 PM ET (US)
Peter B, yes you are right, in chocolate calf, same pattern, different varigated thread. They are similar to a pair featured in the Cowboy Boot book.
malonebashPerson was signed in when posted  5426
11-23-2009 12:58 AM ET (US)
I have been away from this site for a few years,in actuality I forgot where it was,but I thought I would share the following. I recently bought a pair of brown Lucchese Classics at a reputable shoe companies warehouse sale. This company supplies/imports shoes to high end stores like Saks Fifth Avenue. I looked in the boot saw Lucchese Classics tried them on and ran to the cashier and paid the price which was just over a hundred bucks. When I got home I looked at the soles and saw that they were stitched all around no lemon pegs,no pegs at all. The usual little folded note was attached to the boot extolling the qualities like lemon pegs. This was a final sale so I could not take them back. I have bought classics from this place before and they looked like classics. Has Lucchese started putting out cheap boots but still calling them Classics. The skins were of the usual top quality but the bottoms, I hate looking at them. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
CowboybootnutPerson was signed in when posted  5427
11-23-2009 06:53 AM ET (US)
Sounds like you purchased the Lucchese 1883 line of boots, which is their lower-end boot. Lucchese Classics, Lucchese 2000, and Lucchese 1883 have ink stamps on the inside of each boot. I believe they have a Lucchese Cowboy/Cowgirl line too. Or you could have bought Lucchese Classics ropers(?).

Can you post a picture?
hiredgunPerson was signed in when posted  5428
11-24-2009 02:14 AM ET (US)
Definitely sounds like a pair of Lucchese 1883's. But as CBBN said, they should be stamped letting you know which Lucchese version they are. Pictures would be great.
TimsbootsPerson was signed in when posted  5429
11-24-2009 09:24 AM ET (US)
A couple of interesting articles in the Nov 15th El Paso TImes

The art of the boot: Stallion Boots designer puts his stamp on Western icon
By Victor R. Martinez / El Paso Times

It's not unusual to see high-profile fashion designers from Dolce & Gabbana, Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Celine of Paris and Christian Dior streaming into Pedro Muņoz Jr.'s El Paso shop looking for Western inspiration.

After all, the iconic designer of Western boots and owner of Stallion Boot & Belt Co. in South-Central El Paso has been designing boots that have been shown on the runways of Paris, Milan and New York for close to 30 years.

What is surprising is how nonchalant Muņoz is about being the boot-maker to the stars. He is by no means starstruck.

"For me, every customer is a celebrity," Muņoz said. "I don't think who you make the boots for makes you a good boot-maker. All our customers are important. When I die, I don't want people to say that I made boots for so and so or so and so. All people are great. All people have their own uniqueness, and if somebody is willing to spend money on a product that I make, to me that makes them a celebrity in my book."

For the record, Muņoz has designed boots for Bob Dylan, Madonna, Robert Plant, Ashley Judd and Tom Cruise.

Stallion Boots, all designed by the 52-year-old Muņoz, can be found in exclusive boutiques in 17 locations in seven states, including Boot Star locations in West Hollywood and Las Vegas and Bergdorf Goodman in New York.

The custom-designed, handcrafted boots can also be purchased in Canada, Europe and Asia in fine shops such as Colette in Paris and Trois Pommes in St. Moritz and Zurich.

"I
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heard about Stallion boots from a couple of people who own a pair in Austin," said Austinite Dena Stoner, who was recently touring Stallion Boots Co. "We were up in Santa Fe camping and went to the square to try on boots, and there is place called Boots & Boogie there. We were trying on various boots, oohing and ahhing about the intricate designs, and the gentleman there said the absolute greatest boot is Stallion.

"I tried on a pair and thought, 'Oh, my God,' it fit like glove,' " she said. "The gentleman said Stallion Boots are made with the finest workmanship, and I asked where are they made and he said, 'El Paso, of course, where all the greatest boots are made.' "

Stoner said she owned about 10 pairs of boots, but not one designed by Muņoz.

"It's an inspirational thing; one day I'll buy a pair of Stallions," Stoner said. "We've seen some wonderful boots all around town. El Paso is the boot capital of world."

It was with humble beginnings that Muņoz began his love affair with cowboy boots.

"As a young man, I was brought up on a ranch in Chihuahua," Muņoz recollects fondly. "My grandfather took me to one of those general stores in Zaragoza, Mexico, that had everything you can imagine. He had taken me for the first time to the ranch when I was about 5 years old. He told me I couldn't go up to the ranch without a pair of cowboy boots. I wore those old boots until they wore down to nothing."

Muņoz smiled at the memory of his mother's reaction.

"My mother used to have me dressed up very nice all the time," he said. "She always tells her friends that when my grandfather brought me back from that trip, I had cow manure on my hair and my ears and I was a totally changed man. That's where my love of Western wear began."

Back then, the look of the cowboy boot was a rugged tough shoe. It had to be when working on the unforgiving open range.

But during the past 40 years or so, the cowboy boot has undergone a transformation. It has gone from practicality and functionality to an art form with no end to the variety of styles and colorful designs available.

Muņoz's venture into the fashion boot industry began in 1980 at the height of the "Urban Cowboy" craze.

"I was 23 years old studying chemistry and biology," he said. "There where two main industries in El Paso at the time -- the jean business and the boot business. After 'Urban Cowboy' came out, people wanted cowboy boots, so that's what I did."

Stallion Boot Co. was founded in 1980 by Muņoz and his two partners, Jose Gallegos and Plutarco Rodriguez. Muņoz is now the sole owner.

"We filled a very small niche," Muņoz said. "Not very many customers wanted designed, custom-made, high-end boots at the time. For me, that was that market. Otherwise, to manufacture in mass and to compete with the big guys would have been impossible. I would have ended up out of business. I just started to fill niches for people who wanted a better made boot."

Stallion Boot & Belt Co. has been featured in many international, national and regional magazines and newspapers over the years, including being named one of the top 25 Custom Bootmakers by Texas Monthly in 2002 and featured in the book "Art of the Boot" by the late Tyler Beard and the New York Times.

"I still remember the first pair of boots I designed," said Muņoz, who also collects all styles of boots. "It was a very plain boot, just a nice calfskin boot."

Muņoz said he has about 160 pairs of boots in his personal collection.

Many people are surprised when told Stallion Boots is headquartered in El Paso.

"Texas and fashion don't naturally find one another in the same sentence -- particularly when we're talking El Paso," the New York Times said.

Muņoz simply scoffs at comments such as these.

"The people here love their roots," he said. "El Paso used to be the boot capital of the world as far as boots manufactured and quality; now it's the boot capital for the quality. If you want a quality-made boot, this is the only place you'll find it because the boot-makers, some who have been with me for 30 years, care about their craft."

Muņoz is constantly surrounded by alligator, crocodile, horned-back alligator and crocodile, caiman, lizard, elephant, hippo, python, ostrich and stingray skins. But most importantly, he surrounds himself with family and friends.

"What El Paso has been able to provide for myself is an understanding of the biculturalism that exists here because I grew up that way so that was a big advantage to me," he said. "Now, when I travel throughout the world, I have no assumption about anybody else's cultural or beliefs or standards. If I am willing and wanting to do business or pleasure, I need to fit my way of thinking to that of the area of the people. Having that exposure of being here gave me that understanding."

And when people ask him what he is doing in El Paso?

"I just tell them, 'I'm making boots' -- it's that simple."

Darn good ones at that.

Victor R. Martinez may be reached at vmartinez@elpasotimes.com; 546-6128. This story originally appeared in Style magazine.



About Stallion Boots
# What: Stallion Boot and Belt Co.
# Owner: Longtime boot collector and designer Pedro Muņoz Jr. designs boots for sale through trunk shows and couture retailers such as Dolce & Gabbana and Christian Dior.
# Specializes in: Replicas of classic boots emphasizing starbursts and flame stitching, as well as buck stitching and lacing.
# Prices start at: $500.
# Turnaround time: Six to 12 weeks.
# Has made boots for: Madonna, Robert Plant, Bob Dylan, Ashley Judd and Tom Cruise.
TimsbootsPerson was signed in when posted  5430
11-24-2009 09:32 AM ET (US)
Rocketbuster takes fashion boot-ique approach
By Darren Meritz / El Paso Times

EL PASO -- Old World boot-making has collided with haute couture at Rocketbuster Boots, a boutique company in El Paso that's changed the focus of boot craftsmanship under the leadership of Nevena Christi, a former New York fashionista.

Part Western footwear, part kitsch and part high fashion, Rocketbuster Boots has carved its niche in El Paso as a retail manufacturer of tailor-made, one-of-a-kind boots that rely on cowboy fashion traditions.

But under Christi's influence, those boots have nuanced twists and borrow heavily from the latest styles, unusual fabrics and materials, and the whimsy of customers.

It's all a part of the vision of Christi, the unlikely owner of Rocketbuster who came to El Paso from New York more than a decade ago and is applying sophisticated design principles to classic Western craftsmanship.

"I'm different because I'm an artist," Christi said from her Downtown El Paso studio. "Every single step is done the old-fashioned way -- by hand."

In 1989, El Paso photographer Marty Snortum made a barroom deal to trade his 1953 Cadillac hearse for the upstart boot company, which was then owned by an Italian businessman longing to return to the old country. "So, (Snortum) woke up one morning, and he's got a boot company," Christi said.

Six years later, she stumbled across Rocketbuster when she was looking for six pairs of custom-made boots for a runway show. She went to Snortum, they fell in love, and she agreed to move to El Paso -- on the condition
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that he give her the boots studio.

For the past 12 years, Christi has worked to make Rocket buster the premier custom boots manufacturer in the United States. And she has the accolades to prove it.

Essential to making Rocketbuster a success, she said, has been transforming what was once a tired formula into a custom-built factory where each boot is made to fit a person's foot precisely and with whatever unique design the customer wants. Rocketbuster makes about 10 pairs of boots a week.

When Christi took over Rocketbuster, the company had been using conventional methods designed for mass production, such as the use of cardboard cutouts for boot designs.

When Christi came in, she applied her background in art -- she studied at the Parsons School o