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It's that time of year again when I have to write a report about all of the great things that we have accomplished in the Partnership. Would the coordinator please send a list of highlighted activities and accomplishments of your PDS? 5 to 10 is all I need. Much Thanks.

Vicky,

That sounds great. We will try to remind you next year.

Hello Ashe Advisory

I apologize for not having a schedule that accommodates the meeting times this year. Next fall/ this summer if you meet, I will be coming looking forward to hearing your
ideas and concerns.

Fond wishes

Vicky

Sorry it looks like we had a hacker sign in under Marc's name. I have deleted the messages.

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Hi Vicki, We missed you at the PDS meet and Greet. We had a password because a hs student was coming into the conversation uninvited. Hope will join us at the next meeting and chime into the site anytime you want to. There is no password now.

Hello

This is Vicky Grube App State art education who has
never made a meeting and cannot remember the password
so you see I am not much good.

Why do we have a password?

Vicky
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Hello

This is Vicky Grube App State art education who has
never made a meeting and cannot remember the password
so you see I am not much good.

Why do we have a password?

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Okay-password is off. I am so excited about this group at Ashe. We have some new people that are going to add a lot to the discussion and some exciting PDS activities going on. Becky, we missed you and hope you are doing well and Alex, we missed you also.

no password vote for me!

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password for the Quick topic site is "partner"

Please boomark this address and use it when you want to go to the site to post a message. I can take the password off if you wish.

FYI
Appalachian Arts Calendar



http://www.calendars.appstate.edu/cgi-bin/...Relative&Type=Block

Please send me your schedule for filming. Give several possible dates. I know if we don't get this together as soon as possible the semester will be over. Thanks

Jenny Risk is a new member of our PDS Advisory. Welcome Jenny

Rachel Shepard is a new member of our PDS Advisory Group. Welcome Rachel!

Meeting dates below
http://www.partnership.appstate.edu/calendar.htm

The regularly scheduled PDS meeting for January 22 will be replaced by the "Meet and Greet" at Broyhill Inn on January 30. Your official invitation from ASU is forthcoming. Hope to see you there!

Thanks Becky, I sent request form to Marc so you all can duplicate them and use them for next time.

Dec.18 Meeting Attendees:Becky Wells, Kathy Howell, Marc Gamble, Jenny Risk (30 min), Pat Morrison (15 min)

>We primarily discussed the need for ASU to get the placement letter and/or the request form to begin student teaching with the public school calendar out sooner to the student teachers (especially those working in PDS sites)most received the form at their permanant address away from campus and were unable to get signatures
>We planned for topics of discussion at the Jan. 2 meeting.
>Briefly discussed the posssibility of Marc attending the convention in Orlando.

>January 3 Required meeting of all cooperating teachers went very well. Only two were not in attendance. Coteaching strategies were well received. Teachers voiced concerns that their student teachers had not been in contact with them. We reminded them of the official start date of Jan.14 and encouraged them to make the first contact via email.

hey Becky,
i do have a student teacher, but for the last 5 weeks only. She is at elementary level until then. Pat
 
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From: QT - Becky Wells [1] Sent: Wed 1/9/2008 9:20 AM
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Linda, please understand that with the snow and starting a NEW semester with new courses and studens, things are just a LITTLE busy here.
1. Marc Gamble is out the rest of this week so I will be unable to get an answer from him re:conference until Monday. I will AGAIN approach Mr.Howell and Jenny Risk. Alex gave us a definite no.
2. Student teachers are not required to be here until Monday, January 14. We will need until the end of January to get them "ready" for filming. I will send your request for dates to those who areed to film before. Pat Morrison doesn't have a student teacher this semester; perhaps Alex Rollins will be willing to participate.
3.I will AGAIN approach possible new members. I am planning to allow the Wednesday, January 30 Meet and Greet at the Broyhill to substitute for our regularly scheduled meeting on Tuesday, January 22. I posted an email concerning this on the Sharing Q Topic.
I can email and I can ask, but I can't force answers. Sorry.

Please send film schedule. Thanks

We have someone to film classes this fall. He is a professional so we don't need to worry about girlfriends, drugs etc. Please send me a schedule for visits as soon as possible. He will also need to meet with you before the first visit to the school.

Did you all meet on the 18th?

Other questions

Alex Rollins –conference or no conference. I have seen both.
Phil Howell-conference or no conference. Need to know by the end of this week
Jenny Risk-new member-conference?
Leigh Howle-science-new member?
Phipps-technology-new member?

Pleasse let me know by the end of this week. Thanks

Sorry, I have a meeting with a candidate for Genele's position that afternoon

No big surprise...I was confused. I met with Linda McCalister and some folks from the Avery Focus group on Dec.4 to begin planning the "Meet and Greet" for January. If we could meet on Dec.18 as scheduled to discuss that meeting as well as the Jan.2 required meeting for all cooperating teachers, and we HAVE to finalize plans for Orlando. Tuesday, Dec.18 at 3:30 in the conference room. Thanks!

Disregard that last posting. It appears that we are meeting on Dec.4 after all. Broyhill Inn 4:15 "shared" meeting with Avery and ASU folks. We will substitute the Dec.4 meeting for Dec.18.

The Ashe PDS Focus Group is scheduled to meet on Tuesday, Dec.18 at 3:30 in the conference room. We need to discuss Orlando at that time. Marc? I will make sure Mr.Howell is aware of the meeting and the national conference in Orlando.

Understandable Alex-although we will miss you. Please let me know if anyone is interested in attending this year. Thanks

Gang,
 
I discussed going to Orlando for my 4th National PDS Conference with my wife over the weekend and we decided it will be best for me not to go. With an infant, the building of our new house, and being in coaching season I think it is wiser for me to stay home this year. Sorry. If I can get Leigh Howle on board I'll ask her!
Thanks,
Alex

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From: QT - Becky Wells [1] Sent: Wed 11/21/2007 10:00 AM
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Focus Group Meeting Tuesday, Novmeber 20
Attendees: ASU: Linda McCalister, Sandra Oldendorf, and Kathy Howell
ACHS: Becky Wells, Carmen Wilson, Pat Morrison, Alex Rollins, Marc Gamble

>Mr. Howell approved a required meeting for all cooperating teachers on January 2, 2008 at 8:30 in the ACHS media center; Kathy Howell will represent ASU and Becky Wells will represent the Ashe PDS Focus Group; the purpose of the meeting is to emphasize the importance of coteaching as an essential part of the student teaching experience; a handout describing a variety of coteaching methods will be provided.

>Linda McCalister is locating someone to film our coteaching video clips this spring. Joe Murphy has an advanced class which may have grad students looking for a "project"; Sandra Oldendorf also mentioned Jeff Fletcher (ASU) as a possibility. Dr.Oldendorf also expressed the need for a promotional video that could be used by secondary ed folks for recruitment purposes; could we use the video footage used to create our coteaching power point to also create a promo?

>Alex Rollins has agreed to go to Orlando to present at the National PDS conference; I was asked to speak with Mr.Howell about attending. The group discussed the need for fresh faces to get involved: Marc Gamble will ask Jenny Risk, Alex Rollins will ask Leigh Howle, and Becky Wells will ask Jennifer Phipps.

The Ashe and Avery PDS Focus Groups will have a Sharing Meeting on Dec.4 at the Broyhill Inn from 4:30-6:30. Linda McCalister will invite the ASU Secondary Ed Advisory Committee members to attend. Becky Wells will invite Phil Howell as well as the "new" members to attend. The purpose of the meeting will be to promote greater collaboration between the public school cooperating teachers and the university methods instructors. Marc Gamble and Sandra Oldendorf agreed to share their successes with bringing the public school teacher into the methods instruction.

Don't forget... the Ashe Advisory Group is having their November meeting tomorrow at 3:30 in the conference room. Hope to see you there. We need to discuss filming of the coteaching models.

Password given to Marc and Becky

agreed....
 
alex

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From: QT - Kathy Howell [1] Sent: Wed 10/31/2007 8:54 AM
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ya think?

Perhaps this group should consider a password. What do all of you think?

Group, it looks like our filmer has decided not to do the work. I can't say this for sure because I cannot contact him. However, I will probably not let him do the filming at this point given his track record. I think we should move toward the spring for filming and set the dates early. Joe Murphy has some ideas for his advanced media class to work with us. What do you think?

Vicky Grube an art educator at ASU will be joining us on this Advisory Group. Welcome Vicky!

Edited by author 10-15-2007 03:40 PM
Ashe PDS Meeting October 15, 2007
*this meeting did replace the originally scheduled meeting on October 23.

Attendees: ASU:Linda McCalister and Kathy Howell
ACHS: Becky Wells, Marc Gamble, Pat Morrison, Polly Jones, and Jenny Risk Student teachers: Ruth Ashe, Jennifer Baldwin, April Blevins, Ryan Chapman, Diana Cook, Alyssa Finneyfrock, Chelsey Gray, Jolie Nance, and Jeremy Shelton.

Ashe PDS Focus Group met with all student teachers and cooperating teachers to give them an opportunity to discuss any issues that have come up during the first half of their student teaching experience. Student teachers shared some experiences with handling discipline and continuing the appropriate student/teacher relationship. The STs also shared their concerns over the lack of information/assistance with the technology portfolio in specific subject areas at the secondary level. Dr.McCalister made note of those areas and agreed to follow up with their concerns. She also shared her office phone# with the STs in the event that they have any other concerns/frustrations with the completion of student teaching.

Student release forms were distributed for those teachers filming.
Dr.McCalister is also in charge of locating a videographer for the Co-Teaching Project. The following dates were scheduled:

Thursday, October 25 - 1st Polly Jones/Chelsea Gray - alternate teaching
                       2nd Marc Gamble/April Blevins - team teaching
                       3rd Pat Morrison/Jolie Nance - station teaching
Thursday, November 15- 2nd Marc Gamble/ April Blevins - team teaching
                       3rd Becky Wells/Jeremy Shelton - 1 teach/ 1 support

Next PDS Focus Group Mtg. is scheduled for Tuesday, Nov. 20.

I put down Oct.15th at 1:00 on the Partnership calendar. Do you all want that to be your meeting for Oct. instead of the 23rd.

If anyone has a picture that they would like for me to post as the picture (at the top) for a while send it to me. I think we need something new. It can be a workshop, group picture or anything else you would like. Thanks

Ashe PDS Meeting September 18, 2007

Attendees:

Linda McCalister, Becky Wells, Phil Howell, Carmen Wilson, Kathy Howell, Alex Rollins, Marc Gamble, Sandra Oldendorf, and Pat Morrison.

Items of Discussion:

1. A meeting of all current student teachers was scheduled for 1 pm on Monday, October 15. We will begin the meeting with a general discussion/questions and concerns. The focus of the meeting will be sharing co-teaching successes and planning for the filming of a variety of co-teaching models in ACHS classrooms. Becky Wells will get a copy of the co-teaching document out to each cooperating teacher and student teacher prior to the meeting in addition to notifying them of their expected attendance at the Oct.15 meeting.

2. In regards to the actual filming of the co-teaching models, Linda McCalister agreed to locate a videographer at ASU. The folks at Ashe will determine the filming schedule based on the availability of the videographer. Additionally, Linda McCalister agreed to check on the need for an IRB waiver for filming ASU students. Becky Wells will reword the National Boards Certification release form for Ashe students in classrooms that will be filmed.

3. Becky Wells voiced concern over the current process of placing interns. Sandra Oldendorf explained that the NC Teaching Fellows director releases those interns to her as the social studies methods instructor. It was suggested that Linda McCalister speak to the NCTF director and suggest that the same placement procedure for internships should occur in all other departments. Phil Howell asked that ASU methods instructors contact him with a hard copy of all interns needing to be placed for his/her department. Then the principal would contact his department chairs at ACHS to place interns. Methods instructors should no longer go directly to the department chairs at the participating public schools. Also, Linda McCalister clarified that interns can be placed in the same classroom as a student teacher if there is no other placement option.

Alex, Marc, Carmen , Calvin and Pat. So good to hear from you all. Hope everyone had a great summer. Marc, Hope you are still on the mend.

hi gang, i'm catching up on all the great dialogue of late.
 
i think a meeeting of minds is a great idea!
 
alex

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I'll see what I can do.
Calvin

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I'm here!

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i'm here! and will be there!

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From: QT - Linda McCalister [1] Sent: Wed 9/5/2007 2:26 PM
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Edited by author 09-05-2007 03:08 PM
The student teacher meeting according to Becky Wells went very well. We had 100% participation from student teachers and
several cooperating teachers were able to attend as well. We tried to
make it interactive, but we had very few questions asked. Some good
discussion occurred regarding appropriate student/student teacher
relationships.

Maybe she can join us from that level. Who will be the school administrator joining us?

Larry Rousseau and Calvin Miller are invited to be part of our group as site supervisors. Larry and Calvin, meetings are listed below. Will you be able to join us this year?

Ashe PDS Meetings

Sept.18
Oct.23
Nov.20
Dec.18
Jan.22
Feb.19
Mar. 18
April 22
May 20

Carmen,

Are you there?

Great, We would love for Carmen to stay with us if she is interested!

No, Carmen has agreed to continue as no one else from the math dept. was interested in joining. I will continue to encourage Harry VanWyk to represent the EC dept.; however, he has made no commitment at this time.

Rebecca Culler Wells
English Department, Ashe County High School
(336) 246-2400
rebecca.wells@ashe.k12.nc.us
 
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." ~ George Bernard Shaw

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Linda, Joallen Lowder IS a central office representative. She is no longer at the high school. FYI.

Rebecca Culler Wells
English Department, Ashe County High School
(336) 246-2400
rebecca.wells@ashe.k12.nc.us
 
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Pat, Scott, are you there?

I would like to welcome Joellen Lowder to our group. It will be good to have you join us in our advisory group meetings group meetings. We are also planning on inviting someone from the central office to join us. Please plan on bringing any information that you want to put together for the co-teaching model. We will also set up a schedule for filming for this year. Look forward to seeing all of you on the 18th

Ashe PDS Meetings

Sept.18
Oct.23
Nov.20
Dec.18
Jan.22
Feb.19
Mar. 18
April 22
May 20

Marc, Alex are you there?
Becky as I understand it Carmen is no longer a member of this group. Please let me know who will be taking her place. Thanks

Got it.

Got it.

Roma B. Angel, Ed.D.
Assistant Dean
Office of Field Experiences
Reich College of Education
Appalachian State University
Boone, North Carolina 28608
Phone: 828-262-2109 (office)
Fax: 828-262-2128
Cell: 828-260-0368
angelrb@appstate.edu

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Loud and Clear
Genele

Please let me know if you are getting this message. Thanks

Thanks for getting this together Becky. Please let me know as soon as possible who will be representing math and PE and who will be representing the administration. Also, we will need to know if everyone will be attending the meeting ahead of time. I suggest that you sign up for the meeting Wizard http://www.meetingwizard.com/
This has been a great help for me and lets everyone know who will be attending the meetings. Be sure to include everyone one th mailing list (me, Roma, Traci, Kathy). when you set up the program. Thanks.

Becky, What is the proposed time frame for meetings?

After waiting for input and working around the dates of other groups, I’ve decided to go with the third Tuesday of every month for our PDS Focus Group monthly meetings. Unless I hear back from someone by Tuesday, Sept. 4, I will reserve the conference room for the following dates: Sept.18, Oct.23, Nov.20, Dec.18, Jan.22, Feb.19, Mar. 18, April 22, and May 20. I’ll be in touch regarding what needs to happen to prepare for the first meeting. Thank you, Becky
If you have items you'd like to include in the agenda for the first meeting, please email me and I'll be happy to include you.

I need your fall meeting dates as soon as possible. Please meet and set up your calendar and let me know. Include the new administrator and the new math teacher in the group. Looking forward to seeing you soon.

Linda

Please post your meeting dates for this year. Please avoid Wednesdays. You might need to meet one time first to decide when most everyone can meet. Thanks

http://www.library.appstate.edu/imc/about/for%20teachers.html

Please note these library resources for cooperating teachers. This finally happened!

What is the word on the final PDS meeting of this school year. Pat Morrison had mentioned this Friday, the 25 or Monday the 28. Is either a go; if so what time; I'd like to be there.
Kathy

Alex/Becky, Could you please send me a list of the Advisory Groups Accomplishments this year.I need it today. Here is Avery's if it helps.

Thanks

•PDS representatives presentation at National Conference
•PDS Evaluation showed many standards at developing status
•Co-teaching with Sandra Oldendorf for CI3100 “Social Studies Methods” / Co-teaching Max Dass and Kay Campany
•Training Cooperating Teachers-Ashe/Avery
•Conversations with Teachers-Ashe/Avery

•Avery addition of technical education and special education to advisory group web page linked to the Avery County High School
•Avery/Held a major meeting with the Avery County Schools’ Superintendent, the ASU RCOE Interim Associate Dean, the ASU RCOE Student Teacher Supervisor, the Avery County Schools Curriculum and Instruction Specialist, the Avery County Schools Human Resources Director to finalize and implement a student teacher placement procedure.
•Avery held a series of well-received mini sessions after school during the spring semester 2007 with the student teachers.
•Dr. Max Dass with his Science Methods students and Eddie Clark with his Honors Anatomy and Physiology Class worked together in the Spring 2007 Semester on the ACHS campus
•Visited the University of North Carolina at Wilmington’s PDS program, the UNC-W Watson School of Education, and Laney High School’s PDS program in February 2007 gaining valuable information and insights about the PDS concept
•Attended the National Association of Professional Development Schools Annual Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada. Session focused on the use of technology to enhance instruction in the classroom.
•“Avery / Ashe Sharing” Q-Topic site so that we can communicate more effectively and share ideas with our sister PDS school
•Workshop on data driven decisions for the three PDS schools

Facilitators,

Please report (today if possible) your accomplishments for 2006-2007- including, major discussions, workshops, projects, conferences, websites etc.. Thanks.

Howdy Gang,
 
Here are the minutes from the last meeting. Hope all is going well and things are less intense than what I'm experiencing.
Attendance:
Pat Morrison
Joallen Lowder
Becky Wells
Marc Gamble
Alex Rollins
Dr. Sandra Oldendorph (sorry for the spelling)
Dr. Linda McCalister

Topics of Discussion:
 
1) cannot require student teachers to come early, must stay till Dec. 4th 2) committee suggested writing into contract "Student teachers are expected" to come to the first day of school if they are at a PDS site
3) co-teaching models have been added to student teacher handbooks 4) filming goals in fall to demonstrate different levels/stages of co-teaching (ASU will provide multimedia peoples)
5) teaching of sciences from ASU faculty
6) Becky will talk to Dana Long about coming onto committee
7) need to add Harry Van Wyke to committee as inclusion "expert"
8) Alex Rollins will be replaced by Becky Wells as the acting 2007-2008 PDS Site Coordinator
Next Meeting:

Friday, May 25th!!! Let us (Becky or myself) if this doesn't work!!! Please put this in your book!
Thanks,

Alex Rollins
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Ashe PDS Meeting
April 26, 2007

Attendees: Dr. McCalister, Dr.Oldendorf, Alex Rollins, Marc Gamble, Pat Morrison, Becky Wells, Joallen Lowder

1. The attendees came to a consensus that Becky Wells will serve as Ashe PDS Coordinator for 2007-2008.

2. Becky Wells will make efforts to recruit new members to the Ashe PDS Focus Group; specifically, Dana Hensen from the math dept. and Harry Van Wyk from Exceptional Children.

3. Discussion was held regarding Student Teacher Seminars for Fall 2007; 30 minute mini- sessions were suggested. Becky Wells will work up a tentative schedule for review at the next meeting.

4. Discussion was held regarding the filming of various co-teaching models to use as training for ACHS staff, cooperative teachers as well as inclusion classrooms. Linda McCalister has an ASU student lined up to assist us with filming in the fall semester. The details of the videos are another matter that could be worked out at the end of school year meeting.

5. Input needed in regards to meeting on the required teacher workday Friday, May 25 from 3:30 – 5:00. With graduation scheduled for 8:00 that evening, would members be willing to meet on Monday, May 28 (optional workday) to discuss fall seminar schedule?

Ya'll,
 
Remember, PDS meeting in the conference room today at 3:30. I have been unable to find a replacement in the math dept. Can someone help me with this? I will be gone during classes today for local field trips. Dana does not want to do it.
Thanks,
Alex

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Edited by author 04-19-2007 10:21 AM
The Ashe PDS Meeting will be Wednesday, April 25th at 3:30 at Ashe High School

Agenda

Introduction of New members
Co-Teaching Model-next steps
Planning-2007-2008

We have someone that is willing to film co-teaching in your classrooms. Interested? You, of course, would have a say in editing.

Please choose from the following dates for your March meeting
6,7,21,26,27,28

Do we have student teachers in vocational? We really need teachers who could possibly get student teachers. Also, we need more representation from math. Carmen, would like to recommend someone to be a co-member since you are not able to give much time to the group?

Please let me know meeting dates for the remainder of the year so that I can get them on my calendar.

I would recommend Jennifer Holman (vocational), Harry Van Wyk (inclusion).

I agree. Time well used and spent! Do we need to meet again. Doi need to pay some of you to work some more on this on your own. What so you think about some graphic representations. Alex, you did not send me the final copy :)

I certainly hope everyone was as pleased as I with our work Tuesday. Alex, the nearly completed briefing for Phil sound good. As a next step should we give consideration to expanding the working group? On the plus side: more input, differing points of view, additional support for the process; on the negative side: will that mean getting new folks up to speed, will it slow the process, who would be the logical next includee, a recent RCOE grad perhaps? pre-service teacher? SPecED Inclusion person?

If he/she is interested

linda,
 
should i go ahead and bring over a student teacher to take part in this too?
alex

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linda,
 
i got this one thanks.
 
alex

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From: QT - Linda McCalister [1] Sent: Wed 1/31/2007 12:55 PM
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Note from your county tech person. I replied to help Alex. Everyone else should be getting this-right. Please reply so that I will know. thanks


Hey,

I was able to click on every link that was active and they all opened
up. If someone inside one of our schools is having an issue they need
to come talk to me so I can see what their having a problem with. We
have had some email issues with ASU but that always seems to be Asu does
not have the teachers new email address in their system.

Thanks,
Kevin Jones

That would be great Tracie. We will be meeting first in 03 then move to the libray from there

I'd love to come by in between some classes to sit in on some of your discussions. Is that okay?
Tracie

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Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
828-262-2376
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Reminder of our meeting Feb 6th. We will meet at 03 Edwin Duncan at 8:30 and have a room reserved at the library. Please pass this on to all members of the group and any new members that might be coming on board. Looking forward to seeing every one.

Linda

Someone please reply. i never know if I am getting through to ya'll

PDS Conference

I will be sending in registration payment and forms for the following people. Please take care of all other arrangements and we will take care of reimbursements later.


Presenters
Becky Griffith
John Spagnolo
Marc Gamble
Alex Rollins
Linda McCalister

Drema Morris
Roma Angel
Dawn Poore

Please let me know who is going to the PDS meeting by tomorrow (Wed) if possible. We can pay for two people and hopefully you all can pick up one. I need to send in registrations. You all are responsible for your own plane and hotel reservations. Thanks.

http://www.orbitz.com/App/GetDealsDetailsC...c11287x047-dealsnew

Need to know who is going to Vegas for the PDS meeting. Link for flight above

We are set for February 6th 9:00- 4:00 to work at ASU's library on our co-teaching model. Meet in 03 (Octagon) Edwin Duncan Hall at 9:00. We will meet in 03 initially, then go to our workroom in the library. Lunch will be provided back in 03 at 12:00. Try to bring some initial research to review before we begin our search. Have a great holiday!

From: Alex Rollins
Sent: Wed 12/6/2006 7:51 AM
To: Phil Howell; Carmen Wilson; Pat Morrison; Scott Grubb; Rebecca Wells; Marc Gamble; Alex Rollins
Subject: PDS Minutes


Meeting Date:
December 4th, 2006
 
Attendance:
Pat Morrison
Phil Howell
Becky Wells
Marc Gamble
Alex Rollins
Dr. Charles Duke
Dr. Linda McCalister
Dr. Tracie Salianas
 
Topics of Discussion:

* National PDS Conference in Las Vegas (March 29th-April 1st) presenation will center around SALT Grant
* NCCAT and developing Co-teaching model
* Diversity Criteria Standards for ASU
* Continuity of Internship to Student Teaching
* Visits of Academic Consultants to observe student teachers
* Cooperating Teacher Package ($100/student teacher and 25% off bookstore purchases)

Next Meeting:

Tuesday, February 6th, 2007!!! Please put this in your book!

Thanks,

Alex Rollins

Reminder
PDS advisory group meeting on Monday Dec 4th at 23:30

We will review the recommendations that you made from the Standards Document. Dr. Charles Dulke will be joining us for this meeting. Thanks

Avery PDS site. Good ideas for Ashe as well:)


http://ww2.averyschools.net/~beckygriffith/index_pds.htm

Great. I am signing up one of you involved in John's grant to present at the conference. I put Marcs name down but we can change it if needed. I sent in a proposal today

linda,
 
we're meeting today. i'll send you an email and let you know this p.m.
have a great turkey day and thanks for doing all the legwork on this.
alex

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Who is going to the PDS Conference? I think we can pay for two from Ashe and Avery

The Teacher Scholar Program at NCAT is scheduled for March 5-9, 2007. We have to apply. Does this date look okay. The conference is at the end of March. Anybody there :)

I have checked on an NCAT visit. They are open for us to come for researching co-teaching. Please let me know as a group (Alex) the time of year you would like to atted and I will make arrangements on this end. Thanks

FYI: rebecca.wells@asheschools.com

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Minutes From PDS Meeting

Date: October 31st, 2006

Attendance: Carmen Wilson, Marc Gamble, Linda McCalister, Roma Angel,
             Calvin Miller, Alex Rollins, John Spagnolo

Issues: SALT Grant presentation by John Spagnolo, ACHS is to elect
             two science and two history teachers to participate in grant
             opportunity.

             Reminder to get a student teacher to join our PDS

             Assessed five standards between ASU and ACHS; beginning
             level, developing, and at standard

Dec. Meeting: Monday, December 4th in ACHS conference room.

Sorry this is so late....

Alex Rollins

Minutes From PDS Meeting

Date: October 31st, 2006

Attendance: Carmen Wilson, Marc Gamble, Linda McCalister, Roma Angel,
             Calvin Miller, Alex Rollins, John Spagnolo

Issues: SALT Grant presentation by John Spagnolo, ACHS is to elect
             two science and two history teachers to participate in grant
 opportunity

I just got a message that everyone in Ashe is changin their emial. Please let me know who got this message. Also need to know if it is becky.wells or rebeccah.wells. Thanks

Genele, My home address is PO Box 147, West Jefferson, N.C. 28694 Calvin
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Genele, My Soc Sec. # is 245-42- 7909
  Thanks, Calvin Miller

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I need home addresses and social security numbers for Carmen Wilson and Calvin Miller so I can pay them the $50 stipend. If you would prefer, call me at 828-262-7647 or send me an e-mail at byrdgr@appstate.edu.

Thanks,
Genele R. Byrd
Linda McCalister's Secretary

The next meeting is Dec. 4th. Everyone please mark your calendar. It will be an important meeting. Alex will follow with minutes from yesterday's meeting soon.

Is there a regular PDS meeting for Ashe on M, Oct. 6 at 3:30? Sandra

I think that Alex contacted everyone about the date. Please attend if you can. Thanks

Sorry, won't be there...didn't know we had one and I have a long
standing dental appt....unless they are running late. pat

Pat Kincheloe Morrison
Art / Ceramics
Ashe County High School
336-246-2400


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I hope to see everyone at the meeting today. We are going to take a look at where we are with the PDS standards and hear John Spagnolo talk about an intitiative that will help us with one of them. See you there.

Linda

According to the procedure that was set up by the PDS the applications go to the principal who then passes them on to the department chairs for placement. You all can then meet with your department chairs to determine good placement. This procedure has been approved by Dr. Angel.

Marc, Not that I know of.
 Calvin

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I will ask Dr. Angel about this and get back to you.

I am just now rescuing all of my Adv. Group messages from the "Barricuda Spam Catcher" or whatever its called. Among those things was the student teacher's calendar for this fall. Is there any need for cooperating teachers, department chairs, or other interested school and classroom based personnel to make arrangements for the "placement" meetings?

Hey!
Imagine my surprise when i opened the Barracuda spam email which i have deleted for the past few months thinking it was an ad! i have found a million lost emails including ALL the AAG's emails. so, you had a meeting on monday? oops....maybe i'll catch them now! Pat


Pat Kincheloe Morrison
Ashe County High School
Art / Ceramics
336-246-2400 (school)
336-877-5715 (home)

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Marc,

11:22 at night is too late to be thinking. You should be asleep.

I'm thinking...

Ashe PDS Advisory Group Meeting Schedule

3:30

October 2nd

Nov. 6th

Dec. 4th

Please read this important article regarding the Levine article.


http://www.ncate.org/public/0912_LevineReport.asp?ch=148

Edited by author 10-03-2006 05:56 PM
*******I'll try to address your questions one at a time

So, ultimately, all student teachers coming to Ashe High beginning this spring will be expected to go above and beyond what is expected of students who chose to go elsewhere ( a non PDS site or school without a weather waiver)?
*******Students will not necessarily be expected to do more. 15 weeks is a minimun requirement. It seems to me that we would want to use the time as a opportunity to provide them with more. Again, if they are to remain in the setting that they had the internship in then it is a great opportunity to provide time in other diverse settings-not necessarily your classroom or even your school. It also seems to me that this takes care of the problem that came up in our meeting yesterday. It is absolutely about "best practices"-not doing the minimum -then leaving.

If the cooperating teachers at ACHS desire that our student teachers follow the public school calendar vs. ASU calendar, then we will ultimately lose student teachers when they begin to realize that fifteen weeks is indeed not fifteen weeks.

************I'm not sure what you mean here. I think that we will let prospective student teachers know that this expeprience will be an enrichment experience and may require that they be engaged for a good part of the semester. 15 weeks for the sake of fifteen weeks seems to be antithetical to "good practice". Also, we will not lose them if they choose a PDS school and know the requirements.

Although the term "enrichment" sounds nice, what you are actually saying is "extra".
************I agree that it would be "extra" if, in fact, it is not an "enriched" experience. It's quality not quantity that we should go for.

This lack of flexibility is taking away from the goals of the PDS program rather than promoting innovative student teacher preparation.
*********Really-how?

It was my understanding when I joined the PDS focus group that the ultimate goal was to promote what was best for our students as well as ASU students. Cooperating teachers and student teachers agree that involvement on the first days of school is an extremely beneficial learning experience.

**********This would include beginning the first day of school.

 I am at a loss as to why the university would choose to ignore best practice and/or punish those student teachers who recognize it.


*********Hopefully this will be an opportunity, not a punishment.


*********Again, we are talking about possibilites. Please think about this.

Linda,

I will contact John with a date. Thanks for checking on this.

Alex




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So, ultimately, all student teachers coming to Ashe High beginning this spring will be expected to go above and beyond what is expected of students who chose to go elsewhere ( a non PDS site or school without a weather waiver)? If the cooperating teachers at ACHS desire that our student teachers follow the public school calendar vs. ASU calendar, then we will ultimately lose student teachers when they begin to realize that fifteen weeks is indeed not fifteen weeks. Although the term "enrichment" sounds nice, what you are actually saying is "extra". This lack of flexibility is taking away from the goals of the PDS program rather than promoting innovative student teacher preparation. It was my understanding when I joined the PDS focus group that the ultimate goal was to promote what was best for our students as well as ASU students. Cooperating teachers and student teachers agree that involvement on the first days of school is an extremely beneficial learning experience. I am at a loss as to why the university would choose to ignore best practice and/or punish those student teachers who recognize it. Rebecca C. Wells
English Dept.
Ashe County High School
336-246-2400

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Student teachers will need to have an experience in diverse settings in their field experience from now on. We have to do this as a college of education to maintain our accreditation status. I suggest that rather than the PDS experience being only 15 weeks that we encourage teachers to start their experience early and continue until the end of the semester with the extra weeks at the end devoted to providing diverse and enriched experiences for them. This way we will continue to be able to do internships and student teaching experiences in the same school. We need to do some thinking and talking on this issue. It seems to me that in a PDS setting that going beyond the minimum 15 weeks requirement will allow us unique opportunities to work with this requirement as well as other curricular issues and to provide enriched experiences for our pre-service teachers. One option would be to have a study group at the school during this time or to begin a group in the semster and continue through the end of the semester. Teachers coming to a PDS would then know that it is suggested (Not required) that they begin when the semester starts and that they will have an enriched experience with other opportunities in a PDS environment that will last to the end of the semester. It will then be their choice whether to become part of that experience or not. Hopefully, we can make it something that they will want to experience.

John Spagnola has agreed to come over to Ashe and work with the technology portfolio for student teachers. Please give me a date and we will set this in motion. Thanks

Linda, Really good information! Thanks, Becky

Rebecca C. Wells
English Dept.
Ashe County High School
336-246-2400

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I am finding a lot on co-teaching. Query-co-teaching model student teachers
One site below:

http://www.azteachscience.co.uk/code/devel...t/coteaching/3.html

I'm sorry but I have a meeting on campus on Oct. 2 at 4 so I will be unable to make it to the PDS meeting. Sandra

Looking forward to seeing you all again. We need to talk a little more about the money issue. I talked to your tech person and I thought the firewall was open for Q-topic. Please give me his email address again. Thanks. I will post info to the rest of the committee. Thanks

Note from Tracie Salina below:

Alex and all -
I remember that in a couple of the advisory group meetings,
requests were made for more professional development and
involvement from faculty in Arts and Sciences. A colleague of
mine in the math dept and Max Dass in the sciences are joining
together to write a grant proposal that could assist in doing
just that.
We are wanted to provide professional development for teachers
across the region in integrating mathematics and science content
in locally significant ways - agriculture, wildlife management,
sustainable
development, ecotourism. We think that this will allow for some
wonderful opportunities for curriculum development, enriching
the AFM course, building technology understanding and capacity,
and (hopefully!) motivating some students in math and science
who might not normally be engaged. While we go about this, we
hope to also do some evaluation into the barriers to team
teaching or teaching integrated content and into the motivation
of students who slip through math and science without becoming
engaged.
 
Do any of you have any thoughts or comments as we begin the
planning of this grant? We want to make this relevant and
useful to you, and we know that you have the most insight into
what that would be. We hope to meet with you in coming weeks to
show you our plan, get your feedback, and ask for a letter of
your support.
Thank you!
Tracie

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Alex and all -
I remember that in a couple of the advisory group meetings, requests were made for more professional development and involvement from faculty in Arts and Sciences. A colleague of mine in the math dept and Max Dass in the sciences are joining together to write a grant proposal that could assist in doing just that.
We are wanted to provide professional development for teachers across the region in integrating mathematics and science content in locally significant ways - agriculture, wildlife management, sustainable
development, ecotourism. We think that this will allow for some
wonderful opportunities for curriculum development, enriching the AFM course, building technology understanding and capacity, and (hopefully!) motivating some students in math and science who might not normally be engaged. While we go about this, we hope to also do some evaluation into the barriers to team teaching or teaching integrated content and into the motivation of students who slip through math and science without becoming engaged.
 
Do any of you have any thoughts or comments as we begin the planning of this grant? We want to make this relevant and useful to you, and we know that you have the most insight into what that would be. We hope to meet with you in coming weeks to show you our plan, get your feedback, and ask for a letter of your support.
Thank you!
Tracie

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Tracie McLemore Salinas, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
828-262-2376
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PDS Committee,

We will host our semester Student Teacher Forum on Monday, October 2nd in the library at 3:30. To kill two birds with one stone we will follow up this forum with our monthly PDS meeting so please clear your schedule for a nice long afternoon.

I am working on delegating topics to committee members and should have these to you by tomorrow p.m. by the latest. Please let me know if you have any preferences.

Linda, we would like to invite you to this meeting and would love for you to participate if you would like.

As mentioned earlier, App has been kind to donate some monies to our school as part of the PDS. So far, one of the better ideas that I have heard is to arrange a nice meal (Frazers? Michaels?) for student teachers and the cooperating teachers (plus spouse) at the end of the semester. This was offered by Terry Williams. Any other suggestions?

Cheerio'
Alex Rollins

genele here

QT - Linda McCalister wrote:

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Administrative Secretary
Reich College of Education
828-262-2232
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Yes, we are getting Q topic messages now. I know there was a firewall problem until earlier this week.

Please respond if you are getting this message

I have added Dr. Angel to this discussion site. Are you all still out there?

http://www.partnership.appstate.edu/index.htm

Go to the Partnership site and click on compiled calendar if you cannot access the site that I sent you. Thanks

Compiled Partnership Calendar

http://www.partnership.appstate.edu/docume...hipCalendar_000.doc

Alex
I need your schedule by the end of this week if possible.

SCHEDULE OF STUDENT TEACHER MEETINGS
2006-2007

Opening Information Meeting– for Fall Semester 2006 Student Teachers
Monday, August 21, 2006 –1:00-2:00p.m.
General Meeting – I.G. Greer Auditorium
Group Meetings – Edwin Duncan

Placement Meeting – for Spring Semester 2007
Monday, September 25, 2006 – 5:00-6:00 p.m.
General Meeting – Blue Ridge Ballroom
Interviews – October 2,3

Student Teaching Seminar – Fall 2006
Friday, October 13, 2006 - 8:30-2:00
Grandfather Ballroom - Plemmons Student Union

Education Career Fair – Fall 2006
Monday, October 30, 2006 - 9:00-12:00
Broyhill Conference Center

Orientation for Prospective Student Teachers, Fall 2007 and Spring 2008
Wednesday, November 1 - 5:00-6:00 pm
Broyhill Conference Center

Opening Information Meeting – for Spring Semester 2007 Student Teachers
Friday , January 5, 2007 - 2:30 – 4:30 p.m.
General Meeting – Grandfather Ballroom, Student Union
Group Meetings – Student Union

Placement Meeting – for Fall Semester 2007
Thursday, February 8, 2007 – 4:00-5:00 p.m.
General Meeting – Grandfather Ballroom, Student Union
Interviews – February 13, 14

Student Teaching Seminar – Spring 2007
Friday, March 2, 2007
Grandfather Ballroom – Plemmons Student Union

Education Career Fair – Spring 2007
Monday, March 26, 2007
Broyhill Conference Center


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Student Teaching Dates For Academic Year 2006-2007

Fall Semester, 2006:
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 – Tuesday, December 5, 2006

Alex, Please give me you meeting dates for the year so that I can put them on my schedule. Please avoid Wednesdays and go for the 2nd week of the month. We do not have to meet every month but we do need a schedule as soon as possible. Thanks

Hi, everyone!
I wanted to let you know that a colleague of mine here in the mathematics department, Katie Mawhinney, and I are working on a grant proposal that would include professional development for teachers. We're looking specifically at integrating math and science content, using technology effectively, and motivating at-risk students through interesting math and science applications. All professional development would be provided free of charge to participating teachers, and all time would earn renewal credits and/or graduate course credits. Once we have a proposal, we would love to meet with you to finalize things and obtain your agreement to participate. Does anyone have any thoughts about your unique challenges? Suggestions about your particular needs?
Thank you so much!
Tracie

Since I have three schools could I suggest the 1st week for Watauga, 2nd for Ashe and 3rd for Avery so that I we don't run into conflicting times. Thanks.

Welcome back everyone. Looking forward to a good year. Dr. Angel will be meeting with your principal and Site Coordinator soon. In the mean time please send me the list of dates for monthly meetings this year so that we will have them on the calendar. Wednesday's are out for me. Thanks.

PDS concerns/needs:
-lack of communication between all the different parties involved in the 'education' of student teachers still causing problems and confusion -greater involvement of methods instructors in evaluation of student teachers; also greater involvement of high school teachers in the methods courses -compensation for cooperating teachers; free classes are not an incentive for those who have already completed a masters program -clarification of requirements of technology portfolio as well as clarification of cooperating teachers' responsibilities; recent student teachers have been very resentful of work load if no one is actually going to read and review the finished product!

I'm familiar with Dr.Angel through my masters program. Very exciting to have her onboard!

Rebecca C. Wells
English Teacher
Ashe County High School



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I met with Dr. Angel yesterday and talked about many of our concerns. I am encouraged by her willingness to listen and work with us. I told her that I would send her a list of concerns that the advisory groups have had for a while. Would you please list a few here. Thanks

I am pleased to announce that Dr. Roma Angel from the Department of Leadership and Educational Studies has agreed to serve as interim Assistant Dean for Field Experiences for the coming year. She will assume her duties as of July 1, 2006.

Dr. Angel brings a wealth of experience as a classroom teacher and administrator as well as her experience as a faculty member in the RCOE, including experience as program coordinator of the MSA program. Dr. Angel holds the following licensures: superintendent, principal, curriculum specialist, English, and Academically Gifted. She also has served as an elementary school principal, and an assistant principal at the high school level. In addition, Dr. Angel has traveled and presented internationally and most recently was co-director of a summer MSA experience in Puebla, Mexico.
She also has been very active in promoting uses of technology to enhance teaching and learning and her publications have appeared in a number of national and international journals and proceedings.

I am very pleased that Dr. Angel has accepted this appointment, and I know we will look forward to working with her in the area of field experiences
during the coming year. Dr. Charles Duke

Early August sounds good. Alex, congratulations and good luck!

Linda, Kathy Howell retired. Alex and I are both taking summer classes, not to mention Alex's wedding very soon. I have no childcare until school starts. Early August? Becky
Rebecca C. Wells
English Teacher
Ashe County High School



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We need to regroup at some point. Are any of you willing to meet for a short period of time any time soon?

The 18th, 24th, 30th are the only days I have available in May

Linda,

I will try to do this by the end of the week. Does Thurs. the 25 sound good for a last meeting date?
Alex




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Alex
Could you please post list activites/projects/accomplishments for 2005-2006 for your PDS group. Thank you very much.

If you are interested in CEU credits for participation in this group please send me the number of hours that you have attended and name of focus group to
byrdgr@appstate.edu.

Alex,please let me know as soon as possible about a May meeting. Thanks

Sorry, ACHS Academic Reception that evening and I need to help set up.
Good Luck.

We had two candidates this week for the Assistant Dean position. The schedule for the open meeting for the next candidates is

Thurs. April 20th-Dr. Dana Espinosa
Mon. April 24th-Dr. Karen Foster

*Both in room 317 at 1:45

We would love to have a representative from the PDS.

sorry, i have a meeting.

Pat Kincheloe Morrison
Ashe County High School
Art / Ceramics
336-246-2400 (school)
336-877-5715 (home)

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Alex and I have our masters class on Mondays from 3:30 - 6:30. Rebecca C. Wells English Teacher
Ashe County High School



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If you can that would be great. We are not getting many volunteers for this so I am close to the begging stage. Anyone else? We also need principals to come at 1:00 or 4:00. Phil, is that a possibility for you?

Linda, I would be happy to help out, but our gr.9,10 academic reception is that night and I have responsibiity for setting up the cafeteria. Let me see if I can get out of that (doubrful) and I will be happy to help. Marc
Marc Gamble
Social Studies Teacher
Ashe County High School
West Jefferson, NC 28694
"The great thing about learning is that nobody can take it away from you." B.B. King
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Next week NCATE will be here for our accreditation visit. We are planning visits with cooperating teachers, principals and superintendents in the Partnership and need your help. We have set a time for Monday, April 10th at 4:00 to meet with cooperating teachers. Would it be possible for some of you to be at this meeting? I know this is late notice but we would appreciate your help if possible. Thanks.

 

Linda

http://www.partnership.appstate.edu/

Picture from conference

I totally agree with you Marc and I think we should not let this happen in a PDS setting again. I shared this because of the placement of an intern and a student teacher together, which, in some cases, might be a good idea. When there is a supportive environment for both intern and student teacher and the experience is strututed so that everyone benefits, especially the students, then it may be a good model.We probably need to talk about this some more.

When can I meet with Ashe again?

Many of us would agree that a classroom with a student teacher offers a valuable opportunity for interns. The primary opportunity is to compare strategies of student teachers and practicioners, as well as having ample time to try out their own teaching prior to student teaching. HOWEVER, I would argue very strongly that two student teachers is a very bad idea.
In the "high stakes" testing era it is potentially problematic enough to accomodate one student teacher while keeping the classroom teacher (who is ultimately responsible) engaged. Many cooperating teachers are now using a "co-teaching" model which a body of research seems to endorse as most fruitful for all involved.
Having a good deal of involement with the cooperating teacher, as well as the the two student teachers in this setting I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is an exceptional situation. First of all the cooperating teacher is very, very strong. She challenges herself to be well prepared and expects no less of her student teachers. Additionally, due to a variety of professional activites she will be out of the building an unusually large amount of time this semester. And by her own choice and admission has been slow to adopt a "co-teaching" model; thereby freeing up enough time for the student teachers to get "their time in."
Happily the two student teachers are acquaintances and work well with others. They were familiar with the cooperating teacher and knew what to expect from her. In short this situation worked for a variety of reasons, very few of which, if any, could be replicated.
As a teacher shortage looms one response has always been to lower standards. Should placement options for student teachers become limited (as this scenario seems to suggest) it would be a grevious error to take this model as a solution.

This is a reflection from an intern at ASU who was placed in a class where there were two student teachers placed. Two student teachers is not a typical situation. We have placed interns with student teachers in several classes with good results.

Class reflection:
Since there are two student teachers in the classroom I have been
doing my internship, it has been a great opportunity to get a better
understanding of what student teaching will be like. I think both
student teachers have done a great job this semester and I have learned
a lot by observing them.
 Both teachers use lectures as their primary teaching strategy, which is very typical of a social studies classroom. Both teacher use
powerpoints which they make to help students learn the material. One
teacher prints off the powerpoints and use the notes to help him teach,
while the other has an amazing memory and doesn’t need any type of
notes. I know that when I student teach, I will need notes to help me
during my lecture. Both teachers try to relate their lectures to the
students. They are both very interesting and they get the material
across to the students at the same time. Both teachers are responsible
for covering all the material that they are supposed to. They do a
great job of staying on topic yet they let students ask questions. The
students are usually very involved in the discussion. They also create
activities to try to get students involved. They do activities like
debates to get students active, which is a great strategy.
 I look forward to student teaching next semester. I have gained a lot of incite to what student teaching is like. I would definately
recommend having all students intern in classrooms that have student
teachers. It prepares them more for what their life will be like the
next semester.

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Meeting on March 14th, 2006:

Attendance:

Alex Rollins
Carmen Wilson
Marc Gamble
Becky Griffith
Tracie Selinnas (sorry)
Becky Wells
Phil Howell

Topics Discussed:

Student Teacher Forum Dates and Responsibilities
How To Establish Better PR within the High School
Developing Reciprocity with ASU
Establish Staff Development Opportunites with Appalachian
Seek Out Grant Monies for Programs and Training

Becky was most helpful in helping us to access where we are and where we want to go to with our partnership.
Linda, we all hope your father is doing better and missed you at the meeting.
Regards,
Alex Rollins




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Please send your notes and names of attendees. Thanks

Hello All,

I am in Rock Hill in the hospital with my father. I plan to be here most of the week so will miss the meeting. Sorry-but unavoidable. Tracie Salinas will be there and possibly Becky Griffith from Avery. It would be good to focus on plans for next year (cooperating teacher training, conversations with teacher, etc. )and share experiences. Also, think about what you would like for your PDS conference attendees to gather from their experience. Looking forward to seeing some of you soon.

Linda

Linda,
I'm planning to visit with student teachers prior to the meeting, so I'll be driving myself on Tuesday. See you there.

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Tracie McLemore Salinas, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
828-262-2376
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marc,

tell her she is welcome to come and we encourage her to come. i'll send mr. howell another note to see if he can attend.
thanks,
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Alex,
In fact the Avery PDS chair has offered to come on down for the meeting. We need to let her know PDQ. I will not be here tomorrow (Friday) but we need to let her know.

Sorry to miss the meeting - I'll be out of town.

Sorry, I realized that I will have to leave a 3:50 for a doctor's appointment. Pat
Pat Kincheloe Morrison
Ashe County High School
Art / Ceramics
336-246-2400 (school)
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Tracie Salinas and I are coming.

_____________________________
Linda McCalister, Ed.D
Director, Public School Partnership
Appalachian State University
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PDS Advisory Committee,

Sounds like a resounding big ol' okay to meet one week from today, Tuesday, March 14th.
See ya'll then, same bat time same bat channel.

Marc, are any of the Avery folks coming over?
Linda, any Happy Appy people coming?

See ya'll then,
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I should be there.

Alex, I can be there until 3:50 - I have an appointment in town at 4:00. Kathy
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Because that falls during our spring break, I can actually attend that Tuesday meeting. Tracie


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Linda,

After polling our committee members I believe that Tuesday, March 14th will work for us in lieu of the 7th. Hopefully, this works for everyone who wasn't able to respond to the email.
Let us know if this is good for you.

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Good news. Partnership budget has been unfrozen! Honorariums on the way.

Alex,

Get with your teachers and principal first and decide on a day when you all can meet. Tues/Thurs are preferable for me. Then get with me first and then post the date to the Q-topic. Thanks.

Linda

Alex, I, as Sandra have a Social Studies Focus Group mtg the first Tuesday if every month. Sorry.
Marc

T, Mar. 7 is the date of the next Social Studies Focus Group meeting so I will miss the PDS meeting. Sandra

I wouldn't be able to be there that day because of teaching. However, any other Tuesday in March would work since my students will be out in the schools or we have spring break. Thanks!

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Howdy All,

We are tentatively planning the next PDS meeting for Tuesday, March 7th. I will let all know ASAP to confirm this.
Thanks a lot for everyone's help. Let me know if you have concerns.
Cheerio,
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The Advisory Group Meeting has been cancelled for today.

Thanks Phil. Whichever works best for you all.

Hey,
I hope that you are doing well. It appears as though "bios" and their distribution is at issue. I will gladly disperse these to Dept. Chairs, no big issues...just an attempt to streamline the process. Thanks,
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Actually, Avery's go to the assistant prinicipal then to the department chairs. What you have proposed for Ashe will work with the same guidelines. We are purposely being general in these steps to allow for minor differences among schools. The important thing is, as Marc mentioned, that the procedures are not by-passed to make quick placements that are not always in the best interest of everyone, but more in the interest of filling needed placements.

What do you think?

Becky, I'm glad that our recollections are the same. I have no doubt that Phil does not want to have to deal with the bios. To that end, and as a accomodatin for all involved, could we say that department chairs could notify the bldg admin that bios have been delivered and that they are starting the selection/placement process. It is important that site supervisors understand and appreciate that for a number of location specific situations all applicants may or may not be placed. Of course every effort will be made to make an appropriate and satisfactory placement by the chairs. Phil has given that initial placement responsibility to chairs and we should respect his decision on this. Consequently, I would expect that going to the building administrator at Ashe, and perhaps Avery would be a very unusual situation.

So, at Ashe, the bios go directly to the department. This statement allows for administration to have knowledge of ASU's request for placements. He does not have to look at them. Entry to a school is always through administration. The statement allows for flexibility. Administration is always involved. Avery and Ashe need to have the same procedure but one that allows for some flexibility by school.These procedures do that.

Linda, In our last mtg. at which Mr.Howell was present, he specifically stated that he did not need or want to see the st tchr bios. Site supervisor should give bios to dept.chairs for placement. Mr.Howell needs #s per dept. and a list of final placements. We respect Avery's position;however, the above is the procedure that our administration wishes to follow. The procedures for 'problems' looks good. Becky
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 Avery has agreed on these procedures. I think we should go with this and move on to the next PDS item. What do you think?


 Procedure for Placement of Student Teachers

1.Bios for student teachers given to School Administrator by Site Supervisor.
2.School Administrator gives bios to Department Chairs for possible assignments (assignments will be based on training and availability of Cooperating Teachers as determined by Department Chairs)
3.Department Chairs and/or Cooperating Teachers may request interview with student teacher before placement
4.Number of placements given to School Administrator for approval
5.Possible placements given to Site Supervisor

Procedure for Dealing with Difficulties During Student Teaching

1.Cooperating Teacher and Student Teacher (Cooperating Teacher may consult with others)
2.Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor
3.Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor, Principal
4.Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor, Principal, Director of Field Experiences

Notes:
•The student teacher may request an advocate of their choice.
•All participants should maintain confidentiality throughout the process.
•The Principal should be notified immediately of severe infractions.

I'm clear on all three days at this point.
Kathy

Feb. 2, 7 & 9: none will work for me. Sorry

Feb. 2 or 9 would be good for me.
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Tuesdays/Thursdays still don't work for me, but I strongly encourage everyone to take the opportunity of having the dean meet the Ashe Group. Good luck!

Please let me know about a meeting today because I need to let the Dean know. Thanks.

So far those are all good dates for me.
marc

How about Feb 2, 7th or 9th for a meeting?

Let's plan our next meeting for early Feb. I'm going to see if the Dean can come to this one. I'll get some possible dates and you all check on that end. Thanks.

Thanks, Linda.I understand. I have never had any misunderstanding regarding placement.
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Calvin,

We are just trying to clarify the procedure at Ashe and Avery so that everyone is aware. Since these are two PDS schools the procedures may be a little different than how students are placed at other schools. We are trying to define these procedures now. Our purpose here is that everyone is working together for the good of the student teacher, the cooperating teacher and the students in their classrooms so as to have a good model for placement. The advisory group is a vehicle that everyone involved can decide on these procedures. The field placement office and the site supervisor are key in helping us to do that so we welcome your suggestions and cooperation.

Thanks, Linda. That looks very good. I thought that was what we were doing.
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Good, Marc, I could vote for that.
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Okay-please clarify this with your principal and I will change it.

Explanation of each step:


Procedure for placement of student teachers.
1. Bio for student teachers given to principal by ASU site supervisor.(The principal would be the first person that should be approached to request the presence of student teachers in his/her school. Any student bios of prospective students would be given to the department chairs to decide availability of placements)

2. Principal gives bios to department chair for possible assignments (assignments will be based on training and availabiltiy of cooperating teacher. Department chairs discuss possible placements with Advisory Group Members and department members. Department chairs may request interview with student teacher before placement. Requests for interviews sent to ASU Site Supervisor).

3. Number of placements given to principal for final approval by department chairs.

4. Possible placements given to ASU site supervisor by principal for placement.

**I hope we can move on from here. Avery has almost accepted this. Let's not rehash it too much

Phil specifically said that the "Bios should go DIRECTLY to the dep't chairs who should make the placements in coordination with the ASU Site Supervisor. Step 2 would then be to notify student teacher placements (by dept' chairs?) to principal for approval of number and placement. Phil was very clear that he wanted oversight, but not Bios, etc. and that ASU Site supervisor(s) should work DIRECTLY with dep't chairs.

If #1 is changed to "Principal approves numbers of st.tchr per department"......should it not be the Principal and Dept. Chair?


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Linda, For purposes of sharing these procedures with cooperating t's and student t's who may not be familiar with PDS terminology, should we consider clarifying "site supervisor" as "ASU site supervisor" to avoid confusion with PDS site coordinator? Might save Alex some unnecessary headaches. Becky
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Linda, shouldn't #3 actually be moved so that it reads:
#1. Principal approves numbers of st.tchr per department.
#2. Site coord. gives Dept. chairperson st tchr bios to determine placement. #3 Dept.chair gives list of final placements to Site coord.
#4 Site coord. gives principal copy of final placements.

I understood Mr.Howell to say that he needed to know and approve # of st tchrs but does not need to see bios.
I'd appreciate any info you come across detailing coteaching strategies. I'd like to continue to look at developing a training model for cooperating teachers. Thanks! Becky
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English Department
Ashe County High School
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Procedure for Dealing with Difficulties in Placement

Step One: Cooperating Teacher and Student Teacher (Cooperating teacher may consult with others)
Step Two: Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor
Step Three: Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor, Principal
Step Four: Cooperating Teacher, Student Teacher, Site Supervisor, Principal, Director of Field Experiences.

The student may request an advocate from his/her department.

The Ashe Advisory Group Met on 1/12/06

Attendance:Phil Howell (Principal), Alex Rollins (site coordinator), Linda McCalister, Marc Gamble, Pat Morrison, Scott Grubb, Becky Wells.
Absent-Carmen Wilson, Kathy Howell, Calvin Miller (site supervisor)
The following decisions were made:

Procedure for placement of student teachers.
1. Bio for student teachers give to principal by site supervisor.
2. Principal gives bios to department chair for possible assignments (assignments will be based on training and availabiltiy of cooperating teacher. Department chairs may request interview with student teacher before placement).
3. Number of placements given to principal for approval.
4. Possible placements given to site supervisor.

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Carmen,

That would be great! Thanks!

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Do you want me to see if Dana can stay in my place?

Carmen Wilson
NBCT and Math Dept. Chair
Ashe County HS
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Howdy All,

After many emails to and from people I have found that Thursday, January 12th is the best day for the most people. Mr. Howell has suggested this is his best date too. Sorry we cannot accommodate everyone.
Please schedule this as our next meeting. Have a great day!

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2006 Student Teacher Meetings

Orientation-General Meeting
Monday-Jan. 9th 1:00-2:30 Blue Ridge Ballroom
Group Meetings-Edwin Duncan Hall

Placement Meeting for Fall Semester
Thursday, Feb. 9-5:00-6:00-Farthing Auditorium

Student Teacher Seminar-Spring 2006
Friday, March 24th 2006 8:30-2:00

Education Career Fair-Spring 2006
Monday, March 27th, 9:00-12:00
Broyhill Conference Center

I teach a class in Caldwell County on Thursdays so I cannot meet on any Thursday. Sandra

I'm not available Jan 12. Jan 17 or 19 are fine.
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I prefer the Tuesday date.

Carmen Wilson
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Any of these dates are good for me.
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12th or 19th.


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Alex, is our masters class going to meet on that first Thursday Jan.12? I'd prefer the Tuesday meeting on the 17th just in case. Thanks, Becky Rebecca C. Wells
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Hey all,

We need to have a January PDS meeting for the month. Please let me know which of the following dates work for you best:
Thursday, Jan. 12th
Tuesday, Jan. 17th
Thursday, Jan. 19th

I will contact Mr. Howell to see which dates are best for him to attend as well. We really need everyone to attend this meeting.
Linda, I will email you back the date we decide to meet.

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I talked with him and he will be getting in touch with you.

I have not heard from my student teacher as of 9:30 on Tuesday morning December 13. Thanks, Becky Rebecca C. Wells
English Department
Ashe County High School
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she did today!

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Pat,

Gayle Weitz who is in charge of placement for art student teachers and interns will be contacting you about possible placements for next semester for internships.

Ashe and Avery student teacher placements for the spring were sent out to students last Thursday. Students have also been encouraged to contact cooperating teachers. If you do not hear from your student teacher let me know. Thanks.

Sorry I didn't get this email earlier! I had heard that Ashe was closing at 1 from colleagues in the math dept. I'll still post some things for you to review, and I look forward to hearing what was discussed.

We will be meeting at 3:15

Linda,

At the moment, it does not look like we will be getting out early. However, I hear the temps are approaching the freezing point (36 degrees at the moment) now.
I'll make a decision from our end by 2:30 if that is not too late for ya'll.
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It is okay here so far. Let me know if Ashe gets out of school and we will see what peole want to do.

I know that if we get much more snow than at Thanksgiving, I may not be able to make it. I'll keep watching the message boards to see what ya'll decide, and if we postpone, I'll post some links to some things I have found. Tracie

Linda,

Good morning! Given the weather forecast for this late morning and early afternoon it might be wise for everyone's traveling benefit to scratch today's meeting at Ashe. Do you agree? And if so, when would like to reschedule?
Let us know,

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This note is to advise everyone that the Partnership budget has been frozen by the state until March or April. This means that I will keep a record of your attendance at meetings and pay you if funds are not reverted back to the state. This has happened once before and we were able to use the funds once they were unfrozen,however; there are no guareentees that this money will remain in my budget. Thanks for your patience and professionalism.

I suspect that new info will be forthcoming at PDS. Previously many of the presentations focused on coteaching the college methods course.

I don't have any but maybe we can all look for a model or work on developing one.

becky,

great idea. i'd like to see any information as well. if there isn't any, maybe we can begin to develop some.
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Linda, Could you bring any info you have regarding training for co-teaching? I'd like to get the ball rolling on creating a mandatory training for all coop t's starting next fall. Thanks, Becky Rebecca C. Wells
English Department
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Reminder
Monday Dec 5th PDS Meeting
3:30
Ashe High School

I think I can make it.
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Department of Mathematical Sciences
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Dec 5 sounds good..

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Monday Dec. 5th is o.k. with me. I appreciate Alex's suggestion, I would hedge that with the proviso that our proposal on the 3100 experiment is accepted for presetnation at the conference.

I can make it on Dec.5.

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English Department
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Works for me.
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Does Ashe plan to sponsor an additional person? The 5th is okay with me.

I have a meeting at ASU on the afternoon of Monday, Dec. 5th.

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Ashe,

I support Marc going to represent us and make mention of his successes in his exchange over to ASU for the 3100 class. The other individual should probably be selected at our next meeting. Which brings me to this point; can everyone meet on Monday, December 5th for our next PDS meeting? Let me know!
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Please check the document link below for the site coordinator's job description. If I do not hear from you this week I will assume that this will suffice. Thanks.


http://www.quicktopic.com/33/D/HEabvGe7EVjig.html

I have received the budget for this year. The Reich College of Education has agreed to support 2 members from the college, 2 participants fron Ashe PDS and two participants from Avery PDS to go to the national PDS Conference. Several of our members will be presenting at the conference.Please call regarding your plane ticket and hotel reservations as soon as possible and give me an estimate of your total costs before making arrangements. We have to work within a tight budget. Thanks.

I think it should be made clear in the framework of the student teaching experience that the classroom teacher is the lead teacher and the student teacher is an "apprentice" to the classroom teacher,even if the teaching philosphy is different. I feel that is our responsibility in the college of education and arts and sciences to relate this to pre-service teachers. A co-teaching model can still incorporate this ideal.

After reading the very good article which Linda posted several ideas rang very true. First of all "co-teaching" is very hard; "throwing them the keys" is much easier.
One of the ideas that comes to mind is that for me, in a rural public school setting, co-teaching and mentoring in general is greatly enhanced by the input of my colleagues within the dep't and in the hunmanities group at large. Additionally, the student teacher must be keenly aware of what you want to do. That being said, has anyone else experienced the situation in which you need to simply be in charge and say this is what we are doing and unfortunately that's the way it is...because I said so?
I would truly appreciate more info on co-teaching.

And yes Alex, provided that our CI 3100 initiative can present, I would be interested in going to the PDS NAt'l convention

All of that will be determined by the budget in November. Everyone should go ahead with proposals at this point.

linda,

how many people are we looking from ashe going to the conference this year? i would be more than happy to let someone new attend the conference (i fear a third trip to orlando, what else can go wrong). who we select of course, will be greatly determined by what we decide to talk about i'm sure.

marc, are you still game on going?

alex

We will not know about budgets until early Nov. for the PDS conference. I suggest that you go ahead and send in proposals as soon as you can. My guess is that there will be support for some of us to attend.

Tracie,

I am trying to download the information from that site and am having difficulty. It may be my computer. Can you copy the info on co-teaching to a word file and email it to me and I will post it to the site. Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I'm still learning quite a bit about the structure of the field experiences at ASU. The handbook that I referenced, though, does include support for "side-by-side" teaching by the mentoring teacher and student teacher. I thought some of the language may help in clarifying what is wanted in the co-teaching model. I'll keep my eyes out for more, though. Sorry for any confusion!

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Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
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Tracie,
Just to clarify a few things. There is a student teaching experience that we call "student teaching" and internships through methods courses that occur earlier than student teaching. In the two PDS schools we are working to enhance both the internship and the student teaching experience because we are finding that many students are not prepared when they enter a high school classroom, regardless of their content knowledge. Traditionally, student teachers at ASU are going into the classroom and observing teachers, then taking over the classroom. What Ashe and Avery are embracing is a model that allows the classroom teacher to co-teach for a period of time before the student takes on the experience of teaching alone. Some are doing that now but we are looking for a good existing model that has been successful.Thanks for your help and input on this. Maybe we all could be looking for a good co-teaching model at this point.

Just wanted to share an example of a handbook from another university that outlines the roles of all participants and other aspects of the internship (what ASU calls student teaching). I think that the descriptions of the roles are pretty good, particularly that of the mentoring teacher (pp. 20-29). This may help give ideas for defining roles at Ashe. I'll continue looking for examples and for info on mentor training.
 
http://web.utk.edu/~cehhsstu/teacher_ed_lic/internship/Mentor Handbook.pdf

Tracie

We are not always successful as teachers; no one is. There often seem to be as many losses and disappointments as there are achievements and movement ahead each year. Our challenge as teacher educators and collaborators working from a social constructivist stance is to work and learn with each new cohort of teacher candidates. Each year, we more confidently take the next group where previous cohorts have taught us to go; however, we also adapt for new struggles brought into our classroom. The diverse histories, beliefs, and experiences of individual teacher candidates, the changing populations and agendas of public schools, and the educational reform movements that buffet all of us must have an impact on teacher educators, or we become stagnant. At the same time, teacher educators must accept the difficulties of their own choices as teachers. For example, we are exploring issues of gender in new ways with our current class. We suspect that males, and some female students, are less engaged by a social constructivist stance that invites students to collaborate and think more deeply about their own learning. We hear it in their chorus of"I just want to do it, not think about it" (see also Bolin, 1990). Many teacher candidates hear the same message from their own students. Together, we now ask: Does a social constructivist stance make sense for all students-in teacher education or in high schools? Without giving up our own principles, how can we adjust to help all students succeed? What then does success look like?

As other teacher researchers attest, our teaching is complicated-but also enhanced-by our role as researchers of our own practice. While we could invite others to study our teaching and present it from an outsider's perspective, two issues drive us to continue with self-study. First, we survive and thrive within a major research institution where we are expected to engage in research as much as teaching and outreach. We manage the time-consuming work of school / university collaborations and co-teaching because the focus of our research is our teaching and collaborations (Boyer, 1990). While we acknowledge the need and seek support for external review of our program and practices, we cannot stop engaging in that examination or in publishing it ourselves. Secondly, teacher educators are noticeably missing as the focus of research literature on learning to teach (Richardson, 1997; Wideen, et. al., 1998). Our own biographies, reflections, decisions, professional development, and stories are important to the field. We have special insights and perspectives that may push the literature in new directions. We believe we also have the obligation to reflect on teaching publicly both with our students and with the profession at large if we, like Richardson (1997), argue that our own "learning cannot be separated from action" (p. 8).

Helping preservice teachers reflect on their own practice demands modeling how we do so ourselves-as well as confronting the moral, political, and emotional implications of putting teaching in doubt (Hargreaves, 1995). Like pulling away the wizard's curtain, we ask teacher candidates to examine their autobiographies and experiences as well as the impact of our teaching on their own learning. They are thrilled to share power, but disheartened, angry, and even in denial to learn that teaching will not be easy. Disequilibrium is both heady and terrifying stuff, especially when many students are also undergoing major life changes: graduation, marriage or children, working with others unlike themselves, first real jobs, family crises (Upcraft, 1996). Generations of teacher educators have bemoaned the power of the apprenticeship of observation (Lortie, 1975) and the pull of tradition on beginners in public schools (Abdal-Haqq, 1998). Yet as Hargreaves says, we too understand that our students' previous teachers and future colleagues are "not personally unskilled or uncaring, but rather people of a particular time and place, shaped and constrained as much by the structures and traditions of secondary schooling as were their students" (p. 10). We hope that by preparing teacher candidates in an honest, bi-cultural approach (Tom, 1999), we help them comprehend and negotiate the realities of the positivistic theories more common in public schools at the same time they deeply understand-as learners-the power of social constructivist approaches to teaching and learning. We clearly need to study how experiences as learners in social constructivist environments impact teachers across their careers (see Loughran & Russell, 1997); however, we also agree with Hargreaves that we must support teachers through the moral, political, and emotional uncertainties of learning to teach in the postmodern era.

Finally, like many teacher educators, we believe that beginning teachers may be more able to confront uncertainty and their own beliefs if they learn to teach within a robust, ecological program (Wideen, et. al., 1998). We strive to provide a consistent message and reinforce it across settings within a supportive environment where it is acceptable to continue learning and growing as a teacher. Arguably, coherence is hampered by traditional structures within universities. While professional development school models work against the limitations of these structures, maintaining new structures can sometimes obfuscate commitment to on-going learning.

We did not realize in 1994 that our request and decision to co-teach all courses across the year would be so critical in designing a school / university collaboration. By examining our own teaching together, we model for teachers-as well as teacher candidates-new, social constructivist roles and possibilities and move beyond our own isolation. While we have focused on our campus classroom for this article, we cannot underestimate the importance of the UGA-NETS mentor teachers as our colearners within our local discourse community. We do not co-teach in a vacuum, but within the context of a powerful group of other teachers, most of whom are equally engaged in self-study and view their work as co-teaching with preservice partners. In short, our teacher candidates are not the only ones who experience uncertainty, challenges to their beliefs, teacher research, or the importance of a community of learners. They see their professors and mentors seeking the same things as part of professional groups. We hope and hypothesize that this preservice taste of what Hargreaves (1995) calls desire-including creativity, spontaneity, connections to students, fulfillment, accomplishment, and closeness to others-will be addictive enough to create a new kind of teacher.

We recognize that our teaching collaboration is special. While co-teaching has generally been portrayed positively in the literature (Anderson & Speck, 1998; Cruz & Zaragoza, 1998), it is very difficult to enact. As Anderson and Speck suggest, success depends upon compatibility, similar vision and teaching philosophy, a collaborative style, mutual respect, and a collective goal to share power with other teachers and with students. Constantly critiquing one's own practice is much easier with a long-term partner who challenges your thinking, provides alternative interpretations and ideas, and shares a history of collaboration with over 100 student cases. Examining one's own teaching in front of a wide range of public audiences is difficult and not yet widely accepted within the university. By doing so, however, we offer new models of teaching and learning for preservice and experienced teachers. We also satisfy our own professional longing for challenge and fulfillment as teachers. In the long-term, we hope to push the limits of knowing in teacher education itself

References

Abdal-Haqq, I. (1998). Professional development schools: Weighing the evidence. (Critical Issues in Teacher Education series of AACTE). Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin Press.

Anderson, R.S., & Speck, B.W. (1998). "Oh what a difference a team makes": Why team teaching makes a difference. Teaching and Teacher Education, 14 (7), 671-686. Austin, A.E. & Baldwin, R.G. (1992). Faculty collaboration: Enhancing the quality of

scholarship and teaching. Washington, DC: Georgia Washington University, Office of Educational Research and Improvement, ERIC Document Reproduction Service No. ED 347 958).

Blackstone, S. (1999). Think pieces: Connecting school and campus learning. In P. Graham, S. Hudson-Ross, C. Adkins, P. McWhorter, & J. Stewart (Eds.), Teacher/mentor: A dialogue for collaborative inquiry (pp. 113-122). New York: Teachers College Press and the National Council of Teachers of English.

Bolin, F.S. (1990). Helping student teachers think about teaching: Another look at Lou. Journal of Teacher Education, 41 (1), 10-19.

Boyer, E.L. (1990). Scholarship revisited: Priorities for the professoriate. Princeton, NJ: The Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching.

Good article on co-teaching

http://www.findartic les.com/p/articles/mi_qa3960/is_200010/ai_n8905488/pg_6

Howdy All,

Please remember, there is a PDS meeting today at 3:25 in the conference room. If anyone has any thing to be added to the agenda please inform Linda.
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Linda,

So sorry for replying so late to this message. Unfortunately, I will not be able to come the Ashe PDS meeting tomorrow, October 18th.

Sincerely,
Max Dass

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Welcome to the Ashe Advisory Group Thelma!

Committee,

We have a new member, Mrs. Thelma Kastle who is our Technology Education teacher here at Ashe County High School. Linda, if you need to contact her and/or add her to quick topic her email is tkastle@ashe.k12.nc.us.
Thanks,
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Alex, I will call you around 3:00 to talk about the agenda

linda,

our school day ends at 3:20. i don't think it is feasible to meet any earlier than 3:25.
thanks,
alex

i would also like to entertain a couple of things if i could be put on the agenda.



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Could we meet sooner than 3:25? Marc, you can be first on the agenda

Mountain Valley Conference championship XC meet is that afternoon in Yadkinville. Feeling a certain obligation to both events of that day (my daughter runs XC)I will try to do both, but would need to leave asap, As the agenda develops, could I be near the top? Thanks.

I think I can go too.

I can definitely go.


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Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
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Okay, Ashe PDS Advisory Group Meeting October 18th at 3:25. Max, Sandra, Mark, Tracie, Marie, Robert, etc.. Can any of you attend on this day? I will have a state car.

Ashe Teachers,

obviously, the 24th is out for us all given it's our early release day.
pat can't meet on any day but the 18th. i have to work a volleyball game that day but if we get done by 4:15 i should be alright. we should of course meet immediately after school at 3:25 if we select this date. anybody any other issues? if not, i'll email linda (or she can read it) that we will shoot for the 18th of this month.
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Tracie Salinas, a math professor in the math department at ASU, is interested in working with PDS schools. I have added her to our discussion group and she would like to attend a future meeting. Welcome Tracie!

You all decide the best day for you as a group and Alex let me know. Thanks.

18th is only day available for me.


Pat Kincheloe Morrison
Ashe County High School
Art / Ceramics
336-246-2400 (school)
336-877-5715 (home)

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The 11th or 18th works best for me. I can only stay until 4:15 on the 26th. Becky Rebecca C. Wells
English Department
Ashe County High School
(336) 246-2400

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24th is our parent conference day...
I can't meet on the 18th.

Carmen Wilson
NBCT and Math Dept. Chair
Ashe County HS
West Jefferson, NC

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11th, 18th, 24th, 26th Let me know as soon as you can as these dates will fill up quickly

Linda,

I have talked to several teachers here on our end and I feel like we should have a meeting this month. Let me know some dates that work well with you.
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I agree.

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Art / Ceramics
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I like this plan. It keeps everyone in the loop, yet allows for flexability within the individual system

Good thought Pat. Documentation is a good way to share the conversation/results with admin. and is essential. Is there agreement that seperating content problems and "other" problems works best? My student teacher categorized S.T. problems into three groups: Drugs, Sex and Rock and Roll...
Its been real.

1. Student Teacher and Cooperating Teacher
2. Student Teacher, Cooperating Teacher (anyone else depending on the severity and where help is needed)
-academic problem(department chair, site supervisor, content supervisor)
-other ( cooperating teacher, site supervisor,PDS supervisor, administrator)
3. Director of Field Experiences/Site Supervisor/ Student

*The principal will be notified at all levels and may sit in on any meeting. Each meeting should be documented.

looks good....include continual documentation of each, as well as any other contacts related to issue (this may already be included somewhere!).
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Ya'll are doing great with the Q-topic. If we get this resolved we can count this as a meeting (with stipend). Just keep it up. I am hearing what you all are saying and it seems that we are on the same page at this point. How does the plan look below. Remember that this has to be flexible enough to fly with Avery also. Check with you principal and see what he thinks.




1. Student Teacher and Cooperating Teacher
2. Student Teacher, Cooperating Teacher (anyone else depending on the severity and where help is needed)
-academic problem(department chair, site supervisor, content supervisor)
-other ( cooperating teacher, site supervisor,PDS supervisor, administrator)
3. Director of Field Experiences/Site Supervisor/ Student

*The principal will be notified at the 1st level and may sit in on any meeting.

In my experience, administrators hate surprises.

I would say that the school administrator could be notified and aware at any of these points or be a part of a meeting. These steps would not be to exclude but to include a core group of people. The aministrator is key to having the student in the buiding in the first place but would probably want minor issues resolved before they end up on his/her desk. Any administrators want to chime in here?

i agree with pat. i think the school administration should be notified more quickly that we have considered. i am confident that they would want to know about any potential "hazardous" situations prior to them manifesting.
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I think administration should be given a choice of involvement and be aware of positive and also negative academic situations. If something "blew up" into something that reflects badly on the school later, I think administration would like to have known what was going on.
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I agree with Linda; the administrator does not need to be bothered with academic issues.

Would an adminstrator be interested in an academic problem at the second level. Seems that could be accomplished by others and he/she would prefer to work with other problems-drugs, personality conflict, relationship with students etc.

linda's latest incarnation of the process is sound. The idea of having a core group for the "incident" or "situation" with a variety of other people to include depending upon the nature/severity of the case is workable and streamline. However, I would make the "administrator" available for either content or "other" situations. The only problem I see is that inevitably, someone who is left out of the process (and could have been included) will feel as though the deck was stacked for one reason or another. Just a thought.
Good work advisory groups. One other thought, should prospective teachers (i.e App students) have a say in this? Sorry, but once you've occupied an administration bldg. it stays in your blood! And hopefully, Becky Griggith, my typing is beyyer!
Marc

Administrator is listed

Aren't we going to include the school principal anywhere?Rebecca C. Wells English Department
Ashe County High School
(336) 246-2400

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 Do we need to include people at each level just for the sake of including them? Seems if we have two or three people at each level and others to choose from if needed we could simplify this process. The choice of people would depend on the situation and the people involved but could basically be the following:

1. Student Teacher and Cooperating Teacher
2. Student Teacher, Cooperating Teacher (anyone else depending on the severity and where help is needed)
-academic problem(department chair, site supervisor, content supervisor)
-other ( cooperating teacher, site supervisor,PDS supervisor, administrator)
3. Director of Field Experiences/Site Supervisor/ Student

Who is "site supervisor", Dr. Miller?
What about including the content area supervisor?


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I'm trying to use the KISS principle

What about...
Step One: Student Teacher and Cooperating Teacher (Content Area supervisor and department chair if needed)
Step Two: Student Teacher, Cooperating Teacher, PDS coordinator, site supervisor.
Step Three:Student Teacher, Cooperating Teacher,site supervisor, and an administrator)
Step 4: Site supervisor, student and field director

I agree with Marc that site administration needs to be in the communication loop early.

Excellent thoughts. Linda's last suggestion has merit; I agree with Avery that dep't. chairs are a key to early intervention. Additionally, School administrators need to be involved or at least made aware at every level, since should a Due Process question (God forbid) become litigious, the principal would be in an awkward position.

These are postings on a framework for dealing with problem students that we have discsses at Avery. I think we want to stay simple and effective and make sure that there is due process along the way. The last posting shows flexibility where needed. What do you think?

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Here's what Linda proposed:
Proposed Problem Solving Hierarchy:
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>A.Student Teacher and Classroom Teacher
>B.Student Teacher,Classroom Teacher, Content Area Supervisor
>C.Student Teacher, Classroom Teacher, Content Area Supervisor, RCOE Supervisor and Site
>Coordinator
>D.Student Teacher, Classroom Teacher,RCOE Site Supervisor and School Administration
>E.Student Teacher, RCOE Site Supervisor, and ASU Associate Dean for Field
>Experiences
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I feel the following might be better for Avery:
A. student teacher and cooperating teacher
B. student teacher, cooperating teacher, and RCOE site supervisor (I think the site supervisor would be better in this situation because he/she is frequently in the school and would have a better "feel" for Avery, our policies, and what goes on in each classroom. Plus the RCOE site supervisor frequently talks with each cooperating teacher)
C. student teacher, cooperating teacher, RCOE site supervisor, and site coordinator, which in our case would include Joe Weld.
D. student teacher, cooperating teacher, RCOE site supervisor, site coordinator, and school administration. This would complete the use of all of our resources at Avery.
E. student teacher, cooperating teacher, RCOE site supervisor, site coordinator, school administration, and content area supervisor.
F. student teacher, cooperating teacher, RCOE site supervisor, site coordinator, school administration, content area supervisor, and ASU Associate Dean for Field Experiences.
I note on Linda's list that the cooperating teacher and all other Avery personnel are left out of the last step. I believe it is important for these people to have a say in every meeting. I'm fine with some documentation, but remember that we're already swamped with paperwork. The documentation should be a checklist with minimal additions.
One other idea I'm just tossing out: here at Avery, Department Chairs are very involved with the teachers in their departments. I believe we are all hands-on, and teachers usually go to the Department Chairs when there is a problem of any kind. I know some things are best limited to as few people as possible, but should Department Chairs at least be notified that something is happening in their departments? Should they have a role?
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Great dialogue here. Since we are working to include the content area supervisor in this process and in evaluations of the student teacher I think they should be involved, if possible, at early levels. I agree that the area department chair should be included. I don't think that was mentioned in our meeting. My reasoning for dropping people off at the end is because I am not sure everyone would or want to be involved at each level. I assume that the door would be open for anyone who wanted or needed to as the problem progressed along each level. However, I really can't see anyone going through this much of a process.

Here is another idea and rationale at each level:
Level 1- Student Teacher and Classroom Teacher(Department chair and/or site ccordinator can be included if needed here.)This is where a majority of problems are solved and typically more than one session with a candidate may take place.)
B.Student Teacher,Classroom Teacher, Department chair Content Area Supervisor, RCOE supervisor, Site Coordinator
and School Administration. (Any of these people may be involved as needed)
>E.Student Teacher, RCOE Site Supervisor, and ASU Associate Dean for Field (others may be involved at this level as needed)

At Wednesdays Meeting we need to revisit the core beliefs and the gaols for this group. Although I know that we have stated and met many of our goals we need to do this in a formal way to see the direction we need to go in next. Here is our last iteration from 2004:

Ashe PDS Working Mission Statement

The Ashe-Appalachian Professional Development School (PDS) is a community of practitioners and reseachers who promote continuing professional development for pre-service teachers, practicing classroom teachers and university faculty and who work collaboratively to improve instruction and enhance student learning.

Beliefs
1. Collaboration will enhance learning.
2. All stakeholders should be accountable for upholding
   professional standards for teaching and learning (this is
   my idea to match up to the second PDS standard. What do
   you think?)