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SnowedPerson was signed in when posted  1778
11-06-2009 10:19 AM ET (US)
Great Post Dave!
Al  1779
11-07-2009 06:21 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-07-2009 06:23 AM
/m1777 Above almost every post on these boards. The fact is...the fools stumble all over themselves to try to JUSTIFY or somehow condone a flagrant action/attitude...that in the end you caused enough backlash to settle the score. I never doubted EEO was all about getting even, never ending in any monetary or other worthy justice.

COULD YOU IMAGINE IF EVERY EMPLOYEE TREATED PATHETICLY BY A STOOGE MANAGER WAS TO FILE AN EEO EACH TIME...EVERY TIME?
old clerkPerson was signed in when posted  1780
11-07-2009 09:16 PM ET (US)
The whole EEO system is a FRAUD. They never had me fooled for a minute and I told them so. No matter how you try to slice they are paid by the USPS. Directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter!
DirtyDavePerson was signed in when posted  1781
11-08-2009 01:42 PM ET (US)
Al, can you imagine any postal manager having to have themselves continually inundated by paperwork? I personally can. I leveled the playing field many times by giving postal managers "homework" and "extra duties." I turned in over 100 Employee Suggestions during 28 years and most of the 55 which were adopted, dealt with legitimate postal and federal agency, general safety issues.
I eventually realized supervisors and managers were also subject to the same rules and regulations which applied to all postal employees, so submitting 20 suggestions at a time was no big deal for me.
One supervisor who I eventually became able to make literate, thought he could discourage me by saying: "your idea is not economically feasible." I took that for a very short time because the, then, director of personnel was a diligent and honest fellow postal employee who appreciated any employee who had anything constructive and worthy of their own personal time to submit through established postal channels, respectfully serious. The director had the supervisor provide me with respectful and considerate reasons, in specific detail as to why my suggestion did not merit adoption.
This supervisor patronizedd me from then on and made extra effort not to provoke me. ( The supervisor felt I was punishing them!) In other words, since I would not hesitate to submit suggestions, the supervisor mistakenly patronized me at every opportunity since they only assumed I submitted them to make trouble for them.
They were sadly mistaken and their vocabulary improved as a direct result. I submitted them out of my personal concerns for making the post office a more safe and tolerable place to wear out my body for money.
The same could be said of EEOs. I turned Legitimate EEOs in every time I felt the necessity was justified.
Whereas, EEOs are like trying to "beat the house" in a poker game, enough of them usually manage to improve certain situations when nothing else seems to work, so I therefore encourage employees to assert their rights as responsible employees who have the right for redress, to file an EEO.
It costs the post office a great deal of time, resources, manpower, and money, to defend agaisnt employee allegations and in many instances, EEOs are the only means for an employee to assure the post office they will not tolerate abuse.
I know the post office, predictably, managed to lobby the government to place a "ceiling" on the amount of compensatory damages, for any liabilities legally assessed against the postal service, so the argument that a person "EEOs" for the money, is superfluous.
Knock standing up for yourself all you want, but are you a man or a mouse?

I hope you are able to see my position objectively and with realistic expectations.

Respectfully,

Dave Kirtley
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