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broom and bored  457
04-22-2008 10:42 PM ET (US)
Heads up for all you fools out there who voted for Fuqua. Rick's latest rim-ripping to maintenance on his way out is a good example of the MOMTEAM way of doing business.

Remember all, Fuqua is a Ricky-creation, a MOMTEAM member. It is bad enough that we have 3 MOMTEAM members taking over officer positions. That is a tragedy in itself. Now you have seen the heart of MOM, and how it DOES NOT have the best interests of our members in mind. The E-Board will have enough to contend with, with the thieving, selfish and covetous WIll Tagart taking up enormous amounts of space and taking our money, A clerk Director who is going to need to go to immediate training and then mentor for a year with Tammy Yorysh before he is able to even serve as an Asst Director, and A trustee who is busy pencilling in all her free conventions trips on her pocket calendar, making big eyes at the guys at work, but other than that, is dumb as a rock and will have to have Joanne or Vito hold her hand during audits.

Lets not put a psycho-angry weirdo like Fuqua in there too.

You just saw what MOM did to your 10/4 program. Don't put another untrustworthy MOMTEAM member on the e-board. Go with the independant, Clark Moody. He won't rip off of hurt our local or its members. It was a no brainer before but, now even those who had blinders on before had got to be taken them off and seen the real light of day.

You Can't trust MOM. Rick proved it yesterday.
san diego  456
04-22-2008 08:48 PM ET (US)
oh lou you out there? you lost your 10-4 happy now?
san diego  455
04-22-2008 06:48 PM ET (US)
LOOK WHAT THE DICTATOR HAS DONE JUST BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE.

think larry had anything to do with this?


Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Operation: Burn and Pillage
Rick Cornelius is busier now than he has been in the past several months. There is much to be done before turning over the keys to the union to the incoming president. With 8 days left in office, your Dictator is hard at work, making sure that every good thing he can destroy, is destroyed.

On Monday, April 21, 2008, your benevolent Dictator sent two edicts to Postal Management. The first one, sent to Senior Plant Manager, did away with the Tour Steward Program, effective immediately.

The second edict, also to the Plant Manager, did away with Maintenance's popular 10/4 program. Two excellent programs, designed to help the membership, trashed and destroyed by an outgoing dictator who looks to punish the membership for not re-electing him.

We already know that Will Tagart had wanted the Tour Steward Program done away with 2years ago, even though he had been a tour steward himself and was aware of the advantages to the people in having a program that allowed full time stewards to represent the membership. Is this an example of how Will Tagart is going to help sabatage the union and its work in the future? Did Will encourage Rick to kill the program on his way out the door? Did he also encourage his former "boss" to also stick a knife in Maintenance's 10/4 program? Did MOMTEAM member Larry Fuqua, who is currently running for the Asst Maintenance Director Program, encourage Cornelius to kill their program, or did Cornelius decide to cancel this program on his own?

Concerned members are encouraged to call the union office and demand to speak to their outgoing dictator for answers.

What else will Dictator Rick Cornelius, with the advice of goons Tagart, Fuqua, and who knows what other clown, destroy in his remaining week as the worst president this local has ever had?

Stay tuned. He's probably not done screwing this local, and its members, just yet.
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted  454
04-18-2008 09:20 PM ET (US)
Marion  453
04-18-2008 09:39 AM ET (US)
/451 I will answer your what about Larry D. Sturgeon. I have never met or heard of this gentleman before. But, from what I was able to find just here on this board was that he was a postal employee who cared about his job. That he retired back in 2006 and had a life outside of the Postal Service. So I believe that Rita in post /447 was informing his friends and former co-workers about his untimely death.
not in  452
04-18-2008 06:00 AM ET (US)
i need a carrier question answered.
me  451
04-17-2008 11:59 PM ET (US)
/m447 Who's that?
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted  450
04-17-2008 06:32 PM ET (US)
/m449 check with your in-plant support. all colors will be based on a 4pm arrival.
ethel  449
04-17-2008 04:07 PM ET (US)
what new color coding??
CinnamonGrrl  448
04-17-2008 03:05 PM ET (US)
The volumne was really down on tax night. What was it like in the rest of the country? What does everyone think of the new colour coding that is suppose to start on the 28th?
Rita  447
04-15-2008 03:55 PM ET (US)
Larry D. Sturgeon died March 23, 2007 in Pekin, IL
Observer  446
04-11-2008 11:25 PM ET (US)
/445 BlueLightSpecial... Maybe it will.. Maybe it won't... Depends on how the children act.
BlueLightSpecial  445
04-11-2008 04:13 PM ET (US)
I hope this election puts an end to the constant public display of the disfunction in this local.
giving information  444
04-10-2008 09:33 PM ET (US)
Election Results
The results of the voting for the San Diego
Area Local is:

President
Tom Wood----475
Rick Cornelius---378

Executive Vice President
Jim Roland-----295
Gwen Wills----251
William Tagart---305

Secretary-Treasurer
Millie Reece----485
Allan Tardif----335

Recording Secretary
Eddie Cooper, Jr----474
Ester Francisco----358

Director Clerk Craft
Tammy Yorysh----288
Leonard Alexander-318

Asst Director Clerk Craft
Sandi Shoultz----316
Brendan Barbosa---286

Director Maintenance Craft
Hector Baez----73
Randy Sollinger---65

Asst Director Maintenance Craft
Clark Moody-----55*
Derrick Thompson---27
Larry Fuqua----55*

*Because these two candidates tied
a run-off election will be conducted
with only Clark Moody and Larry Fuqua
participating.

Director Motor Vehicle Craft
Ed Knipe (Unopposed)

Asst Director Motor Vehicle Craft
Dave Watier----60
Brandon Livingston---11

Trustee (4 Positions)
Merle Sprankles----159
Carol Arnold----156
Ismael Pepe Gomez----357*
Joyce Bremner---336
Vito Scurto----427*
Joanne Holiday---442*
Joy Abarabar----390*
Valerie Wainscott---311
Diana Roque----341
Mike DeRosiers----289

* Denotes the winners of
the 4 Trustee Positions

If you cast your ballot, thank you
for participating in this election.
If you didn't vote, don't complain
about the results!
giving information  443
04-09-2008 11:20 PM ET (US)
giving information  442
04-09-2008 04:38 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-09-2008 04:38 PM
https://liteblue.usps.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/.scr/Login

https://liteblue.usps.gov

copy and paste above link
giving information  441
04-09-2008 04:36 PM ET (US)
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giving information  440
04-09-2008 04:35 PM ET (US)
giving information  439
04-09-2008 04:35 PM ET (US)
giving information  438
04-09-2008 04:34 PM ET (US)
giving information  437
04-09-2008 04:33 PM ET (US)
giving information  436
04-09-2008 04:33 PM ET (US)
Observer  435
04-09-2008 01:06 AM ET (US)
egark /m434 maybe then the word "public" should be changed to something that better describes it then like "open" meeting.
egarkPerson was signed in when posted  434
04-08-2008 09:17 PM ET (US)
Observer /m433 -- can somebody just walking down the street that day come in to the meeting? Do the wives, friends, etc. have the right to be there or are they just allowed? Can anyone join the union? The answers to all these questions are "no." Union meetings are not public meetings.
Observer  433
04-08-2008 01:58 PM ET (US)
egark /m431 from the San Diego meetings I have seen I would say yes that anyone could come to them that had an interest in them. Because I have seen wives, family members, friends, and non-member coworkers come to these meeting. Each came for different reasons. Maybe like wife to be with the husband. Older child to do research work on how a meeting is held or to find out about a Union for a school project. Non-members coworkers to see if they want to join our local. (some have joined)

But, the only time the meeting has been a non-public meeting has been when charges are going to be read and the members are to decide about what to do with the trial board verdict. Then at the meeting the non-members have been asked to step outside to wait until this has been completed. Afterwards, non-members have been let back in to the local's meeting.
Bonhoeffer  432
04-07-2008 06:54 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-07-2008 06:54 PM
Are you wanted by the FBI? Have you performed criminal activities under your name? If not then why not reveal it? It can't be worse then Englbert Humperdink. Unless, you are saying that you can be held accountable for any activity or writing that you do on these posts.You've admitted you lied ( in a very flippant fashion)and you still seek to obfuscate your identity. When the curtain was pulled away from the Wizard of Oz he was found out to be a fraud. Step away from the curtain and masks. On some level people would say this is all childishness the inability to identify yourself.

I will answer your question regarding experience. First, I think everyone can agree that are some shop stewards and officials who have been involved with the Union forever who are less then competent. Heck, we have a presidential candidate who is being dinged for not having run a large corporation, not having been an ambassador and has minimal time in politics. The other candidate is seen as having too much experience and this is translated as being too old. I think the President of the US is a little more important then the position that Larry is running for.

What has to be looked at is what do these candidates bring to the table. Larry is a very intelligent man who has many interests beside surfing. He has been subjected to a great many indignities under the CS regime. We all know of co-workers who get away with many illegalities and who are never busted. Larry was on every maintenance supervisor's hit list for even the most trival offense. He understands that supervision does not appreciate or even recognize the individual. That management can and will be abusive. Larry is tenacious about correcting wrongs and he has never afraid to hold people's feet to the iron. While some shop stewards hem and haw and act just plain obsequious to managemnt -Larry will change the status quo. Sometimes things have to be shakened up. So experience is not the always the be all and end all.

The elections close on April 10 and I hope everyone votes. I am also hoping that "San Diego" does the right thing and tells us who they are - Marion and I did it. I don't know when I will post next but I say again thank you for your patience. The internet is a fascinating place but it must be used responsibly. I was always amazed at stings that the police conducted trying to catch child abusers on line. I now see how easy it is to hide and misrepresent one's identity. Words and meanings take on new slants which I investigated in my own social experiment.

You know there is a price of admission to a Union meeting. It is not cheap you have to sign up to be a member and have the money deducted from your salary. That is why I wondered why there was any question regarding whether or not a union meeting was a public function.
egarkPerson was signed in when posted  431
04-07-2008 06:49 AM ET (US)
san diego /m430 -- can anybody walk into the meeting? If not then it is not "public." Every state has public meeting laws are they are all pretty much the same. Here's is Oregon's: http://www.open-oregon.com/New_Pages/192-610.shtml
san diego  430
04-06-2008 08:20 PM ET (US)
Ya I lied! If you want to say I did not reveal my name, but I am revealing my screen name, (see above) because I never said I would reveal my birth name.

Now answer me this. how can someone who has NEVER been a shop steward, been to 6 or 7 union meetings have any qualification to be our assistant maintenance craft director?

next time I pass you in the hallway I will say hi.

By the way Randy is NOT the steward who handled Larry's out of schedule grievance. It was a female who ricky fired! Larry told me so! And I have asked Larry to thank her but he changed the subject!

egark could you post some references as there are public people at these meetings (ie spouses who are non-members).
egarkPerson was signed in when posted  429
04-06-2008 05:19 PM ET (US)
Marion /m428 -- a union meeting is not a "public meeting" in the sense of those laws. Public meetings are town councils, school boards, etc.
Marion  428
04-06-2008 01:36 PM ET (US)
Kitty you asked me in /425 a question concerning the legality. Yes, that video was on the up and up. Also, according to Federal and State laws "public meetings" maybe recorded by anyone and seen by anyone. The earlier part of the meeting that was concerning the trial board and their findings concerning the actions of Rick Cornelius was in a closed meeting for members only. I was there at that meeting and voted to uphold the finding of the trial board. Unfortunately, there was to many individuals voted to disregard the findings of the trial board. So Rick Cornelius was not held accountable for his actions at our local. Instead, it has now been sent up to National to be reviewed and hopefully to have the proper action taken on it.
Bonhoeffer  427
04-06-2008 11:00 AM ET (US)
What do I see another message from San Diego. Well, Marion this individual is apparently playing for the same side you are but do take note this person does not keep their word. Said he would come out of the closet with his name. Did you see a name? I gave my name and still he didn't. He will use the name to threaten me but stays safe in his annoymous state. It is really easy to spout off about anything when you have no fear of it being brought back to your own door. Man has no understanding of the words, honor, integrity or even loyalty. I mention loyalty becuase a loyal person will stand by you no matter what it takes regardless of the personal cost. San Diego's hide is obviously so valuable to him he can't even honor his word to say who he is. The word that applies to San Diego is LIAR. So ignore his posts obviously he has lied once in these postings so his word cannot be trusted. Called me Bonhoeffer (Lou) in /m415. And the actual phrase was :" And Bonhoeffer when you admit who you are then I will." /m415.

The steward who got Larry the money was Randy Sollinger and he is on the ticket. So who the heck San Diego is fabricating as the steward? It is just another indication of his mendacious personality.

Yeah, I am a friend of Larrys. San Diego do you remember the phrase, "Judge not lest you be judged." Everything you stated was your opinion which you can have but you still performed a nasty act. No one in this lifetime doesn't have skeletons in their closet. Larry never personally wounded/hurt you but you have made it personal because you have "judged him" and found him not worthy. All this done in secret without him knowing who you are. I take my hat off to you apparently you can walk on water and were crucified for mankind's sins. Hey, what would the real Jesus do? Would he judge as harshly as you?

Toot-toot-tootsie goodbye Kittykat aka Black Hole. Let us see if she keeps her word about saying good bye. She's a liar too. Just note the exact phrasing of my comment to her. Then tell me she didn't read it. Timing is everything.The creative writing and social experiment will now end as well. Sorry about the crudeness.Again, Hasta La Vista, Baby. I know I am repeating myself but oh what a great line and a fairly decent flick.

And no, I am not going all religious on everyone only on those who have the odor of pious sanctity that they have no business to.

My apologies to those who are asking true postal questions for taking so much of your time. Hope you all are having a great weekend.
^*^*^  426
04-06-2008 12:31 AM ET (US)
/m422 You could look around your neighboring offices and see if there is a PMR you could borrow occasionally to keep you under 40.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  425
04-05-2008 11:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-05-2008 11:09 PM
he enjoys playing chess. thanks for the background info as to what is going on out there. i must confess that once i see bonnie's name i pass directly over the message. he enjoys posting and i enjoy ignoring. frankly THOMAS BEATIE IS MORE OF A MAN THAN BONNIE BLUE BALLS WILL EVER HOPE TO BE. i hope your ticket wins the election. this is my final post here so i shall say "bon voyage" and happy sailing to you san diego. you have my respect. larry is a dunce. no wonder bonnie loves him. 2 peas in a pod. good luck 'cuz you're going to need it. P.S. Marion Williams posted the union meeting on you-tube. was that on the up and up? is it legal to do that? you know how curious cats are.
san diego  424
04-05-2008 09:56 PM ET (US)
kitty I can answer part of the question.
125 Nate Colbert San -- San Diego Padres
same places call it as below.
1974 Topps #125A - Nate Colbert SD
the second part I give up.

as far as naming Bonhoeffer (Lou) I will not rat him out all the way except to say part of his name is listed. now as far as knowing who he is I will say he was at work today 4-5-08 on overtime and at 10:39 am pacific time he was on the post office computer and I was watching him. also he has training on 4-14-08 to 4-16-08 for image IJP and he is an ET. and he is on a 4-10 work schedule with fri, sat & sun as non-scheduled days sunday is the extra day.

Now why do I have such a problem with larry. larry has been employed by the post office a long time he started out as a security guard in the 80's. Transferring to maintenance in the lated 80's never attending any Union meetings until late 2007 and only after winning a large sum of money from a grievance. now larry won this money by a shop steward who did a great job of writing up this grievance in early 2000's. when ricky got elected (by 30 votes ) in 2005 ricky FIRED this great steward! then low and behold larry gets a letter from ricky in mid 2007 about winning this grievance. because of this larry believes that ricky won larry this money! did larry ever ask about the steward who processed this grievance? no all larry believes is that ricky won larry money. mickey mouse's name could have been on that grievance settlement letter and larry would now love him. larry does NOT understand that all grievance settlement (or any correspondence for that matter) letters are addressed to the current president of the local.

larry believes that attending several Union meetings and winning ONE grievance entitles him to be my maintenance assistant craft director. I DO NOT! Larry also believes that because he has so much discipline against him he will be-able to represent me if and when I get into trouble. I DO NOT THINK SO!

The ballots will be counted on April 10, 2008.
flyingwhitedovePerson was signed in when posted  423
04-05-2008 09:14 PM ET (US)
I don't know but you can try and ask here.

http://www.quicktopic.com/39/H/wZbL23EJyhJ8i
karen  422
04-05-2008 08:10 PM ET (US)
PMR as OIC question: Do PMR's who become OIC at their office get a pay increase? I was told this is not the case. I am filling in for the PM @ a 16 PO for nine months and have been told I am not entitled to any raise in pay. The last MPOO, three weeks ago, gave me OIC status.
I am making $10.50/hr. Also was told to be creative in not having OT. It is a six day week... nine hour day five days a week, four hours on Saturday??? Any suggestions?
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  421
04-05-2008 07:15 PM ET (US)
one more trivia question for you san diego and you get 48 hours for this. what is the number of Nate Colbert's 1974 Topps baseball card? and according to the back, what does he enjoy playing? this is tough.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  420
04-05-2008 02:41 PM ET (US)
hey san diego.............have you had any luck identifying the mop monkey yet? just look for the scumbag with the dictionary in his back pocket. when are the elections?
Bonhoffer  419
04-05-2008 01:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-05-2008 01:57 PM
Just a question, KittyKat aka Black Hole. I dissed you mightly and yet you came back for more. Looking at you from the perspective of through a microscope anyone can see you are really quite strange. Most women would tell you where to go if they had someone talked to them in a similar fashion. Many would ignore the individual as being beneath them but no not you, you come back for more. Apparently, you have little or no self esteem or your comprehension of the written word is nil.

It is ironic that you mention "pushing buttons" because you rise like a trout to the fly to any suggestion. I say go Padres and off you go running to start talking sports. Someone insists that Larry is me and you waste energy and effort to taunt me. Really made you appear quite ludicrous since I am not Larry.

Do you really believe you are an animal? Telling San Diego, "two paws up" should he be worried about your ideal of animal husbandry. So now I'll give you a shot and bet you come back for more abuse. Hey, Black Hole aka KittyKat , at least with San Diego you won't need to replace your bag for your face because sodomy rarely requires face to face interplay. As to being a stuffed shirt, this type of conversation would automatically disqualify an individual. Again, learn to capitilize, write complete sentences and be aware of proper usage of phrases. Amazing, you freak about misspellings and prove yourself to be anal retentive about it, not to mention boring. I'm sure we all want to see how many times you can write: "Define...." Vacuous individuals need to repeat themselves. So as a social experiment let us see KittyKat come back for more abuse. Oh, and at least more sports trivia which she learned performing bjs in a sports bar. Hey, don't worry San Diego you can always find her phone number in the local Citigo men's bathroom. Watch, here she comes can you say "abbynormal".
Bonhoffer  418
04-05-2008 01:39 PM ET (US)
San Diego,

You still haven't identified yourself in any way . Guess that statement of yours was a pure fabrication.

Would you like some cheese? Let the rest of us know when you and your little goil friend have quit playing. Perhaps you should switch to ESPN chat room. Que lastima, the two of you are bonding mano y mano. Give the rest of us a break - sports triva is not intellectually stimulating . They don't have a Nobel Prize yet for that. I stand corrected perhaps for barflys it is challenging to see if you can handle figures while you kill your brain cells.

As to it being private again use your common sense and decency if you have any. It wasn't cool what you did. If you were Larry's jilted lover, ex-wife (and no I am not slighting you just examples),or someone he beat up then yeah, ok, spite. But unless he personally did you dirt then what you did was nasty. Larry doesn't waste a lot of time on anyone so I'm curious, how did he harm you?

Who really cares about the Padre Payroll if you live in Hossier country, or are a Razorback patron. Now let us see you talk hockey? What about those Ducks? Not really just kidding.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  417
04-04-2008 09:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-04-2008 09:58 PM
/m310 and /m331 check out the spelling of the poster's name. what the "L" happened? and /m330 and /m331 the relationship went from "loath to respond" to a love fest. ROTFLMFAO. WAFAH. YCTTTTB.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  416
04-04-2008 08:31 PM ET (US)
excellent. i saw this in the Wed. USA Today paper............the salaries for 2008. i guess i can't trick you. keep up the good work.
san diego  415
04-04-2008 08:22 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-04-2008 08:24 PM
PADRES' 2008 PAYROLL
Greg Maddux $10,000,000
Brian Giles 9,666,667
dl-Jim Edmonds 8,000,000
Trevor Hoffman 7,500,000
Jake Peavy 6,500,000
Randy Wolf 4,750,000
Khalil Greene 4,500,000
Tadahito Iguchi 3,850,000
Michael Barrett 3,500,000
Chris Young 2,625,000
Josh Bard 2,237,500
dl-Mark Prior 1,000,000
Tony Clark 900,000
Adrian Gonzalez 875,000
Glendon Rusch 850,000
Jody Gerut 700,000
Wilfredo Ledezma 620,000
Heath Bell 420,000
Cla Meredith 415,000
dl-Clay Hensley 410,000
Kevin Kouzmanoff 410,000
Scott Hairston 406,000
Justin Germano 404,500
dl-Justin Hampson 402,500
Joe Thatcher 393,000
Paul McAnulty 391,250
dl-Tim Stauffer 391,200
Callix Crabbe 390,000
Enrique Gonzalez 390,000
dl-Carlos Guevara 390,000
Justin Huber 390,000

PADRES 2008 payroll 73,677,617 average 2,376,697

now for you bonhoeffer (LOU) posting information from one public web site to another is NOT violating larry's privacy. the court info is public information and I can post your divorce if you want. but you are not trying to run for a union office to try to protect my job! So posting private information will not happen!

just so you know I know who you are remember you have skeletons in your closet and if you want me to I will give more details. I will say this, you were on the work floor with out your badge and when asked about it you became.....

one more thing please stop using postal computers sunday to thursday.


shall we just end this now??? I hope so. I am not about to rat out anyone unless they are a rat!
Bonhoeffer (Lou)  414
04-04-2008 05:59 PM ET (US)
So, San Diego (Dwarf Star) do I owe you an apology did you have the intestinal fortitude to approach Larry Fuqua and tell him that you posted his case for the world to see on this site. Since you have not properly identified yourself people can't say, "Hey, Larry did you not that BLANK thought it was important for the world to know your business. " You know the golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Or is because it is you that the rules don't apply. Ironic, this is what Larry has been accused of. Why don't you post something seemingly private of yours - like your tax return and social. See, you gave people just enough info to damn poor Larry and there is no back story. Again, does the ends justify the means. This is a Union Election not the Democrat/Republican primaries.

Marion doesn't seem to have a problem putting his name out there. Or is it because Larry is 6 foot 4 inches and about 235 lbs that you have to sneakily attack him. Not mano y mano but blindside the dude.

My feelings are unless we see your tax return , something equally private or your hospital bill then everything I said in the last posting is so true. Only a selfish jerk who thinks only of themselves is not mindful of others feelings. Americans don't like to be exposed. You will note that even when the fourth estate publish something they use a by-line. No cowardice there so where is your byline or aren't you proud of what you did? Then own up to it like a man - I say you owe Larry and his family an apology. The damage is done and karma has a weird way of bad pay back so get ready .

So what's your handle: man or snake?
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  413
04-04-2008 04:23 PM ET (US)
san diego here's a 3 part question. 1. what is the 2008 team payroll for the padres? 2. what is Josh Bard's 2008 salary? 3. who has the highest individual Padre salary, and what is it? GOOD LUCK.
Bonhoeffer (Lou)  412
04-04-2008 01:30 PM ET (US)
What a great way to remind people that you have no idea who posts anything. I had the faux Bonhoeffer and the messages from Rick Cornelius and Will Tagart were equally fake. I know these people think they are funny with their misdirection but it just underscores their fraudlent nature. Shame on them!
Bonhoeffer (Lou)  411
04-04-2008 12:56 PM ET (US)
Marion, Again I agree with you that decency is the best way always to go. I must confess that I have been enjoying these posted messages to some of the more dim-witted Densa members who really are quite sad, I look at it as a form of creative writing with plenty of red herrings served up on the side.

My pet peeve has been and will continue to be people who do harm. It is truly ridiculous the depths to which people have stooped to push their agenda in this APWU election. Hopefully, it can be said that all good people wish for the same outcome a good clean election. But no, we have to have race issues which really begs the question how far have we come from segratition. The internet is a wonderful place when people act responsibly.
While I have been oonversing with "Dwarf Star" and "Black Hole" they have a reasonable expectation that they are talking to me. Just as I am talking to you. What I am saying is said to them and their comments should reflect as much. But what about people who post mean defaming things/private issues about individuals and (1) not give them notice that they are doing so, (2) give them no ability to respond back and finally, (3) not have the integrity to identify themselves. What you say behind someone's back you should be able to say to their face. To also take the repercussions for potentially harming someone and their family. In my posts, it is hoped that anyone with a modicum of sense will realize I don't know these people personally. One can get a sense of a person by their responses. With "Dwarf Star" and "Black Hole" this has taken on the flavor of a sociology/ethics test. I will be addresing those two later. I am saddened by San Diego, great name but no moral fiber. More later, again I am glad that we can agree to disagree. Hope you have a spectacular weekend!
Marion  410
04-04-2008 09:41 AM ET (US)
Bonhoeffer.... Before you go around badgering other individuals to tell who they are. Maybe you should be looking into the mirror and decide if maybe you should stop hiding also. My upbringing was to "practice what you preach". Earlier you said you would give your name after the election. Well, then why badger others to give their identity earlier than you are willing to do?

Also, I have found that for the majority of the time if you treat individuals with decency and respect you will get more in return. Not, by bashing or baiting a person either in person or online like in this forum.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  409
04-03-2008 10:07 PM ET (US)
good job san diego!! 2 paws up!!!!!!!!!!!!! when is the union election? i'll have another trivia question for you tomorrow. 'til then, good night and good luck.
san diego  408
04-03-2008 09:23 PM ET (US)
Dave Winfield 1973-1980 Tony Gwynn 1982-2001

And Bonhoeffer when you admit who you are then I will.

Go back taking your surfer pictures and assaulting cops.

And how about doing some senior routes and area assurance because as an ET you should be doing more then just dailies.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  407
04-03-2008 08:43 PM ET (US)
definition of Cauasian please.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  406
04-03-2008 08:43 PM ET (US)
nice san diego. but which players went into the baseball hof in a Padre's cap? plus i got Fred Dean in the fb hof.
Bonhoeffer  405
04-03-2008 07:59 PM ET (US)
Alright! San Diego you just proved my point. I can do sports but I can't be a real man and tell people who I am. In every battle you hang to the rear and then practice marksmanship by shooting yourself in the foot so you can escape. In every major war you would be the collaborator who would sell out his fellow man for his own survival. Post under your real name or you like lurking in the shadows to disguise your lack of anything decent.
Bonhoeffer  404
04-03-2008 07:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2008 07:51 PM
Kitty-kat aka Black Hole:
Check out your post 364, you already used "windbag". Try to strive for a little more originality. After all I have insulted you in three languages, do keep track. Faux Bonhoffer used the word, "ass" to describe himeself. Remember, an ass is far more usefull then a faux Bonhoffer.

As to being pompous what would a skank like you know? The only part of the world that you know is the street corner you hang out at to try and give it away. Kittykat, once a puta always a puta. Truthful is the correct phrase you were struggling for. Quit insulting Postal Workers by stating that they are as clueless as you. I work with the best and the brightest(not management obviously). Most importantly they have common sense which is something that you can never lay claim to.

I was right that you like abuse. I've insulted your intelligence, your family, your looks and you come crawling back for more. How's your Daddy? Still tucking you in at night and playing house with you, Electra?

Hey, thanks for letting us know that they still have "Star Trek" reruns in your area. Where else would you have picked up "lifeform" as a word? Again proper English and creativity isn't your forte. Hey, but your Junior High pictures show you to be a dead ringer for a Horta. Now I know Deep Space Nine is too complex for you but honestly, your picture from Juvie shows you to be a dead ringer for a Ferngi. Same dental work too, eh Snaggletooth?

Admit it, you purloined "stuffed shirt" from AMC Classics. Dated , trite and limited just like you. Quit trying to compete with the insults, I've nailed you seven ways to Sunday. Quite repulsive actually because now I'll have to check for every known STD that you embrace.

Let the rest of us go back to dealing with Postal issues. Go back to your coloring books. Shame you can stay in the lines. The only thing that you can beat in a challenge is an amoeba. Come back when you get a personality transplant.

This is so bad but what is Kittykat/Black Holes' favorite holiday? Christmas of course. She keeps hearing: "HO, HO, HO" and it thrills her that they know her name.

Nice try with the sports triva to bring back , "San Diego". If he answers you it better be under his real name, or maybe he knows you like the color yellow.
san diego  403
04-03-2008 07:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2008 07:39 PM
did not find your numbers.

Kellen Winslow
Inducted 1995
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1995
Tight End, 1979-87

Charlie Joiner
Inducted 1993
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1996
Wide Receiver, 1976-86

Dan Fouts
Inducted 1993
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1993
Quarterback, 1973-87

Sid Gillman
Inducted 1985
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1983
Head Coach, 1960-69, 71

Ron Mix
Inducted 1978
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1979
Tackle, 1960-69

Lance "Bambi" Alworth
Inducted 1977
Pro Football Hall of Fame 1978
Wide Receiver, 1962-70

http://www.chargertom.com/HallOfFame.html


PADRES
Player Years played with Padres
 
Rollie Fingers 1977-1980
 
Willie McCovey 1974-1976
 
Gaylord Perry 1978-1979
 
Ozzie Smith 1978-1981
 
Dave Winfield 1973-1980

Tony Gwynn 1982-2001

http://mlb.mlb.com/sd/history/hall_of_famers.jsp


working on the bonnie thing.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  402
04-03-2008 07:03 PM ET (US)
san diego a trivia question for you. can you name the san diego chargers and the san diego padres that are in their respective halls of fame? i'll give you a hint............7 in one, and 2 in the other. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Observer  401
04-03-2008 05:45 PM ET (US)
Yo... Santa Claus since when do you go on spying on people. Dont' you have your own work to do? Also it sounds more like your a little jealous of someone who has a professional relationship with another individual. I am now assuming the only relationship that you have is between Rosy Palm and her 5 sisters. So... How about trying to be more professional on how you view people.
Santa Claus (Just Cause)  400
04-03-2008 04:55 PM ET (US)
Hey, Jim and Tammy how was lunch at Ikea the other day? I thought it was a professional relationship not a loving relationship. Did you somewhere else for private desert? Tammy, you really should get Jim to take you to more expensive places, oh,as I remember thats why he wants to get re-elected for the money to take you to better places.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  399
04-03-2008 04:16 PM ET (US)
san diego...............which pompous ass, stuffed shirt, know-it-nothing pathetic excuse for a "life form" would you say bonnie is? what a windbag!!!
Bonhoeffer  398
04-03-2008 02:18 PM ET (US)
Oh, and Kittykat aka Black Hole don't use any more elevator cracks because as everyone knows your elevator doesn't go to the top. Or you are two tacos short of a combination plate, both oars aren't in the water and finally, you're standing in left field and it's Football season. Just a quip- Go Padres!
Bonhoeffer  397
04-03-2008 01:54 PM ET (US)
As for San Diego aka Dwarf Star - the gauntlet has been thrown. Reveal your name or reveal your cowardice now!
Bonhoeffer  396
04-03-2008 01:52 PM ET (US)
Marion,

I have been most remiss and I apologise. I really should have come out and told you a long time ago that I appreciate you. While we may not agree on Union politics or anything else I do think you are a stand up guy for giving up your name. I promise you that I will do the same but not until the elections are over. I feel it is necessary to continue to goad some of these poseurs who do things like try to discredit people like Larry Fuqua. Larry is not always perfect but he does stand up for what he believes. A trait I believe you both share. Again, thanks!
Marion  395
04-03-2008 01:12 PM ET (US)
Bonhoeffer since earlier you accused me of hiding behind my online name of "SDTrickster". I now see that you also continue to hide behind your online name of "Bonhoeffer". Why not come out into the open like you want everyone else to do? Do you hide because you are afraid of the consequences if everyone is to know who you actually are? You go ahead and make fun of others who use online names. Before you begin maybe you should look at yourself first. Why not take the lead and show us how to do it. Or are you someone who is only a follower or just one of the mindless crowd. Yes, your vocabulary is quite extensive and interesting. But, that does not mean much to most of us. Instead, let you remove the anonymity that you are hiding behind using the name of "Bonhoeffer". Or will you be like the cockroach and scurry away from the light to continue to hide behind this Nom de Plume of "Bonhoeffer".
Bonhoeffer  394
04-03-2008 01:02 PM ET (US)
Yes, Jacques, please tell us about NY. Thank you !
Bonhoeffer  393
04-03-2008 12:54 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2008 12:56 PM
Well, Hello San Diego and Kitty Kat or maybe I just refer to you by your proper names Dwarf Star and Black Hole. San Diego just is plain dense and still hasn't got a clue. Not afraid to mention other peoples names but hides behind an alias. Takes a lot of gonads, Dwarf Star. If you are indeed a "crusader rabbit" then give up your REAL NAME. Otherwise you are nothing but a poseur. So there's the CHALLENGE and don't ask for my name. You put up that court case in an attempt to blacken Larry's name. Doesn't it even matter that his children can possibly see that. Or is it just the end justifies the means sorta like Auschwitz was the Nazi's solution for the Jewish problem. Stand up proudly for your name or slink back to the rock you crawled out from under. This bet would be a sure thing for me because cowards always like to hide behind sheets, masks and fake names when they do their dirty work.

As for KittyKat aka Black Hole where no light still penetrates her mind's stupidity.It really is rather boring and repulsive screwing with you every day because I don't like sloppy seconds and from what I have read you've been had by just about everyone. You should probably think about getting a new paper bag to put over your face because the Piggly Wiggly one is just getting plain tatty. Your elevator analogy is of course plain juvenile and still in all liklihood you ring innocent people's doorbells and run away. Oh, what can be expected of a human who patterns themself after Homer Simpson. Declasse all the way. So I say again, drop and give me fifty, maggot. Just push your enormous beer belly out of the way.

Finally, my apologies to the rest of the people who are stuck with this ridiculousness. I do have a POSTAL Question. It's been rather alarming that the volumne of mail has fallen dramatically. Our Customer Service employees have had to face staffing inquiries. They are cutting clerk bids everywhere. Is this also happening at anyone's elses plant?

Hopefully, San Diego aka Dwarf Star will not provide his real name and then we can just ignore the pathetic sap. As for KittyKat aka Black Hole she is like a disease - no brains and just disgusting to have around. In a previous life she could have been used as a camp follower since her only contribution to mankind might be just as a comfort women and a cheap one at that. Black Hole still doesn't know what a caucasian is because she has never learned to use a dictionary and has to bother other people to get any type of knowledge. Can you say ILLITERATE.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  392
04-02-2008 09:19 PM ET (US)
thanks san diego. obviously he's fussy and anal retentive. still no definition of Cauasian. note it's not Caucasian. so much fun to push his buttons. its like an elevator, then you jump out and he's going to the top stopping at every floor.
san diego  391
04-02-2008 09:02 PM ET (US)
kitty; bonhoeffer is larry and if not him then he is doug marshall. these are the only two people who like the dictator ricky cornelius and seem to have this gift of vocabulary. the reasons this person does NOT help out is because they are not interested in helping anyone they are out to further there own agenda.

keep up the pressure maybe they will go away.
Jacques  390
04-02-2008 07:54 PM ET (US)
Does everyone know what's going on at the NY Metro Area Postal Union in New York City? If not, have I got some stories (not lies) to tell you!
Bonhoeffer  389
04-02-2008 07:31 PM ET (US)
Actually, you do provide entertainment value. Especially when you come back with that tired Caucasian line. One of my amigos wonders why your Mother didn't just spontaneously abort when it was obvious she was carrying a defective package. Why don't you drop and give me twenty.
Bonhoeffer  388
04-02-2008 07:23 PM ET (US)
Why don't you run home, curl up in your daddy's lap and ask him? Until you can come up with something a little more original just resign from the human race. In the OED next to the word "pathetic" your visage stands as a perfect example. Let's talk about how many messages, you sent where you crowed like Cock Robin thinking you were talking to Larry. Only a total nimrod like you would be brain damaged enough to think they knew the identity of anyone when everyone is using an alias.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  387
04-02-2008 06:49 PM ET (US)
define the word Cauasian bonnie.
Bonhoeffer  386
04-02-2008 04:58 PM ET (US)
Hey, KittyKat what's your real name? Fluffy?
Bonhoeffer  385
04-02-2008 04:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2008 04:53 PM
What is truly hilarious is that all you space cadets and yes, that means you Kittykat think I'm Larry. You know nothing. Keep talking to Larry/Barry/Garry whatever floats your boat. The true definition of LOSER is defined by you all.

Do by all means send a letter, Kittykat. They won't take you seriously when you sign it in crayon. Obviously, you've been wading in the shallow end of the gene pool.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  384
04-02-2008 04:49 PM ET (US)
why work for the postal service with your alleged superior intelligence? no one would hire you, or is it that nasty arrest record? does the good old p.o. know about it? or should we all send letters?
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  383
04-02-2008 04:33 PM ET (US)
define Cauasian.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  382
04-02-2008 04:33 PM ET (US)
how come larry boy only posts on this board? nothing to share on the other forums? for a self professed know-it-all you would think he would bend over backwards to spread the wealth of knowledge he claims to have. history, grammar, psychology, animal husbandry..........the list goes on and on, much the way his posts do. how come you chose to ignore the posts from San Diego, BlueLightSpecial, and ???????????????????????. cat got your tongue???
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  381
04-02-2008 04:26 PM ET (US)
yes bonnie or should i say Larry David Fuqua. talk your way out of the charges addressed by San Diego. care to refute them in less than 35 words?
Bonhoeffer  380
04-02-2008 02:20 PM ET (US)
Ah, how refreshingly juvenile "mimicry" - what's next self immolation? There is only one true Bonhoeffer! Ass? What is this frat boy drunken humor? Regardless. an ass is a useful creature unlike faux Bonhoeffer.
Bonhoeffer  379
04-02-2008 01:58 PM ET (US)
I want my name everywhere!
Bonhoeffer  378
04-02-2008 01:58 PM ET (US)
I will never go away!
Bonhoeffer  377
04-02-2008 01:54 PM ET (US)
I will stop at nothing because I can not be caught!
Bonhoeffer  376
04-02-2008 01:54 PM ET (US)
I have highjacked this thread!
Bonhoeffer  375
04-02-2008 01:53 PM ET (US)
I post on the clock!
Bonhoeffer  374
04-02-2008 01:53 PM ET (US)
I am an ASS!
Bonhoeffer  373
04-02-2008 01:17 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2008 01:24 PM
In case you didn't know an Electra Complex just means you have daddy issues. Like Oedipus lusting for his mother - you feel that way about good old dad. And thanks for calling me, "Bonnie", since bonnie means very pleasing to the eye.
Bonhoeffer  372
04-02-2008 01:12 PM ET (US)
Kittykat, my apologies I didn't know that you flunked history and have a natural aversion to people who have accomplished things in life. I guess higher education wasn't remotely possible with your obvious handicaps.

Tsk, tsk still unable to correctly formulate sentences and provide proper capitalization. Which would put you at, what, first grade English? As to writing a doctoral dissertaion it clearly is something you have never done or ever hope to accomplish. Such anger issues regarding people who have the ability to excel. Proper usage of English is a requirement which sadly, seems to escape you. Can you say, "run on sentences", "fragmented sentences", and poor punctuation?

Quien es mas stupido? Why, the answer is Kitty. Especially. when she is attempting to be witty. She is prone to sophmoric ideas and fantasties. The French have a word that discribes her perfectly, merde!

I do have a family although they cannot compare with your family since they are intelligent, witty and attractive. I believe your were raised by either a family of itinerant skunks or possums. Skunks would explain the toxic odor which perfumes your every gesture since you are easily frightened. Or if it were possums it would explain your modus operandi as a sexual partner. You simply play dead like a possum.

Yes, I do engage in intelligent conversation at work and at home. Your family is still at the Neanderthal level and wishing they could elevate themselves to the Cro-Magnon.Does your husband/girlfriend's knuckles still drag on the ground? And have you said yes to the Jane Godall's Insitutes request to study your family after they are done with the chimpanzees?

And I too will express my appreciation of your continued participation. It is rare to find someone who has a hide as thick as a rhino and definitely, the sensibilities. When you next see your therapist, please ask her why you enjoy being humilated. Is it due to your continued thumbsucking, your Electra complex or your lowered IQ. Doesn't the truth just hurt?

Hasta la vista, baby!
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  371
04-02-2008 04:52 AM ET (US)
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How 'bout that!!!
????????????  370
04-01-2008 11:11 PM ET (US)
THIS IS FUN!
BlueLightSpecial  369
04-01-2008 11:11 PM ET (US)
After a great deal of bloviating, we finally get an answer(?) to the question of disqualification of a candidate. It appears someone named Fuqua has a criminal conviction(?) within the past 13 years and has been named as a candidate for office in the San Diego Local. Is this about right?
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  368
04-01-2008 06:33 PM ET (US)
is it possible to post anything that does contain the name of a historical individual? sounds as if one is writing a doctoral dissertation with all the name dropping. answer this bonnie............are you allowed to speak at home or has the family emasculated you? and does ANYONE at work engage in conversation with you? but i should clarify that telling you to move or shut the hell up does not count, except in your fantasy.its so easy to push your buttons bonnie. almost too easy!!!!!
san diego  367
04-01-2008 05:36 PM ET (US)
hey larry I mean Bonhoeffer, why don't you explain this?

View Case Detail
Case Title: DEFENDANT LARRY DAVID FUQUA
Case Number: SCN045833 Case Location: North County
Case Type: Criminal Date Filed: 09/23/1996

Defendant
Last Name First Name AKA DA Number
FUQUA LARRY DAVID P8144701

http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pag...rtal&_schema=PORTAL


your fancy talking words did not get you out of jail time for ruffing up a cop!
Bonhoeffer  366
04-01-2008 03:35 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-01-2008 03:37 PM
And I apologise I shouldn't even attempt to discuss important issues with an individual who is mentally disabled. Now you sing your theme song, "To Be Thick as A Brick" by Jethro Tull.

And Kitty again, remember two of us pointed out that you are outclassed in the literacy area. And by continuing to respond in such a fashion shows obstinacy, stupidity and an inability to learn.

As to being on a soapbox, I am following in proud tradition of Sam and John Adams. Even though they lived on the East Coast you probably only know Sam Adams as a beer
Bonhoeffer  365
04-01-2008 03:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-01-2008 03:26 PM
Thanks Kitty cuz your'e obtuse and of no f---ing use. And I may be windbag but at least I stand for myself in a literate fashion. I'm proud to say William F. Buckley was also thought of in such a fashion. Jealousy, Kitty is never becoming.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  364
04-01-2008 02:54 PM ET (US)
i'm surprised that's there's enough room for you and your inflated ego on that soap box of yours. once again.............glad i'm on the east coast. oh yeah............you're still a bore, and a windbag at that.
Bonhoeffer  363
04-01-2008 01:05 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-01-2008 01:10 PM
Kitty,
It is so true that you get bored easily. People with the intelligence of a gnat are unable to comprehend basic English. You note that I have a "big vocabulary" but then state "what is is that you are actually saying". I am writing utilizing words that can be found in an English dictionary. Americans use these words daily. Most intelligent individuals if they do not grasp the nuance of a sentence will engage in conversation with friends and family to clarify or they will google the word. Apparently, you have no friends or family another clear indication of your anti-social tendencies.

Perhaps your new apellation should be "Dwarf Star" for you definitely are one of the most dense objects about or perhaps "Black Hole" since light is unable to breech your mind. "Black Hole" also refers to a region of empty space which seems to describe you to a "T".

I am not offended by any errors being point out- how else can one learn except from their mistakes. What I find perturbing is the image of a snotty three year old brat jumping up and down screaming, "NAh, nah you spelled it wrong!" Even if you are stuck in a juvenile mode I refuse to believe that the other people who visit this site are as lame. I will not "dumb down" my posts to suit you that would be an insult to everyone else.

Also, you need to check your "Vanilla Ice" fixation at the door. "My bad.." what are you a homey wannabe? In a satiric vein , "You are not pretty fly for a white girl" with apologies to the band, the Offspring.

As to being a "rant" - a rant often refers to an emotional speech or writing usually consisting of complaints or attacks. How can talking about civil liberties quoting Matahama Ghandi or Martin Luther King be described as a complaint. Perhaps you are a Facist or Communist since they have problems with people exercising their civil liberties.

What is glaringly apparent is that you are a bigot/racist because you cannot get behind the most important idea; "RACE HAS NO BEARING ON WHETHER OR NOT A PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO PERFORM A JOB".The same can be said for the writer. "SAN DIEGO" who say's "they are drinking ricky kool aid". This person believes that racial equality can only be found in those with disturbed psyches.

I truly do not see you being of the feline persuasion more of a bovine type. Content to swat flies and chew your cud. Two people take you to task for your errors - no caps and incomplete sentences and yet you continue in the same vein. Were you in the film "Dumb and Dumber"? Can't you learn or change/grow?

Finally, I answered your question you are just unable to comprehend the pure tediousness of attempting to discourse intelligently with you. KITTY & SAN DIEGO - GROW UP! If you continue to dismiss the central messages:
(1) DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG! Whether it be for race, sex, age , religion or physical characteristics.
(2) This is America it is important to use and protect our civil liberties.

It can be only said that you are card carrying members of any number of fantical groups who espouse the idea that they are better then anyone else -can you say,"KKK".

As to mentioning "San Diego politics" this was merely a way to see if other locals are having the same problems. What solutions did they come up with?

Apologies in advance for any spelling errors this is directed to all those anal individuals who cannot see the forest for the trees!
san diego  362
04-01-2008 10:07 AM ET (US)
Bonhoeffer are you Larry Fuqua? because this name fits you.

kitty
don't pay any attention to all those a**holes from san diego. they are drinking the ricky kool-aid. and just like jonestown it will be over soon.
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  361
04-01-2008 07:51 AM ET (US)
re-read the posts. i believe i asked what a Cauasian was and did not receive an answer. if you are going to spill dirty little secrets regarding the politics in your home union have the courtesy of answering a simple question, or keep the dirt in your own house. check around and get back to me.
wlh  360
03-31-2008 11:40 PM ET (US)
KITTY: If we want to look for errors only, then begin to go over your own little peice that you just put in. No caps, incomplete sentences. As I said before, I used to be an ad. asst. and spelling is definately not an indication of intelligence. College educated directors could not spell at all. That is what an asst. is for. I bet President Bush can't spell. HA. People use spelling as a last ditch effort to try to prove a point. It is so sickening. Find what the real issue that bothers you about this man. wlh
KITTYPerson was signed in when posted  359
03-31-2008 09:03 PM ET (US)
as i said earlier, glad i'm on the east coast. such a big vocabulary but what is it you are actually saying? seems as if you can rant all you want but get offended when your errors are pointed out. Cauasian...............Caucasian..........potato, potatoe...........you bore me........
Bonhoeffer  358
03-31-2008 06:44 PM ET (US)
Marion:
It is the responsiblity and the right of any sentient being to create a petition which addresses any injustice or problem. Mahatma Ghandi claimed that "there is no royal road" to achieve this. It will only be possible "through living the creed in your life which must be a living sermon." He found that human beings were sometimes (often) impervious to the appeal of reason when their interest or views were involved and only direct action could shock them out of selfishness or intransigence into introspection and self correction. A petition is merely one form of direct action.

To do nothing is a form of acquiscence. Martin Luther King stated that one method of acquiescence is found when individuals feel that the only way to deal with their oppression is to resign themselves to the fate of opression. There are those who surrender and and find themselves becoming conditioned to things as they are. They feel that it is better to live with these things than to go through the ordeals of changing the old order to the new order. This would be the method of acquiescence- but it is not the way. It may be the easy way at times, but it is not the moral way and it is not the courageous way; it is a cowardly way for the individual who adjusts to an evil system, and he must take responsibility for the perpetuation of the unjust system.

Tha Magna Carta was a document which was forced unto the Rnglish King by his subjects. The Magna Carta today is seen as one of the more significant influences which led to the rule of constitutional law today. A petition is merely a step in addressing an issue. Whether you agree with it or not.As Voltaire once allegedly said, "I disapprove of what you say but I will defend your right to the death to say it." Exercising your right to create a petition or to sign a petition is a part of what being a free American is. So yes it is everyone's duty to always take direct action and sometimes it is in the form of a petition.

I have no direct knowledge of whether or not this particular petition was being circulated by individuals on the clock. It would not be proper for people to be doing so on the postal dime but they could freely do so on their lunches. They are allowed to be selective in their choice of who they approach since their aim is to create a successful petition.
Santa Claus (Just Cause)  357
03-31-2008 05:28 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-31-2008 05:29 PM
It's "Sex, Lies & Videotape" at our Local 197. The lies come from Jim Roland's cronies. The sex is from Jim and Tammy. Hey, my response to the (alleged) truth is quit being an ostrich