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craniacPerson was signed in when posted  1
10-20-2003 05:16 PM ET (US)
I always wondered what happened to this guy. Cool looking farm he's got--90 acres.
tomwsmf  2
10-21-2003 12:17 PM ET (US)
Zines and bbs's are enterwined in many a strange twist in my life. While BBSs are harder to come by though Zines are still floating around in enough numbers to make me a happy readerboy. Things like Infiltrator, TheThresher, PatientZero and others still make a trip to places like Portland's Reading Frenzy a treasure hunt. Of course hunting around ebay recetnly got me a replacement copy of Semiotext(e)USA..gota love ebay.

In its day FactSheet5 was the google of zines.

BBS's, Blogs, Zines, Websites, Xeroxes, PDFs..all of these are spinnign round and round waxng and waning. There is something about paper that takes things to another place than online versions.

Hence why I started putting out paper zines (http://countermoves.blogspot.com/) a few years ago after nearly a decade of nonpublishing in that format.
foaf  3
10-21-2003 01:29 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-21-2003 01:36 PM
Interesting. Checked out Gunderloy's website, and followed a link to his wife's website (http://www.2frogs.net). Couldn't help but follow the link to her "Support the Troops" page. Yikes! I was hoping it would have a "let's support them by getting them the heck out of Iraq" thrust to it, but no luck. However, you can send them a personalized "thank you" for "defending our freedom."

She's also got a "book reviews" page-- I'm afraid to look...
Trevor Blake  4
10-21-2003 08:36 PM ET (US)
No Mike Gunderloy, no Factsheet Five. No Factsheet Five, no 'zine scene.' Thanks and thanks again to Mike Gunderloy.

PS: My zine OVO will be be published again for the first time since 1992 in May of 2004.
Dan Z.  5
11-01-2003 12:56 PM ET (US)
Nearly every zine published back in the day did zine reviews -- MRR, Flipside, and Profane Existence did lots of them. Even Boing Boing reviewed zines, including mine. But Factsheet Five played an important role in consolidating and solidifying the identity of the zine movement. Before Factsheet Five, you belonged to your own little zine fiefdom: scifi, punk, metal, gay, etc. Post Factsheet Five, there was simply zinedom. If you published, you were part of it.

It's interesting that Trevor and Tom both acknowledge their recent return to print. A lot of old skool zinesters that I know are doing the same thing. I think we're in the beginnings of a new zine renaissance. There's just something special about a zine that a webpage can't match.
Twelfth  6
11-03-2003 09:02 AM ET (US)
Yeah, his wife's quite the rah-rah, bomb-Iraq-even-if-it-means-we-ignore-bin-laden Bushie.

I don't know how a guy interested in such a wide spectrum of culture and thinking deals with such a narrow-minded, reactionary woman.

But I hope he's found some way to make it work; otherwise it's got to be a living hell out there in the boondocks.
Dana  7
11-18-2003 08:31 PM ET (US)
Twelfth - in actuality, I'm more the "rah, rah, get rid of oppressive regimes in both Afghanistan AND Iraq Bushie", but I don't really expect you to know the difference. I'm not even going to address your assertions that I'm "narrow-minded" and "reactionary", since you clearly know nothing whatsoever about me.

foaf - yes, be afraid... be very afraid. You might find your pre-conceived notions about me, based on reading a single webpage I drafted, to be badly off the mark. Not that I give a shit, frankly.
Twelfth  8
11-19-2003 09:58 AM ET (US)
But if "Afghanistan AND Iraq", why not AND Syria AND NK AND China, all at once? Or gee, maybe that would stretch our resources too far.

Iraq was not as urgent as Bush and Blair said; we should have been spending those resources on getting bin Laden and waited on Iraq. I bet we'd have at least Osama by now, and that would be more important to our security than what we're doing there now.

9/11 was Osama's thing, remember?
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