"I have asked Cory to make some kind of public statement about what has been going, but he refuses. He seems to think taking down the discussion areas and censoring what few do come up, is enough to drive the trolls off. It might, but at what cost? If we drive them off, who else will we lose? I think we should all demand a public disscusion on what direction the site should take. Does a site like boingboing, which revolves around the open information sharing of many, need one person to have so much control and influence? I would bet there are plenty of people that would help maintain and run the site, which would take away any argument Cory could start that he is too important to remove. I think all of of could live without all the Disney posts and name dropping too."

Fake Xeni/ SpoofNazi,
Do you really expect them to take the abuse you hurl 10 times per day? This fake name shit is cute, and we all impressed with your brave photoshoppery but the fact is you fucked this up for the rest of us. Now you apparently miss it too?! Idiot.

For the record, the correct login for me is "Cory Doctorow." The correct login for Xeni is "xeni."

The identity-hijacking troll who's playing around below is an antisocial, whining infant.

That is all.

Much like the oldskewl BBS there are still folks username jacking or identify cloaking.

Everything old is new again...just like in the long long trailor

Old Time BBS Hijinks, YOur Soaking In It

Now where is the philez section and what the u/d ratio here?

+()/\/\\/\//-/[]/~3

Just so it's clear.... I do read all the messages people post. I don't just drop the link and walk away.

The incessant off-topic messages and infighting unrelated to my particular guest blog are entertaining to me personally, but I'll be gone in a week or two, so obviously I don't have a very good perspective on how horrible it must be to post an interesting link about old Automats or recent events at a conference and all your discussions just end up with ad hominem attacks and sputtering rages at imagined windmills.

As you might be (not) shocked to hear, a website that gets tens of thousands of visitors like textfiles.com gets its share of critics and attackers too. I ended up writing about it in an essay called The Haters, The Haters. I think it captures the whole problem in a nutshell.

Regardless, I thank everyone for writing me and also writing in here. Keep it going, I enjoy it very much.

Hey, tomwhore. Yeah, mindvox was good. I guess what happened to it was like a small-scale version of what happened to the bbs scene as a whole, only faster and hotter. I'd pretty much forgotten it 'till I saw your name there. kewl.

"The Haters" were certainly around in the old BBS days too. "I'm sick of all the backbiting, the bullshit, the idiots ruining it for me, and I am ceasing work" sounds a lot like what I heard more than one sysop say. Only now with this crazy global interweb thing, they outnumber the sysop by a wider margin.

ernie, i think you are missing the whole point. look at Xeni's whole posting history and hold this one in context. it seems to me that he/she doesn't care about BB or the discussion forums. i think this last post was just another way to play games with anyone who reads the QuickTopic threads. so maybe you and the rest of team windowlicker should stop acknowledging their posts. if everyone does this, they will eventually get bored and go somewhere else. unfortunately this won't work unless cory can control his girly emotions and stop feeding them ammunition with statements like "suck my balls". also, cory, don't expect any Hugos if your going to keep writing about Disneyland. you can feel the anticipation when it is announced that Gibson, Stephenson, Sterling or Palahniuk are releasing a new book. the only reason I knew you had a new book out was your self-promotion. nice cover too.

It seems like the quality of post on BB has gone way up once the discussion links went away. Yay BB crew!

Fangs, maybe you should make it more clear if you are being sarcastic or not. JohnJon, fuck you asshole.

I miss 'discuss' links on all of the posts. There've been some really cool posts lately too...

:-/

Is ernie Cory? He talks like Cory. Same playground, I guess.

I think we should just all give up.

In the meantime, I amuse myself with visions of an army of xeni and cory clones, fresh out of one of david's nano-assemblers, marching forth to take over the world.

that wouldn't be so bad.

p.s. we are all "xeni"!

Edited by author 09-19-2003 09:23 AM
the real me has a star, (but /m24 doesnt for some reaon.) Oh well, whatever. In the future if theres no star, blah blah...

Xradio - What about yahoogroups? has anyone looked into a QT alternative? Can't anything cool last ?

The star just means you're registered to QT. The late Boingboing discuss links requred registration to post, this thread apparently doesn't.

To get a little back on topic: I don't remember the BBs I used having this raging troll problem. I think they were maybe too hard for most psychotics to work. Plus, identities were more controlled and stable. And kids WALKED three miles to school in the freezing blizzards.

As far as alleged fake identities go, would it be so hard or wrong to disallow IDs that are the same as current ones except for capitalization/punctuation? I'd be for it.

/m35 I found the BoingBoing Mailblog, but that's the mail version of BB. no discussion (I presume--I haven't signed up).

But you could set up a new groups easy, require moderator approval before first post (only way to keep spam-bots out). But you'd have the same problem--do you moderate out annoying people? Or just try to ignore them? The problem is, annoying people just like seeing their long annoying emails in their own inbox under the group heading, so it still won't work. An annoying version of erotomania where the fixation is not on a single individual, but on the self filtered through a group.

Long time members of the Well and Usenet describe the same
phenomenon. There's an article out there called, "the six stages of online community" but I keep losing the link.

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On 19 Sep 2003, QT - Shan Fenderson wrote:

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A slashdot system would probably work. At least you can weed out the lamer posts. But I don't know if that would let you filter
the front page. What is important is that so many people do
care, and BoingBoing needs to move from the control of Walt
Disney and be given to the residents. Or not, just trying to
make a DAOITMK reference.

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