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DaveWPerson was signed in when posted  36
09-19-2003 09:36 AM ET (US)
The star just means you're registered to QT. The late Boingboing discuss links requred registration to post, this thread apparently doesn't.

To get a little back on topic: I don't remember the BBs I used having this raging troll problem. I think they were maybe too hard for most psychotics to work. Plus, identities were more controlled and stable. And kids WALKED three miles to school in the freezing blizzards.

As far as alleged fake identities go, would it be so hard or wrong to disallow IDs that are the same as current ones except for capitalization/punctuation? I'd be for it.
erniePerson was signed in when posted  35
09-19-2003 08:47 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-19-2003 09:23 AM
the real me has a star, (but /m24 doesnt for some reaon.) Oh well, whatever. In the future if theres no star, blah blah...

Xradio - What about yahoogroups? has anyone looked into a QT alternative? Can't anything cool last ?
xradiographerPerson was signed in when posted  34
09-19-2003 08:32 AM ET (US)
I think we should just all give up.

In the meantime, I amuse myself with visions of an army of xeni and cory clones, fresh out of one of david's nano-assemblers, marching forth to take over the world.

that wouldn't be so bad.

p.s. we are all "xeni"!
DeusPerson was signed in when posted  33
09-19-2003 07:24 AM ET (US)
Is ernie Cory? He talks like Cory. Same playground, I guess.
@lph@m@le  32
09-19-2003 07:11 AM ET (US)
I miss 'discuss' links on all of the posts. There've been some really cool posts lately too...

:-/
ernie  31
09-19-2003 05:24 AM ET (US)
Fangs, maybe you should make it more clear if you are being sarcastic or not. JohnJon, fuck you asshole.
fangs  30
09-19-2003 03:51 AM ET (US)
It seems like the quality of post on BB has gone way up once the discussion links went away. Yay BB crew!
JohnJon  29
09-19-2003 02:44 AM ET (US)
ernie, i think you are missing the whole point. look at Xeni's whole posting history and hold this one in context. it seems to me that he/she doesn't care about BB or the discussion forums. i think this last post was just another way to play games with anyone who reads the QuickTopic threads. so maybe you and the rest of team windowlicker should stop acknowledging their posts. if everyone does this, they will eventually get bored and go somewhere else. unfortunately this won't work unless cory can control his girly emotions and stop feeding them ammunition with statements like "suck my balls". also, cory, don't expect any Hugos if your going to keep writing about Disneyland. you can feel the anticipation when it is announced that Gibson, Stephenson, Sterling or Palahniuk are releasing a new book. the only reason I knew you had a new book out was your self-promotion. nice cover too.
Shan FendersonPerson was signed in when posted  28
09-19-2003 02:36 AM ET (US)
Hey, tomwhore. Yeah, mindvox was good. I guess what happened to it was like a small-scale version of what happened to the bbs scene as a whole, only faster and hotter. I'd pretty much forgotten it 'till I saw your name there. kewl.

"The Haters" were certainly around in the old BBS days too. "I'm sick of all the backbiting, the bullshit, the idiots ruining it for me, and I am ceasing work" sounds a lot like what I heard more than one sysop say. Only now with this crazy global interweb thing, they outnumber the sysop by a wider margin.
Jason "The Works" ScottPerson was signed in when posted  27
09-19-2003 01:07 AM ET (US)
Just so it's clear.... I do read all the messages people post. I don't just drop the link and walk away.

The incessant off-topic messages and infighting unrelated to my particular guest blog are entertaining to me personally, but I'll be gone in a week or two, so obviously I don't have a very good perspective on how horrible it must be to post an interesting link about old Automats or recent events at a conference and all your discussions just end up with ad hominem attacks and sputtering rages at imagined windmills.

As you might be (not) shocked to hear, a website that gets tens of thousands of visitors like textfiles.com gets its share of critics and attackers too. I ended up writing about it in an essay called The Haters, The Haters. I think it captures the whole problem in a nutshell.

Regardless, I thank everyone for writing me and also writing in here. Keep it going, I enjoy it very much.
tomwsmf  26
09-19-2003 12:49 AM ET (US)
Much like the oldskewl BBS there are still folks username jacking or identify cloaking.

Everything old is new again...just like in the long long trailor

Old Time BBS Hijinks, YOur Soaking In It

Now where is the philez section and what the u/d ratio here?

+()/\/\\/\//-/[]/~3
boingboingPerson was signed in when posted  25
09-18-2003 11:41 PM ET (US)
For the record, the correct login for me is "Cory Doctorow." The correct login for Xeni is "xeni."

The identity-hijacking troll who's playing around below is an antisocial, whining infant.

That is all.
ernie  24
09-18-2003 10:19 PM ET (US)
"I have asked Cory to make some kind of public statement about what has been going, but he refuses. He seems to think taking down the discussion areas and censoring what few do come up, is enough to drive the trolls off. It might, but at what cost? If we drive them off, who else will we lose? I think we should all demand a public disscusion on what direction the site should take. Does a site like boingboing, which revolves around the open information sharing of many, need one person to have so much control and influence? I would bet there are plenty of people that would help maintain and run the site, which would take away any argument Cory could start that he is too important to remove. I think all of of could live without all the Disney posts and name dropping too."

Fake Xeni/ SpoofNazi,
Do you really expect them to take the abuse you hurl 10 times per day? This fake name shit is cute, and we all impressed with your brave photoshoppery but the fact is you fucked this up for the rest of us. Now you apparently miss it too?! Idiot.
erniePerson was signed in when posted  23
09-18-2003 09:59 PM ET (US)
"Xeni" , star or no star is FAKE
"xeni" small case WITH STAR is real.
that is all.
XeniPerson was signed in when posted  22
09-18-2003 09:52 PM ET (US)
Eli, it is the other way around. The lower case one is the troll, and mine is with a capital X.
XeniPerson was signed in when posted  21
09-18-2003 09:50 PM ET (US)
DaveW, there really isn't any flame war going on between Cory and I. We just disagree about certain topics which has led to some harsh words this last intense week. I hope this should help clear a few things up.

This board was obviously created, body and soul, by Mark and Cory. Before I started moderating here, I was a dedicated enthusiest. I did and still do love boingboing. But I do have to agree with Tom Foolery and Zwack that Cory is mainly responsible for this painful period. Against Cory's wishes, I would like to reveal a few things about the board in it's current state. I hope everyone reading this post will copy it and repost it if Cory decides to censor me, again.

First off, let me state that I am NOT for the censorship of this site and it's disscusion forums. If anyone hasn't been able to tell from my recent posts, my adoption of Nazi like ideologies has been a farce. I think it does relate on a real level though. Why should we take down any discussion threads because they don't agree with Cory or my beliefs, or insult either of us? We shouldn't, and I would like to state now, I didn't.

Cory started taking down the posts that annoyed him last week. What started out as minorly irritating trolling caused by Macki's guest-blogging, soon grew. Once these trolls figured out that they could get such an easy and public rise out of him, they launched a much more intense campaign. I can't say that I liked most of their posts, but I wasn't for taking them down. Cory is set on controlling the content of BB now and seems to think it is HIS board alone. When did this all start? It seems to me that his "reign" started once Mark left the picture.

I have asked Cory to make some kind of public statement about what has been going, but he refuses. He seems to think taking down the discussion areas and censoring what few do come up, is enough to drive the trolls off. It might, but at what cost? If we drive them off, who else will we lose? I think we should all demand a public disscusion on what direction the site should take. Does a site like boingboing, which revolves around the open information sharing of many, need one person to have so much control and influence? I would bet there are plenty of people that would help maintain and run the site, which would take away any argument Cory could start that he is too important to remove. I think all of of could live without all the Disney posts and name dropping too.
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