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 Person was signed in when posted  22
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BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  19
12-09-2005 10:23 AM ET (US)
Now there's something you don't see every day...

An introduction to 'pataphysics in a major newspaper.


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BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  17
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A novel without words

Christian Bok slams his hand on the table and curses into the night. A flock of birds lifts from the rooftops of Calgary and flies toward the moon. Exeunt. (From Moby)


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BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  15
03-08-2005 11:10 PM ET (US)
File under: now there's something you don't see every day...

The Oulipo movement getting coverage from a major American broadcast network. (From Lit Saloon, where, they point out, quite a few Oulipo works are under review.)



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BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  14
01-08-2005 09:26 PM ET (US)
Return of the living dead

For those of you who, like me, missed it: Alienated.net is back online... in blog form. I've spent months just clicking refresh and waiting for something to come up.


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BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  13
10-27-2004 02:27 PM ET (US)
Digital Dada Library
The University of Iowa has an online collection of Dada-era publications. Neat little site if you're into that gang of hooligans.

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derik  12
06-24-2004 10:58 AM ET (US)
Wondered over here from somewhere, and lo and behold you mentioned my site. Thanks for the kind words.
BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  11
06-18-2004 10:11 PM ET (US)
Oulipo, the Blog

Your worst nightmare or your dream site? You all come here, so I must only cross your mind when you're awake. I find it intensely interesting and a fantastic example of what focused blogging can do. An education conducted in public. (From Languagehat)



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Twinkle TwinklePerson was signed in when posted  10
06-01-2004 10:23 AM ET (US)
"Poetry, Pound said famously, is news that stays news."
That's from near the end of the Jollimore review.
Maybe Ezra's command should've been
"make it news!"

Silliman also quotes from this review in the May 31 blog entry
http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/
Twinkle TwinklePerson was signed in when posted  9
05-31-2004 10:33 PM ET (US)
"It is, at this point, no longer possible to establish one's poetic legitimacy by being more experimental or irreverent toward the tradition than your predecessors"

to establish one's poetic legitimacy?
when did that become the goal?
Ezra's Ghost  8
05-31-2004 10:12 PM ET (US)
I fucked up
And you followed.

There is nothing
New under the sun.

I stole that.
Make it old.
BookninjaPerson was signed in when posted  7
05-31-2004 09:36 PM ET (US)
Discussion Has Been Slow...

So in hopes of drawing out some new discussants, and maybe drawing back a few old-timers (Killer, Zed, Silas, Sopwith, Claude, Thin Girl, Fish Fish, Mads, Twinks, where are you?), I give you this quote (from a longer review that I don't care much about):

When the poet David Lehman chose to title his book about the New York School of Poets "The Last Avant-Garde," he had a point; the point being that an avant-garde needs a mainstream tradition to be "avant" of and that the canonical New York School grouping of John Ashbery, Kenneth Koch, Frank O'Hara and James Schuyler had not only pushed the limits of language as far they could be pushed, but had pushed the project of pushing into the mainstream itself. It is, at this point, no longer possible to establish one's poetic legitimacy by being more experimental or irreverent toward the tradition than your predecessors; you can't go further than those guys have already gone. Ezra Pound's command that poets must "make it new!" was itself, once, a new idea. But by now, all the new ideas are really kind of old.

What do you think? Please: (discuss) (From Shanna)



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