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paul vermeersch
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01-18-2006 08:08 AM ET (US)
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"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
--John Stuart Mill
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01-19-2006 07:24 PM ET (US)
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The church of Stephen HarperNinja reader Paul pointed out some interesting tidbits on the website of the church (Christian & Missionary Alliance) to which Conservative leader, and presumptive Prime Minister, Stephen Harper belongs. Paul did a search on the term "women" which turned up this page of results . Click anything to have the Holy Bejesus scared out of you. But for a real scare click point #5 (Role of Women in Ministry - page 61) which will open a Word document that will knock your socks off. I pulled a couple choice quotes, in case you don't want to sully your computer with the download (emphasis is mine). THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN MINISTRY From its inception the Alliance leadership has interpreted Scripture to affirm the womans right in the apostolic church to be the channel of spiritual gifts for the edification of the local assembly. Furthermore, Alliance leadership has historically affirmed a restraint upon the womans role in the government of the local church. The Board recognizes that the Holy Scriptures teach the following principles. BASIC SCRIPTURAL PRINCIPLES OF WOMEN IN MINISTRY 1. Authority and Submission. It is recognized that God has sovereignly ordained, in the order of creation and redemption, relationships of authority and submission. Christ is the head of every man and the man is the head of woman and God is the head of Christ (I Corinthians 11:3). The nature of authority is modelled in the humility and self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ (Philippians 2:5-11). The goal of authority is to build up the household of faith (II Corinthians 13:10). Submission to authority is noble and gives substance to unity (Ephesians 4:1-6). 4. Eldership. It is recognized that the historical and biblical pattern has been that elders in the church have been men. The weight of evidence would imply that this pattern should continue. Why isn't this being reported on the national news? It would be interesting to see what other keyword searches turn up. If you're a swing voter and you go Harper, you're going to regret it. Mark my words. Home
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01-19-2006 11:51 PM ET (US)
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I expect you're, ahem, preaching to the choir hereabouts, G. It is odd tho that some enterprising journalist hasn't dug this shit up. It wouldn't make much difference to his core of support, but it would definitely alarm any conservatives still clinging to the threads of "progressive."
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| Alex Boyd
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01-20-2006 08:33 AM ET (US)
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Cover of the Star yesterday had something about how Harper will run the country. Sorry, but is the election over or something? Geez...
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| Isabella
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01-20-2006 12:17 PM ET (US)
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G&M article today alludes to this issue, in the words (from Nov 2001) of David Sweet, who introduced Harper at yesterday's news conference: "[M]en are natural influencers, whether we like it or not. There's a particular reason why Jesus called men only. It's not that women aren't co-participators. It's because Jesus knew women would naturally follow."
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01-20-2006 01:28 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-20-2006 01:29 PM
Stephen Harper is a sexist, a racist, and a homophobe.
We know he's a sexist because he belongs to a church that declares that women should be subordinate to men. If he didn't share this belief, he wouldn't belong to the church, would he?
He proved he was a racist when he said, "Youve got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society."
And, given his track record on gay marriage and gay rights, we know he doesn't believe that homosexuals should have the same rights as other Canadians.
Basically, Harper is a bigot and a pig who will sell us out to the Yanks faster than you could spit on him.
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01-20-2006 11:41 PM ET (US)
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CHB, could you supply the rest of us with the source of that disturbing quote in your middle paragraph?
One thing that no one in the media has brought up, until Rick Mercer the other night, is the company that Harper keeps. Stockwell Day. Myron Thompson (he's my MP - please pick a deity and pray for us). Rob Anders. Others.
Yikes.
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01-21-2006 12:05 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-21-2006 12:07 AM
Not hard to find with google. Here's one of many sites with the quote. You can link to the full conext if you'd like to offended any further. http://www.stephenharpersaid.ca/Did you know Stockwell Day believes the Earth is only 6000 years old, because that's whast he figgers from the Bible. He could be the next federal minister of _________________. Stop the insanity. People of Canada. Don't vote for the ignorant, biggoted pigs.
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01-21-2006 02:49 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-21-2006 02:52 PM
Vote with your mind not your walletThe Harper Conservatives are hiding their loud mouth candidates. Harper has figured out how to appear 'bland.' Canadians like bland. We live for bland. The Conservatives have sequestered their anti-abortion, misogynistic, racist candidtaes and are trying to make this party look like a middle of the road, sensible choice for a good strong accounting-style government. It's got Margaret Wente fooled (who says you can't fool the fool?). It's got a lot of stay-at-home mums fooled (re: childcare policy). The truth is, with Harper we won't get what we want (i.e. bland), we'll get something far, far other). Will America return to the culture that made it great, our traditional, Judeo-Christian, Western culture? Or will we continue the long slide into the cultural and moral decay of political correctness? If we do, America, once the greatest nation on earth, will become no less than a third world country. Judeo-Christian? Hello? Get your heads out of the sand. These are the people who want Harper to win. Call your waffling parents. Call your culturally shielded aunt. Plead. On hands and knees. For the sake of bland, tell them, do not vote Conservative. Home
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| Kay
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01-21-2006 03:52 PM ET (US)
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And if you are wondering who's working behind the scenes?
After the last election, the Conservatives cleaned house at party headquarters. Everyone there is now former Alliance, there are practically no Red Tories left.
This is why I never was upset when Stronach crossed the floor. This isn't the party she was trying to lead.
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01-21-2006 04:36 PM ET (US)
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How'd They VoteIf you're still uncertain about which party to vote for in Monday's federal election -- "Hmm, am I evil? Good? Or just plain neutral?" -- then this site may help you. Home
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01-21-2006 05:43 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-21-2006 05:43 PM
Re /m259: Oo, oo, Education, teach, Stock, teach.
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01-22-2006 12:28 PM ET (US)
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I heard somewhere that the arts tend to flourish under totalitarian regimes. I don't think I want to find out whether that's true.
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01-22-2006 05:30 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-22-2006 05:31 PM
Aw, c'mon, gorch, it ain't that bad. The judges'll hold him in check. And if they don't, I'm sure God will...
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01-23-2006 09:15 AM ET (US)
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NYT looks at Bush's ballastWhat books has Wubblewoo been carrying this year? And what message do they send to the world? They say, Georgie-boy has arms strong enough to carry this book around. They say, this is what Uncle Dick's people say he should show around. Home
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01-23-2006 12:14 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-23-2006 12:15 PM
What separates me from you?If every government in the world becomes extremely conservative in its world view, what does separate me from you? This is terrifying news, here. An Osama bin Laden backed book has become a bestseller. What can I say? Watch out Oprah? By the way, the author of the book, William Blum, is still having trouble getting to Cuba. Here's an interview with him on the topic of bin Laden's new talk show. Home
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