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jwf2
07-23-2014
09:46 PM ET (US)
I use "Doctors Best", available from multiple sources online. Fyi, you will probably have better luck with a Naturopath than a traditionally trained MD- I've never talked to one who is even aware of LO....they usually only "sell" big pharma products....

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Anita
07-23-2014
06:36 PM ET (US)
Hi I am writing on behalf of my daugher Gina, she is Bipolar and has been since 18years of age, both depression and Hypermania. We went to hell and back with Gina whilst she was going through her first initial episode, to cut a very long story short, we after 4 years of trialing different things ie Empower Plus (from USA) my daughter now has been stable for 2 + years and is on Lithium Carbonate 2tabs aday 400mg ea. Gina has commenced her University studies again this year and my beautiful girl is truly amazing as a person and the difficulty she is having is anxiety and experiences constant bouts of this and also another major factor is that she constantly struggles with the fogginess and slow recall of information and this is making her uni studies very difficult as is causes her to become extremely anxious and panicy. I have read up on Lithium Orate and it sounds wonderful but I am very afraid for her to have to go through any unsettled periods and for myself as well as I am her sole caregiver when it all goes belly up as it takes a huge toll on me though I would never not be there for her as she is everything to me.
I am going to speak to our Dr and ask him to consider helping my daughter make the transition to Lithium Orate, hoping that he is willing. Is there any particular brand that is best to trial??
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ann barrclay
07-20-2014
05:01 AM ET (US)
Hi Eric.

You should also have a look at Dr Millars video on you tube. Very interesting.

Ann
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link building
07-17-2014
03:59 PM ET (US)
DZFtYk Thanks so much for the blog article.Really looking forward to read more. Great.
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chelleco
07-08-2014
11:29 PM ET (US)
Hi again Eric,

I'm a little short on time, but I wanted to recommended a video with some info, that might be helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijMbycw2boM Hope this helps a little bit. (and NO I don't work for his company!) =)

Michelle
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Eric
07-08-2014
10:19 PM ET (US)
One concern I have is that I have not seen a doctor about my depression/anxiety as I don't want to be prescribed chemical meds. How do you feel when you first begin taking LO? I have never taken Lithium.
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chelleco
07-08-2014
07:19 PM ET (US)
Hi Eric,
I am sorry you have had such a rough time with depression and anxiety. I switched from lithium carbonate to LO about a year and a half ago, and it has worked great for me. As you will read from the posts...there are no side effects from LO as there are with other meds. I know that other meds are often necessary, but if the LO works for you...so much the better! Keep us posted on how it goes, and how you're doing!

Michelle T.
(Denver, CO)
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Eric
07-08-2014
04:52 PM ET (US)
I was on Zoloft for years and found quite a bit of relief from anxiety/depression but quit in hopes that I was well. I have been off any medication for about 4 years. Depression and Anxiety seems worse than ever and can barely get out of bed sometimes. Have been doing research on LO and am optimistic. I bought some and am considering using it. Side effects? Acclimatization period?
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James
05-29-2014
11:56 PM ET (US)
Curious where in Scotland you live...and how did you discover L/O? jwf2.tao@gmail.com
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annbar
05-26-2014
07:09 AM ET (US)
James

Yes i do agree with everything you say about diet and drugs,I stopped drinking when i realized it had an adverse effect on me,i was never a big drinker anyway, that's before i knew i had bipolar,however i do have to resort to diazepan at times. I find it hard to keep to a good diet because of cravings. Anyway James i'm delighted for you and how you have turned things around for yourself, and thank you so much for sharing it with me.

I have fought these \Doctors long and hard for years refusing to take all that poison, i'm glad i did now. I take wellbutrin, doesn't stop the cycle, but it did help to give me a little motivation while i'm down my choice, i studied them all, my Pshyce just agrees with me now. lol

Thanks again James.
Ann x

We are very much behind the times in Scotland, so nobody has heard of L/O
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James
05-25-2014
07:55 PM ET (US)
No, I only take LO, all anti-D's I have taken provoke mania, which is what excerabated my condition for years of misdiagnosis, with SSRI's prescribed and heavy use of alcohol to keep the mania at bay...until one couldn't work against the other and I "hit bottom". After some time of abstinence I can now enjoy an adult beverage without the compulsions I used to have to keep going. One of lithium original uses was to treat alcoholism, so there does seem to have been a synergistic benefit for me. I strongly believe the diet has a synergistic benefit...getting rid of sugars & grains seems to make my entire heart/mind/body system work more effectively...fyi...imho
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annbar
05-25-2014
01:19 PM ET (US)
James

Thanks for your very interesting and very helpfull posts. I will definately persevere with the Orotate. Hope you don't mind me asking?' but do you still have to take antideppresants as well Ann x
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James
05-24-2014
07:09 PM ET (US)
Went back and read a few older messages, and it prompts me to add a comment. I see several msgs complaining of side effects.....I never realized how bad my "lithium brain fog" was until I went on the GAPS diet....never seen any research, but I now totally believe there is a large interaction between lithium and any form of psycho drugs with your nutrition. Can't recommend this highly enough, probably one of the biggest improvements to my mental health as a result of this diet- starts out as a cleansing diet, over time you remove all sweeteners and grains from the diet. It's amazing, after a month it was like I had a new brain....if interested check out www.gaps.me

health and peace to all....
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James
05-24-2014
06:57 PM ET (US)
Be patient. I have been on lithium of various forms for ~6 years, carbonate for the first five. When I started I was coming off several years of misdiagnosis and medication which exacerbated my condition and resulted in self medication with street drugs in an attempt to reach some form of stasis....finally found a p-doc who realized I was BP rather than straight depressive....but it took about 6 months to work all the bad stuff out of my system and get the dosage correct. About a year ago, working with a Naturopath I started on the GAPS diet, which in very short order made a huge difference in my clarity and cognitive abilities, and shortly after I began the process of converting from Carbonate to Orotate....since then I have been completely stable with no "events"....it's well worth the effort!
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annbar
05-24-2014
08:26 AM ET (US)
Out of the depression at last, been spending some quality time with my grand children. I have not been out of my dressing gown, or out of my door for three months, It's just about a week and a half since I started the lithium. I'm really exited, however I'm not completely into Hypomania yet, I have been gradually coming up for three days now.

I normally switch from one mood to the other like a light switch I'm so looking forward now to see if it will address the Hypomania, I not looking for overnight miracles. I will keep you posted. Ann xxx
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AnnbarPerson was signed in when posted
05-21-2014
01:06 PM ET (US)
Very true chell, i think when you talk to people with the same problem it gives you that little
bit of extra fight. Doctors ,especially Psychs have no clue, they only khow how to write a px, and even then they don't know what they are giving you. It would be much easier for them if you needed a heart transplant. Saying that i'm sure they can only do there best, and nobody knows much about how the brain works. I hope we can continue to get some great results from this group, it has certainly given me some hope and i hope it will for lots of people to come. Annxxx
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