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chelleco
04-20-2014
12:54 PM ET (US)
Hi j lynn,

Welcome to the board, and happy to hear you are doing well on lithium orotate! Just wondering how long you have been taking it?

Michelle
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j lynn
04-20-2014
09:54 AM ET (US)
So glad to see this board-- I am taking 6 tabs a day and everything is good. My psychiatrist said I had to take lithium carbonate or she would no longer see me-- I chose the lithium orotate anyway--on the bright side I feel much better and much more stable than ever before!! without all of the damage from the carbonate!! I take 2 25mg 3 times a day--which equals 150. I sleep now also!!
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chelleco
04-10-2014
08:27 PM ET (US)
Hi Teri, Many of us have been questioning as you are. I am pretty much in the same "club" as James...14 months ago I weaned myself off of lithium carbonate, (over a months time) and filtered in the lithium orotate. It has worked VERY well for me, despite a rough year in terms of stress, loss of my father etc. I transitioned because I was on lithium carbonate more than 30 years...and afraid of side effects (tho I was doing well on 600 mg/day.)

Anyway...just thought I'd put in my "2 cents," ...and hope the best for you!

P.S. Thank you James for your informative post. I didn't have the advantage of a Naturopath, but you confirmed that my dose is probably about right. (Same range as yours)

Michelle
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James
04-10-2014
07:59 PM ET (US)
Hi Teri- most who take orotate have taken carbonate, so they try to take an equivalent dose. Example...I used to take 900mg carbonate/day; now I take 6 125mg orotate/day = 30 mg elemental lithium. My Naturopath came up with the numbers, not exactly sure how...all I know is that I have been more stable in the past 10 months than the preceding 4 years on carbonate.
FYI, for all- recently have been researching the connections between bipolar, lithium, and inositol. I had already planned to experiment with inositol due to anti carcinogenic properties, but appears it may have bipolar benefits as well...requires large dose, 12 grams+/ day. Will add comments if it appears to affect BP...
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Teri
04-10-2014
06:07 PM ET (US)
I suffer from low bipolar once in awhile but im not able to work suddenly, which is very disruptive. Im going to try lithium orotate for the first time, I have wasted 1000's of dollars on things that havent helped, I pray that this does, I just dont know how much should I take an if it should be taken all the month long? thank you very much
Edited 04-10-2014 06:08 PM
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AmberRing
03-19-2014
11:39 PM ET (US)
Hello,

Could you please send me a link to the article by researcher Vickie Gunther on lithium orotate written in 2001 that you mention on your website? I am interested in looking at scientific data that supports the use of lithium orotate and have found it to be quite difficult. There are many websites such as this one that claim there are many benefits and little risk, but I'd like to see data that supports these claims.

Thank you.

Amber Ring, Nursing Student
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chelleco
02-15-2014
04:33 AM ET (US)
Hi Darcy,

My heart goes out to you with the concerns that you have for your daughter. (I have a daughter with bipolar, also, and know what the extreme mood swings can be like!)
I found this article on Lithium Orotate, that I hope will be helpful for you both. Blessings to all of you!

"WHAT IS LITHIUM?

WHAT IS LITHIUM OROTATE?

WHY IS IT SO DIFFERENT
FROM LITHIUM CARBONATE AND LITHIUM CITRATE?

Many people do not realize that lithium itself is not a drug, but is instead a naturally occurring mineral salt like potassium, and is something which everyone needs for proper mental and physical health.

The kinds of lithium which most people have heard about are the pharmaceutical drug forms of lithium, like lithium carbonate and lithium citrate. These drugs are typically prescribed for treatment of mood disorders like bipolar disorder.

Lithium orotate is something very different. It is a special mineral form of lithium which will cross the blood brain barrier. This means that the huge amounts required of the pharmaceutical drug forms of lithium citrate and lithium carbonate in order to effectively treat a condition, are not necessary when using lithium orotate. Instead, only a tiny amount of lithium orotate is needed, as 97% of it gets where it actually needs to go.

One of the main reasons people use lithium orotate instead of the pharmaceutical forms of lithium carbonate or lithium citrate is because of their potential for lithium toxicity and because of their numerous side effects. The large quantities of those drugs which must be used in order to be effective are at near toxic levels with a narrow window of safety. The hope is that they will do more good than harm.

Lithium orotate, on the other hand, is completely non-toxic, very safe in all respects, has no side effects, and is effective for an estimated 70% to 80% of individuals who try it. Because of the small amounts of lithium in lithium orotate, which still effectively treats many different conditions, it is available as an over-the-counter mineral supplement.

In addition, lithium orotate is a mineral which can be helpful for anyone to take. It protects the brain in a number of important ways. It has also been recently discovered that the mineral lithium can actually restore and increase the gray matter in the brain (source of intelligence) which nothing else known to date can do. In addition, taking small amounts of lithium orotate provides anti-aging benefits to the brain, as well as protecting the brain from numerous toxins, and more.

Please check the links at the left for specific information about uses for lithium orotate, the various benefits of lithium orotate, medical questions and answers, inexpensive sources of lithium orotate, safety concerns of usage and other articles.

 How is Lithium Orotate Used?

A standard dose of lithium carbonate (for bipolar disorder) might typically be from 600mg to 1200mg daily. This provides 113mg to 226mg of elemental lithium.

A 120mg tablet of lithium orotate usually has 4.5mg--5mg of elemental lithium.

 
The standard dose of lithium orotate for bipolar disorder would typically be 3 to 5 tabs a day which provide 13.5mg--15mg to 22.5mg--25mg of elemental lithium. Despite this small amount of elemental lithium in comparison to the large amounts in the pharmaceutical forms of lithium, dramatic results are still achieved.

Doses of lithium orotate usually range from 2 (1 tab twice a day) to 6 (2 tabs three times a day), with 3 to 5 tabs a day being the norm.
 
A psychiatrist who has been treating the conditions mentioned above with lithium orotate for the last ten years, says he uses from 2 to 8 tabs a day for patients, with 3 to 4 day being the most common.
 
To receive the benefits of anti-aging for the brain, neuroprotection from toxins etc., 1 tab daily is suggested.

Also, a daily supplement of 300-400 mcg folic acid is recommended as it enhances the brain's ability to utilize the protective properties of lithium orotate.
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * *

This site is receiving many questions about dosage for lithium orotate. This website was not created by a doctor. The information posted here is simply the standard dosage recommendations from some of the manufacturers of lithium orotate and what psychiatrists who treat with it typically prescribe.
 
Check with your doctor before implementing any medication changes!

It is very important if you are currently on medication, to work with your doctor regarding switching over to lithium orotate.
 
Also, be sure to consult with your doctor if you will be taking any other medications regularly for other conditions.

At this time, it is recommended that PREGNANT AND NURSING WOMEN NOT TAKE ANY FORM OF LITHIUM.
 
Also, no form of lithium should be used by individuals with significant renal or cardiovascular diseases, severe debilitation or dehydration, or sodium depletion, and by individuals who are taking diuretics or ACE inhibitors. Be sure to consult your doctor before use if you are taking anti-hypertensive drugs, anti-inflammatory drugs, analgesic drugs or insulin.
(http://mysite.verizon.net/res003jh/lithium-orotate/index.html)
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Darcy Sutherland
02-15-2014
01:28 AM ET (US)
My daughter, 29 just discovered that she's approximately 4-5 wks pregnant. She's been taking lamictal for the past 2 plus years for severe bipolar mood swings. She had taken Meth for approximately 5 months. She got off of that and the psychiatrist placed her on lamictal for her extreme mood swings. Very extreme!!! She greatly improved after a year and by the second year had more improvement in her cognition and ability to function with much less mood swings excluding her PMS depression which natural progesterone cream and 100 5HTP seemed to help alleviate. My question is, is it safe for her to begin Lithium Orotate? Her doctor told her to immediately stop the lamictal and the 5HTP. 4 days into it she is getting progressively more depressed, her major anxiety and fear of everything is getting overwhelming for her. Do you have any advice in which direction I can point her. Unfortunately she is newly married and this is a bit frightening to her husband and new daddy. Thank you for your time and any advice you can offer. God Bless!
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James Fraser
01-29-2014
10:29 PM ET (US)
My Naturopath came up with my conversion dose. I was taking 900 mg of Carbonate, my Orotate are 120 mg with 5 mg elemental lithium. She started me at 5 tabs/day. I had blood work done and my lithium level had dropped down to .2...the usual recommended blood level is I think .7- 1.2, so we increased my dose to 6/day. haven't had any more labs done, I'm due for that plus an appt with my gastro md in the next month or so, so I will report back in. But the bottom line for me is that I have been on orotate for about 8 months, with no incidences of any kind....and I just feel more stable.
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rose
01-28-2014
11:41 PM ET (US)
I wanted to know how many of lithium orotate is equivalent to 1200mg Lithium Carbonate.
I purchased lithium orotate from vitamin research products.
The label says 1 cap is 130mg providing 4.8mg elemental lithum
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Beverly
01-06-2014
09:38 PM ET (US)
I've been searching the Internet for answers on whether Lithium Orotate can cure Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Has anyone here tried it for that problem? I'm not asking for myself, but for a family member. Thanks for any comments you have.
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Walter
01-02-2014
01:42 PM ET (US)
Funny, I try Li Orotate and I have a tremor with 15mg Li, funny with hot coffee :)
So it seems to do something, quite a surprise.
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Meldene
12-19-2013
12:17 PM ET (US)
I purchased the same Lithium Orotate that John Gray uses...does anyone know if it is safe to take LO with armour thyroid medication?
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Chelleco
11-21-2013
01:08 AM ET (US)
Hi James...Here is the video that I watched: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijMbycw2boM
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