I'm presently n Lithium carbonate, 525 mg/day. I need to find a replacement, and I've tried Lamictal, Depokote with zero success and horrible side effects.

My neuphrologist said my kidneys are functioning at 40 -50% capacity. I've been on Lithium since 1987, with a year off to try other meds in 2006 after I was told my PTH was way too high and I needed another alternative.

I have no clue about Lithium orotate and its effectiveness. Another choice is Truehope with its EMPower. Both of these cholices sound scarey to me, but I may have no other choice. I had a kidney and bladder scan last week which will reveal more info this coming week.

Has Dr. Wayne Federer, Ph.D. published anything on orotate yet? Just wondering.

If you have any experience with few options to explore, please email me at:
4ryanhouse@earthlink.net

Edited by author 05-06-2009 09:35 AM
SHIPPER,
First off I would strongly recommend taking LO formulated by Dr. Hans Napier. I buy Advanced Research NCI Dr. Hans Nieper Lithium Orotate 120mg 200 TABLETS for $10.99 from luckyvitamin.com. NCI actually supplies findserenitynow.com w/their LO but less than ½ the cost. I like Natural Calm too and I can’t sleep without L-theanine (Suntheanine). I mix all of these w/no probs. Dr. N actually recommends taking magnesium w/LO. Another supp you might want to consider is Trace Mineral Research Concentrace trace mineral drops b/c it will make all of your supps work better and you need mineral balance vs taking a lot of one like magnesium in the Natural Calm. Vitacost.com has the best prices around but unfortunately they don’t sell LO just lithium aspartate. FYI, L-theanine CAN lower serotonin levels which will negate tryptophans effects so take them separately. Also make sure that your Krill Oil is Neptune krill (NKO) oil otherwise it's a waste of money and your tryptophan should be TryptoPure tryptophan. The best all around multivitamin is from Nature's Way called Alive!

You can email me for any questions/comments: jhobbs@kkahand.com

Edited by author 03-06-2009 06:58 PM
Hi. My husband and I have just started taking LO. I get mine here for ten bucks a bottle and the tablets are very small! (I can't take most pills or capsules). http://brightspot.org/Merchant2/merchant.m...de=L&Store_Code=GOH

We noticed within a week of taking one tablet every morning how much even-keeled and calmer we were and how our desire for alcohol vanished!?

I've noticed A LOT with me! So much so, that I now know what I WAS like before the LO and how LO has helped with them! (Like Anxiety, Depression, racing thoughts, compulsiveness, fast talking and thinking, depression, mood swings, bad PMS). So NOW I wonder if maybe I didn't have some mild form of Bi-Polar or Anxiety/Depression?!

It's really lowered ALL my PMS symptoms, that is nice!

We have always been against psychiatric drugs and would use natural alternatives like GABA, L-Theanine, Valerian, 5-HTP, L-Tryptophan things like that. But NOTHING has worked as well as LO, so I'm gonna stay on it and add one tablet of Krill Oil and Folic Acid, along with my other vitamins.

Thanks so much for the posts and info here! I didn't realize you could take other supplements like Natural Calm (we have that) WITH LO (I take my LO in the morning), or take L-Tryptophan WITH LO.

Question: I suffer from hormone-related insomnia, can I take a 2nd LO at night WITH say: Natural Calm AND L-tryptophan and say: a 1 mg of Melatonin Plus (by Schiff has L-Theanine and B6 with the Melatonin) tablet at night to induce sleep?

Email me, please, anyone who could give me more helpful advise on using LO!

shippermd@yahoo.com

Lithium orotate increases serotonin in the brain. So basically we're just increasing serotonin when we take lithium orotate. Serotonin effects mood, appetite, pain, sleep...you name it. No wonder lithium orotate works so well. It's all about serotonin so consume protein (amino acids) rich foods. Tryptophan is an amino acid and protein rich foods contain tryptophan which the body converts to serotonin. Very important point here: Your body CAN NOT produce tryptophan on its own. It MUST come from foods or supplements. Lithium orotate is a good way along w/eating protein rich foods for your mood. I personally take a tryptophan supplement and lithium orotate.

Has anyone had success with Lithium Oratate when Bipolar I when the regular psychiatric lithium didn't work? I am extremely depressed and exhausted and anxious almost all the time, but can't take antidepressants because of agitation, total lack of sleep and mania.

Edited by author 01-22-2009 01:34 PM
"What is the theraputic dose for 165 pound person w/adhd?"
Sandy, according to Dr. Wright you should start w/one pill 3x day. I personally have ADHD and depression and I take 6 per day but I weigh 210 lbs. You can safely take up to 8 per day. Just start low and work up gradually untill you feel good. Your body will give you feedback.

Lithium orotate vs lithium aspartate?
Most naturopathic physicians (if not all) recommend lithium orotate created by Hans Napier over lithium aspartate. LiOr has been more extensively studied and received superior results in patients.

What is the thraputic dose for 165 pound person w/adhd?

 

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I was wondering does anyone know the difference between Lithium Oronate and Lithium Aspartate regarding which one is better absorbed by the body, or takes specific pathways?

cool post dude

I and a couple of my patients have had lowered thyroid function when taking 4 or more Lithium orotate. Has anyone else had this effect. It doesn't seem to happen at lower doses. I have reduced the dose to two and added kelp to feed the thyroid. Then added Epa to the protocol or in my case flaxseed oil as fish oil makes me too hyper.

 

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Edited by author 09-23-2008 02:50 PM
Magnesium and lithium are chemically related and they compete in the cells for absorption. With that said it is recommended by Dr. Wright to take magnesium along w/your lithium orotate. You don't want magnesium being unabsorbed by the cells due to lithium. I highly recommend a product called Peter Gillham's Natural Calm which can be purchased at vitacost.com. It's simply the best mag supp on the planet. And don't forget that fish oil is recommended by Dr. Wright as well to prevent lithium toxcicity. I personally like Carlson's Very Finest Fish Oil (liquid form). I take 2 teaspoons daily. It's a lot cheaper at vitacost.com as well. Hope this info helps.