Coast Guard (Navy Wannabe), man we tell u on every forum u post on and as u can see u are not getting any positive feedback....DONOT get your hopes up high and donot please donot bank on making a career out of being a Mail-man..oh im sorry, Letter Carrier...the post office really does suck...imagine Bootcamp, total control by a bunch of idiots in management (wannabe drill sgts) for your 30 year career...if the Post Office doesnt contract your job out and if your body doesnt fall apart...dude, if u want a postal career pursue another Craft (job)...anything besides carrying mail...im a Carrier transferring over to Maintenence..im telling u like so many others from experience and our blood, sweat, and tears...THIS JOB AINT WHAT PEOPLE THINK IT IS....IT BLOWS !!!!!

how long so you have to stay in one area of the country, before transferring to another post office?

always retake the test because the higher score will be your new score.

hello,

I was wondering what are my chances if I scored 80 on a recent postal exam in Portland, Oregon of actually being hired, do I need to re-take the test again? Scheduled to take the test in seattle soon, please let me know thanks

I resigned from federal employment in December 2004 because management was too flimsy and counter-productive. I want to return since learning my formr stupidvisor has been terminated. I do not want to go back to the same station; is it possible to be reinstated at another station for my skills and experience?

Have you called your local bar assoc.? usually there are very few lawyers who deal in postal EEo. Check him out with your local union office first before you hire him. Hope this helps


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I am new to this site. I filed an EEO and need to find a good lawyer to handle my case. Any suggestions? I am in Mississippi and need a lawyer asap. Thanks

katie?

Edited by author 04-29-2008 11:17 AM
you wouldn't be the first one to drive it everyday. btw, the woman who resurrected the VetRepComm from dormant came from your facility

i wish i could transfer there drb

Edited by author 04-29-2008 02:32 AM
wages are the same nationwide. but ot varies from facility to facility. I've heard anecdotal evidence of carriers and mhs both working a lot or none, depending on where. would you rather work outside, in the elements, basically on your own, or inside, in an almost factory-type environment? do you want to work days (carriers), or 2nd or 3rd shift (mhs)? want sundays off? (carriers don't work sundays except for few newbies doing collections and delivering express mail)

as far as vet treatment goes, I don't know how prevalent epicon's description is; you'd have to hear from others, esp where you're looking to work. I know vet's aren't treated as such where I am. we even have a vets rep committee to help vets with vet-specific problems. and we have an honor guard and rifle squad for ceremonies on Memorial Day and Veterans' Day, which mgmt supports

good luck

Edited by author 04-28-2008 04:06 PM
thanks to all vets for responding to my questions. can anyone out there give me any insight for the Portland, Oregon mail processing plant, and which job is best to work for overtime? I am wondering if I should take a city carrier position or a mail handler job, and what are the hourly wages, do they differ btwn cities? Do vets really get treated like dirt, in every post office or just looked down upon, from reading the many posts here, I am not sure if I really want to work in this hostile enviroment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nepovisors run the place- put in charge by their family members in upper management. Vets are blackballed and treated like unwanted diseases (thanks for protecting your country) and told "your lucky to have a F-cking job" because they had some 1 else in mind most likely another family member that they quickly would elevate to nepovisor or stupidvisor. If you think you can advance in their nepotistic world keep dreaming, they're already plotting how to eliminate you from service as you would earn to much of their money

and the vets that "run" the place are the workers. bosses are all twenty-somethings who, after seeing what the work was like, decided that standing around watching was much better

/m391 I'll assume you served during the first Gulf War 1990-1992.All people who served during that time period are 5 point vets.They change the requirements for each war or conflict.You can only get 10 points if you are getting a disability.

I was curious about the Coast Guard eligibiliy for Vet Pref and I found the info in the link on my previous posting. After you go to that link, look at paragraph 771.1, which is on page 256 of 305 pages.

Here is a link to help you determine your Vet Pref status regarding points.

http://www.chicagopostalworker.com/Subject...Emp%20Placement.pdf

 Pay particular attention to Section 48. It sounds like you would be a 5 pointer based on what you wrote.

 As a 5 point Vet Pref, you would take the exam. You must score at least 70 points to pass. Whatever score at or above 70 you get, they then add 5 points to the total. Your name is placed on the register with everyone else according to your score (with the 5 points added).

hello,
first of all thanks to all vets that provide other vets with info that they need to know for joining the post office, I just recently took the test in Portland, Oregon, my question is am I a 5 or 10 point vet? I put in my 20 and retired, but I have no disability, but I get a retirement check from the govt, but is not a VA penision check, so I guess I get only 5 points correct? My next question is there a separate list just for us vets or a combined list with all the other people that took the test, and I did claim my vets pref, from what I read here, I always thought that the vets ran the post office because so many joined and made it into upper management? Any comments or suggestion would be very much appreciated, how soon would I get called?

They do not have access to your Medical Records from the VA. furthermore the VA will not release any information about you other than your Status ie. discharge and Rating. If they do get your records the P.O is in violation of Federal law.
if you are going for your medical exam give as little information as possible. If you are deemed not hireable by the postal service, Call your congressman/woman. they are also bound by law to help you. Thats how I got hired. hope this Helps

I'm guessing that depends on whether you claim disability (10 pts) or not

First of all thank you so very, very much for you help. Next thing is do you know a quick way, to get your medical records from Veteran's Affairs. And do you know if the post office has are right to request you medical records so they can look at them? Or is it just a process to get the job?

Here are a couple links to get you started. The first is for EL-312 Employment and Placement Handbook. Don't let the "handbook" part fool you, its a pdf file that is 305 pages long.

http://www.chicagopostalworker.com/Subject...Emp%20Placement.pdf

 The second is EL-307, Reasonable Accommodations. Its another pdf file. It will seem a lot of the information is the same, but some parts are different.

http://www.chicagopostalworker.com/Subject...0Accommodations.pdf


 I got these links form the www.chicagopostalworker.com website. It has a lot of good links for publications. You should take some time and read these pubs that I gave you links to. When I hird on, I went directly into the maintenance department, but as far as I can tell, these are postal wide publications that cover everyone.

Oh, by the way I am applying for city carrier. If that helps any.

And do you have to send your medical records to them when they ask you for it?

So where in the world do I find this information at? Because for some reason, I think I am going to have some very, very serious problems. Do you have a site I can go to, or can you email me that information. Please. Thanks for the help by the way.

Where do I find this information at?



       
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Remember that if you have to go a route similar to mine, for every correspondonce you write, always quote the pub and paragraph number for each point. This will help to keep then from saying, "thats just not true". It would also probalby help you by letting them know you've done your homework and are prepared to fight for the job. If your successful and get hired, you'll find there are alot of rules and publications, but a lot of personnel don't know what they are. And either the hiring personnel don't know what they are or they try to act dumb to see if you'll just go away quietly.

Here is a short stroy that turned into a long one.

Like epicon66 was saying, they will try to stop you from hiring on. When I was being hired, I had to do the medical exam that your getting ready to do. I was rated at 30% by the VA. The doctor checked me out and told me she was required to make a medical assessment of whether I could do the job I was being hired for for at least 6 months with no expectations of problems from my VA ratings. The doctor stated in her report that I currently showed no symptoms or abnormalities to prevent me from being hired, but since I was rated at 30%, there was no way to be sure.
 The post office hiring official took that info and tried to deny hiring me, by simply stating that I was not fit to work at the post office. I had already expected that and had read up on the procedures the post office must take to deny a vet pref with 30% or more rating. The post office didn't follow precise procedures, by not following the proper timeline for my appeals. I also requested a "reasonable accommadation" for my ratings with specific requests to overcome what might be considered a disability. I didn't really need them, since I was asking for reasonable accommadations for things that would not interfere with my performance. I don't have diabetes, but it would be like me asking for permission to bring a hypodermic to work with insulin to overcome that disability. Not that I'm downplaying diabetes. So I played that card. The reasonable accomadation request has to go to district level personnel instead of the hiring official. The hiring official has to give a very good reason for not hiring a 30% or more rated vet. Since I had requested the reasonable accommadation, there was no good reason for not hiring given, and had pointed out some facts regarding their "illegal" hiring practices in the same letter, the matter was dropped and I was hired within 2 weeks.
 Not every story will go this way, but this one is mine. Read up on the hiring practices and pay particular attention to hiring vets, hiring timelines for denial, and reasonable accommadation requests.

they will try to say you are unfit for service but fight them

Also, will this medical check up stop me from getting the job at all? I get 60%. Don't know what to expect. It has me nervous. What do I need to say to them?

What should I expect during the post office medical examaniton. And why do they want to send a copy of your rateing from Veterans Affair. Can this stop me from getting a job? Is this the last step?

C'mon fellow Vet we are just bustin your B_lls a little humor never hurt anyone- much. besides if you do ever get hired you'll find out what the rest of us have about working at the Post Office errr as a cotton picker on potters plantation- Vets are blackballed, family members run the PO and if you had any up in HR then you wouldnt even be having this conversation. But good luck.

thanks to steve martin for for his advice, since I am a tough skin person, the people that responded saying that I cant add, well I had a tough monday morning, just seeking some advice from some vets and I get a bozo response for not adding my numbers up, well that just goes to show you that this web sites sucks.....

besides not being able to add which is a strike against you (unless you want to be a nepovisor) you are a vet which the postal service is trying to eliminate from service so as downsizing continues they dont have to deal with the "Burden" of dealing with rules pertaining to vets.

/m372 Congratulations! You have already failed the math test.LMAO

Not true you want to score as high as possible because if anyone scores higher than you they will be hired first. If you score 77points with your military service points, you will be placed at the top of the 77 scores providing another vet with 10 points doesn't bump you

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hello - I am about to take the test and I will get the vets 5 point preference, my question is: If I score say 72 plus my 5 points gives me a score of 78 am I am then place on the list with the others or is their a whole separate list just for vets? And from my understanding of this, they must exhaust the list for veterans first before hiring regular people, is that correct? So if I just passed the postal exam, it really doesn't matter what score I get, I will get hired first before the other people correct? Any advise on this would be helpful, thanks so much.

YOU are right frank isnt a Vet and has stated to his stewards that he feels there should be no Vet Pref status and all employees should be treated equal. He is corrupt and in the back pocket of management, im sure he got paid off well for burying that grievance dealing with the 1000 Vets who were unlawfully denied their Vet Pref status by HR. Initially he told the HR manager that what he did was illegal now after he buried that grievance he recently stated that he feels it was just a small error by management denying the Vets their Pref status.

For intell and anyone else, from the horse's mouth:
http://www.opm.gov/veterans/html/vetsinfo.asp#Word
OPM has other links as do some of the other US agencies.
Many states have veterans outreach pages that summarize
benefits of veterans preference eligibles.
For epicon66: Frank has always been down on preference
eligibles...funny thing too, him not being a veteran of
anything. Also funny in that one of our National APWU officers
is a strong advocate of veterans rights...Cliff Guffy from
Oklahoma.
The big problem with preference is the Union most of the time
doesn't know anything about a preference vet's problems UNLESS
he get's HIRED, and in Buffalo,NY, they do their best to keep
DISABLED vet's out, even when you can DO THE JOB. Their medical
officer, a female management minion, postulates on most disabled
vets that they will someday have an on the job problem because of
their injury, and they don't get hired. We recently had a case of
a vet who they wouldn't hire for a carrier vacancy because of his
injury in the service, even though the military stated he was fit
to serve....BIG STINK AND NEWSPAPER PUBLICITY, PLUS TV COVERAGE
LOCALLY FORCED AN ABOUT FACE AND REEVALUATION, AND HE WAS HIRED.
nuff said.

Edited by author 03-26-2008 04:58 AM
Aren't we involved in 2 wars- how many Vet returning from these wars? but the Vet workforce numbers are steady decreasing at a major rate. Are Vets really as stupid as the PO is attempting to claim? I scored 100% on a Vet Pref only exam but was unlawfully denied Pref status and eliminated from the job- How many others was this done to throughout the U.S. I was told it was done to over a 1000 here in Buffalo by our head HR manager (errr add dick to the head part as his first name really is richard)- for his role in doing this to the Vets!!!. Last name rhymes with DUMBASS without the B - Alledgedly but for real.

2002 workforce- 751,980
2002 Vets- 223,796
2006 workforce- 695,890
2006 Vets- 179,348
 so total workforce jobs lost= 56,000 of those Vet jobs lost=45,000 The postal service claims that its the Vets who at fault for not getting hired when in fact it is their unlawful hiring practices that are keeping the Vets out.

go to the site map on the left side of the Postal reporter lead page and see the rapid decrease in Veterans under the Veterans rights section this is why the PO unlawfully denies Vet Pref status to Vets and Blackballs us out of Maintenance positions.

Yes thats true like 2 years ago they sent me an excess letter but then cancelled- why would a Vet waive preference your next waive would be goodbye as your getting the boot out the door.

True you can be excessed but only after non pref. eligibles have been excessed

Excessing: As a Veteran with Preference, you can be excessed from your job and even your installation, but you have to be placed into the same level pay. You may waive your Preference to be place into a Lower level job.

I was a SSG in the Army, Bncoc honor grad, have over 900 hours of correspondence courses, extensive commendations and certifications on my job competency including 5 consect. commendables on division command inspections. scored 94 and 95 on last 2 SDT exams. but after going before the PO review board for 2 1/2 hours and told how very impressed they were with my extensive qualifications i received an "ineligible" and told they didnt have to tell me my exam scores or why i received the ineligible rating or why they wont let me transfer.

Thanks for the conversation and "intell"

I did electronics for the 12 years active duty but even though ive taken the tech exams and have been on the "switch over to custodial" list for a few years they refuse to transfer me over, theyve only allowed non vets to switch over- my belief is they hope to do to cust/maint what they did to the Postal police once all vets are gone. Time to get going - got to go "get on the Clock"

So you are a non- compensible 10 point vet

The union went upstairs and had it corrected on paper designating me as a Vet Pref Eligible. I was denied any Vet status along with over a 1000 others(as told to the APWU pres and myself by HR) as far as i know im the only 1 here in Buffalo that got hired- i was active duty from 1984-1996.

how did they "give" you the status when the union is not incontrol of ratings and tests? where you a 10 point vet when you were hired?

The union later "gave" me the status after i agreed to write up the supervisor directly responsible for the injury i had to have surgery for, since they were after him for other things.

if the grieveance is beyond StepII he is correct. if its not you can file an appeal. If not you can wait until the grieveance is settles you have 30 or 60 days from the settlement to appeal.

I filed the grievance showing they denied the status from me after i scored 100% on an exam that you have to be Vet Pref for but HR claimed that since he was hiring me as a clerk PO regs state he didnt have to give me the status. The APWU Pres said it could take years to settle -I went out for surgery and like 2 weeks after i was out they finalized errr buried it giving me 5 months back senority(only) i didnt find out about it til i came back to work like 6 months later. A lawyer told me since i signed on for the grievance i was bound by their finalization.

But you have direct recouse..... if you have the grieveance number you can file a labor charge against the union and he will have to awnser to the NLRB. Union presidents are not above reproach

When your APWU president isnt a vet and makes statements that he is against Vet Pref Eligibles because they have certain rights over a non vet employee and buries a grievance showing the PO unlawfully denied Vet Pref status to over 1000 Gulf War Vets you realize he's as corrupt as management for denying the status to the vets for the sole purpose of keeping the Vets out of the PO so they can downsize the workforce at will without repercussions from VA or MSPB..

That is true only if you were on the ground in country. Or were in direct support. A Vet is a Vet. but there are several factors that can preclude you from preference. According to the law unless you were on the ground or in support OR you have an expiditionary medal. you are a 5-point Vet

A Vet is a Vet but War time Vets errr Vet Pref. Eligibles such as Vietnam or the Gulf (90-92)are designated as such by the President for certain time frames of the War- that would make the difference along with certain rights/protections.

Thanks

As a 5 point veteran you are a preferance eligible but you dont have super seniority. you do have some linited recourse through MSPB. But to be honest, until you get a rating of at least 10%, 30% or more is preferable. you very welll may be excessed. Remember if you are excessed file a stepI grievance. and file a MSPB appeal under adverse personel action. hope this helps.

All that is still in process?

I normally do not respond to STUPID people. You seem to want to jump in where you do not belong. Sure your mother always told you if you can not say anything nice then just keep your mouth shut. I did not step on you and your problems so if you can not help then just fly off somewhere else. Never heard or saw anything that said a veteran is not a veteran War time or not. This site is about helping other veterans not about giving them further grief, we had enough while serving and trying to get help for serving our country.

BigSurge,

do you have a VA rating at all even 0% ?

Stop trying to freeload off of the Goverment,if you have a bad back that means you cant carry mail= BA_BYE....try pulling that crap at UPS and see what happens to you..BTW if you were claiming a ""bad back"' in 2001 what war were you in?

Right now since 2001 I am fighting with the VA. I was not informed about keeping a copy of my medicial records at my discharge. I had went on sick call serval times concerning my back. At this time they can not find my complete medicial records. All they have sent me is that last form you have to fill out at discharge. We are in the appeal stage and awaiting word. This has been a very stressful process and contining to pray that a light will be at the end of the tunnel.

first question are you a compensible veteran?

Any veterans on limited/light duty going through the postal service excessing? Would like to hear how it is going and what is going on? What rights do the veterans have and etc.

I'm willing to take the test almost anywhere but the problem is USPS only offers the rural carrier test on a (every 3 or 4 months)regular basis. The mega exam that I took is only offered once a year. I am hoping that several people scored in the 70's so I could at least be interviewed and have a chance at a job.

take the test again when offered and WHERE offered. how for would you be willing to commute?

I took the mega exam in Tallahassee, Fl and scored a low 76.3%. Does that mean I scored too low to receive a letter for interview?? I'm thinking maybe just give up and realize I won't be interviewed with a score in the 70's. Any thoughts??

It means you are not the person they had in mind for the job whether you scored higher on the exam or not.

I received an Ineligible rating. Don't understand. What does this mean? I am already on as a rural carrier but did not want this position I wanted the electronic tech position. Did this affect this?

Thanks for the reply Epicon. I think the manager's attitude must have been over my vet preference, that's the only thing I can think of. He was nitpicking my application trying to find any little thing to take issue with. I told him when he looks at my record as a casual over the past 3 years, he will notice I have a good record (never taken an unauthorized day off, etc.) After that I asked him if he's a vet, he said no. So I wouldn't be surprised if he has the same line of thinking as the other management you mentioned (i.e against vet preference, etc).

Oh well, if they pass me over it's not the end of the world, I'm also eyeing a state job. But I will still file a complaint or inquiry with the APWU or whomever I have to, just to point out this unfair treatment of vets.

if they dont hire you go to VA see what you can get from them on this matter.

Edited by author 03-03-2008 04:50 AM
Ted im a vet pref also the postal service here denied me vet pref status when hiring me saying that this was legal since they in fact did hire me although not for the job i wanted. after fighting for my status i finally was "given" it after i agreed to write a statement against a supervisor for negligence. since being hired (10 years ago) ive learned that the postal management is against pref eligibles because they have to afford and abide by certain rules which they dont want to during such times as excessing etc. it is my belief that due to nepotism running the postal service they have screwed vets over since the law changed in 1996 making gulf war vets pref eligible. I filed a grievence about this after the union president and i were told by human resources that they denied pref to over 1000 gulf war vets during 1997- 2000. Instead of letting this grievence go national the union pres and human resources buried the grievence when i went out for surgery and never notified me but on the bright side they back dated my senority 5 months- errr 5 months of senority at the bottom left me still at the bottom of the senority list but im sure the corrupt union president got paid off well.

Edited by author 03-02-2008 08:14 PM
I'm a disabled vet w/ preference. I've been working as a casual for the past 3 years steady. I took the 473 exam last year and was called to an interview last week for sales/distribution clerk position. During the interview, the station manager was a real @sshole. Not sure why, I was nothing but kind from the moment they called me into the interview room (after keeping me waiting 45 minutes past my appointment time without even acknowledging that I was there). Not sure where his bad attitude came from but I managed to hold my tongue during the interview, even when he asked me an "illegal" interview question (if I'm married/have a family) I still went along with it.

So here are my questions:

1) I doubt that I will get this position, but how long should I wait to hear anything from them before giving up and looking for something else? As I said it's been a week...actually almost 2 weeks now. At the end of the interview one of the guys sent me for a drug test and that was it, I wasn't really given the chance to ask any questions about the process from there.

2) Since I have vet preference, and in fact I know that I am first on the register in my city, if I don't get this position will my name go back on the register in its original place?

Thanks for any info. and good luck to everyone who is testing/interviewing!

Here is an interesting video on youtube.com on how not to run a union meeting. It is from the APWU Local 197 July 2007 meeting. Look how the President does not let the members do a motion when he does not like it. Here is the link for the video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PvRU7g64vo4

Or you can do a search for apwu197

RodW /m326 DPerkins has provided excellent information. Another thing to consider, both cities that you speak of, Jax and Tampa, have a very high number of military retirees and veterans. So their hiring registers could be top heavy with others with veterans preference. Unless there is a high turnover of postal employees, you may be waiting a long time. If there was another area that you could be interested in, that would not have so many veterans and retirees, your chances should improve. Maybe HR can aim you in the right directtion.

Edited by author 02-22-2008 03:37 AM
RodW:
Career craft employees (i.e., clerks, mailhandlers, carriers, etc.) must be hired from a "register of eligibles." This is a list of applicants who have taken the postal exam. The list is in score order sequence augumented by veterans preference, except that disabled veterans (who have a passing raw score of 70) are placed at the top of the list ahead of all other applicants.

When you take the postal exam, you identify the jobs you wish to be considered for as well as (normally) 3 offices you wish to work at. When a career vacancy occur, a register is pulled based on the job and office with the vacancy. If it is a job and office you selected, then your name will be on the register. A selection is made from one of the top three scores and a preference eligible cannot be passed over to select a non-preference eligible (without a suitable reason). Scores are normally valid for two years, but an extra year can be requested after you have been on the register for 1 and 1/2 years.

You need to find out who handles exams for Jacksonville and Tampa and check your status (this function may now be at the HR shared service center in Greensboro). They can tell you what jobs and offices you chose and if you are still "live" on any registers.

Being a casual is a good move (with one caveat) and your assumption is correct that the better Christmas casuals are kept after the Christmas season. The only drawback is if your work performance/attendance deteriorates they could give you bad evaluations (or even release you). Then, that information could be used to passover you for a career job.

GOOD LUCK
Retired HR-Guy "Duck Soup"

Edited by author 02-22-2008 01:40 AM
how many gulf war vet. pref eligibles (1990-1992), not just regular vets- there is a difference- were hired after 1997 when the law was changed. i was hired in 1998 but was denied vets pref. along with over 1000 others here in buff. management and the union buried the grievence i filed about this while i was out having surgery. Their both corrupt.

/323 That's right. After you become a career employee your Veterans Preference is no longer any good for job selection.

Edited by author 02-16-2008 09:44 PM
My question is, “can someone give me guidance and or direction on becoming a career employee”? I am a US Army veteran with a 30% service connected disability rating. I am interested in a CAREER position within the postal service. I was offered a casual clerk position in St. Petersburg, Florida in September of 07’ which I accepted. This was after I had taken the postal service career exam (battery 473) in Jacksonville, FL. in 2006 and again in Tampa, FL. in 2007. In each instance I scored in the 90’s which includes my veterans’ preference points. I was recently transferred to the Tampa, FL. P&DC with 4 other casuals whom the postal service did not let go after the holiday season. It is rumored that the good casual employees are kept, while all others are released until the next holiday season. This speaks to the fact that I must at least be a decent employee and able to do the job despite my disability. I feel I have done all the things required to become a career employee, yet nothing has happened. Can someone here direct me to a point of contact who may be able to help me to get my foot in the door? I will accept any position offered to me with the exception of a driving job. Due to my military injuries I am blind in my right eye which placed a restriction on my driver’s license and hinders me from employment in driving positions. Any guidance, advice and or assistance will be greatly appreciated.
rod.wilson@yahoo.com

God bless

Edited by author 02-16-2008 06:41 AM
I took the tech exams then went to the review board- they said they were very impressed with all my training that i had more than they see come through then i promptly received an ineligible rating. It seems they are attempting to keep pref elig out of the cust/maint craft. as you wrote Legal? Fair?????

66- I can feel your pain. I only scored a 98 on the exam and with my 10 disability points I had a 108 point total. While in HR the supervisor gave me the scoop. They had never hired custodians off the street. start as craft and apply. Some converted as soon as they completed probation. Legal? Fair?????

Edited by author 02-13-2008 07:25 AM
By the way i was "given" my vet pref status by the union in 2000 after i wrote a statement against a supervisor for the union and they used it against him. prior to this both the union and management keep telling me that since i was hired as a clerk they didnt have to give me the status- which i felt was a right given for service during the war by the president not for human resources to pick and choose.

I was active duty (SSG) U.S. Army from 1984-1996 including the gulf war, after getting out i was hired by the postal service in 1997 but was denied Vet. pref. status after i scored 100% on the custodial exam and instead hired as a clerk. 2004 i filed a grievance after Human resources told the APWU president and i that they denied the pref to over a 1000 gulf war vet pref eligibles (they said it was by mistake but i feel it was purposely done to keep the vet pref status personnel out). The grievance was finalized (buried) after i went out for elbow surgery with only a 5 month senority back date for me. I wanted to get switched to custodian and go for technician as i did electionics for the 12 years i was in the service. I retook all the tech and cust. exams and still wont be allowed to switch over even though numerous others (non vet prefs)have been switched- my feeling and a few others feel it maybe because the Postal service wants to do to the cust. and techs as they did with the postal police and eliminate the career jobs. Any others with this situation?

To All,
As many veterans know, whenever they file an EEO Complaint regarding a matter that could also be under the jurisdiction of the Merit Systems Protection Board (constructive suspension of more than 14-days, removal or constructive removal, etc) the Postal Service has been forcing these individuals into the M.S.P.B. arena, whether they want to go there or not. Once before the Board, they find that the Postal Service is arguing that the Board doesn’t have jurisdiction (even though they forced the employee into the M.S.P.B. arena), and the employee finds they have to argue that the Board has jurisdiction (even though they didn’t want to go to the Board in the first place). If the full Board finds that they don’t have jurisdiction, the employee then has to appeal that decision to the OFO (even though the Board doesn’t usually advise employees that they have the right to appeal to OFO), asking that the case be “un-mixed”, placed under the jurisdiction of the EEOC, and remanded to the EEOC’s District Office for a hearing.
How much time has been wasted by the employee, the agency, and the Board just force the employee into a circular path to the EEOC?
Recently I was contacted by an attorney for NEEOISO who told me that he AGREED WITH ME (regarding a similar argument made recently to OFO in one of my cases). He too thought it a waste of time and resources and seemed to want to change how these circumstances have been handled (after all, the Postal Service wants to try to save money too). He asked me to provide him with the name(s), location(s), and contact information regarding any employees who are in similar circumstances.
So I am requesting that all of you put the word out that we are looking for preference eligible employees who have filed EEO complaints, but contrary to their choice of process, have been essentially forced to appeal to the M.S.P.B. Please have them contact me at –
J.R. Pritchett
postalemployeeadvocate@juno.com

Can someone explain the delivery time for express on observed holidays. Is this the same as every other day?

  had to take a new job due to on the job injuries and military injuries,I have had to go on antidepressants,and blood pressure meds due to taking this job.But yet they will deny me a custodial job

and he will be making new friends in jail. they will be lining up when they find out what you are in for!!!!!

Johnny#5 that was DUMB. There is so much software in use by govt and private industry that flags keywords no one can get away with porn for long. I hope you have aa lawyer and a job prospect. Good luck

Postal advocate I have a question for you.

I'm a preferenced veteran supervisor removed for viewing pornography on computers. The OIG investigated on Mar 22, 2007 in which I confessed to everything because it was true and I had no representation because I knew nothing about NAPS. After the investigation I was told I couldn't talk to anyone about the case. After speaking with the Postmaster, He took me into her office because he stated that I couldn't be charged criminally for anything and it becaomes an admin action. The Postmaster asked me did I do what was on her paper and I stated yes. She then asked me if I wanted to resign or I will be forced to take 2 weeks LWOP. I took the 2 weeks and when it was up asked to return to work but was denied and placed on admin lve for about 2 1/2 mths before being interviewed by her because another supervisor and a manager who sent us both sexually explicit material was interviewed by OIG also. Supervisor was placed on emergency lve and manager was placed on admin lve by his boss. Now we are 1 week away from MSPB and after the judge stated that I may have a case concerning the LWOP as being discipline, the lawyer asked for the paperwork of the leave which had already given him. After reviewing the lve I noticed that it began a day later instead of the day I had my badge and keys taken and walked out of the building. I take this as being a 15 day suspension which I stated to the lawyer I received no MSPB rights. The next day a manager from the P.O. came out to deliver me a check for that time I was LWOPed. Can you tell me why they want to give this money back 1 week before the board hearing? I have confessed to everything and NAPS wouldn't help my case but I no that my Douglas factor rights have been violated. Thanks for your help.

crazy , apply for disibility with po and dav.

 I am thinking of disability retirement for my postal injury,i am 60% d.a.v. can i get unemployability from the v.a. too

Hello, nice site :)

Glenn; how do you know you got a 78? Sounds like you got a letter stating your score, which is proof you took the test???????

Crazy/309
If you are a preference eligible veteran management must provide you with work within your medical restrictions, as long as you are ready, willing, and able to work, and your doctor says that you can work with restrictions. If you have been in a forced leave or in a LWOP status for more than 14-days, you should file a “constructive suspension” appeal and/or an “enforced leave” appeal with the Merit Systems Protection Board. You can go to their web site at www.mspb.gov and fill out the appeal form. You are protected by the Veterans’ Preference Act in this regard. You can also raise disability discrimination as an affirmative defense.
Amy/310 said - “Contact your Union rep only they can help at this point” is absolute Bullsh*t. Very few union officers are sufficiently prepared or knowledgeable about veteran’s rights. She may have meant well but the advice is far off the mark. If you would like more information, you can contact me at postalemployeeadvocate@juno.com.

Contact your Union rep only they can help at this point.

  I am a D.A.V. and am injured and cannot go back to my job,I have been denied other jobs at the P.O. because of my injury now I here I am on the reassessment list what should I do?

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This was posted by a rural carrier on another site but I have an idea it will be helpful to many:

PAYROLL QUESTIONS


Have you ever gotten a Letter of Demand that makes absolutely no sense to you
 or to your manager? Have you ever had $95 deducted from your check with no explanation?
Have you ever wondered what is happening with your paycheck?



With the downsizing of the Finance Department in the Districts, it is often
difficult for a rural carrier or a manager to get answers to important questions about our pay.
Dont fret; there is now a National number you can call directly to iron out the payroll problems
your local managers are unwilling or unable to fix.



The Accounting Help Desk is ready to help you with payroll questions. There
 is even a toll-free telephone number: 1-866-974-2733.
  You will need your I.D. Number and your USPS PIN Number.



Your I.D. number is on the right side at the top of your earnings statement
(pay stub). It is an 8 digit number. The Postal Service is no longer using
Social Security numbers for I.D. numbers.



Your USPS PIN number is the same one you use to access PostalEASE. If you have
 forgotten your PIN number, or if you never got one, dial 1-877-477-3273.
 Your PIN number will be mailed to you.

I have a question to all you Carrier Vets out there. As a PTF Carrier on probation and a paid union member, how can the Union protect me if my Supervisor is hellbent on firing me for being slow?

Amy

Re: Low Morale Carrier - Sorry I couldn't have been of more help & I apoloize for referring you to HR. When we used to have Data Site employees thats where I went to find out about getting paid for a settlement we had coming, but that was several years ago. They knew everything, this one woman that worked there would keep bugging management until they submitted the paper work so she could process the request and get a pay date. I guess its up to the union now, I hope they're trust worthy.

I took the exam in either 2000 is there any way i can get my results?? i need them for another job. I only got a 78 so i was never selected but i need proof that i took the exam for the Post Office.

/m302 Thanks for the advice Top TTO, i called the number, they told me to call my Union.....

Mandy/298 The Postal Advocate Employee is giving you good advice, now if I might add my two cents. File an EEO NOW!!! While you are waiting for the package to arrive in the mail get an attorney. They're expensive but their fees are included in your award when you win, so you'll get your money back. Thats what I did, because when you file an EEO the PO will turn the case over to staff attorney if a settlement can't be reached at the Redress Hearing and you'll want to push this case past the Redress hearing and have it heard by a judge. Don't miss any filing deadlines. Good Luck, based on what you say I think you've got a real good chance, keep us posted.

Low Morale Carrier Call the HR department at1-877-477-3273 option 5.

I am a 10 percent disabled vet
and I won a Grievence through the B-Team on 8/22/07, now management has to add up all the hours in question to come to the amount that i am to be paid (back pay), i was fired on my 81st day of probation for not making dois times, too slow is what management said and I fought it for 2 months and got my job back before it went to the MSPB because i was never actually fired,never got anything in writing, told to surrender my badge and escorted from the building by my supe and manager (who is now our postmaster)and all they did was just remove me from the station senority rolls although technically and according to the Districts records i was still employed, never terminated so now i will be paid wages in leu of EVERY PTF at the station for those 2 months.

My question is how long does it take after the B-Team awards a greivence does it take for the greivant to be payed and how will i be payed, a separate check or will it be apart of my payroll check? There was no date specified in the letter of award and most people are telling me usually within 30 days i should see it.

The union on the other hand is telling me "we must give them reasonable time to add up all the hours and calculate all the monies you are to be paid", so then i ask what is a reasonable amount of time and then my union prez starts the old broken record routine. To date it will be one month from the date i won on September 22.

Any info is appreciated.

Mandy/298
Generally, in order to fall under the jurisdiction of the Merit Systems Protection Board you must have been in the same position for a least one year. To determine whether there are any exceptions to this rule I recommend that you go to the Board’s web site at www.mspb.gov and research cases that are similar. Keyword “probationary period” and it will show a list of cases that you can read through.
From a different angle your husband may want to consider filing an EEO complaint. (Keep in mind that he only has 45-days from the date he was let go to contact a Postal Service EEO Counselor. The number to contact is 888-336-8777.) He should consult with the local Mail Handler union to find out if other employees have been let go during their probation, and if so, how often does it occur. How is your husband different from the employees that were retained during their probationary period? Is your husband different with respect to his race, color, national origin, sex, age, religion, or disability? Perhaps management was aware that he