While we're at it. How about the rotation of overtime on Tour III before this latest realignment. How does the most senior qualified Mail Handler get bypassed for overtime on Tour III when contractually he is the Senior qualified Mail Handler available for overtime and another Mail Handler is the first in the rotation that starts at the same time but is like 20 to 40 down the list.

Before anyone claims I don't know what I'm talking about. I have a copy of the QODL for the period that this occurred. I was told that the steward that was taking corrective action was overridden by someone in the Union. Unified bunch that group. There was a petition which the original petitioner talk to me about but it was to no avail.

What can you do? Well, I wouldn't vote for any of the ones presently in office based on just the two items I brought up but now lots of stuff is coming out that's not even on this internet. Like I said I ran against two of the Officials twice and was soundly thrumped.

Just Saying: Welcome to the forum. I've spoken to Cruz several times. I suggest you might want to do that and get a more complete story. He is aware that stewards are only removed by Local President and said that he spoke with Don Kister. I spoke with Don Kister to confirm some of the information I heard and Cruz is on the up and up.

I have incidents in regards to the present Union Officials and one of them happened at the Branch Meeting. Problem is that there are no minutes. The minutes should have noted who was present and who said what. The issue of seniority rights to a 5 level job was brought up my a member whose name I won't mention here and the issue wasn't never dealth with. Later when Tour II had the same situtation (this is months later) the issue was dealth with and within a week corrected on Tour III.

Guess if your an elected officials you only represent those whose rights are voilated that you felt voted for you. Maybe we should start video taping these meetings because apparently no one wants to take minutes. And if there are minutes they are not easily accessible. Have you tried to get to the Union office without having management tailing you.

If there's no accounting of what is happening then there is no accountability made of our elected and appointed representative who function and are off the floor presumable working for us while we supply them with our dues money.

Of course when you got to deal with your fanasty league, Poker and Chess while in the Union office and stuffing your face. It's well deserved because they are under such stress.

PoppiCRZ let me give you a few words of advice. If you intend on running for those offices you need to become an expert in the constitution. It outlines what you can and cannot do as an officer. The constitution allows the certification of stewards (and decertification) by the local president only. Members don't vote for stewards. If you actually had evidence on the BP as you say, you should have filed internal charges in a timely manner, citing the specific sections of the constitutiion that were violated. Best of luck to you, but make sure you know what you're talking about when it's time to run for office.

poppiCRZ -

One Question. Why didn't the branch president ask the local to decertify you, instead at the national level?

Rather an odd way of doing things especially when stewards who are appointed, serve at the lesiure of the Branch President who can just tell you that you services are no longer needed. Then the Local President signs a new certification of stewards letter without you name on it, and you're history.

Roberts Rules of Order is a method of conducting meetings. A parliamenarian isn't going to be ruling during an election, an election judge will.

U Oughta Know: Please reference where it's not constitutional. The only argument I can find for it is that there might be conflict of duties. But it does not strictly prohibit it. We'll need a parlimentarian to rule on that maybe? What does Robert Rules of Order say? The constitution is on the union website as a link.

                 I would prefer that he would just get an associate to run and beside if he is nominated for both it's not unconstitutional either. Let's have an open and informative forum here. Glad you came on board.

Hey there poppi, good luck to you, Haggarty is a piece of crap, but just so you know, you can't run for both positions.

FYI I am running 4 Branch president in GR & local president. Why? As a former union steward who was decertified unconstituionally by GR Branch President Jimmy"Hoffa" Haggarty for blowing the whistle on him & 2 union stewards @ the GR MPO on tour 3 2 years ago I learned quite a bit about our union and CORRUPTION. I was glad he decertified me 4 I could no longer stomach the "behind close doors negotiations". Here's democracy 4 U, prior 2 being decertified, the union dues paying members on tour 3 passed a petition around 2 have the 2 stewards that had been taking BIGGER settlement payments from the rest of the tour 2 be decer-tified and have me b THEIR chosen rep. Was their democratic position HONORED "HELL NO!" Instead "Hoffa went as far as to post a letter to membership filled with slander.

In case you didn't hear. I seen a paper posted on Mail Handlers Letterdhead stating that

18 Mail Handlers from Detroit to Grand Rapids
1 to Traverse City
6 to Saginaw
17 to Pittsburgh
Maybe 20 to Lansing

Maybe 16 More later to Grand Rapids.

That's up to 62 to 78 Mail Handlers leaving the Metro Detroit area. That $3.1 million or $3.9 Million in lost taxable wages. Allen Park and Detroit are hurting further in the New Year.

This is from your Vice President. I stated some of this 3 weeks ago. Of course did anyone tell you about the USPS document on the web that stated 61 Mail Handlers from Downtown Detroit to the Metroplex. Notice was sent out to the Local Presidents and companys affected dated 7/28/09. I passed the document unto a couple of Mail Handlers down there but maybe you didn't see any posting on your Union board.

Also Management didn't tell you either. SEE NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU. I passed on the information and watch someone will reference me as some vulgar name or cat call me out over passing on information. Haven't you heard KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. But the members are kept in the dark on both sides of the table. The Past Administration wasn't any better than the present in that regards.

Of course I would fail if I didn't mention that we need to watch those guys in Washington DC. How are they any better? Do you see anyting about all this excessing on their website? Try calling them and they treat you like your a bother and they have more important things to do. You better find someone down there who is willing to step up and sacrifice their life endeavouring to help you. You have to wonder if you treat this poster the way you do that anyone would want to take the time?

"Man looketh on the outward appearance but God looketh at the heart" Find that man. No one is perfect. This union is what you make it. Be diligent

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Need pictures of your hands! We are doing a video to expose the dept of labor for denying 50% of our carpal tunnel claims. These pix could be taken against a dark background, in positions of stress as in doing your job. The scarred, cut and bleeding, calloused, cold and ashy precious hands that are the backbone of the usps. Its going on youtube, a moving video with your help. Please send to pfmorris58@hotmail.com

fed ex busines is booming. Did somone forget half the scan tags on the first calss and bulkrate so clerks could have a job?

Hey Detroit gwy, do you know where your job is taking you?