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Shandong Weichai Industry and Trade CO.,Ltd.
We specialize in manufacturing and wholesaling Howo Truck Spare Parts and Howo, Steyr, Steyr King, AUMAN trucks and Parts and Turbochargers of the above trucks ,which are of high quality .telephone:0086-0531-80688517,e-mail:cindysoft@sina.com
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01-29-2007 10:37 PM ET (US)
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We specialize in manufacturing and wholesaling Howo Truck Spare Parts and Howo, Steyr, Steyr King, AUMAN trucks and Parts and Turbochargers of the above trucks ,which are of high quality .telephone:0086-0531-80688517,e-mail:cindysoft@sina.com
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How to make thousands of $$$$ doing nothing at all 1. Keep in mind that everything stated below is 100% legal as stated by the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161). A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! : So I thought,' Yeah, right, this must be a scam', but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway it said that you have to send $1.00 to each of the following names on the list, stated at the end of this article using Moneybookers (our new form of transferring money safely and securely). You dont have to be preferred or verified to transfer and receive money, so you lose no money through transfers. Now honestly, what is six dollars, especially out of a Moneybookers account. In exchange you will make thousands in the first few months. You then place your own name and email address (registered for Moneybookers transfers) in the bottom of the list at #3, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands of newsgroups) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I sent out my measly 6.00 to the three people on the list. Well GUESS WHAT!!... Within 7 days, I started: getting $$$$$ in my account! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the CASH just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $500.00! In the third week I had over $800.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $1,200.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00 and 5 minutes to send it out. This program WORKS, all you have to do is try it, and waste some pocket change. You could find six dollars laying around the house. There is absolutely nothing you could lose. Just follow the 4 basic steps below to make thousands in just a few days, weeks, or months, it all depends on how many posts of this letter you put in message boards. Heres how it works: When you post 200 messages all over the internet, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $2.00. ($30.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $2.00 ($450.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $2.00 ($6,750.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $2.00 ($1,518,750.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $1,518,750.00. Note: I'm not saying this is going to make everyone 1000's of grands, but lets say even 1 person out of 200 tries this program, you are still going to make 50,000 dollars in anywhere from 1 month to 6 months max!!!!! SO SAVE THIS MESSAGE NOW IF YOUR INTERESTED IN CHANGING YOUR LIFE!!! And go to the instructions below to get started immediately. You must send out 6 dollars to the people at the end of the letter before swapping your name in, or else those 3 people will not add you to their list, therefore you will not make any money. INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $2.00 to each of the 3 people on the list using Moneybookers, and in the comment section type "Please add me to your list". Here are the emails that you transfer the money into: #1) prashantdhyani84@yahoo.co.in #2) anilkapoor44@yahoo.co.in #3) sandeep7548@yahoo.co.in 2. Now Copy this letter. All you have to do is save this whole article along with instructions, etc in a word file/note pad on your computer. 3. After sending the money to the 3 people on the list, you can remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2) Then place your name in the #3 position. Then save it. 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google, Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Message board, Money Message Board, Money Forum, Free money Forum, or anything along those lines that are forums) and start posting your copy of this message at lease 200 times, to as many unique message boards as you can, or more. The more times you post this at a unique board, the more money you will make. The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws) P.S. There is no possible way to cheat this program. If you do not follow the instructions exactly, you will not make any money, GUARANTEED.
REMEMBER AGAIN- After you've mailed 2 dollar to each of these people, then you can add your name to the 3rd position, and move the rest up one spot.
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| "Metamucil"
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10-22-2003 11:49 AM ET (US)
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Remember the saying," A monkey can do this job". Well the Post Office went to a local zoo in Washington DC and purchased (Leased) 12 monkeys and sent them to school. After 12 months of intense training they were placed on 4 DBCS's next to the top human producers or mail processers. After 4 months the monkeys started to overtake their human mail processers in processing the mail. Then all of a sudden the monkeys started to lose interest in their jobs. Production fell, they spent more and more time in the tree provided by the PO for their quiet time. Banana peels were thrown on the floor creating a safety hazard. And to top it off, they were fornicating between the machines with their human conterparts. The experiment came to a complete halt and the monkeys were returned to their cages at the local zoo. When returned to the zoo, the monkeys filed EEO's claiming that they were discriminated against by postal officials, including their postal superviser who they claim mimincked and belittled them in front of their human counterparts. They also filed class action Workmans Comp. Claims because of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, not of their arms but their toes! The Postal Service is examining their claims. Whats the moral of this story?
"A Monkey is a Monkey, even if he acts like a human, at least as long as he works for the PO"!!!!! Pass the Banana's!
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Highlights of the Tentative Agreement - Verizon
Job Security
No movement of work for five years; the .7% restriction is maintained. The Job Security Letter (JSL) continues for current employees. New hires are not protected by the JSL. Job security issues may be discussed during the annual April discussions; however, the Company cannot bargain to impasse. Term
5-year contract. Discussions in April 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 about job security issues and wages (in addition to the guaranteed wages). All contract terms and conditions are protected and cannot be modified unless agreed by both parties. No strikes, no lockouts, no unilateral imposition of new contract terms.
Wages and Compensation Over the term of the contract, with the guaranteed annual increases and expected cost of living adjustments, the wage increase will equal 10.6%. Elements of the wage increase are:
3% lump sum upon ratification, payable in October. 2% guaranteed minimum annual increase in August 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, applied to all steps of the wage schedules. A Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) payable in 2006 and 2007. The 2006 payment equals one-half the change in the CPI from May 2004 to May 2006, minus 4%. The 2007 payment equals one-half the change in the CPI from May 2006 to May 2007, minus 2%. Additional wage increases will be discussed in April 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Click here for an online wage calculator to see how the guaranteed increases and potential changes to inflation will affect you. Corporate Profit-Sharing The Corporate Profit Sharing Plan (CPS) is continued with minimum distribution (subject to prorating for partial years), as follows:
2004: $500 minimum 2005: $550 minimum 2006: $600 minimum 2007: $650 minimum 2008: $700 minimum Pension The lump sum cash out option is preserved. Between October 1, 2003, and December 31, 2003, there will be a special incentive window when pension bands will be increased 5%. At the end of the period, the incentive increase will end. The lump sum cashout will be available during the incentive window. Cashouts will be available again on November 1, 2004, and will remain in effect thereafter, through the term of the contract. Between November 1, 2003, and August 2, 2008, pension bands will increase 11.46% on a compounded basis. Annual pension band increases are as follows:
10/1/03: 5% incentive window; expires 12/31/03 11/1/04: 2% permanent pension band increase 10/1/05: 3% permanent pension band increase 10/1/06: 3% permanent pension band increase 10/1/07: 3% permanent pension band increase Voluntary Termination Bonus
Employees who leave voluntarily pursuant to IPP/ISP or Enhanced IPP/ISP offering during the term of the agreement, are eligible for a lump sum payment of $10,000 in addition to any amount for which the employee is otherwise eligible, plus six months of medical coverage if not otherwise eligible. Health Care and Other Benefits
No premium sharing for actives or retirees. Premium surcharge of $40 per month is imposed for spouses or partners of active employees who have access to health insurance coverage through their employers. If the spouse's income is less than $25,000 or if their premium is more than $900 annually ($75 a month), then the employee is exempted from paying the surcharge. This is to encourage workers to have their spouses' employer pick up a portion of the total medical costs for their families. A new PPO arrangement will be integrated with the current MEP indemnity plan. Co-pays will replace 80/20 cost sharing when a PPO doctor is used. This new benefit is a result of the work of the joint Advisory Committees on Health Care, a successful union-management team that developed a win-win approach to health care cost control while assuring quality care. New preventive care benefits will be included in the MEP plan for the first time in the NY/NE contract and are updated in the Mid-Atlantic, as well as updated in the HCN and MCN plans. The new benefits include coverage of one physical exam annually for individuals over age 50, and coverage of one complete regimen of immunizations and flu vaccine annually for children and adults.
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I'm a union member and have belong to a union for 40yrs. But like any buisness, that is what a union is, and their first priority is to survive. Just like the post office and it's managing ideas are out dated so are the unions that represent us. I have read the commissions report and one thing I have to agree with, we have to look at the private sector and compare our contracts and change so we are competing on the same level. If we did we would gain in some areas and lose in others but we will be able to strengthen out jobs by playing on the same level.
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Union Power: Priceless Contractor Corruption
I am a union member working in Maryland. Several years ago, the mailrooms and fleet services were contracted out. We were informed that, in a couple different mailrooms, especially in New Jersey, a large quantity of laptop computers as well as other expensive items had been reported stolen. Also, expensive items turned up missing from my location, and to the best of my knowledge, Security found that it was two contracted employees in the warehouse there.
We were informed that the contracted fleet vendors were found to be double- and triple-billing the company by billing the manager sending the item, as well as the manager receiving the item, as well as billing the mailroom facility manager at our location!! And they think they're SAVING MONEY by contracting these jobs out??
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08-20-2003 05:14 PM ET (US)
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poofed, Well there is always another choice, and I believe that if things keep heading the way they are the working man will eventually be so fed up he will make that choice. Can you say Revolution?
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08-20-2003 02:57 AM ET (US)
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Clerk......No i am not in favor of a one world government.. I agree with what you say...Im just telling you and anybody else who doesnt know what is takeing place in our country,so that they know why they are loseing thier job,s and security.Its been a slow proscess and will go on for sometime.You have no choice but to go with the flow.
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08-19-2003 11:13 PM ET (US)
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I am not missing the big picture. Are saying you are in favor of one world government?
Free trade is anything but free. When you lose jobs in your own country or community, what good is having lower priced goods and services if you have no income? There is a new wave of trade agreements coming around the bend that we need to be VERY careful of, mainly FTAA, which is going to replace NAFTA. It would open trade up to all countries in the western hemisphere, with the exception of Cuba.
How many more jobs are you willing to lose? We, as a whole, need to get this country back to the premise it was built on which was "of the people, by the people, and for the people". We need to take the corporations out of the picture when it comes to citizens rights.
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08-19-2003 08:25 PM ET (US)
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This thing about you can train a monkey to do our job is getting out of control.
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08-19-2003 03:39 AM ET (US)
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Clerk....your missing the big picture. No one is wishing ill will on you or anyone else. Your just in the proscess of experienceing what 20 million others have aready experienced. It,s a globle plan to reduce jobs and wages of major western countries ,so that more free trade can exist in the world. People in poor countries cant buy our products and services if they cost more than they can afford hence our pay must come down and thiers must go up,makeing a more level playing field.Its called...One world goverment Start looking at the products you buy.The service workers are no longer safe as there are thousan,s that will take your place for half what your payed, and they are bringing them in from India,china, mexico. Not as citizens but on work visas.
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08-18-2003 09:57 PM ET (US)
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Pofed, if all you have to offer for advice is "welcome to the real world", just keep it to yourself. That's like wishing ill will upon someone in my opinion.
I, and other postal employees, know all to well the fight and struggles that our fellow Union Brothers and Sisters have had. We are aware of the layoffs/downsizing in the automotive industry, the oil industry, the steel mills, etc. We have fought side by side with them to help them keep their jobs, unfortunately to no avail in some cases.
When corporations want to leave the country that helped build them because they don't want to pay a decent and fair living wage to its employees, there isn't much that can be done when the government gives them the go ahead.
I can only wish you a better life than you wish for others.
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08-18-2003 06:09 PM ET (US)
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pofed, I believe most postal workers have been living in the real world for quite some time. Certainly we have been living with the real threat of death since the Unibomber and the Anthrax letters. I personally have been living in the real world since back before the 1970 postal strike when the average postal workers were below the minimum wage required to support a family. So now we make "middle class" wages, is that too much to ask?
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I read these posts regularly and I am amazed. All I can say is welcome to the real world. Were have you people been for the last twenty years. You all didnt know that millions of people have had there lives disruped with plant closeings and down sizeing. Did you think it couldnt happen to you or didnt you care? The knock is at your door now. Dont worry you will survive,only with a little less security.Like I said welcome to the real world.
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Edited by author 08-18-2003 02:33 PM
Yeah why should the rich get richer and deprive the middle class of a decent life? Why make the poor become poorer? The Republicans just want to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. Yes go to this link capwiz site to write to your Representatives and Senators. You can use the preformatted letters if you wish or make your own. We need to go to work!
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. Regarding Ms. Nielsen's excellent article. I believe her analysis is right on target. I would like to expand on her version of the Bush administration's attack on the Federal Work Force and its plan to reduce it drastically by slash "and burn". Between the quotation marks is my added comment. The Bush attack on Federal workers is also an attack on the potentially powerful Postal Unions. Any Union is an abomination to the privatizing supporters of the current regime and therefore we are considered a threat to their domination of the American economy. We workers in the Postal Service, especially on the East Coast remember the fiasco concerning the attempt to privatize Priority Mail using Emery. It is pathetic that this attack on one of the few remaining blue collar industries that pays its workers a living wage with decent benefits, is under attack by the same people who are trying to undermine our standard of living. We had better be alert this Fall when Congressional hearings are held. We should be contacting our Representatives and Senators to tell them no privatization and no pay or benefit cuts.
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08-18-2003 02:56 AM ET (US)
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Dumbya, where did I hear that term? Oh it is GW Bush known as GW Dumbya. On I see... The President's Commission on the USPS was one of his dumbest ideas yet. I thought the movie Dumb and Dumber was really dumb. But GW Dumbya wins it all now. You Republicans never learn. The economy gets bad with Republicans in control. Yet you listen to their silver tongued smooth talk.
Let's hope US Congress is smart enough to reject the Commission's findings like they did with Reagan's report in mid-1980. It was just tossed out the window.
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08-18-2003 02:17 AM ET (US)
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I believe the Commentary on the Presidential Commission Recommendations was excellent. The attack is on ALL postal workers irrespective of WHAT craft a person is in.
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08-18-2003 12:57 AM ET (US)
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At present I am willing to be a clerk and just dump the mail on a feeder and have no other responsibility.
I hope that this commission recognizes that the maintenance (ETs & MPEs) are the real backbone of this organization.
Let's try and be a little more honest here. ALL jobs in the USPS have a responsibility for getting the mail out. We just have different aspects we are responsibile for.
Clerks have just as much responsibility as ET's, Mail Handlers, etc. If that is your attitude then the clerk craft, or any other craft, probably wouldn't want you.
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08-17-2003 12:55 PM ET (US)
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Maintenance is no more a priority than anyone else, if you don't have people to run the machines you dont need anyone to fix them. You guys have got level increases the last 2 contracts, give me a break. There's not that much most of maintanence has to do that really requires any knowledge. I have yet to see 1 ET have to use any formulas to replace a broken belt.
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08-17-2003 12:54 PM ET (US)
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Maintenance is no more a priority than anyone else, if you don't have people to run the machines you dont need anyone to fix them. You guys have got level increases the last to contracts, give me a break. There's not that much most of maintanence has to do that really requires any knowledge. I have yet to see 1 ET have to use any formulas to replace a broken belt.
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We need a real union that will represent the maintenance department. At present, maintenace union members are treated as the crazy cousins that are in the basement.
At present I am willing to be a clerk and just dump the mail on a feeder and have no other responsibility.
I hope that this commission recognizes that the maintenance (ETs & MPEs) are the real backbone of this organization.
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08-06-2003 11:12 PM ET (US)
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Verizon wants to be able to shift more jobs to other lines of business and to call centers in other parts of the country or world."
-- Verizon spokesman Larry Plumb, reported in BNA, Daily Labor Report, 7/31/03
Jobs At Risk* Maine 150 N.H. 90 Mass. 1,300 Vermont 150 New York 25,200 New Jersey 2,900 Delaware 800 Penn. 8,700 Maryland 7,200 D.C. 1,300 Virginia 6,600 W. Virginia 2,300 Verizon says it needs to be "competitive" and "flexible." We've got to let our communities know that if our jobs are moved, its not just Verizon workers and their families who will suffer. With shrinking local and state budgets and a slow economy, losing good, family-supporting jobs is the last thing any community needs.
Many customers, community organizations, and legislators have already gotten the message. Local, state, and federal politicians have been attending our rallies in New York and Boston, and more are scheduled to do so this week. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy is circulating a letter among other Senators calling on Verizon to protect hometown jobs.
Other unions also understand how important our fight is, both for labor and for our communities as a whole. Today, CWA briefed SEIU leaders representing 500,000 members up and down the East coast.
They're prepared to push the "Fairness at Verizon" campaign (www.fairnessatverizon.com) through their locals on our request, because they recognize that ours is a leading struggle on hometown jobs.
*Includes CWA jobs. Another 15,000 IBEW jobs in the region are also at risk.
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08-06-2003 11:05 PM ET (US)
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"This Is Why We Need Unions"
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PAD, I am afraid you will be very very right. Also has anyone read Mike Causey's most recent report 8-6-03? He mentions that the most recent casualties of the Bush hit list for privitization will be air traffic controlers. I just can't believe how quickly this guy has been able to move in the effort to eliminate all middle income jobs from the federal payroll.
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08-06-2003 08:53 PM ET (US)
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Average american, Even I know that you are intelligent enough to notice that the Commission report is biased towards big business and top postal executives. There is not anything in this report that is good for the craft worker. And, you know that this commission was picked by GW. I also know you have enough brains to know that GW and his congress will do what is good for big business regarding this report. So, no, I will not support any president who so openly despises the working man while all the time doing patriotic photo ops for votes. Lets just wait and see what comes out of this commission, and If I am wrong, I will come out and say it.
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08-06-2003 12:54 PM ET (US)
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I don't know how many of you read the report from the person who slammed the salary of postal employees as compared to private industry. It is the same misinformed individual who has been on the USPS side in contract arbitrations who testified in several instances that his comparison of salary and benefits puts Postal employees way above thier peers. I read his testimony before the commission and it is full of holes. He compared our wages to all companies with 200 or more employees. Of course even us lowly blue collar workers can figure out that there are thousands of companies in the 200 to 300 range that do not pay any benefits nor do they pay above the salary level for the area they are in. We should only be compared to the huge fortune 500 companies and I would imagine we would be way under most of them. I for one would like to see a comparison with other huge labor intensive companies if any one out there knows of the location of such a comparison.
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08-06-2003 12:43 AM ET (US)
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I see PAD is still on his Anti-Bush soap box. Change happens PAD most american jobs will be in india soon and we will all be on welfare and not have to work. I think thats a wonderful thing vacation all the time. So whats your PROBLEM with Bush hes helping us all get that never ending vacation.
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08-05-2003 11:27 PM ET (US)
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skyblue, I agree with you. The USPS is obviously a labor intensive job. Therefore, it makes sense that a good portion of the budget would go to labor.
I was just making the point that all of the figures that are being thrown around by those that want to outsource our work are claiming that 3/4 or more of the PO's money is going towards labor and benefits when it is actually about 20% less than that.
What about the automation equipment that DIDN'T work out well? About 6 - 8 months before we got the AFSM-100's, we had these pathetic auto-feeders for the 881's that actually slowed down production so much that they were removed shortly after being installed. It was ridiculous. How much was paid for those useless pieces of equipment that sat in the basement collecting dust?
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Clerk in MN. I have never understood how an organization that does not produce a "product" but only supplies a service can complain about the percentage of costs related to labor. If we do not manufacture anything, then there are no heavy materials or inventory costs. Obviously our costs should be mostly for labor. Now if GM or Walmart said their labor costs were more than all other costs, i.e., inventory,etc. then they would have a problem. In our case, we move a product, mail, which does not have an Intrinsic cost of itself. Therefore our main costs should be labor, and fuel. Of course no one seems to resent the cost factor in the many generations of machinery the PO has invested in to automate moving the mail. They only seem to object to paying our salaries and benefits, this in spite of the fact that productivity is up.
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08-04-2003 10:35 PM ET (US)
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According to testimony from Joel Popkin (I believe it was him), labor costs make up about 56% of the USPS costs. This was using public records from the USPS.
This is also more in line with what a lot of privately owned companies pay.
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08-04-2003 08:16 PM ET (US)
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postalveteran, NO
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08-04-2003 08:15 PM ET (US)
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PAD, I expect you are right about that. Bush senior lost election number 2 primarily because people in this country vote their pocket books and most felt their pennies being pinched then. That $400 per child won't go very far though and since the lowest income level people still aren't going to get even that, if Bush the junior is going to be re-elected it will be by that phantom "Middle Class"
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08-04-2003 08:14 PM ET (US)
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will we get the right to strike?
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08-04-2003 07:17 PM ET (US)
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In reply to: I am just constantly amazed at the polls, which purport that the majority of citizens still support the current president. Either the pollsters are limiting their questioning to corporate leaders and big business or the average citizen must have their heads up their @zzes to support the policies of this administration. Personally I chalk a lot of it up to the myth of the "middle class". People need to wake up to their true station in life. Either you must work for a living to keep food on the table and a roof overhead, or you are the one who benefits financially from the work of others.
They all keep believing in him because of the tax cut bribes. The average american looks at that as extra money. They all love this administration because it gave them checks. All those checks were is a bribe for support, and a vote in 2004.
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The FLIM-FLAM man cometh. He comes disguised as 3 wise guys selected by the Presidential Commission. They will find a disparity with exsisting wages and give the green light to bring in new hired guns at a lower wage. We will be asked for concessions and give backs at the end of our contract. We will be out flanked from all sides when the rank and file looses membership. Within the next 45 days the gains achieved since 1970 will be tweaked to allow historic give backs. With a 90, 60 and mandatory 30 days for bargaining we will have no choice but to concede. The PRB new suits will become the FAT CATS. They will be multi millionaires after serving 5 years as members of the PRB. That and a personal letter of recommedation from the President will set them up for life.
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| Tim
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08-04-2003 10:15 AM ET (US)
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Ok, So I had heard UPS pays in the hi 60's in labor costs.
Big deal, they are both labor intentsive organizations.
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| Clerk in MN
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08-03-2003 11:39 PM ET (US)
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Post #22
I am sorry but I don't agree with you that there is nothing to worry about with this report. I think we have A LOT to be concerned with!!
We, collectively, need to inform everyone we know to write their elected officials so they know we are watching this issue verty closely. This Commission has received very little press and it is my belief that they are trying to get their recommendations through Congress without the American publics' knowledge.
The USPS is a potential money machine for the private sector if work starts getting outsourced, if salaries and benefits are cut, etc.
We want to expose this issue to the greatest number of people possible, not just USPS employees! Tell your friends, family, neighbors, etc. Don't sit there and wait for something to happen. Do something now before it is too late!
Our jobs depend on it!!
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08-03-2003 10:42 PM ET (US)
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skyblue2u: I hear you loud and clear. It was not that long ago my "middle class" buddies were sitting around talking about how their stocks were doing. They were riding the FERS investment for all it was worth with no background in finance whatsoever. Everyone else was talking stock so why couldn't they? Then--the bust. My friend lost quite a bit-maybe up to $30,000. The "other class" also lost thousands if not hundreds of thousands. They said oh well--my buddies still don't know what happened, but they all say they have to work many more years now because of this. Get real people..we work for the Post Office as peons. We can raise a small family comfortably, but we will never take European vacations every year---that is we COULD be semi-comfortable. If we don't all act together to vote this Brotherhood off the face of the earth we may all be on the streets with the "other" class..the homeless!
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08-03-2003 10:06 PM ET (US)
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oh yeah, the large mailers love the report, if they can mail their stuff for free. Give them a big discount and they will talk like the Presidential commision is the greatest thing since white bread. Big business doesn't care about the postal service they just want thing given to them for FREE. I say kiss my ass rich people and pay your way and leave us alone.
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08-03-2003 10:01 PM ET (US)
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This presidential commision was another waste of taxpayer money, as they will not do anything they suggest. I thought we had something to worry about, but as always it is garbage. I love this country.
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08-03-2003 02:43 PM ET (US)
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Calpatches, Regarding your post #15, I think you hit the nail on the head all the way. I am just constantly amazed at the polls, which purport that the majority of citizens still support the current president. Either the pollsters are limiting their questioning to corporate leaders and big business or the average citizen must have their heads up their @zzes to support the policies of this administration. Personally I chalk a lot of it up to the myth of the "middle class". People need to wake up to their true station in life. Either you must work for a living to keep food on the table and a roof overhead, or you are the one who benefits financially from the work of others. "Middle Class" is a nice little dream they try to implant in our minds to keep us compliant. The only thing that puzzles me about the extent to which the current powers that be are pushing things is that they don't seem to realize there is a breaking point for all of us. If you take away too much hope then people no longer feel compelled to follow the rules and stay in line. As Bob put it in song: "When you got nothin' you got nothin' to lose." Oh well as I have always said when I see those in power trying to strip more and more away from the workers, at least when the revolution comes we will all know precisely which side we are on.
Getting back to those wonderful proposals of the President's Commission, lifting the "cap" on top executive pay while concurrently "eliminating the total compensation premium" for craft workers, is a more blatant example of pushing too far than any I could have imagined. I just can't get over the gall of these people. I realize that they think most of us are too complacent to even read their report, but I take great insult at their attempts to couch their conclusions in such idiotic though admittedly creative language. "Total compensation premium" is a phrase I see destined to enter general usage in all union management negotiations in the near future.
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08-03-2003 11:24 AM ET (US)
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No, I can handle it and have no problem doing either...I think it is called survival.
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08-03-2003 12:52 AM ET (US)
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postman i can get you an app with Walmart as a greeter, nah you couldn't even do that. How about cart boy ???
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08-02-2003 10:52 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 08-02-2003 11:03 PM
It was mentioned in the Report summary that management must try to repair strained relations with labor. That idea was not emphasized enough. It is the central problem. It is way overdue and easy to do: follow the contract, be reasonable, be courteous. Arbitration was left in, thankfully if the above does not occur.
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08-02-2003 07:47 PM ET (US)
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Try not to overcook my hamburger at McDonald's.......if you can get a job there.
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| Lion Steve
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08-02-2003 05:00 AM ET (US)
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July 31st is here
I was referring to the NALC contract expiring in 2006.
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08-02-2003 02:34 AM ET (US)
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Now you can better understand why the United States employment market is in the condition that it is in. Individuals in position of responsibility lacking the honesty and integrity to do what is right for the little man and the American Public. Craft employees have alway been made to pay for the mistakes that upper management make, so why should anyone expect any different especially since it was good old George who selected them and good old George is in a search and destroy frame of mind. With automation we still have an excess of manager to supervisor us. They are falling all over each other getting paid for eight hours for doing sometime only three to four hours of supervising. I believe that no matter what George Bush try to do to harm the working employees in America we shall overcome, we shall survive. Employees within the USPS are fully capable of self managing themselves so why do we need all the levels of unskilled upper management?
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08-02-2003 01:45 AM ET (US)
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Regarding the EAS evaluation payments: It's always puzzled me that management receives monetary rewards from the productivity of craft employess. Most associate offices and branches could run smoothly and efficiently without any manager on site. All that is necessary is a lead employee, per craft, to put in volumes, a hand full of reports required daily and per AP. A decent carrier does not need a manager to tell them what they can delivery in an 8 hour day every day. A good clerk can perform distribution, window services, and mutiple duties that they must handle every day. Since few managers in the USPS motivate, instruct and/or lead craft employees, what outstanding perfomance pay are they entitled to?
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08-01-2003 08:58 PM ET (US)
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Only If we Organized our Scabs!!We would be stronger!!! This fight has yet to begun!!!Congress is listening!!!
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08-01-2003 07:39 PM ET (US)
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i agree Postman, and they should have the kiosks in all brothels and bars as well. That way the people on the Presidential commision can buys stamps.
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08-01-2003 05:40 PM ET (US)
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I think the President's Postal Commission report should be commended. I have been with the Postal Service 27 years and it is in serious need of downsizing. I hope they close at least 15,000 post offices and consolidate the plants. The plants could be run more efficiently by contracting them to large sorting houses. The post offices could be replaced by contract stations offering 24 hour service located in all the Super Wal-Marts in the country and possibly in Mexico, Europe and the Far East. The Report is an outstanding piece of work and it would be good to have them and their team at Headquarters to make the transition. As a Postal employee I praise the President's Commission. The President and Congress should begin immediately to consider the Commission's recommendations.
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08-01-2003 02:35 PM ET (US)
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Sorry that is what pandaspop said
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It all depends on who they compare us too, it probably will be Wal-mart employees when it should be UPS and FEDEX employees.
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Edited by author 08-01-2003 01:59 PM
To The Rebel; Please read the Pay Comparability part of the commission's recommendation: The comparability determination of the Postal Regulatory Board should be enforced as a cap on the total compensation of new employees. In addition, if the Postal Regulatory Board determines that a total compensation premium exists for CURRENT employees, it should be authorized to determine the appropriate period of time during which the premium must be ELIMINATED, and to review periodically its initial determination and the Postal Service's progress in eliminating the premium. THIS MEANS THEY WILL BE LOWERING CURRENT EMPLOYEES BENEFITS AND WAGES....WE CAN ALL EXPECT PAY CUTS FOR THE WORKER BEES AND EXTRAS FOR THE QUEEN BEES!!! AKA RAISE THE CAP ON MANAGEMENT SALARIES.....THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WORKING FOR THE WORKING CLASS FAMILY....NOT!!!
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08-01-2003 10:47 AM ET (US)
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Our contract ends Nov 2005
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08-01-2003 10:30 AM ET (US)
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The part of the Postal Commission recommendation that bothers me is comparability of our pay. Who will they compare it to? Will it be UPS or Fedex, or will it be sorting houses that hire for close to minimum wage? From what I hear UPS pays their employees proportionately more than us and Fedex is close to us. I know we have job security and that counts for something. I can't speak for all but I know that as automation clerks we bust our humps for the pay. It is my belief <hope> that Congress will not act or act minimally on the pay part of the recommendations.
When I think how the Commission wants to RAISE pay for top execs who just keep getting us in more fiscal messes I go crazy. thanx for letting me vent!!!!!
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08-01-2003 09:26 AM ET (US)
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it seems to me that the comm. wants to reduce benefits for future employees not so much for people already employed.
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| Lion Steve
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08-01-2003 05:14 AM ET (US)
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I believe that the contract provisions will remain in place until 2006. A contract is a contract. After that, who knows what will come down. I just glag that I'm up for retirement next year. Young people just starting out with the USPS should seriously thing about obtaining other training for future employment.
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08-01-2003 12:46 AM ET (US)
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I hope the contract protects us until it expires in November, 2006. Our benefits should not be on the table. I don't understand the impact of the new Regulatory Board on our wages.
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08-01-2003 12:04 AM ET (US)
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We need to stop them from getting this Postal Regulatory Board, they could be real trouble.
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