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Joe  2870
09-06-2009 08:14 AM ET (US)
I suspect that "justaregular" isn't close to 2080 or missing dispatch. I think he's just being harassed. With the low-volume-summer-doldrums/recession most people aren't working even close to the evaluation.

He asks how EVERYONE is dealing with being pushed to go faster. I think this is some PM with some new game he's trying. Maybe this PM thinks he can come up with some data on just how fast this guy/office can go.

Thats how they busted the city carriers. They pulled out a bunch of data showing how long it took a certain guy to carry a route then said he had to meet that schedule constantly.
pabakPerson was signed in when posted  2871
09-06-2009 10:26 AM ET (US)
Joe... it's called "demonstrated ability." Hasn't been tried on the rural side YET. Doesn't mean they won't in the future. Though it HAS been used against us in arbitration.
sam  2872
09-06-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)
I agree with Joe on the plan to inform on these do nothing supervisors. IT WOULD WORK. Most of them are uneducated buffoons, promoted through poor hiring practices, cronyism, affirmative action, etc. and HAVE NO BUSINESS HAVING THE JOBS THEY DO TO BEGIN WITH (even if the jobs WERE necessary)
baffled clerk  2873
09-15-2009 08:37 PM ET (US)
yeah, Sam, I agree with you.... but, WHO do you go to to inform on them??? the OIG bounces it back to the district consumer affairs people who in turn contacts the offender with a heads up. then, what do you do?
Joe  2874
09-19-2009 08:56 PM ET (US)
We inform on them by entering the offenders name and offense in a local union database. Once a month the information is sent to the local POOM with notice that copies are being sent to the Distric officials, Washington postal officials, and the local congressman. Things will eventually get embarrassing for the POOM, and District officials. Sooner or later someone will HAVE to start investigating. State Union officials could start sending letters asking why nothing is being done to protect the revenues that are being wasted.

  They like to get us on video, nowadays it would be quite easy to do the same to them. I got a supervisor that ties up the phone line for hours talking, whispering, laughing etc. When he's off the PM calls in a cute little 204b who literally doesn't know how to do anything. They pay this person $30/hr to just look HOT
baffled clerk  2875
09-19-2009 11:30 PM ET (US)
that's interesting, JOE. what part of the country are you in? out west here, never heard of such a thing. guess I'll call the union rep and check on it.

have you actually had any investigations because of this database reporting? what were the results?
Joe  2876
09-21-2009 06:25 AM ET (US)
No baffled clerk, there is no such system in place. I am saying in post #2868 that we NEED a system like this. A UNION led, coordinated, official system. Sam is just agrreeing and says it WOULD work.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/253579/ Here is an article about 80,000 dollar a year PM positions being filled that the author claims don't have 4 hours work per day. These Managers will run this organization into the ground before they will cut their own. Yet they justify their existence by penny-pinching me during rural counts, torturing the city carriers, and gutting the clerk craft.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a coordinated system to combat this prime example of BS? Official Union letters to the POOM asking why this money is being wasted, with copies being sent to Area, Washington postal officials (potter), and Congress? Alas, will never happen. This effort would have to come from the top
MA rural  2877
09-24-2009 11:18 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-24-2009 11:20 AM
Did anyone see the new FSS standard? 69 flats per minute. Where did they get this number?

It's posted on ruralinfo.net
hi  2878
09-24-2009 02:32 PM ET (US)
yes this came up at least as long ago as the convention and the nrlca has filed on it and it's top priority. the information is on the national website.
nuhuskerPerson was signed in when posted  2879
09-24-2009 10:47 PM ET (US)
what I would like to know is--what has the association done about the summer sale that we are carrying all of this EXTRA pre-sort standard mail for NOTHING--every day is a mailing, dish, direct tv, extra boxholders.
As the steward in my office, I have had 2 regulars withdrawl from the union, 2 others are talking about it, and the only 2 subs, are getting the paperwork ready for their upcoming anniversary date!!
hi  2880
09-24-2009 10:54 PM ET (US)
They're doing the same thing about summer sale as they will the upcoming first class mail sale ---------------- nothing.
pfmorrisPerson was signed in when posted  2881
09-28-2009 05:55 AM ET (US)
Hi everybody I am in the middle of a w/comp mess with carpal tunnel and trigger thumb.I can't seem to get a doctor to use the correct catch phrases and convince the dept of labor that after 22 years as a regular my job caused this. The docs seem to regard the dept of labor as a situation best avoided.This has to be a widespread discriminatory practice.Is workers comp a mirage? I have had an appeal hearing, turned down again and have written my senators.I would have lost my home by now if hadn't saved vacation & sick leave.This has to be a class action practice by these bastards.
cougress  2882
11-06-2009 07:54 PM ET (US)
I'm an RCA and I am assigned to a route. Does the post office I'm stationed at have the right to schedule me for a different route without asking me first?
JB  2883
11-06-2009 09:27 PM ET (US)
cougress; Are you interested in what the contract says or what usually happens unless you file a grievace?
finally retired  2884
11-07-2009 03:49 PM ET (US)
it depends on if you want to stay employed. Be glad you have a job, and be thankful for the hours..
cougress  2885
11-08-2009 02:34 PM ET (US)
I do not like to file greviances and only will if I have to, so far I have not. I am thankful for the hours, but I have another job and how am I supposed to know if I am scheduled if no one lets me know? Yes, I am very interested in what the legal outlines have to say about the subject.
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