FAO Ron Walker

I feel I should add light to some comments you have made.

Modaco wasn’t the original place that decertifying was published, it was actually in the Microsoft newsgroup, someone from there then posted it onto modaco.

Orange allow people to unlock there phones over there own web site for free, no need to register. although you do have to agree to the terms and conditions.

I was under the impression orange and Microsoft were supporters of modaco, and orange even have a link to the modaco web site on there own web site.

Whether there is a conspiracy or not I believe that is a matter for orange and modaco, not for those not if full possession of the facts.

Which in reading your comments you are not.

FAO Ron Walker

I feel I should add light to some comments you have made.

Modaco wasn’t the original place that decertifying was published, it was actually in the Microsoft newsgroup, someone from there then posted it onto modaco.

Orange allow people to unlock there phones over there own web site for free, no need to register. although you do have to agree to the terms and conditions.

I was under the impression orange and Microsoft were supporters of modaco, and orange even have a link to the modaco web site on there own web site.

Whether there is a conspiracy or not I believe that is a matter for orange and modaco, not for those not if full possession of the facts.

Which in reading your comments i believe you defiantly are not.

FAO Ron Walker

I feel I should add light to some comments you have made.

Modaco wasn’t the original place that decertifying was published, it was actually in the Microsoft newsgroup, someone from there then posted it onto modaco.

Orange allow people to unlock there phones over there own web site for free, no need to register. although you do have to agree to the terms and conditions.

I was under the impression orange and Microsoft were supporters of modaco, and orange even have a link to the modaco web site on there own web site.

Whether there is a conspiracy or not I believe that is a matter for orange and modaco, not for those not if full possession of the facts.

Which in reading your comments i believe you definitely are not.

Yes, I've had the same statement - it's up now. Still doesn't prove that Orange isn't doing trials of a non-Microsoft smartphone. In fact, I pretty much guarantee it is. But Julian Hope seems not to be the guy who authorised that email.

My suspicion? He will be in charge of a Sybian smartphone trial, and the email was accidentally sent out when someone failed to cancel it - but that's just my suspicious mind!

sorry for multi posts, im having server trouble today.

FAO Ian.S
1) The Microsoft newsgroup is "synched" to the Modaco forum - and the newsgroup posting claims "ALSO" to have recieved the email. As the email has now been revealed as a hoax... that makes the poster a liar, because NOBODY recieved it. The spurious email was posted - in full - within a few minutes at both Modaco and on the Newsgroup - around 4.30pm on Friday 13th. So, if it DID start on the newsgroup, someone jumped the gun - claiming to "also have recieved" something not yet claimed in the other place.
2) Orange allow people to "unlock their phones" in exchange for a FEE. The ONLY UK telco to unlock phones at no charge is Virgin. Orange also require a payment for every month of unexpired contract. As contracts run for a year, there aren't any SPV's in the UK to which this does NOT apply.
3) As recently as January this year, Orange were issuing "formal warnings" to tech support reps if they commended Modaco to customers. I know because in January I WAS a TSR, and I received such a formal warning.
4)Unless things have changed dramatically, the only Orange Website that is linked to Modaco is the English language section of Orange (Switzerland) SA's SPV "hints and tips" page. That certainly was the state of play in February - and in January Orange issued a press release condemning the availability of tutorials on how to "decertify" the SPV - they didn't mention Modaco by name, but everyone knew who they meant. At that time, telling a customer how to reset their SPV was grounds for *summary dismissal* by Orange - yet the information was freely available from the Modaco site.

Somehow... I don't think it's ME that's not in full posession of the facts.

FAO Guy Kewney

IM NOT GOING TO GET INTO A SLINGING MATCH WITH YOU SO I WONT POST ON THIS TOPIC AGAIN. I DIDNT INTEND TO RIDICULE YOU, I FELT YOU WERE BLAIMING MODACO RATHER UNFAIRLY, AFTER ALL THE MODACO FORUM IS PROVIDING ALOT OF HELP TO MANY PEOPLE WITH SPV'S. I ATTEMPTED TO CLARIFY POSTS YOU HAD MADE AS THEY DIDNT HAVE FULL TRUTHS. I HAVE DONE SO AGAIN BELOW. FIRST IS EXTRACTS FROM YOUR STATEMENT THEN MY BITS IN CAPS AFTER IT.

1) The Microsoft newsgroup is "synched" to the Modaco forum - and the newsgroup posting claims "ALSO" to have recieved the email. As the email has now been revealed as a hoax... that makes the poster a liar, because NOBODY recieved it. The spurious email was posted - in full - within a few minutes at both Modaco and on the Newsgroup - around 4.30pm on Friday 13th. So, if it DID start on the newsgroup, someone jumped the gun - claiming to "also have recieved" something not yet claimed in the other place.

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE A LEAK FROM O, BUT I DONT KNOW. EVEN IF BOTH WERE POSTED AT OR ABOUT THE SAME TIME WHY BLAME MODACO? YOU HAVE SAID YOURSELF IT WAS ON THE NEWSGROUP FIRST. MODACO AND THE NEWS GROUP TEND TO SHARE USERS, SO WHEN SOMEONE READS ON ONE IT TENDS TO GET TRANSFERED TO THE OTHER.

2) Orange allow people to "unlock their phones" in exchange for a FEE.

DEPENDS WHAT YOU MEAN UNLOCK. IF YOU MEAN UNLOCK TO ANY NETWORK, THEN YES YOU HAVE TO PAY. SOFTWARE UNLOCKING CAN BE DONE FOR NO FEE OVER THE ORANGE WEB SITE.


3) As recently as January this year, Orange were issuing "formal warnings" to tech support reps if they commended Modaco to customers. I know because in January I WAS a TSR, and I received such a formal warning.

MAYBE BUT IVE SERTANLY SPOKE TO PLENTY WHO SAY THEY PROMOTE MODACO. I KNOW MANY ORANGE STAFF USE MODACO TO (EXPECIALLY IN THE EARLY DAYS) AS MODACO USERS COULD SOLVE PROBLEMS CUSTOMER SUPPORT HADNT EVEN SEEN BEFORE.

4)Unless things have changed dramatically, the only Orange Website that is linked to Modaco is the English language section of Orange (Switzerland) SA's SPV "hints and tips" page. That certainly was the state of play in February - and in January Orange issued a press release condemning the availability of tutorials on how to "decertify" the SPV - they didn't mention Modaco by name, but everyone knew who they meant.

MODACO WAS NOT THE SOURCE FOR PHONE UNLOCKING NOR IS IT THE ONLY SITE THE INFORMATION IS AVAILIBLE FROM. ITS TRUE IT IS THE BIGGIST SMARTPHONE FORUM, BUT THAT’S BECAUSE THERE IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON IT TO SOLVE MANY PROBLEMS. AS I RECAL IT WAS A SWEEDISH GUY WHO FIRST FIGURED OUT HOW TO SOFTWARE UNLOCK THE SPV, AND THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON THE MICROSOFT NEWSGROUP LONG BEFORE MODACO AND THE NEWGROUP WERE SYNC'ED

ALSO AS I RECALL, THE NETWORK UNLOCK PROGRAM WAS FIRST POSTED ON A FRENCH WEB SITE, A WHILE BEFORE ANYONE ON MODACO PICKED UP ON IT.


At that time, telling a customer how to reset their SPV was grounds for *summary dismissal* by Orange - yet the information was freely available from the Modaco site.

NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE, BUT FIND IT ANNOYING THAT ORANGE WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE TAKING ACTION TO SORT THERE PHONE, EXPECIALLY WHEN THE SPV IS SO PRONE TO GETTING ‘CLOGGED UP’ DUE TO THE OS AND THE FUNCTIONALITY.
 
Somehow... I don't think it's ME that's not in full possession of the facts.

THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN IN MY OPINION.

Edited by author 06-18-2003 05:31 AM
Thanks for posting that.

Incidentally, if you want to post comments, you can use standard HTML tags to mark your parts in Italic typescript if you like or even bold typeface if you prefer Or if that doesn't work for you, you could even try underlining the text if you want to emphasise something.

For example, <b>Here's some bold text</b>, or <u>Here's some underlined text</b>.

But please DON'T SHOUT!

:-)

Guy

Further developments in the Sendo vs Microsoft case are discussed here

It looks like the new date for the Microsoft hearing is in about two weeks, by the way...

how do u unlock a sendo s330 for nothing?

By ringing customer support. If it's on Virgin (which most Sendo 330's seem to be) and if a PAYG a/c has been "topped up" by a total of at least £30, or accumulated pay-monthly charges are over £30, Virgin will unlock it for free. Pity none of the other carriers share the policy. Most charge between £20-£25.

i was unable to accesss my inbox,picturesand sounds.what do i do to access these packages from my phone?
Also,i am unnable to make snaptures and save it .what is wrong;and phone keeps writing that the BRPS coiuld not be opened .what does it mean?

You don't tell us what kind of phone you've got, or what network you're with, (either of which would have been kind of helpful.) This is the kind of information that most carriers deal with for free on their technical helplines. "BRPS"? Are you sure that's not "GPRS"? If so, it's a secondary channel, intended for moving data around at a high speed than the channel used for voice calls. You also don't tell us where you ARE - if it's somewhere where the carriers don't use GPRS (and there are many such places) then you'll get a "no signal" message. For most users, this is no big deal... unless you like sending MMS "photomessages". They're transmitted using the GPRS signal.

Nokia n92..............$210usd
Nokia N70..............$140usd
Nokia N71..............$155USD
Nokia N90..............$180usd
Nokia N91..............$200usd
Nokia n80..............$200usd
Nokia 6682.............$180usd
Nokia 6830.............$160usd
Nokia 7700.............$130usd
Nokia 1110.............$105usd
Nokia 1600.............$115usd
Nokia 2125.............$125usd
Nokia 2255.............$100usd
Nokia 3128.............$100usd
Nokia 5140i............$125usd
Nokia 6101.............$135usd
Nokia 6030.............$100usd
Nokia 6060.............$110usd
Nokia 7280.............$127usd
Nokia 7600.............$90usd
Nokia 7610.............$100usd
Nokia 7710.............$110usd
Nokia 810..............$125usd
Nokia 8800.............$135usd
Nokia 8910i............$145usd
Nokia 9210i............$142usd
Nokia 9300.............$145usd
Nokia 9500.............$170usd
Nokia N Gage QD........$128usd
O2 3G Datacard.........$127usd
Orange Blackberry......$200usd
Orange 3G Datacard.....$165usd
Orange SPV C500........$145usd
Orange SPV M2000.......$134usd
Panasonic X60..........$129usd
Panasonic X70..........$134usd
Panasonic X300.........$124usd
Panasonic X700.........$152usd
Samsung D410...........$145usd
Samsung D500...........$160usd
Samsung d500...........$180usd
Samsung E310...........$134usd
Samsung E330...........$132usd
Samsung E600...........$128usd
Samsung E630...........$123usd
Samsung E700...........$125usd
LG 8150................$156usd
LG 8150................$145usd
LG G8000...............$134usd
MDA4...................$130usd
Mitac MIO 8930.........$280usd
Motorola A600..........$146usd
Motorola A630..........$148usd
Motorola A760..........$150usd
Motorola A780..........$154usd
Motorola A840..........$162usd
Motorola E1............$134usd
Motorola MPX...........$125usd
Motorola MPX100........$120usd
Motorola MPX300.,......$115usd
Sony Ericsson J210i....$120usd
Sony Ericsson J300i....$122usd
Sony Ericsson K300i....$123usd
Sony Ericsson K508i....$132usd
Sony Ericsson K600i....$128usd
Sony Ericsson K608i....$127usd
Sony Ericsson S600i....$134usd
Sony! Ericsson V600i...$132usd
Sony Ericsson V800i....$137usd
Sony Ericsson W800i....$140usd
sony Ericsson w600i....$138usd
sony Ericsson p910i....$140usd
Nextel i930............$130usd
Nextel i870............$120usd
Nextel i860............$110usd
treo 600...............$150usd
Treo 650...............$160usd

feel free to contact us by E-mail:julietmobile02@yahoo.com

Dear Sir/Ma,
We are MANCHESTER ELECTRONICS LTD. We are dealers
of mobile phones (wholesalers and Retailers).We deals on all brands and
models
of mobile phones such as Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony
Ericsson,Sagem,Nextel,Sidekick II,Sprint and many more at very cheap
prices.
We are using this medium to look for buyers of mobile phones. Do kindly
contact us if you are interested and as you do you will be glad as we
shall
serve to your satisfaction, you can reach us through our email:
garryone123@hotmail.com tel: +447024062548.

Prize Lists
Nokia 1100-- US$55
Nokia 2100-- US$45
Nokia 2300-- US$60
Nokia 3100-- US$65
Nokia 3108-- US$60
Nokia 3200-- US$75
Nokia 3230-- US$95
Nokia 3300 - US$85
Nokia 3310-- US$25
Nokia 3315-- US$29
Nokia 3330-- US$30
Nokia 3350-- US$35
Nokia 3410-- US$35
Nokia 3510-- US$40
Nokia 3510i-- US$45
Nokia 3530-- US$50
Nokia 3595-- US$45
Nokia 3610-- US$55
Nokia 3650-- US$185
Nokia 3660-- US$195
Nokia 5100-- US$65
Nokia 5140-- US$110
Nokia 5210-- US$40
Nokia 5510-- US$105
Nokia 5550-- US$50
Nokia 5170iR-- US$39
Nokia 6020-- US$130
Nokia 6670-- US$105
Nokia 6630-- US$175
Nokia 6100-- US$80
Nokia 6108-- US$90
Nokia 6220-- US$105
Nokia 6230-- US$110
Nokia 6260-- US$135
Nokia 6310-- US$69
Nokia 6310i-- US$70
Nokia 6500-- US$60
Nokia 6510-- US$60
Nokia 6600-- US$135
Nokia 6610-- US$80
Nokia 6630-- US$175
Nokia 6170-- US$145
Nokia 6650-- US$82
Nokia 6800-- US$105
Nokia 6820-- US$110
Nokia 7200-- US$185
Nokia 7210 Turquoise--
US$100
Nokia 7230-- US$120
Nokia 7250-- US$120
Nokia 7250i--
US$120
Nokia 7260-- US$135
Nokia 7280-- US$155
Nokia 7600--
US$165
Nokia 7610-- US$195
Nokia 7650-- US$160
Nokia 8250-- US$65
Nokia 8310-!
 - US$90
Nokia 8910 Titanium-- US$160
Nokia 8910 Blac!
 k-- US$1
65
Nokia 8910i-- US$185
Nokia 8890-- US$115
Nokia 8800--
US$220:00
Nokia 8850 Special Edition-- US$105
Nokia 8850 Gold Edition--US$120
Nokia 8855-- US$125
Nokia 9210 Communicator-- US$195
Nokia9210i Communicator-- US$195
Nokia N-Gage-- US$110 Nokia 9300
(communicator)-- US$200
Nokia 9500 (communicator)-- US$210
SonyEricsson P800-- US$155
Sony Ericsson P900-- US$205
Sony Ericsson
P910i-- US$210
Sony Ericsson T20e-- US$35
Sony Ericsson T20s-- US$39
Sony Ericsson T28s-- US$39
Sony Ericsson T28 World-- US$45
SonyEricsson T29s-- US$49
Sony Ericsson T100-- US$30
Sony Ericsson T105--US$35
Sony Ericsson T200-- US$45
Sony Ericsson T230-- US$55
SonyEricsson T300-- US$55
Sony Ericsson T310-- US$50
Sony Ericsson T600--US$69
Sony Ericsson T610-- US$130
Sony Ericsson T630-- US$135
Sony Ericsson T68i-- US$105
Sony Ericsson T68m-- US$110!

We have all brands of Mobile Phones,Ipods,Sidekicks,Nextels phone,Laptops for sell at cheap and
affordable prices, they ranges from Nokia/Samsung/LG/Sony
Ericsson/Motorola/Alcatel/panasonic With Bluetooth, all
Brands and Models of Nextel Phones, we want you to get back
to us with your quote so that we can begin a good business
relationship. Note they are all Brand New T2 Euro specs,
unlocked, no operator logo, come in their
original sealed box, With 1 year international warranty
from the manufacturer, English & Spanish manual, Finland
made.
We want to assure you that you will never regret buying
from us because the delivery will be to your doorstep via
FedEx Courier service.And the Tracking number shall be sent
to you upon acknowledgement of your payment.
Kindly acknowledge the reciept of our mail and get back to
us at jennyclacksonmobilestore@hotmail.com
NEXTEL 1930 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$120USD
NEXTEL 1960 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$130USD
NEXTEL i870 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$140usd
NEXTEL i450 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...90usd
NEXTEL I830 FOR A VHEAP PRICE OF.....$100USD
NEXTEL 1860 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$105USD
SAMSUNG SCH i830 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$220USD
SAMSUNG MM-1940 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$190USD
SAMSUNG SGH D307 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF..$180USD
SAMSUNG SGH D720 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$170USD
SAMSUNG D500 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$160USD
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$130USD
MOTOROLA MPX 220 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $120USD
MPX 300 FOR CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD
SIDEKICK 2 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$120USD
SONYERICSSON P990 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$210USD
SONYERICSSON W900 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$190USD
SONYERICSSON Z500a FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180usd
SONYERICSSON Z520 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$190USD
SONYERICSSON P910 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$140USD
SONYERICSSON P800 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$130USD
SONYERICSSON K750i FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$110USD
NOKIA 9500 COMMUNICATOR FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
NOKIA 9300 COMMUNICATOR FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD
NOKIA N70 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $130USD
NOKIA N80 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $150USD
NOKIA N90 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $160USD
NOKIA N91 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $170USD
NOKIA N92 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $190USD
NOKIA 7360 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$170USD
NOKIA 7370 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
NOKIA 770 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$160USD
NOKIA 6682 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD
NOKIA 7380 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$200USD
NOKIA 8800 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$130USD
NOKIA E60 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$160USD
NOKIA E61 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
PAMTERO 600 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$120USD
PAMTERO 650 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD,
XBOX 360 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF............$200USD
for more details contact jennyclacksonmobilestore@hotmail.com