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Deleted by author 06-29-2016 10:56 PM
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
05:05 AM ET (US)
/m2736 My point was, that even if there are FTF there, it can't possibly be very many people & doesn't really apply to any other plants or AOs.
08:23 PM ET (US)
thanks again guys. I am in a level 18 and there will be one PTF and I will be a NTFT. Steward just said I am to be guaranteed 40 hours.
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
06:26 PM ET (US)
So strike the 's'.

Feel better Ms. English?
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
05:49 PM ET (US)
Isn't there only one REC now?
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
05:07 PM ET (US)
/m2733 'Full Time Flexible 40 hour NTFT' may not mean FTF to /m2731. Might mean type of NTFT whose hours are more flexible than the others.

BTW. Good old FTF are alive and well in the Rec Centers.
SpringgPerson was signed in when posted
03:27 PM ET (US)
1) No. It is purely based on what your bid duty assignment said when you got the job. It can be 2 or 4 hrs (based on level of office) or up.

And stop with the "Full Time Flexible", you are a NTFT with bid hours. You are not a FTF, those are gone; mindset. Mgt must tell you the Wednesday prior to the beginning of the next week of any changes in hours and/or off days. Otherwise you get out of schedule pay.

2) You have no more than a 1 hour lunch. It could be a 30 minute lunch. Again it depends on what your bid job (duty assignment) says.
SpringgPerson was signed in when posted
02:56 PM ET (US)
/m2729 THANK YOU! and /m2730 EXACTLY!

Here's something to blow minds. If your in a larger facility (lvl 21+) and a NTFT is in your section, management cannot mandate people not on the OTDL in a Function 1 and 4 areas. If they do it can be grieved and money is not only paid to the OTDL person for by-pass but the non-OTDL person; suggest escalating remedy each time they do it after the first one. We've had all the NTFT jobs removed because mgt was bound and determined to mandate non-OTDL persons.
01:21 PM ET (US)
Question - Are Full Time Flexible 40 hour NTFT clerks worked a minimum of 6 straight hours in a day. I know
you can work more. And is there only 1 hour for lunch?
04:48 PM ET (US)
Let me correct myself as I obviously was not blunt enough. You are guaranteed what your bid says that does not mean you are guaranteed 2 days off!! And yes I agree know your LMOU and the CBA. NTFT can be worked 2 hours a day if that is the bid. You are suppose to be given lunch at or before your 6th hour worked in a day and DO NOT allow them to split you more than 1 hour. Management will try and work you like the PTF and don't think your management doesn't know what they are doing. I work for an idiot also but let me tell you when it comes down to it they know how to play the game
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
04:23 PM ET (US)
FTR, even an NTFT regular, is guaranteed to work or be paid their bid for being scheduled on their nonsched day. Not 2 hours, not 4 hours: their entire bid.
Not HerePerson was signed in when posted
11:17 AM ET (US)
/m2727 Nice to work for an uninvolved boss; far too many are micro-managers. Check with steward about your H/L counting against his limit; I don't think so because it you working, not him. I'd push harder for FTR job so make sure steward knows how often you're doing H/L.

/m2726 This doesn't seem a larger office where 4 hours would be right. Seems to be a smaller one so then 2 is all that's guaranteed. And only after you show up.
09:42 AM ET (US)
Thanks guys for the information. Being in a small office you don't always have other clerks to confer with. I work for a stupid person who knows NOTHING. He doesn't even come to work before 9:00 and usually his carriers are gone by then-so NO management. The carriers come in 30 minutes before they are scheduled to and some leave before others are even finished working their mail. He also calls in at least once a week and tells me to go on higher level and comes in after lunch. That is so I will do his reports. When I am working HL - doesn't THOSE hours count against him on the 15 hour violation? The reason I even got 40 hour NTFT is because he NEVER posted a schedule for me and so I set out to work the same 8 hour days for more than 6 months then I filed a grievance.
SpringgPerson was signed in when posted
04:57 PM ET (US)
/m2722 Yes he is GUARENTEED day(s) off and set hours of work!!! He is not a PSE, PTF, or old school casual. And calling him in on his day off, HA! He's holds a bid assignment just like any other FTR and 2 hours min is WRONG.

/m2271 Management does hold the right to move his hours around the Wednesday PRIOR to the next work week, otherwise all hours become Out of Schedule and an additional 50% is paid for every hour outside his bid job hours. Article 8.3 Full-time
regular employees in Non-Traditional Full-Time (NTFT) duty assignments have
daily and weekly guarantees based on the bid schedule as posted.

The lunch split is correct.

NTFT can work 6 days a week with a single day off. If your work Overtime it's a No No, as that would show cause for a FTR position and your Postmaster will not want that. And X-stew is completely right, get to know those Collective Bargaining pages and MOUs.

Congrads on making regular and the rights that come with it.
Edited 04-22-2016 04:57 PM
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
01:48 PM ET (US)
/m2724 Seems what you've outlined---2 10s, 2 6s, and an 8, will happen because it makes your steward happy.

But I'd talk to him about not being a FTR when there's 40 hours coming. In exchange for losing 5 hours a week, going to flexible NTFT is no bargain, and seems to violate the spirit of #19 on page 314: "Every effort will be made to create desirable duty assignments from all available work hours for career employees to bid." FTR is a lot more desirable than any flexible NTFT after all.

If you do end up with NTFT job, get to know #14 on page 313. Read pages 315-6 on OT at least once too.
10:05 AM ET (US)
My union steward requested that I be made a full time regular clerk. The HR suggested a NTFT flexible
clerk. The steward said ok as long as I am 40 hours. I am hoping that means 2 days off during the
seven day work week. So as a 40 hour fulltime NTFT I believe the contract said 2 days off. I think
I may be working 2 - 10 hours days, 1 8 hour day, and 2 6 hour days to make my forty with a day off
and Sunday off. I have requested it to be this way since she was going to make me full time regular
in the beginning. I had been working 45 hours a week-8 each day and 5 on Saturday - same hours everyday for nearly a year.
Edited 04-22-2016 10:06 AM
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