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| Erik Wrenholt
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07-24-2003 09:48 PM ET (US)
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I'm puzzled by the lack of comments (and community) found here on QuickTopic on an article like that. The web here seems like a huge failure here in fostering community and discussion. It's slow, expensive, and flat. Why didn't this article hit critical mass and attract dozens of comments? So this is social software?
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07-26-2003 03:53 AM ET (US)
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| Blogal Villager
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08-06-2003 11:07 AM ET (US)
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Tools, like TrackBack, for aggregating comments, don't work very well; with ingenuity, one can subscribe to an RSS feed of comments on a particular post at Popdex and include it with you own post, but there's no out of the box way to do it (I have used RSSMonkey), and it's awkward and time consuming. You can search Blogdex and Feedster to find out what others are saying about a given topic. But even so, the fact is that there simply isn't much of a will to collaborate. Look at how underused the Internet Topic Exchange is (partly because it relies on Trackback, I'm sure). The "pushbutton personal publishing" paradigm seems to mean that every blogger in the world wants their comments to monopolize attention ("attention" being the currency of the Blogshares mock-market), just as Rolling Stone wants to steal market share back from Vibe. When I read elaborate discussions of the sociology of online group dynamics, I can't help thinking that the folks discussing it are talking about themselves, like a session of group therapy. The best studies of this sort of thing use good old Usenet for their data. The blogosphere? There's nothing happening there except talk about what might happen. And there are more words dedicated to the theory of the wiki than there are words in all of wikidom at this point. It's the same kind of thing you see in organizations trying to implement knowledge management: People still want to own and profit from their own ideas and information. Knowledge is power only if you hoard it and get the best possible price for it. And if you're working for a big consultancy, why should you blog your best ideas and let somebody else take credit for them? You save them for the big meeting, where you present them as a product launch. I think this is an even more significant barrier to collaboration than the reasons cited by Dave (though he makes some excellent points). We all think of ourselves as entrepreneurs of a unique commodity: ourselves and our ideas, which we prize beyond measure without ever exposing them to the light of public discussion. |
| Luigi
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08-07-2003 02:11 AM ET (US)
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| David Weinberger
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08-07-2003 10:43 AM ET (US)
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I think Blogal's comparison, in /m4, to Rolling Stone vs. Vibe is misleading. Rolling Stone doesn't spend a lot of its space in linking to Vibe, but bloggers generally constantly link to the people they're "competing" with. And Blogal's experience of people hoarding knowledge and ideas rings false to my own experience in companies not ruled by fear. And, Luigi, could you say more by what you mean by "ropeless" in /m5? I assume it's a mountaineering reference, but I am a totally indoors type of guy. |
| Blogal (C. Brayton)
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08-07-2003 12:40 PM ET (US)
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Point well taken, although I would say, judging crudely from Blogdex and more blogreading than is good for me, that a lot more bloggers are linking to primary sources (CNN, NY Times) than to one another (the article on the Spanish blogosphere at BlogTalk showed a similar pattern). The way to win at Blogshares, for example, is not to link to the other little guy who shares your quirky views, but to "So Many Men So Little Time" and other blogs with high link-in "value." Perhaps the better analogy is that Stone wants the nude photos of Prince in the scramble for "attention capital" the links-in measured as newsstand sales. The voice of "discouraged content" everywhere is saying, "why doesn't anybody comment on my blog?" One reason is that the tools we have for connecting blogger to blogger are run like Nielsen ratings (raw link-in popularity), not like Friendster (with the exception of BlogMatcher, which is a step in the right direction). The other is that the marketing message to the new-hires is still the same old thing: "Pushbutton. Personal. Publishing." But that's interesting about companies "not rule by fear." They're not likely to be Fortune 500s, though. Maybe it's a matter of scale. Small knots of bloggers do find one another. How to find them so as to join in? Small companies with functional hierarchies and a face-to-face scale of working relationships can make good use of KM. Open source projects, which are by definition dedicated to the commons, are the most successful of all at this, I think. It's your basic Gemeineschaft-Geselleschaft conundrum. Large organizations are, from the case studies and I've read and industry people I've talked to, still ruled by functional cliques, functional silos, need-to-know, politics of information flow, managerial fiefdoms, and (I have this straight from the horse's mouth from a Big 5 consulting divisional VP) the suspicion among users that outgoing communication channels like blogs, KM, and e-learning will be used to ramp up surveillance of their performance in preparation for the next round of "reengineering" blibly marketed as a "cultural change management initiative." Which is true. It is. Fear? With the demise of collective bargaining in the Age of Reagan, the implicit covenant of employer and employer is based on nothing but. Read CyberMarx. But thanks for getting back to the topic! It's not so much what the multitude of bloggers do I'm talking about as the metaphors the blogerati are using to promote the phenom. I think y'all (the conference attendees and mainstream press interviewees) take this marketplace of ideas metaphor way too literally, for example. |
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08-08-2003 01:44 AM ET (US)
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| MICHELLE
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07-12-2004 01:07 PM ET (US)
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CAN I BE YOUR FRIEND?
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01-31-2007 04:28 PM ET (US)
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| gianmariella
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09-16-2007 10:23 PM ET (US)
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| vatan
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03-04-2008 03:46 AM ET (US)
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| ttgrytr
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05-16-2008 01:58 AM ET (US)
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| wet and young
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05-23-2008 04:18 PM ET (US)
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It's a pleasant surprise to find a sanctury from all that modern inane garbage they call music.
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