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11-02-2006 13:22 (GMT)
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Patrick  30
22-11-2003 23:43 (GMT)
Edited by author 22-11-2003 23:51
Dear Working Group,

Well, not much activity on our Bulletin Board! But friends into Newsgroups tell me it takes a year for a Newsgroup to get rolling since most people prefer one to one e-mail communication rather than Virtual Bulletin Boards. Anyway, here are a few notes I'd like to put up.


1. As you know, the next SIETAR-EU Conference will be in Berlin (Humboldt University) from 30 March to 4 April 2004. There will be a special track on Language: "The Role of Language and Linguistic Paradigms in Transition". Rethinking how we teach language obliges us to rethink language, so the presentations should be of interest.


2. I've been asked to chair the Language Track. Anette, for the Organizing Committee, has told me that they will soon be looking for people to be Commentators. A Commentator is the person who, after a talk, gives a comment on it, before opening up the discussion for questions from the general public. So even if there are no questions, the speaker will at least have had some feedback. You get to see the paper in advance, to prepare your remarks.

Any of you interested in being a commentator?


3. Two people sent me private emails with comments on the paper I was writing this autumn. I would like to thank them here. As you know, the paper was on how to get language learners to "rewrite themselves" as members of another culture (the target culture). It's done now. Three practical activities are described; they may be of interest to you if you want to give the paper a glance:
http://host.uniroma3.it/docenti/boylan/text/boylan21.htm

(If clicking doesn't work, just copy the Internet address into your browser).

4. A question:

I do task-based teaching in my "English for Intercultural Communication" courses at the University: in fact, the "practical activities" in the paper just mentioned are three such tasks. My colleagues prefer giving their students language-based exercises (study of lexis and word formation, role plays to drill specific items of syntax or phraseology, etc.). These colleagues ask me: "But do your students really improve their hold on language, by doing your intercultural communication tasks?" My experience says Yes, but to test my conviction I am giving the students a computerized test in the lab at the beginning and at the end of the semester. So we shall see.

The problem is, the only computerized test I could get for free is "L-Test", an imitation of the TOEFL or TOEIC test: 50 listening comprehension questions with multiple choice answers (you hear a 4 line dialog, then choose a sentence that represents the most logical continuation) and 50 reading comprehension questions of the same kind (you read a short text and choose the sentence that most coherently continues it). Every time you take the test (up to 10 times) the questions change.

And that's it. No speaking. No interaction. Little pragmatic awareness required. No knowledge of register or varieties of English required, Emphasis on lexical items, in particular idiomatic expressions, in the listening part. Idioms, verb concordances and noun/verb agreement count for half the discriminating features in the written part.

Do you know of any better computerized test? One that sees language as more than just lexis and grammar and that evaluates a richer range of linguistic abilities? Not necessarily free, but computerized since I don't want to have correct 240 papers (three classes of about 80 students each).

That's it for now.

Patrick
Patrick  29
15-09-2003 21:14 (GMT)
A message from Sabine:

>Dear Patrick....
you wrote: "i'm trying to be an intellectual this
>month and write a paper"!!!!???
>what are you writing about? I am curious...
>maybe one of us can help in the think tank? or mutual help
section?
>best regards from Munich Sabine

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Chow Sabine, and chow to anyone else tuned in!

Instead of the Mutual Help page, I'm writing on the chatboad (Info Exchange) where everyone can read what I put. But if you, Sabine, or anyone else feels they want privacy (with only members of the group listening in), then I'll send around the password and we can move over to the Mutual Help page which is password protected.

The conference I am writing my paper for is the IALIC event in Lancaster in December. The theme is the use of intercultural narratives. This can mean anything from Post-Colonial literature to students' Year-Abroad diaries.

It can also mean teaching languages and cultures through literature. Margaret Parry, the IALIC founder, once put it this way: through literature the intercultural student or trainee gets "drawn into the world that the native sees". I would answer: Yes, for advanced learners that's true. But not for beginners and not for most intermediate learners."


But instead of arguing the point at the conference, I have decided to . "Think positively!" and simply present an alternative.

What I plan to talk about is what I have my students do (and what I get business trainees to do in a watered-down version). That is, I get THEM to be the authors. Thus, while the texts they produce may not be great literature, at least they know what the texts (or rather the authors are really trying to say. This does not always happen when they read Great Literature in the original.

In order not to fill this ChatBoard with all my thoughts for my paper, here is a link you can click on to see my first draft, a sort of brainstorming:
                  http://boylan.it/paper

Comments, criticisms, suggestions welcome!

Patrick
 
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25-08-2003 22:17 (GMT)
Dear Patrick

Thank you for your hard work on this web site. You have gone above and beyond the call of duty. I hope we can reach the critical mass necessary for this to take off and have a life of its own.

Best

Joseph

_________________________ REPLY _________________________

Thanx, Joseph

Can everyone else in our Project Group, once back from vacation and into a working frame of mind, send a "hello" message?

After which maybe we can get a discussion going...

Patrick
Roberto Ruffino  25
22-07-2003 13:03 (GMT)
Caro Patrick:

Ho visto la relazione molto positiva su Budapest ed i tuoi commenti
entusiastici. Io sono interessato al tuo gruppo (numero 8) e, se organizzi
qualche cosa, tienimi al corrente. Buona estate.

Roberto
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22-07-2003 01:51 (GMT)
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Sabine  23
21-07-2003 16:30 (GMT)
Hi Patrick and all!!
congratulation to the start of the new homepage! big effort! looks good! keep going!
I will think about my ideas of input!
how about a relocation/facts and figures presentation about Munich? does
this find any interest? one could use it in language trainings.....
keep in touch
Sabine
 
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14-07-2003 17:51 (GMT)
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To: Members of the SIETAR-Europa Project Group: "Language as culture"


Hi, hallo, salut, ciao...

This ChatBoard is a space for us to post and discuss ideas – it's a combination of a Chat Room and a Bulletin Board (thus the name ChatBoard) and it is an e-mailing service as well. Let me explain it to you, starting with the last point.

The ChatBoard is an e-mailing service in that messages posted there will be automatically e-mailed to every member of our Project Group. But first, every one of you must click on the "SUBSCRIBE" button above. I can't enter your e-mail address for you: YOU have to subscribe (this is an anti-spam precaution). So please do click the "SUBSCRIBE" button NOW (the service is free of charge).

Don't bother clicking the "SIGN IN" button or any of the other buttons at the top. The only person who must register and sign in is me, as the administrator of this ChatBoard. Your job as a contributor is simple: just click on the "POST A MESSAGE" button above and leave whatever comments you wish. And that's all. No signing in, no signing out, no passwords, no Topic selection, no hassle whatsoever.

Another way of posting a message is to REPLY to one of the e-mails you receive containing the latest messages on the ChatBoard. When you click the REPLY button on your e-mail program, your REPLY message will be sent to all members of our Project Group and, in addition, it will be posted on the ChatBoard – just as if you had written it directly there.

Since the messages you post and receive remain on the ChatBoard in chronological order (the older messages at the bottom), the Board will constitute a permanent record of our discussions -- our history. And since we have the ChatBoard as our collective Archive, when we receive ChatBoard e-mails we can read them and delete them immediately – there is no need to clutter our computers with them.

As I mentioned at the beginning, we can also use the Board as a chat room: all we have to do is to choose a date for everyone to be on line at the same time.

So now we have a discussion space, easily accessible for everyone.

What shall we begin discussing?

The first task I propose for our "holiday meditations" is deciding how to fill out the SIETAR-Europa Board "PROGRESS REPORT" which you'll find on our Group homepage:
http://www.sietar.de/Congress2003/project8/ (click PROGRESS REPORT)

The Board's idea (actually Jeff's) is to get us to establish goals and deadlines so that we actually accomplish something. That way of proceeding may, of course, seem like an (Anglo-American) cultural imposition. But it probably fits with the upbringing most of us have had, so unless any of you have reserves or objections (in which case please speak up!), I propose doing as asked.

We've already agreed on the general goal:

    Developing the concept of "learning languages as culture"
       as a new FLT (Foreign Language Teaching) paradigm
     and creating materials to put our ideas into practice.

Now we'll have to start thinking in the more specific terms suggested by the Progress Report:

- expected benefits

- SE Board support required

- short term Action Items (next 3 months)

- long term Action Items (next 3 years) [Wow!Thinking big! -- p.]


Anyone have any suggestions on what to write?

Happy summer!


Patrick

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Homepage: http://www.sietar.de/Congress2003/project8/
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