This is a place to discuss upcoming events, technology/whatever and, perhaps, even organise ourselves to get together for the occasional gravity drag on our favorite local hills.

This weekend has the Red Bull Trolley Grand Prix on TV2 on Saturday from 5.00 - 5.30 pm and a derby at Te Aroha on Sunday.

Hi folks,

I have just found this bulletin board service and I am just wondering if I should be using something like this rather than (or in conjunction with) the current newsgroup emails.

What do you think?

http://nztrolleyderby.web1000.com/

Yes this is a great idea.
I would like to see more get togethers to run our trolleys.
I have a lot of information on building safe cheap trollies and also have adesign for very cheap disk breaks.
 I look forward to more discussions.
See you all at Te Aroha this weekend.

Kind regards
Jim

Hi Folks,
I am going to do my best to make it to the Te Aroha derby but I think I will only have my camera with me. The kids that race my trolleys are in Oz on holiday and I have been (and will be) too busy to build a new front wheel for Mooloo (Team Udder Madness) to replace the one I smashed at the Red Bull. I am supposed to have a spare, but it was stolen, along with my tools, car, trailer, and props for our Grand Entrance for the Red Bull.

We may get the car back as my wife discovered that it got new plates and a new warrant 5 days after it was stolen. I wouldn't have thought that it was possible to do that to someone else's car, but there is no link between the Plods computer and the LTSA computer. I doubt that we will get Mooloo's spare wheel back with it though, which is a real nuisance as it runs a rear bike hub machined to fit a 12 mm stub axle and is offset spoked, which is quite tricky to do.

I am really looking forward to the TV2 Red Bull program on Saturday. I just hope I can organise myself so that I am not on the on the road somewhere between Raglan and Katikati at the time.

Regards
Chris

Edited by author 11-04-2003 07:00 PM
Hi to you all,
Well I have built a new front axel for the 'Band Aid' car and will have a new steering wheel and cable drum set up before Sunday. Chris, is there anything I can do for you? Can I get a wheel from Shepards World of Wheels, and I have a machine shop here at home, please let me know, ok.
The kids are looking forward to another run, and my long range weather has it looking very nice.
Hope to catch up with you all Sunday.

Best regards

Jim

Edited by author 13-04-2003 11:51 PM
I ended up watching the Red Bull in Raglan (awesome show) and calling in at Te Aroha on the way home to Katikati on Sunday. A great turnout and great weather to go with it. Have put some photos on the website.

How did you get on Captain?

My biggest problem at the moment is getting my hands on suitable tyres. The ones I am after are 16*2 with a radial tread pattern.

The current craze is for knobblies and I am not keen on using them, I don't race my trollies in mud. http://www.nztrolleyderby.web1000.com/tyres.html

I am also after good 16*2 rims, preferably 28 spoke. They seem to be impossible to buy new.

I should be able to turn out a hub myself, but thanks for the offer. It is a bit tricky as the bearing surfaces are case hardened.

Do you have a phone number for Shepards?

Graham,

Many thanks for photos. It was a great day out, and our daughter, Meisha won her age group event, the 10-11 year olds.
I felt that the event was run very very well, however I do have one criticism, and this relates to the drivers of the trolley return trailers. One of the guys was in too much of a hurry and turning his rig at the bottom of the run with a load of trolleys on board and our trolley was thrown off the trailer and on to the road with some force, bent three spindles and in generally knocked a lot of paint off.

Not all the trolleys are made from re-cycled go-karts, pushbikes or bits of angle iron welded together. Even so, the bending of steering rods, or twisting of the forks for the wheels, does have an effect on how the trolley runs.
If I have to, I will be responsible for the return of our trolley back to the pits, but all it takes is a bit of care and attention.

I am open to any views on this.

Once again, it was a great run and I hope there are more being planed.
The phone number for Sheppards World of Wheels is
 09 915 5905.
Fax. 09 915 5903
E-mail: castors@sheppardind.co.nz
The contact there is Andrew Collins.

With kind regards,


Jim O'Donnell

I found out a long time ago that trolleys get damaged at derbies. It seems to be unavoidable.

My policy is to stick close to a fragile trolley and supervise the handling at all times or...

...build them rugged and don't bother doing a fantastic paint job.

I used to get upset about damage, but I don't let it worry me any more. I have fun at the derbies and have fun fixing them up and reconfiguring them for the next derby.

When a trolley wouldn't fit on a truck at the Red Bull I told them to put it on top of mine. The helper couldn't keep his eyes off it as it slowly sank down on mine,
crushing the bodywork that had taken several weeks to make.

I enjoy building trolleys, but only once, then improving it bit by bit. I dont think our trolly is fragile; not too many would have survived without some sort of damage given the same treatment as ours was given. But, your advise is good and we will take care of our own return to the start in future, if we feel it will make sure there will be no damage done.
I will be removing the axels this week and trueing them up again. When is the next run and where? lets get out there again.

Sometimes I think organisers should bestow a Dick of the Day award on the bozo that does the most damage to other peoples trolleys.

Looking at History on the website, I don't see that much is likely to happen for a while.

Would it be possible to organize a "Frostie Derby" it sure is cold enough.
Willing and waiting.

Edited by author 26-09-2004 07:13 PM
Helensville Trolley Derby

Rules
7.Drivers must be seated, facing forward (no lying down)

What does that mean?

There are many trolleys around in which the driver is prone, with his bum pointing at the ground, and the 'seat' is nothing more than a headrest, some with not even that.

Is that what they are trying to ban?

the boys are keen to be at the next derby Te Aroha i think
we also have suffered dammage mostly bent axle spindles
I have had to work on each kiwi cart we fliped at Howick
and i had to remake both axels new.i agree the most dammage is the transport crew some are rough. Hamilton had no derby last year. we want to do Tauranga when?
Cheers Graham

I haven't heard any rumours of upcomming events lately. As soon as I do I will update the website.

How can I find out about the red bull trolley derby, e.g. specs, dates, etc?

Is there a website I can go to?

So far the Red Bull Trolley Grand Prix has been bi-annual.

Expect the next one in 2007.

Keep an eye on http://www.redbull.co.nz/

It is usually advertised on TV3

If you want to travel, there are some in other countries, but they sometimes, if not always, do not accept overseas entries, so you would have to get in with a resident team to compete.

Watching one in any country would be a real hoot.

England is getting tough to see though, as it is so popular you have to enter a ballot to to a ticket to watch.

Well spring is here and no down hill runs yet. I sure hope we will get the chance to test our skills aginst gravity again.
Any up-dates on events?

You can try this one http://www.nztrolleyderby.netfirms.com/future-events.html

what type of trollies are the type e.g home made or buying.
where does the red bull trolley grand prix?
im only 10 and i have my own team, would i be able to compete???

wooden or metel to compete???

please awnswer

Edited by author 01-11-2005 04:34 PM
The two previous RBTGPs have been at the Auckland Domain.

Expect the next one in 2007.

The Red Bull website will have the rules for construction when they put up their RBTGP pages.

You have to be 16 or over to compete.

My entry for the Red Bull was made of cardboard, plastic, wood, papier machet, steel etc., had rack and pinion, anti Ackermann steering, brakes on all four wheels (a requirement), was arguably one of the fastest trollies on the hill, and did not make it to the finish line.

You may have to compete with 200 or more other hopefuls to even get an entry accepted. You will not be accepted with a shop bought trolley.

It is a team event. You need 5 members and have to do a 90 second Grand Entrance to introduce your team and trolley to the crowd. You are judged on that and points go towards your final score.

You are also judged on presentation and innovation.

Im looking at emtering but cant find any specs or details of the contest anywhere. if you know of any can you email me on bbaddiley@georgestock.co.nz

Happy New Year to you all. Well 2006 is here and I tried to get down to Nelson, but work had me in Ashburton (no Hills in that town). So, does anyone have a date for the next trolley run up north here, sure would love to blow the dust off the cars and do a run down a hill.
Take care.

Edited by author 12-03-2006 03:50 PM
hey has any one still hav a copy of the specs for the 2006 or the 2007 red bull grand prix? want to get a jump on competition for 2008

Hi Guys,
I'm looking for a plan of how to build a simple trolley so that my 10 year old students at school can have a go. Does anyone have a good website or a plan that may be useful and easy to follow?

Edited by author 05-05-2006 11:11 PM
Mrs N.

please contact me direct for a very easy plan and construction for a trolley.
odgnz@orcon.net.nz. I can also offer help on construction etc.
I look forward to your contact.

Jim

Edited by author 14-05-2006 05:58 PM
Wood like to know when the next Red Bull Trolley Derby is.Is it in 2007

For all you Red Bullites, I have a virgin copy of the 2005 Reb Bull Grand Prix. Please contact me direct for a copy of the specs and general rules in PDF format.

"gravity never stops"

Jim

Hi everyone, my e-mail contact is now
odgnz@xtra.co.nz

still no events, hmm ah well

regards to all that visit

Jim O'D

Hello folks,
      We have registered trolley building competition in our company. we are going to have just 2 weeks to deisgn and build this trolley. our rules are like we should have a minimum steering control and brakes to stop in case of emergency and it has to run in gravity.It should also carry one person safely. Please give me any kind of information.. about building trolleys, like pictures, steering mechanism, coomon braking mechanism, body structure.. that could be useful for us in building it efficiently. We have a least spending limit for this.
I would really appriciate this help.

Thank you
Ram..

Ram,
Please supply your e-mail address to odgnz@xtra.co.nz, and I will send you some photos etc to help you

Jim

hi
i just pulled my old go kart out of storage. im having some issues with my steering. a view of my basic diagram can be seen here: http://www.officenerd.com/diagram.htm
what im looking for is some help, seems like the The rope that is run through a couple of pulleys and wrapped around the steering column is not catching.
if someone could help me with some diagrams or if they have used this mechanism in the past that would be great.
lou@officenerd.com

Edited by author 27-08-2006 09:26 PM
Hi Louis,

From your diagram I would suspect that the rope is just slipping on the shaft. It may have been clamped to the shaft or had enough tension to prevent it slipping.


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A Wellsford Trolley Derby is in the making and the organisers are looking for suitable photos from earlier Wellsford Derbies to use for promotions.
Can anyone help?

http://wellsfordtrolleyderby.bravehost.com/

Does anyone want a Waycool Kits (NZ) trolley for the Welsford Derby?
I have a race ready trolley for sale. Disc brakes etc.
contact me at odgnz@xtra.co.nz.
We are looking forward to the first downhill in 2 years. It should be a fun day

hi Jim do you still have the kart for sale or any plans

my email is OLC@xtra.co.nz thanks

Hanmer Springs Lions Club - Soapbox Derby

Due to bad weather the Soapbox Derby was postponed and is now to be held on:

Saturday 23 February 2008 at 1 pm on Conical Hill Road, Hanmer Springs.

For entry forms or more information see http://nztrolleyderby.netfirms.com/future-events.html