Do not be duped by Canada. Canada is a bony ass-licker of the United States of America to violate your human rights, privacy, and freedom. They are bony-assed dictatorships instead of democracies in the real sense. Be an informed consumer. Please spread information of these website to family, friends, colleagues, anyone who express any interest to move to Canada. Please circulate these websites to prevent these violations of human rights and gross cheating and manipulation.

They function through racially intolerant white canadian cops and security and their henchmen claiming to be despots; following parasitically in the footsteps of their american counterparts, and wilfully engage in their racial profiling of non-whites, in racial
harassment of non-whites, and in racially dehumanizing attempts to racially harass non-whites through intimidating physically, mentally, and spiritually; portraying their racial hatred of non-whites through causing wilfull and dehumanizing disturbance to non-whites through using illegal wall-see-through technologies and audio-bugs on non-whites' homes; through listening and watching through the walls of non-whites' rented and owned homes, through their internet and private telephones, and through using tempest technology to latch on as parasites onto others' computers' hard-drives as well amounting to illegal plagiarism and privacy violations. The perpetuators of these evil deeds do this from their cars using illegal equipment slyly given to them by the unworthy cops, and then accelerating their cars loudly and intimidatingly near non-whites' homes and driving intimidatingly in presence of non-whites on streets, making threatening u-turns, driving intimidatingly right up and over sidewalks when a non-white is on the sidewalk, and throwing their ugly bullying weight around, in their shameless acts of cowardice. It is all done slyly, supposedly smartly, either loudly or silently; however, they cannot fool all the people all the time.

The cops also participate themselves to wail their sirens abusively everytime non-whites move and talk inside their rented and owned homes in daily routine living, in addition to having their henchmen and henchwomen, and often, using their non-white gutless henchmen and henchwomen in cars, transport, shopping centers, neighborhoods, etc, to commit these ugly harassing racially profiling deeds at all times day and night. Using non-whites to engage in racial harassment of other non-whites is an obnoxiously evil sinister humanely disgraceful intelligent move of the whites well-known for their ugly divide and rule tactics through their non-white henchmen and henchwomen.

It's a shameful disgrace when the so called protectors of law turn into abusers of law themselves and throw the weight of their uniforms and law around as cowards. So, they and their henchmen and henchwomen, appear to be very law respecting on the outside; however, they network cowardly to commit sly acts of provocation to non-whites all the time, which is supposed to be legally acceptable. Is watching through walls of non-whites homes, bugging their homes, working in networking syndicates against them, committing human rights and privacy violations against them, supposedly lawful for the whites? Who makes those laws that favor only the whites? The law itself has racism in its clauses. The ugly inner dirt of the perpetuators of these evil deeds of racism do not deserve to step into religious institutions for their ugly deeds - such as, if you ain't white, you ain't right? Oh! Really? Nicely dressed, beautiful people, magnificient concrete jungles, clean roads and lawns, sweet polite talkers on the outside, full of ugly stench in their souls, that is the cause of these racist policies that are outrightly biased against non-whites. What a shame!

Most of these ugly acts of dehumanizing racial profiling depict the cowardice of the doers of these deeds in the real sense, and are done at the behind the scenes insistence of the racially intolerant white cops through their frontline stooges. However, without physical evidence, the white cops, security, societies, and their henchmen and henchwomen are laughing sinisterly at their heinous deeds and the legal system seems to support this evil through its inability to take action without physical evidence. Their racial profiling penetrates public transport systems, shops and stores to do all they can to make the non-whites feel unwelcome in their dehumanizing acts of racial profiling against non-whites and those who don't conform to their nonsense. The white cops, security, and white communities use their henchmen and henchwomen who do just as they are told and from behind the safety cushion of their oil-guzzling, pollution creating, often dark-glassed vehicles to intimidate and harass non-whites in obnoxious racial profiling that reflects the immoral, despotic, and cowardly behaviour of racially intolerant white cops, security, communities and their dumb henchmen and henchwomen who do just as they are told, fuelled as they are in their racial frenzy, thanks to the racially manipulative corporate controlled media.

Volunteers are welcome to circulate this information to all they know to put an end to this abuse and violations of human rights committed by immorally misbehaved white cops, security, white communities, public transports, shops, stores, etc, and their dumb henchmen and henchwomen who do just as they are told in their racial frenzy.

Save this information on your computers before any cowards remove it from the websites.

Racism is immoral and dehumanizing behaviour that reflects the "incapable to perform humanely" quality of those who are racist and are being watched from God's court above in ways they cannot be expected to be capable to perceive yet.

It's a shame when obnoxious stench of racism comes from people in so called rich countries. It's even more of a shame when words are twisted by media to influence young minds with lies. It's even more of a shame when so called authorities perpetuate racism and behave racistly and enforce racist policies and behaviour through intimidating means amidst outer sweet and polite talks. Racism seems to be prominent among so called white people in rich countries who cannot bear non-whites from other countries of origin. Planet Earth belongs to people of Earth. Highly educated people of high intellectual calibres, rich bosses and CEOs, etc, of rich countries are a blotch on humanity and their material levels when they haven't yet evolved to basic human concepts of all humans have red blood irrespective of race.

Racism stems from social attitudes that are perpetuated by racist societies, the media, the authoritarians, and the peers. It's time to say, shame on all those who perpetuate racism and racist attitudes.


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Here is a very thoughtful article on price and the economics of electronic distribution. Everyone, please have a look....

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,58684,00.html

DanielM. Not a very well thought-out argument from that chap.

Well, I guess there are suckers born every minute, willing to 'invest' in what amounts to a crappy back-catalog. Apple's little store is a one-off experiment full of no- or little- risk files that aren't selling on CD.

'Partial Album' and 'Clean Lyrics'....? Give me a break. And, I guess, let DanielM one-click his savings away on dreck.

Me? I'll be scoring the occasional CD and keeping the magic marker handy until somebody comes up with a better model.

Next!

Danielm. Wow poor you!!!

This forum is for freedom of speech.......right!

So i seem to have a bug up my..........

So i'm an idiot, or i'm an embarrassment....wow!
Now who tell hell are you to say something like that about a person you don't even know!!!
I guess you think your god, or frustrated about everything that other people say, and your the kind of person who as to win all the time!!!
Hey ask me if i care.....not!!!
first of all......read again.....i said : I'm not saying 10 or 15 cent a song, but 99 cent, pffffffff sorry not for me, if 20 $ for an album of YOUR FAVORITES TRACKS is a good price for you, go. 0.99 cent x 20 (the average # of tracks on a full cd) and is there any taxes????..........simple, it's too high!!!
So stick with the subject.....

If you give money to your kid, fine, good for him.
But there is others that will find it to expensive.

Yes i live in canada, and seriously your opinions, pfffffff.
Juste to talk the way you did, you have to be very narrowed mind!

But hey, there is people like you.

If your not happy with what i'm saying................cheers!!!

Et en passant vas donc voir si je suis au coin d'la rue, crisse de sans dessins!!!

Enough loosing my time for someone like this..............

Edited by author 04-30-2003 09:42 AM
In response to Beatmaster

I live in Canada too and I must say I wished you hadn't admitted that you did. You are an embarrassment. Your assumptions aren't well thought out. In fact they sound idiotic.

And you seem to have a bug up your...which no one really wants to hear about. But for the moment, let's look at your reaoning for your claim that the price is too high.

And yes, lets do it in Canadian dollars, because it makes your assumptions even more ridiculous.

You stated, "Lets say i make an album from my favorite tracks, right, all good tracks. About 20 songs on a regular cd, hmmm lets see 20 x 1.44$ plus taxes, Total 33.13$. Wow, are they out of there mind!!!"

First of all, when was the last time that you could by a CD that had 20 "all good tracks" because you are as you stated in another post, "Someone like me that need new stuff all week long"? More likely you would have to buy at least 10 albums to get that much "good" music and up here, at 15-18 dollars each you would be lucky to get that for less than $150.

"Do you think kids 12 years old and up will ask mom and dad everyday for money or credit card for songs......nope" Well I have a 14 year-old who helps proves you otherwise. He doesn't get his wish. But he does buy and as he will admit there are usually only a track or two on each CD that he really wants to listen to. He doesn't have to tell us that, we hear it. Last Saturday, he bought a new CD. It costs $18.95 and all the way home we listened thru the entire album. He has now played that CD a dozen times that I know of and he hasn't gotten past the first track. Think about it. If the iTunes Music Store were available here, I would gladly hand him a few bucks and I am sure his sense of selection would be better and greater than it was on the weekend. I know mine would be.

By the way, it's mom and dad that pays for it. Not the "students in college?" And as a parent, I relish the idea that this could be the first time that we can get what we pay for. I am tired of having to outlay $16 a pop for a full CD of 'music' to get one or two listenable tracks. Didn't I just save myself $14 at least?

I can appreciate and accept the fact that this new concept is not for everyone. Even today, for example, there are those whose beliefs won't accept modern conveniences, even 'electricity', but they don't complain and we don't impose it on them. If you had established that this new service was functionally and technically flawed, I believe that you have the right to report it. But to delcare a pile of untested assumptions without obviously trying it (remember you are in Canada, so the service is unavailable to you (so you can't, that is without a US mailing address) and unfortunately to me as well) isn't something that I really want to see (unfortunately, I have to read it before I can trash it).

And by the way, your statement, "Yes i hope the artists will get a part of that money?" dictates that you haven't even read the full press releases or info packages.

So is 99 cents too high? For some yes. But for many, so is a Lexus, but we don't slam the car manufacturer for building it.

So is 20 cents still too high? For some yes. But for many, so is a Kia, but we don't slam the car manufacturer for building it.

But keep in mind that there are still ways for you to listen to 'your' good music without having to pay a cent for and it is legal. It's the radio. But hey, you are the type who would want the station to pay you for having to put up with the commercials.

And for those who will continue to pirate using the likes of kaaza and limewire, just remember, that if it wasn't for the likes of us who will more than gladly pay for good value, there would be nothing to steal.

So good luck to those who do. I just hope that there will always be something that somebody else would want to steal.

Yes i hope the artists will get a part of that money, i've been in music for 17 years now, i can say i made my part!
But......as for the new service, hmmmmm, i don't know.
Peoples are saying ''it's only a buck a song, that's nothing'' well, it's to high.
Do you think kids 12 years old and up will ask mom and dad everyday for money or credit card for songs......nope!
Students in college.......nope!
Someone like me that need new stuff all week long.........nope!
Even if it's a compilation of the best of the best......it's to high!

And please stop the kaaza & limewire is too slow or gnagnagna, quality thing. Don't tell me by the time your doing your whatever your doing in the house you don't have time to d/l a few songs, slow or not, apple are saying all this to make you buy from the service, ACC is 128, P2P is 160 and 192 and more.
And don't give me that virus thing...please!
The only way i'll buy from the service is, drop the price!
I'm not saying 10 or 15 cent a song, but 99 cent, pffffffff sorry not for me, if 20 $ for an album of your favorites tracks is a good price for you, go. 0.99 cent x 20 (the average # of tracks on a full cd) and is there any taxes????..........simple, it's too high!!!
And for now the library from the music store is not that great, most of the albums are old, they have a few new albums to attract peoples, and as for singles........you know remix club style ( dance , techno, rave ), a joke, where do i find them........P2P.
Plus the service is not available outside US, that piss me off. I guess the reason for that is that for now it's a test, wil see in the future.
About itune 4, WOW, as always, it's great.

First of all I have no love for the music industry, most are bloodsucking leeches exploiting the talent and hard work of artists. That is the system that needs changing.

Having said that, Apple nailed this one. The system is easy to use, the selection is better then I thought it would be and it is almost too easy to use. I bought five songs right away. 99 cents is a good point to start with, and there will probaly be promotions, etc.

this is like having a music store in my office. The sound quality is very acceptable and with support for ACC I can squeeze more songs on my 20 gig ipod which is already full of songs I ripped from my own cd's.

 I can affortd a buck for a great song. One of the analysts that said 15 cents is the proper price point is probaly not a music fan. Jeez, people... kick down a buck or two, I will probaly budget about $20 a month for songs and I will still buy CD's. Limewire, Kaaza, is lame... lousy quality, slow downloads, potential viruses. (as a computer consultant I have made a few thousand dollars this year cleaning up end-user windows systems infected by Kazaa downloads, so I probaly should not complain). You end up paying with your time and so on.
Hopefully some of the money will get to the artists and services like this should stipulate that.
As far as the restrictions go, damn... how many copies do I need? usually just one or two... I can make a cd for the car and sync one to my ipod. I have a hard time thinking of a reason to make 10 copies of the same exact playlist.
I welcome any challenges to my opinions. Open debate is the best way to come up with a solution that balances art and commerce.

Edited by author 04-29-2003 03:15 AM
Hmm, so let's see. How many of you -like- the US DMCA? How many of you -like- region coding in DVDs? How many of you will actually use this service (after reading the fine print and going thru all the motions of buying an AC3 file that 'authorizes itself' to your machine? All sarcasm (and lip service) aside, there has to be a reason that other music services are floundering, and that this Apple one will too, after the SteveO reality distortion field wears off.

Apple's trying the Nintendo trick of striking the price high and then hoping the novelty will kickstart sales. I guess there are enough suckers out there who will validate their 'business model'. So where is Nintendo now?

99 cent might be a fair price for an unrestricted private use file, but this one will lock itself to your PC (and 2 others as I remember). So, something will have to give. Either the restrictions, or the price.

I'm sure all the DJs out there are going to appreciate the portability factor of these downloaded files. <smirk>

DMCA + RIAA + Apple = Your Mac (AntiFairUseApparatus) + aButtLoadOfNonPortableFiles

Edited by author 04-29-2003 03:03 AM
i agree with what is being posted here about the record labels. They are evil money grubbing and themselves morally corrupt and unethical. However, regardless of which way you look at it, downloading music that is not paid for is theft, even if half the source is as described above. If you steal the music, the artist gets even less than if you paid for it and they got their one dollar of that twenty the CD costs. And, as things appear, it is only going to become more difficult to obtain free music on the web as time moves forward.

i have tried the Apple music site and found it to be quite nicely integrated into iTunes 4. i think it is going to be a smashing success for several reasons.

1.) It is incredibly easy to use, simply pick the song you want, click buy... it's yours.

2.) The selection will undoubtedly grow to exceed the already rather diverse selection they have and people will most likely use it as a companion to their theft of music rather than a single source for music, generally to find titles that cannot be found elsewhere. This will be good because it will provide an option to theft that is rather straightforward and useful at the same time. i was able to obtain two songs, one by Fleetwood Mac and another by David Gray that were exclusive to the Apple site.

3.) The tunes are encoded nicely. Although the files are 128, i really can't tell and they truly sound as if they have been encoded at 160-190 quality. i purchased an entire CD of the "Hair" soundtrack, that btw, consisted of 27 tunes, for $10.59 (tax included)--yes, i could have gone out and bought it, but not at 1:30 a.m.!

4.) The technology to crack any limitations on the tunes will probably creep up soon. Although i observed that iTunes itself will not allow me to convert the tunes to any other format than Apple's new AAC, i can still burn the songs to CD--or, if i want to edit the song itself, i can import it into Peak and either re-encode the file into Mp3 format, or Aiff and do what i want with it.

5.) This provides an option to buying the complete CD of an artist that one likes, but does not like all that much. i hated having to pay for a full CD when all i wanted was one song off an album. Additionally, you can test the song out before buying it, all from the ease of your home.

Many other sites have attempted to do what Apple has done with its usual style, ease, and grace only to come off ripping off the user while befuddling them. All of this ease is built right into the mp3 player that is the easiest to use of any i have ever seen. Apple has provided another option in our media driven world, a viable one, and although it places some limits on the music, does not place excessive limitations on the content and come off treating us like the criminals we all are at heart. Kudos to them!

Well let's see, i live in canada, no service yet. seriously i hope there will be none, why....here a regular cd on sale is about 14$ plus taxes.

0.99 cent US, for one song, canadian that will be around 1.44$ and don't forget taxes, even in the us.
Lets say i make an album from my favorite tracks, right, all good tracks.
About 20 songs on a regular cd, hmmm lets see 20 x 1.44$ plus taxes,
Total 33.13$
Wow, are they out of there mind!!!
Thats only for canada, imagine somewhere else!!!
This is why it will not survive, and why peoples will continue to get it for free on the net.
It's gotta be lower than 50 cent or it's already dead!

Sounds fair to me because I don't have to buy the 50% or more filler.

Edited by author 04-28-2003 11:12 PM
Yes Andy You've Got It!!!

If the average worker in the plant only gets a small share of the buying price, then we SHOULD start breaking the laws, because they are unfair. The capitalist system is set up to protect the rich and take advantage of the workers (The only ones who really produce real goods).

At some point, let's say a salary of over $1,000,000/year it's hard to call it much, other than greedy store owners.

I have a better suggestion for Apple. Set the price of music on a sliding scale, i.e., proportional to your income. Then the majority of us would be paying less than 10¢/song.

$.99 is fair for a selection. I think entire albums will not do as well for the "popular" genres as others. Unfortunately, the pop labels tend to manufacture groups that have a quick sell for one or two tunes, but don't have the maturity or skill to fill an album.

There are some other genres, jazz, for example, where fans are more attracted to the skill of the artist, rather than desiring a particular track. Obviously, there will be more pop albums sold, but I wouldn't be surprised if albums were a higher percentage in jazz and other genres.

Let's see... I think cars are overpriced. The average worker in the plant only gets a small share of the buying price. Therefore, it is obviously ok and completely justified that I go out and just steal the car.

Oh, I also think steaks are ok, and to the best of my knowledge, the steer wasn't paid at all. I better go to the store and steal several steaks! That'll show those greedy store owners!

Edited by author 04-28-2003 09:23 PM
It's all about greed, boys and girls. No printing costs, fixed costs for servers (and bandwidth), coupled with even more restrictive licensing on the files that you will download. Lemme see: Buy CD and rip anywhere/play anywhere/where when and how I want. Or, cop one of these SteveO AC3 files that I can only put on a limited number of machines. Oh, and my iPod becomes an escrowBox. Nah. I'll stick with mp3s and doing 'CD Sneaker 'Net' with friends. Thanks for nothing, Steve. All this is is proof positive that the Record Industry is running scared and they think that that old geekTechie snake oil'l that Steve sold'em on will save them. The magic's gone, and it won't. It might bump up Apple stock enough for SteveO to release a few more shares, tho'.

Edited by author 04-28-2003 07:34 PM
Artists like Prince have been doing this for years.
Mark: $20 for a CD, you must be shopping at Sam Goody. Go to Best Buy or Circuit City. I bought the new Robbie Williams and The Ravonettes new CDs for $11.99 total for both (~$6 per cd). Folks that is cheap. $0.99 is going to get some customers, so that makes me happy as a stock holder. I doubt that I will go for it, but who knows. I may want an older song or something. Again, if this makes Apple money then I am happy. :)

Edited by author 04-28-2003 06:20 PM
Ludd, you hit the nail on the head. Why do we need the record companies? How much of the 99¢ goes to the artist? That is the real question here.

Also, I'd like to hear what audiophiles have to say about the quality of the recording we are getting for 99¢.

This service is just another stage in the evolution of the major labels into parasitical entities who do little but reap the profits from musicians labor. Of course this mode of distribution makes it easier for the labels to reissue back catalogs. They'll have no production costs, no marketing costs, and thanks to accounting procedures that make Enron look honest, they wont have to pay the artists either.

The music cartel may be justified to accuse people of stealing music, but these same companies steal money from musicians through routine fraud. Until the major labels start using honest book keeping and paying musicians a fair share, I wont buy their products at any price. My money is better spent on live performances where the musicians will actually get paid.

Us non-US Apple users all hoped that the print ordering through iPhoto would become international soon when we were promised that it would 18 months ago. It hasn't. I've pretty much given up on Apple as far as any concern for international customers is concerned.

Regarding the comments about this new service being US-only at its inception, yes, Apple needs to get on the ball and line up agreements with the international music companies to do the same service outside the US. I would be willing to bet that in its initial stages Apple could only negotiate an agreement for music sales in the US. Hopefully it will be coming to the rest of the world ASAP...

USD 9.90 for a "CD" is an excellent price, actually you get the convenience to browse and listen online and a good price. However not for international customers.

The Internet is global - Apple's service is not ... poor job(s)

Its enough of a break because ALL the songs you get on the CD are ones you picked.

I haven't bought a CD in years because they are almost $20.00 and your lucky if you get 2 good songs in addition to the one song you wanted.

Has anyone actually been able to use it yet? I have managed to log in and try to browse but it keeps timing out. Either it is getting much more attention than Apple thought it would or they didn't do their capacity planning very well. I'm anxious to see what the jazz library has in it.

Edited by author 04-28-2003 03:48 PM
One additional thing that occurred to me is that the variety that the Music Store is capable of hosting, is infinite. I like that from a consumer's point of view, because I listen to nearly every genre out there.

I also like that from a citizen's point of view, because for those who do not live in big cities, people who only have a mall record store or a Wal-Mart for their music choices, will be able to acquire music that may not be stocked, or in some cases, not welcomed because of content or political viewpoint (pulling the Dixie Chicks, for example). Did CDNow and others offer this? Absolutely, but not in this format.

This also opens the way for back catalogs to be re-released. Just as there are plenty of DVDs now being offered that were never on VHS, it would be so much easier for companies to offer out of print music only online, where it doesn't require a huge marketing budget or a big production run. Here's hoping at least.

How does the quality of these files compare to a CD? There's a big difference between an MP3 encoded at 128 kbps and a CD -- is this file format really that much better than MP3?

I think the price is a little high, but I could live with it as long as the audio quality is really CD equivalent.

I would love to try it out right now but the server seems to be completely buried! I sure hope that settles down soon. I have a large list of artists whose old albums only have 4 or 5 cuts on them so I'll be in a buying mood, once I can get on.

I haven't had a chance to check it out first-hand, since I'm at work on a PC, but it does seem reasonable. That is, if it works as I understand it: 99 cents per song no matter the length and 9.99 per album no matter the number of songs. Consider Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" which has 5 songs on it, buy each song for 99 cents and you have the whole album for $5. So, it seems if you only plunk down $9.99 for albums with more than 10 songs, it could work out quite nicely.

Not to mention you only have to purchase the songs you want. I've purchased more than my share of albums through the years that only had a few songs I liked.

I'll have a better idea once I get home and try it, but I like what I see so far.

I think the price is close to right. Although I would like to see more variability in song pricing, I think $9.90 for an album (is that what we call these things?) is reasonable.

If I order a CD online, somwhere between $12.99 and $16.99, I pay for shipping and do without the music until my delivery arrives. Going to the store involves driving, parking, etc., and still results in a cost of $12.99 to $18.99. Granted, I love to browse through records shops, but even independents won't let me listen to every album I pick up, charge me an ever increasing price, and still require me to rip it through iTunes.

In this system, I find what I want, download it immediately via broadband, and the entire album is integrated into iTunes. From inspiration to fulfillment in under five minutes. Love it.

I listen to music almost exclusively through my iPod. I have a cassette adapter for the car, an auxiliary cable for my stereo, and headphones for those times when I'm neither at home or in the car. Despite having well over 700 CDs, I really have no use for them except as physical archives of my music collection.

Given the way that I use music, I think $10 is fairly reasonable.

Saying it is $9.90 for an album is misleading. Most of my albums I only really like 3-4 songs, some 1-2 and the rare few, 8-10 songs. There are aslo many past albums that I did not purchase at all because they only had 1-2 songs I liked. Now, I can go back and get those songs without the added baggage of 8-12 songs I don't like.

For the most part, this pricing is saving me close to $12, and at the minimum, about $5.

So I think this is a great deal and an incredible price break.

But if you are a person that just has to have the whole album, maybe it is not such a deal.

Go look at some old albums like Dark Side of the Moon - they still want $15-18 for it...

Yup, another US company that could do with an atlas. To think that Europe worked out that there was a whole world out there back in about 1400 AD...

Jamie, unfortunately, this new iTunes Music Store is only available to US customers right now...

CDs are about $15 CDN here in Vancouver, so $10 US is actually more in most cases. I wonder if Apple will bring out regional pricing? As of now I cannot buy music even in US dollars from iTunes4 (i get this message).