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Tim S.Person was signed in when posted  264
07-27-2009 04:46 PM ET (US)
Clayton,
Can you tell if it was recorded in a mastering facility or recording studio? If it is an original master recording, it may have some value to collectors. Also, if the mix is different than the official release, if it is a test recording of an early mix or something, then it would certainly be more valuable.

It could also be a bootleg cut on a home unit.... but if that is the case you should be able to tell, as it would probably not be as high quality as a studio-cut recording. Are you able to play it, and if so, how does it sound?
clayton bearden  265
07-28-2009 09:34 PM ET (US)
Tim S.

Hi, Tim , i haven't played it for sometime. It last sounded faint even though amplified. "tinney" It is Audio disc and has metal so may be a "master' I came by it around 1969! I can send a picture of it, if that will help.

Thank you for your prompt responce!

Clayton
Phil Nohl  266
08-08-2009 12:07 PM ET (US)
Greetings from Sheboygan, The website I recently created talks briefly about Home Recordings and offers many samples, including a blueprint for a one-hour Public Radio show I'm hoping to get off the ground. It will feature an all Home Recording format - with a few independent studio demos, record booth, and homemade radio recordings thrown into the mix. Check it out and let me know what you think. Use the "contact Phil" page to send me a message. The full radio show is on the page titled "latest program." Thanks in advance for any comments - good or bad. Phil www.snapshotsinsound.com
Tim S.Person was signed in when posted  267
09-07-2009 11:23 PM ET (US)
Thank you, Phil, for today's most excellent informative program on home-recorded records. For those who missed it, listen at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112492435
peter morris  268
09-10-2009 12:42 AM ET (US)
hey now, i have come across some "audiodisc" recordings made by my mother. do you have any advice on handling and playing them? i have a technics sl 1300 with a shure m 97xe cartridge and a rek-o-kut b12 with a ge vrII cartrdge. the vr II has both the 1.0 mil sapphire and .7 mil diamond stylii. they are 10" 33 1/3 rpm, center start records. i would very much appreciate any insight you can give me. you can also reach me at petemorris17@hotmail.com. thanks!
Steve Fried  269
10-01-2009 11:08 AM ET (US)
I have an Audiodisc Recording Blank with
Les Paul recordings of "Sleep" and "Sitting
on Top" (of the World). It is vinyl, recorded
in 78 rpm "inside out." Lots of guitar work.
The label is hand written in ink. Excellent condition.
Any idea of its worth? Thanks.
Harry  270
11-02-2009 02:08 PM ET (US)
I have a Wilcox-Gay Record player A-95
Can any one tell me about this. Is this a collectors item ect. You can e-mail me @ Harryas619@hotmail.com
TC  271
11-28-2009 01:06 AM ET (US)
In the old days, we cut some laquer records, that was a long time ago, but since then I ran across a couple of old laquer records, in Missippi, two of them are, I believe, missing songs recorded by a jazz player, named "Willie Brown", some told me they would be worth a lot of money, does anyone know if the are ? They are suppose to be real collectors items!
Thanks
Tim S.Person was signed in when posted  272
11-28-2009 08:25 AM ET (US)
For one-of-a-kind items such as these, when you are asking "how much is it worth", what you mean is how much would somebody (else) pay for it, preferably top dollar. Are you interested in selling your item? Or do you just want a monetary value to tell about as you show it to people? You would only be able to know a monetary value if you were to sell it in an auction, and only when there are enough interested bidders. You could either try an auction (if you carefully pick one that is likely to attract bidders interested in these items) or find an appraiser. And you've got the economy to worry about as well - inflation, unemployment percentages, etc. If you were to sell on ebay, to attract the right bidders, you would also want to post a link to the auction on as many discussion forums as you can find, such as this one, the Lathe Trolls, etc., to inform as many potential interested bidders as possible. To find an appraiser, check places like howmuchisitworth.com - but all an appraiser can do is take a guess, unless they know of similar items that have been sold in auctions.
Dan  273
11-28-2009 04:00 PM ET (US)
Did a little checking on the Willie Brown recordings. If what I read is correct...there were only 3 know recordings by him and none of them have ever been found. I have a completely restored record cutting machine and it works great and is a lot of fun. Blanks are not easy to find! I wish I could find the owners manual for it!!! Thanks!! Dan
Tim S.Person was signed in when posted  274
11-28-2009 04:04 PM ET (US)
Dan, what sort of record cutting machine do you have, and would you ever be interested in selling? I have found several sources of blanks - they even pop up on ebay from time to time, plus you can even make your own. There are certain picnic plates you can cut into a disc & drill a hole that will work, and someone has had experimental vinyl blank records stamped out from a record press. Transco/Apollo sells new lacquer blanks but they are extraordinarily expensive.
Dan  275
11-28-2009 04:43 PM ET (US)
Hi Tim..It's a Packard-Bell "Phon-o-cord" machine, can't find the model number, but I'm sure it's somewhere on it. Looks brand new! Had it completely rebuilt (amp) and it records and plays like a champ!! I never thought about selling it but maybe. It would be expensive however since I paid over $200 for it and about $300 having it rebuilt..caps, tubes, filters etc. You could email me directly...danny3447@cfl.rr.com. I have several blank disc's and just bid on some on ebay. I use to know where to buy new ones made in (I think) Germany..but can't find the addy right now. Dan
T CORBETT  276
11-29-2009 01:52 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the replies. I have a friend that has an auction company in the UK, and in the past he sold an old, out reduction tape that was given to me one night a paramount recording studios in LA, It was a tape of Jimi Hendrix working on his guitar part on his song, All along the Watch Tower, he asked me to take it and see what I thought of it., it had six or seven segments of him putting the guitar part on, I asked him if he wanted me to listen and give it back, and he said no, keep it for yourself. &#A0;I had copies of it made on a master CD, since the tape during those times, became very fragile. &#A0;I didn't have a need to keep the tape, and my friend in the UK said he had a customer in the US that would pay a lot of money for it.&#A0; Since it was just a working tape, and I had a CD copy, I said that I would be glad to let the collector have it. The guy, insisted that he give me money for it, I did not put it into auction through my friend, but he send me $20 some thousand dollars for it. I am not that avid a collector with old things, I use to manage groups and produce some soundtracks, and a couple of years ago, mixed a master for a German Record Company. &#A0;It has been so long since I had actually cut something on an acetate, I had no idea about that and really appreciate all you help and information. &#A0;I am not sure what I am going to do with these, but my friend in the UK is considered one of the&#A0;"Best sources for information on Rock n Roll stuff in the World. I am sure he would give me a written estimate for the acetates of "Willy Brown", so that I could insure them. &#A0;If it was the missing one, which probably never recorded, but everyone hopes by Robert Johnson, it would be worth whatever anyone wanted for it. &#A0;I plan on keeping these. And will probably have them framed, and put on the wall at my home in Mexico, but will not let anyone know about them that I do not know, It might invited &#A0;I know, even on what I got, that Page, would pay a lot just to own them. &#A0;Thanks for all the help.
&#A0;TC
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PS: If I ever do sell them for any reason, I will sure send you a nice percentage for all your help and information ! Would be glad to send you a few pictures of my home in Mexico if you wanted to see it. You are the only one that responded off that site and really appreciate it.
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, QT - Tim S. <qtopic-21-NUHic5R23suBD@quicktopic.com> wrote:

From: QT - Tim S. <qtopic-21-NUHic5R23suBD@quicktopic.com>
Subject: Acetates and other "Weird" Records
To: "QT topic subscribers" <qtopic-subs@quicktopic.com>
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 7:25 AM


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Tim S.Person was signed in when posted  277
11-29-2009 02:18 PM ET (US)
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Glenn Mittler  278
12-11-2009 10:53 AM ET (US)
I am searching for any home recordings, acetates, etc. of the original Glenn Miller Orchestra of the 30's and early 40's. I also have many home recordings of radio shows (portions) , speeches and the like on home recordings for possible trading or selling.
I can be reached at: glenn_mittler@yahoo.com
M Rainwater  279
01-02-2010 11:27 PM ET (US)
My mother will be 84 yrs. old soon. She recently came across a couple of acetate recordings that she and my deceased aunt made when they were teenagers, in the early 40's. We are wondering if there is someplace in the Sacramento/Stockton, CA area where we can take these acetate records to and have them transferred to CDs. We do not want to mail them anywhere, but would rather take them personally.
I can be contacted at mrainwat50@suddenlink.net
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