Messages 15-13 deleted by topic administrator between 07-22-2006 09:26 AM and 07-21-2006 08:57 AM 12 pbx 05-13-2003 12:26 PM ET (US) Actually, the "Summary" service is a system-wide thing that's been around since 10.2. AFAIK the only visible manifestation of Content Concentrator right now is in the Preview pane. Check out a message with lots of quoting and compare it to that same message opened in a separate window. But again, it's the spam filtering that makes this release huge. No perceptible overhead, nearly twiddle-free, and great accuracy. -- Paul 11 Apricot 05-13-2003 11:37 AM ET (US) I don't get any summary services menu in Eudora (which being Carbon doesn't have access to services). The content concentrator must be something else. As far as I can see, it will probably be a summarize thing that shows up in the preview pane. - Apricot 10 Chuck Brownstein 05-12-2003 03:39 PM ET (US) fyi- after fooling w summary services a bit more, i noticed an application called "summary service" hanging around in the doc. Getinfo brought up its plaque - looks to be an OS bundled applet that Eudora calls... hence the missing Eudora interface. 9 jb 05-12-2003 02:16 PM ET (US) For a while, I was getting discouraged; it looked like Eudora was being abandoned -- at least for the Mac. But lately it seems to have picked up steam. I'll concede that its not the rock solid app it once was. But I'll take it over Mail.app for both speed and stability any day!! 8 Chuck Brownstein 05-12-2003 08:22 AM ET (US) The summarize feature appears in the services menu when text in a message is selected. Nicely hidden tho plausible convention. After playing with it a bit I suspect that, as with MSWord, this feature wont find much use except as a way to edit my own stuff for excessive wordiness. At least I personally (usually) know what I want to convey so don't mind cutting something. Oh well, so far the spam filtering seems to work well. I had installed Spamnix a few days before 6 appeared and between them spam is well contained, tho downloads from the POP server are slowed a bit. 7 Giles Turnbull 05-10-2003 05:22 PM ET (US) Thanks for the tip, Rob. I've upgraded and I'm liking the changes. I use SpamAssassin on my mail server but even that doesn't catch everything, and a few rogue spams still find their way to my inbox. Eudora's Junk catcher has put an end to that. I'm also pleased with all the extra preferences options - there's loads of them now. For example, you can now set the colour of displayed URLs, which you couldn't do before. The only (minor) downside is that dragging the mailboxes window around seems to be somewhat slower than it used to be, but that's no reason not to use the program. 6 Mike Cohen 05-09-2003 07:53 PM ET (US) After using it for a little while, I realized that the mailbox 'drawer' *isn't* a real drawer - it's actually a separate window. You can see it when you bring the window to the front or move it around. Once again, they're reinventing stuff instead of using the toolbox. At least it's nicer than 5.x, which I really hated in OSX. 5 Rob McNair-Huff 05-09-2003 03:18 PM ET (US) Mike, I am still trying to figure that out myself...still digging 4 Mike Cohen 05-09-2003 03:06 PM ET (US) I use Eudora to archive my old mail, because it stores email in plain text files instead of databases that are likely to get corrupted, and it can search all mailboxes faster than anything else. I now use Mail.app as my regular mail client. I haven't been able to find the Content Concentrator feature. How do I access it? 3 Rob McNair-Huff 05-09-2003 01:11 PM ET (US) You are both right about customer support from Qualcomm, but I am looking at Eudora as a user of PowerMail, a program created by a very small company that doesn't even have the resources to create a manual for the latest versions of the program. PowerMail is a nice program, and quite speedy, but updates show up slowly and the only way anyone gets tech support is through an email list. 2 Damien Barrett 05-09-2003 12:51 PM ET (US) I have to agree with Jason here. Many years ago, I was a die-hard Eudora fan--back when email was simple. I stopped using it around version 4.0 and switched over to OE. For all its evils, it had a better interface and reminded me of my favorite email program, Claris Emailer (the same developers worked on both softwares, I believe). Eudora hasn't been a solid and reliable email program for some time. It does have lots of very nice features, but the problems with the client far outweigh the usefulness. For my average clients--who have no need of the advanced features--there are better options: Entourage or Mulberry or even Mail.app (although I'm beginning to hate Mail.app). I'll check out Eudora 6, of course, but I'm not holding my breath. 1 Jason Young 05-09-2003 11:56 AM ET (US) Eudora for us, has been a piece of, well, I can't say it without cussing a lot. We have approximately 150 users that we're using Eudora on (Windows, but similar applies to the Mac versions). For months, on months, on months, Eudora 5 was producing mime boundaries that were incorrect - causing a cascade effect in addition to IMAP - that THEIR OWN CLIENT WOULDN'T PARSE THE MESSAGE properly. The customer support was atrocious - and we are using paid versions across the board. the mbox format is nice, and the fact that it's not Outlook and doesn't suffer the vba problems is nice too, but the outbound email is full of Eudora's own proprietary markup, even when you choose plain text mode, and makes it difficult to migrate. The separation of attachments to a directory away from the message body is a HUGE problem for us - it makes recovery very, very, problematic. Just today, we discovered that one of our users was out of quota in her attachment directory - Eudora has just been trashing the attachments, with no warning at all because it wouldn't write to the directory - she's lost a unknown amount of data. Maybe it is getting better. But Qualcomm's tech support has been so bad for so long, we wouldn't know. We are pushing Mulberry across the board - and I use both Mulberry and Mail on my Macintosh. I will never touch Eudora again because of all the #%#^#$^ problems we've had, with the poorest customer service I've ever seen from a computing company.	Upgrade to PRO Upload pictures, personalize your board, and more! About these ads