I hope you dont mind I started the topic as there was absolutely nothing written at all about Fitzsimons/Fitzsimmons . Wikipedia edited it i tried to get your website and main points across, it is important to get to the real truth across in historical context i think you did a fantastic job. Now there is a lot more information available and cross referenced from different sources hopefully it can all be put together and added too without religious intolerance muddying the waters.


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:01 AM, QT - Mick Fitzsimons <
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I would like to point out that even though I am only 18 I want to get the point across that it's one "m" not two. And now I am spelling it with a capital "s" so everyone knows. I'm the only one it seems to care about my roots.

Charles, both spellings and several others are from the same roots (see http://fitzsimons.info ) and an article from Mick Fitzsimons (small "s" amd one "m") who has an interesting article here
http://fitzsimons.info/one-m-or-two.html which contends that the double-m spelling is predominantly from the English side.

Only today my son Aaron FitzSimons found his name misspelled in today's paper by a journalanist who despite Aaron spelling it as above and stressing the upper case "S" one the one "m", she still couldn't help herself and spelled it by the most prevalent spelling as "Fitzsimmons".

I have had a lifetime of this indeed not only in spelling it, but by pronouncing FitzSimons (like Fitz-Sigh-mons) only to be immediately corrected by them "OK Mr Fitzsimmons". It's a lost battle Charles. :-)

Wayne - are you in Australia? _I have now moved to Sydney.. I think I know your cousin Alejandra (think u did some of her web design.

My Fitzsimons clan is 1st generation from co Westmead - dad is from them. I was in Florida for a few years and now then Ireland again, and now with this crazy worldwide economy - Australia had the work.

Paul

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Hello all, I will start by saying that this is a really cool site, very nice indeed.

My father's parents were born in Dublin, and moved to England and shortly thereafter on to Quebec. My mother's parents were born in Sheffield, England.

My father's father (obviously) was Sheeran, Anglicized version of O'Sirin, variations on the spelling of which are numerous: Sherren, Sheerin, etc.

Anyways, my father's mother was a FitzsiMMons, I believe, at least it was pronounced fitz-him-ons. Her first name was Shelagh, which is of course very Irish.

After reading Mick's article I now have some questions, and was wondering would you all be able to clear this up for me:

I am now wondering whether my grandmother was of an Anglo-Irish family settled in Dublin, hence the English spelling of the name. She was also a Presbyterian, which is of course Protestant, but of a Scottish variety. How confusing.

Or was her family one of those which misspelt the name, or had it re-spelt for them at some point. The evidence which suggests that she is not Anglo-Irish is her first name, Shelagh, which is very Gaelic, but of course this could be an example of Anglo-Irish embracing their country, as many did.

I am not as anxious to distance myself from the English as some of you seem to be, my mother being mainly of English extraction; this is merely a historical curiosity.

If you would be so kind as to point me in a direction where I may be able to find an answer to this question, I would be much obliged. Mark's hypothesis that any Fitzsimmonses in Ireland are most likely to be English-Protestant raises some other questions, and requires elaboration. Looking at the Irish Times website, which has a lot on Irish names, I saw that there was 55 occurrences of Fitzsimmons (late 18th - early 19th century), most of them from Down I believe, which was where the FitzSiMons were said to have abounded. Surely this indicates that the spelling Fitzsimmons must have been more common than Mick's article implies - or maybe English Fitzsimmonses flocked to Down so that they could be with Irishpeople of the same name? Right.

Anyways, I would love to hear more about this. Thanks so much for your patience, and one M or two, happy new year!

(Iam posting this on your new forum)