whats ur email?

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:43 PM, QT - Emma Fitzsimons <
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Hi Henry...i must have deleted my original email by accident! I suppose for personal reasons I have trying to research the origins of the surname Fitzsimons. So far, I have gathered that its an Anglo Norman/Irish name...the normans being descended from Viking Pirates that moved to the area of France we now know as Normandy. Simon/Sigmundr - now this is where my interest kicks in - because Sigmundr was a name of the God Odin - a name, because he has many names apparently, and this is one of them.

I know nothing more. I expected the internet to be really helpful...but its not being kind to me at the moment in relation to learning more about the surname. If you get any info at all, let me know! :D

Yes I came up with some related items too, mostly researching scandivian norwegian viking countries is helpful I did come across a tribal leader who united all of the Scandinavian countries. It all seems to fit in well for example we have magnus magnusson, which means son of magnus and fitz is a prenom for son of there is sigurdson simonson etc etc to be honest i did loads of research but i forget half of it. There are the sagas which tell of all the different wars and leaders which can help. I dont know how to follow the trail beyond this time. Many vikings had o+ blood
There is some interesting dna links for example y chromosones,
(Dear Mr Fitzsimons



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To Henry Fitzsimons, Emma Fitzsimons and Harry, regarding the origins of the Fitzsimons name. It is quite a complex answer as the name predated it’s emergence in Ireland and came from England. Just where the various branches came from is also complex. Some at least from Norfolk and Lincolnshire are thought to have come from the Danish Vikings that settled there, other branches from the Normans and some from the Hebrew Shimeon, so it is impossible to distinguish between the various origins. There are also several Coat of Arms for the surname Fitzsimons and only one that I have come across for Fitzsimmons.

You may like to see, http://www.fitzsimons.info/one-m-or-two.html which I submitted in August 2003, though written long before that date. I must update this one day.

Wayne FitzSimons who started this forum has an excellent website for the surname at http://www.fitzsimons.info/index.html.

There you will find a link to the new forum at http://www.fitzsimons.info/fitzforum/index.php

Please join this new forum, where you can post new topics. Take a little time to explore it, so you can get the best value from what it has to offer. It also includes post from this QT Forum, so that nothing has been lost. See Wayne’s post No’s 158 and 164, for more information. We can turn this new forum into a really useful tool for our common research, though to do so will require more participation from new members.

Henry raises an interesting point about DNA and I would be very interested to hear of any results that people have from this test.

Regards to all,

Mick Fitzsimons
Victoria
Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw
seems to be right area for danish ...
apparently the co down fitzsimons are from normandy and the meath and pembrokeshire are danish hmm mayne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzsimons

Mick There is a new wikipedia page collating information on Fitzsimons Family this can be added to if anyone has historical or other info was quite interesting reading notable figures, in particular Thomas Fitzsimons one of Founding Fathers of the United States of America.
http://www.adherents.com/people/pf/Thomas_Fitzsimons.html

Thanks Harry, I didn't know they had the name listed. Funny enough, they have quoted a paragraph that I wrote:

"Those with the surname that originated from the Norfolk, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire area of Britain were thought to be Scandinavian and of the genere Danus, as the area was settled by Danish Vikings and predate the Norman invasion in 1066 AD."

They name the website it was from, but forgot to mention the author. This quote is from the piece I thought you may be interested in reading. A shame really, because I have upset a few people over the years who refuse to believe that their Irish Fitzsimmons ancestors, were in fact Fitzsimons, even when they have found this through their own research. Some think that all the historical data is wrong and all references to the name should have 'mm' in it. One bloke in the USA, even had his own tartan made and spelt Fitzsimmons. His Irish Catholic ancestors would turn in their graves at this injustice to their surname being associated with Protestants.

In my research of the name all over the world, I use the spelling that was on original documents. It could be one version for birth, another for marriage and could be a combination of several different spellings for the birth of their kids. That way you can see how various branches of one family now have different spelling for their name.

Regards,

Mick Fitzsimons

I hope you dont mind I started the topic as there was absolutely nothing written at all about Fitzsimons/Fitzsimmons . Wikipedia edited it i tried to get your website and main points across, it is important to get to the real truth across in historical context i think you did a fantastic job. Now there is a lot more information available and cross referenced from different sources hopefully it can all be put together and added too without religious intolerance muddying the waters.


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:01 AM, QT - Mick Fitzsimons <
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