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lugolounge@comcast.net  779
05-21-2004 08:59 AM ET (US)
Yea I just heard this also.
NEW GROUP LOG: NYC SUBWAY

I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU

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> NYC Trying to Ban Photography in the Subways and Busses
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> I just heard this on the radio this morning. Another
> brilliant idea in the war on terror. Time to send money to
> the ACLU.


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jw_arch  780
05-21-2004 09:50 AM ET (US)
striking that even as they try to increase MTA surveillance, they want to prohibit straphangers from taking fotos.
wolfeyPerson was signed in when posted  781
05-21-2004 04:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-21-2004 04:19 PM
THe subway's got to be the softest major target in the city.
luluvisionPerson was signed in when posted  782
05-21-2004 07:24 PM ET (US)
I forgot whose fotolog I read this on but we should totally have a fotolog shootout on the subway before/if this law does go into effect!! damn MTA!
Bruce GrantPerson was signed in when posted  783
05-22-2004 08:29 AM ET (US)
Actually, since the article said that artists were entitled to permits, I was imagining a mass registration drive. "SUBWAY ARTISTS THRONG CITY HALL."
wolfeyPerson was signed in when posted  784
05-22-2004 10:26 AM ET (US)
It's not a law yet, just a proposal by the MTA, and now Bloomberg has come out against it.
jackiesPerson was signed in when posted  785
05-22-2004 10:37 AM ET (US)
I was worried when I heard of the upcoming possible NYC law only to find out I've been breaking the NJ Transit law all along. See http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/ba...085040351286192.xml

Grr. All the regular conductors and engineers on my regular commuting line know about my camera and shots. No one even told me. I'm going to continue, although I've asked NJT about getting a permit.
anon_ms_b  786
05-24-2004 01:15 AM ET (US)
looks like our right to violate others privacy on the subway won't be violated... hurrah! no, really, I mean that... in other news, naked lunch sounds HORRIBLE, and getting to Brooklyn is hard for a lot of us, so I nominated a new venue for meetup...
wolfeyPerson was signed in when posted  787
05-24-2004 04:05 PM ET (US)
I'm pretty sure that Bloomberg doesn't get a veto on this, however.
oh_snap  788
05-24-2004 07:37 PM ET (US)
Protest slogans:

Cameras don't shoot people. People shoot people.

If you criminalize cameras, only criminals will have cameras.

You can have my camera when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
hoyumpa-visionPerson was signed in when posted  789
05-24-2004 07:44 PM ET (US)
Beautiful....absolutely poetic.

Bravo!
jw_archibald  790
05-24-2004 08:27 PM ET (US)
oh_snap! you are the MAN!
let's have tshirts made.
maybe we can get Charlton Heston to be our spokesperson.
anon_ms_b  791
05-25-2004 12:51 AM ET (US)
okay, ban bad... ban should be protested... Bloomberg doesn't have a veto...

a well known photographer whose name escapes me took some spyshots on the subway in the fifties I think, using a camera placed strategically so he wouldn't have to look through the viewfinder... All portraits... MTA needs to be reminded of the value of this kind of work.

vote for meetup at 11th Street!
hillspan  792
05-25-2004 06:35 AM ET (US)
That was Walker Evans. He rigged his camera with a periscope like device so he could see what he was shooting and position the frame without pointing the camera directly at the subject.
jw_archibald  793
05-25-2004 08:33 AM ET (US)
sophie calle did a similar thing in her work "venitienne" in the 80's, where she followed some guy to venice and took spyshots of him.
  http://www.hausderkunst.de/englisch/aus/daten_pages/0008.html
jw_archibald  794
05-25-2004 08:36 AM ET (US)
oh, and (as you know) panhandling, grafitti and riding between cars: also illegal on the subway... but there's still plenty of that. i dont see my subway photography habits changing much...
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