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The most obviously fake Iraq blog is
"Iraq the Model"
I posted a comment there saying that from the text,
I could tell it was written by an US East Coast Male
who had visited Iraq maybe once.
It started by saying how great it was that Uncle ___
had a job in the National Guard, with a new uniform.
My url was promptly banned from comments.

jleader, I'm looking for my sites. One of them, that claimed the internet had been cut, has been updated. Read it and it refers to the "alleged" cut off of service.

http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/features/html/iraq-internet.html

I'm still looking, but will get back with the link that talks about who has the ability to receive email (not just send it).

Ahhhhh! A computer programmer! You ARE smart. Computers and me? Like a car, I can drive one, but don't need to know all the gorey engine details--like how it works.

I'll try to find the articles. Sort of like changing an car's oil--I can do it, but it's not pretty.

Actually, Thury, I'm a programmer, and I guess it shows. Lawyers' jobs involve arguing with people; programmers' jobs involve arguing with computers, which are _much_ picker about facts!

Anyway, do you have any links to articles about all of Iraq's Internet access being cut off? I haven't been able to find much info one way or the other. The excerpt you posted below said "only [certain people] receive email at all, and Iraqi authorities are now blocking access to the system". Given the context, I assumed "system" referred to the Iraqi ISP's email servers, not Internet access as a whole.

Incidentally, there's what appears to be a pretty good up-to-date summary of Salam Pax's blog from the Philadelphia Inquirer, at http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5490233.htm and another on Wired News at http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,58206,00.html

Neither story mentions Internet access from Iraq being cut off, which of course doesn't prove anything one way or the other, but suggests the March 14 article you keep mentioning might not still be correct.

Are you a lawyer, jleader? You sound like one. Symantics, symantics. Internet access ceased on the 14th. At least according to some sites I've been to that claim to know. Now you're going to say, "I thought you were skeptical about things on the internet," and I am. You inferred expertise.

"Probably most others" are not blocked? That's an assumption. You know what happens when you ASSume.

I'm in Los Angeles, Thury, and I never claimed to be an expert on Iraqi Internet access (or much of anything else), though I know a little bit about the technical side of Internet and email protocols.

I just think you're reading too much into a non-technical article that over-generalized the situation. The excerpts you posted didn't say "internet access was ceased", they said "email access was ceased". Two very different things. The excerpt also talked about blocking some sites, which implies that others (probably most others) are not blocked. Which would suggest that Salaam Pax might still be able to read his email (and post to his blog) from Iraq.

The article I read says that internet access was ceased on or before the 14th of March. If he posted on the 24th, how did he manage that?

If he's for real, I hope he's okay, too. However, I'm the spouse of a Marine and I tend to view these things from a different angle than some.

Just like I picture anyone in chat rooms as "Dirks," (Dirks are grimey old guys, cigar stubb in their mouths, dressed in dirty teeshirts and boxer shorts and belching up their Schlitz. Their chat room names are "foxybabe," "ironman," or some such pseudonymn.) I picture Pax to be some guy having the time of his life pulling the proverbial wool over "our" eyes.

And where are you, jleader? How are you an expert on Iraqi internet service provider access?

Sorry, Thury, didn't mean to appear defensive. I guess I don't understand your point. You said "Guess he answered the question [of whether he's real or not]." That was the point I'm trying to address; I don't see that there's been any definitive answer to that question.

I pointed out that your reasoning was flawed; just because many ordinary people in Iraq have difficulty receiving email (as the article claimed), and Salaam Pax has received email, doesn't mean Salaam Pax isn't an ordinary person in Iraq. It might _suggest_ that he's more likely to be a fake than we'd otherwise thought, but it doesn't _answer_ the question. Though the article says "the government ... blocks foreign email servers", I doubt that they can find and block all forms of email access.

Why do you say to check out the dates on the blog? I know he's posted recently about losing his Internet access for a few days at a time, but he got it back on the 24th. As far as I could see, he hasn't posted since then. I hope he's OK.

That last article exerpt was written 14 March. Check out the dates on the blog.

I'm not trying to "prove" anything. Don't get so defensive. Sheesh.

"Not many Iraqis actually have access to email, which is controlled by the government. Only government officials, senior public servants, scientists and some academics receive email at all, and Iraqi authorities are now blocking access to the system to stop the spread of the emails. Although Iraq does have internet capabilities, too, the government restricts many sites and blocks foreign email servers."

Thury, "highly restricted and highly monitored" is not "unable". There are literally thousands of web-based email interfaces; if Salaam Pax has a POP3 mail account outside Iraq, and uses a web-based interface to access it, it's unlikely the Iraqi government would notice. If he's got web access and he's reasonably clever, he can get email. So you haven't _proved_ anything.

jleader, no, it's just semantics. They aren't "able" to receive email. They cannot get it.

Thury, I think you're confusing "allowed" to receive email with "able" to receive email. So that doesn't prove anything one way or the other.

Just something to think about:

Yesterday it was revealed on the news, that under Saddam's regime, citizens of Iraq are able to SEND email, but are not able to RECEIVE email. Internet usage is highly restricted and highly monitored. In Raed's blog, he says that he's gotten a ton of email asking if the site is a hoax. Guess he answered the question.

...what the hell are you talking about? Object Oriented Programming? imagination prevails over banal truth ?? Dialectics 101 ??? Wh, wh, wh what?!?

What did you do, wipe your butt on pages ripped from the nearest dictionary?

is the URL address to this blog...does anybody know???

Who knows? Maybe he is real, maybe he isn't. But does it really matter? As long as we don't quote him in the newspaper, I think it really doesn't matter. Because even if this blogger is just a hoax, he does somehow give a human face to the people in Bagdad. On the news we only see tanks, frontlines, reporters talking about battles, but the regular people in bomb shelters 'don't carry microphones. Even if this Salam guy is a hoax, he makes us realize that we are talking about real people here, and not some sort of computer game.

All Akhbar,
Come on, I can not believe that Westerners are so gullible!
If you remember Osama's tape, they were trading fairy-tales sitting around their round-table. Abdullah had this premonition, Hassan had this and so on. You have to understand how those "fantasies" important, how they live the lives of their own, how they interact, how they being referenced, etc. Those who are familiar with concepts of Object Oriented Programming with good old Algebra embedded into the code may understand it easier. If your propaganda wants to be successful, it should be not based on casuality expressed in laconic terms, it should be based on flying carpet stories. This is the case where imagination prevails over banal truth. The guy was certainly a plant and having fun while practising "Western Way" of primitive barbarians which is what they are believing right now you are.

Without the real, the merciless shock-n-awe you won't win their hearts and minds. Dialectics 101.

Okay you idealistic dreamers. The odds of a regualar Iraqi citizen not only accessing the internet, but actually posting blogs remotely critical of Saddam and the regime are slim and none. This person is obviously a plant in an attempt to sway public opinion in favor of stopping the war. Hopefully this link will work, if not look up "internet Cafe in Baghdad" story by ABCnews, it doesn't matter all stories tell of the same situation. Total government control over internet access, information both coming and going. http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/...internet021205.html

Where is Salaam Pax?
I miss him a lot right now...

Edited by author 03-22-2003 04:34 AM
Rings truish, this Salam Pax gentleman - just one tiny whisper of doubt from this morning, when the Iraqi Crisis Report (from the Institute for War and Peace Reporting, emailed every day, well worth a look at www.iwpr.net) had a piece from "an iraqi" in Baghdad which was identical - bar some shifting of paragraphs around - to the 21/03/03 0705am posting on Dear_Raed. Who's ripping off who - or is IWPR's anonymous correspondent really salam pax? Any guesses? Haven't been in touch with IWPR to find out, it being the weekend, but interesting nonetheless.

like much else to do with the war the question as to the reality salam paxs location & motives are not completely descernable 'facts'. he has become the ultimate mirror for each to see themselves in.

imo imagining a iraqi disinformation agent with an in depth knowledge of 80 uk indie music is more unlikely than salams real story.

still he does seem almost too good to be true but why not.

Edited by author 03-21-2003 05:58 AM
We're already seeing how the Net and modern-day technology is affecting the presentation of this war. It's making for a surreal experience. Right now, I'm watching MSNBC and they have live footage of an American troop convey moving north into Iraq. The reporter is nonchalantly riding atop a tank recovery vehicle. The satellite transmission was flawless for over 20 minutes. Then there's been live footage of actual combat shown at night, which looks like lossy webcam video. Seeing this stuff is already unbelieveable enough. The pervasiveness of the Net, the imagery of it and ready access to this medium, is clearly influencing this war. So the idea of some Iraqi guy blogging from Baghdad doesn't seem far-fetched in comparison.

Actually, _x, I tend to think of his blog as proof that you can be "anti-war" (which he obviously is, and so much for "liberating" the people of Iraq. . .here's one who doesn't want our favors) without being "anti-American" or "anti-Bush". As someone who opposes the war and is sick and tired of being painted as an America-hater, I certainly welcome this perspective from the other side.

I love my country dearly. . .that's why I don't want it to do fucked up things.

What's with the '_' in the url? Is that legal? Obviously he's real.

Edited by author 03-20-2003 07:43 PM
Pure cheese, ___x. Mr. Pax lives in Baghdad. His political opinions (to the extent that we can even tell what they are) are about Iraq, Iraq's relations with the world, what's happening in Iraq, and the future well-being of his friends and relatives in Iraq. He doesn't exist to bolster one faction in the US, or provide an excuse to bash another.

I think it is pretty obvious that he is legit. I think the only question is if he is speaking on the behalf of a particular political viewpoint, organization, or government.
Those who oppose the current liberation of Iraq (Face it, it wasn't going to happen any other way.) don't see him pandering to the anti-America/anti-Bush/Anti-War crowd, although he is not exactly a supporter of military intervention (who would be in his shoes)so they have to "question" his legitimacy.

Link to site

For what my ear is worth, he sounds real to me. He may not be telling us all he is or knows or does, but the voice rings true.

It would take a lot for his writing to not be real. All the established forms -- press releases, military reports, advertising copy, standard news reportage, etc. -- have their own stylized diction. This makes them relatively easy to copy. Mr. Salaam Pax is just talking as he pleases, which is much harder to fake.

Hoax or real. That about sums up most of what we'll be exposed to for the next while. The spin cycle is on high.