Im sure the powers~that~be will be managing what we see& dont see once War begins. No doubt a lot more times in coming weeks when "the satellite phone failed..."99% of all "news" coming out of Iraq will be pure propaganda.The "electronic" media is no different.Just because its via blog doesnt make it anymore trustworthy.

As far as I know, the head of Iraq desk at CIA at the time said in an article that the Iraqis had not been the only ones to gas that place at the time. I would like to be sure of the information we get. But that guy said the Iranians had also sprayed gas. The place was in a battle zone

Note that does not make the Iraqi power nicer to my eyes. Just, I have that feeling that we get a lot of focus about what the Iraqi did, because it would justify what is going to happen now. But still... can you ask over there if anyone can confirm if the Iranians actually were at it too ?

The message boards have too many unanswered questions. Would you call this a typical war where no one finds out part of the whole truth until many years later?

hey all, have limited internet connex so it's hard to respond in a timely fashion. i realize halabja has become a rallying point for the bush adminstration in it's push to disarm saddam hussein. in taking the pulse of the kurds here--they want that too. they've been in constant conflict with saddam hussein for some time. in terms of reports on the iraqi use of these weapons, the studies indicate the mix of mustard and nerve agents used were common to stockpiles use by iraqi forces. halabja wasn't an isolated incident, just one of the biggest. there were 40 reported gas attacks by the iraqi's during the eight years of the iran iraq war. as far as iranian use of the weapons, human rights monitors so far have ascertained only iraqi use of chemical weapons in that area. i'll try to be as far and impartial in my reporting as possible--also, for perspective i will have a limited view, just a slice of what's going on in the whole region overall. devour all you can about it, my stuff is just anoter bite. suzn, i think this war may be the most widely covered in history. hopefully all will be laid out for you to make your own honest assessment, unlike the highly media controlled war in afghanistan and the 91 gulf war.

58 years ago Harry Truman launched an unprecedented nuclear weapons attack on 2 Japanese cities.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm#05

Here is the CIA report from last year, 2002. It says that Iranians and Kurds were killed at Halabja and the numbers were in the hundreds.

The world press failed to see what even George W Bush must know: that this incident was exaggerated to get war going in 1991. A major failure, really Tonkin-sized.

Didn't the Army War College determine that the Halabja Kurds were killed by a type of gas that the Iraqis did not possess, and therefore were most likely killed by Iranian gas?

I really don't get why people are, at this date, still trying to deny that Saddam Hussein and his army used chemical weapons agains tthe Iranians and the Kurds. Are they Saddam apologists? Or are they so enamoured of conspriacy theories that they can't accept anythign as true unless they peel six layers of lies from around it first?

The UN, SIPRI, and the FAS have all reported on the use of phosgene and mustard gas and tabun and sarin nerve agent by the Iraqi army against the Iranians (as well as CW use by Iran against Iraq) and on the use of mustard gas and tabun by Iraq against its Kurdish population. It's not a mystery, or a conspiracy, or a plot to make poor old Saddam "look" guilty. He *is* guilty. The US is far from innocent, as it appears quite possible that some of the weapons or their components came from the US. But to try to downplay the horror of Iraq's use of chemical weapons, especially on unarmed civilian populations, is not only despicable, it's foolish, given all the evidence.

hey i jsut want you guyz to know tha t i dont have a question i have a statement
you know what im glad that we r at war some poeple wounder y but u know what....if we only knew what Sadam was doing to his people..i mean we here about them... like he shot a guy for disagreeing with him right on the spot! he killed HIS SON for disagreeing with him he just cut off a guyz tounge and hung him up on a post so every1 could sit there and watch him die!!! this man is Pure evil and the only way to stop him is the right amount of force supplied! So when some1 askes y we r doing this it pisses me off!!! it shouldnd be y we r doing this it should be y werent we doing this earlier!!!never ever say that u hate our president bc we can disagree with him and he wont kill us! We can only wounder what would be going on with us if Sadam was our President when the people in Iraq have to c it and feel it every day fear..the fear of dieing bc u dont agree with him when we have freedom they have w hat i would call slavery the slavery of not havei ng freedom of speach so remember not y we r doing this but y didnt we do this earlier!

Bex_Bush: I have no doubt that everyone in this forum agrees that Saddam is a monster, a tyrant. The point being discussed is why must all the Iraqi people be punished. If technology is so advanced; if the US can afford to spend billions of dollars on defense; why could they not try another method to overthrow Saddam? The same thing happened with bin Laden. Where is he now? Who knows what will happen when Saddam can't be located. Where next?

The way I see it at this point is good luck to our fighting people. I was against the war, before-hand but now that it has started I have to support our soldiers. It seems that there is not going to be much fighting until we reach Baghdad. I believe that is when there will be fighting lets just hope there is a minimum of loss on both sides. I hope we keep the Turks out of the North somehow. I hope Saddam gets "dethroned" fast. I hope the future is better for the Iraqi people.

I suppose I didn't have to click on the URL Mr. Zimnoch posted but unfortunately I did. A little heavyhanded and one sided. I think in way this subject header has expanded beyond the original Kurd attack. I still pose the question of do we wait for continued atrocities to be committed by this man or do we move? Eventhough, the answer is before us I still ask it. And yes, where did all of our billions of dollars in technology go that can't put a bullet in one mans' head? We need some martyrs in the CIA or something for that to happen.

Edited by author 03-22-2003 07:55 AM
Why do you think that Saddams men havnt used the mix of mustard and nerve agents yet?
.ebench

stop this foolish war

Hey totti you should wake up and smell the coffee. But then again there were always people like you that supported HITLER as well. Maybe you should go and crawl under the same rock as Hilter and saddam. You blatantly think that these two scumballs are have a reason to destroy the lives of others. Only a coward runs away and hides like you. Maybe you haven't got it in your thick head that the world ignorned this before and millions of people died. I understand that YOU totti forget easily.

at first i was aigainst the war but now i understand that if we don't stop saddam he will suply alqieda with missiles ect.
i feel really angry at the fact that protesters are still protesting.
it's to late you can't stop the war for goodness sake give our soldiers some support there risking there lives in very hostile grounds just for us.