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| Abelard Lindsay
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03-21-2003 04:08 PM ET (US)
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"Violence and destruction is counterproductive. These demonstrators might as well be working for the Bush white house."
-Bingo.
Can you say Agents Provocateurs?
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| Eli the Bearded
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03-21-2003 12:47 PM ET (US)
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On the other hand, the SF rallies were big enough that the
BBC was mentioning them on the radio. I didn't hear any other
US rallies mentioned.
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| Jerry Kindall
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03-21-2003 12:37 PM ET (US)
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Never underestimate the power of pissing people off to change the public's mind -- against you.
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| voiceofthewhirlwind
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03-21-2003 12:01 PM ET (US)
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A little while back there was a protest of a police shooting that briefly shut down an interstate, and one interviewed motorist basically said: "I supported their cause earlier, but because they've inconvenienced me for ten minutes I've change my mind completely."
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03-21-2003 06:27 AM ET (US)
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See my post below about British troops being asked not to raise the flag. What's the first thing the US Marines do? see.. http://www.owdo.blogspot.comNo respect for the Iraqis or the British allies. |
| roadknight
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03-21-2003 05:47 AM ET (US)
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LeftBlank, I totally agree. What was the point? That you can BART in from Emeryville into SF, make some noise, screw up the day of a bunch of people who agree with you, kick around newspaper racks and then run back to your nice little comfy suburban homes?
WTF?
Go do that shit in your own neighborhood and stay out of mine.
For the 2nd night in a row they've basically blocked my way to some volunteer work I needed to get to.
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| chico haas
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03-21-2003 04:28 AM ET (US)
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The media in SF have done a thorough job covering the rallies, so there shouldn't be any complaints here. The one bright spot on this sober day was the Chronicle's WAR headline, which, with a little extra effort, could've achieved a full Onion by placing the R on the second line.
Thanks for the link, Dave.
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| Stefan Jones
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03-21-2003 01:06 AM ET (US)
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The protesters in Portland have been pretty busy. They shut down I-84 and I-5. Past rush hour, but still not a great idea if their goal was to make friends, though.
If their point was to give the finger to the "shut up or leave the country" crowd, they've made it.
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| Trevor F Smith
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| Kevin Burton
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| LeftBlank
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03-20-2003 11:06 PM ET (US)
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Violence and destruction is counterproductive. These demonstrators might as well be working for the Bush white house. They are destroying the credibility of th peace movement. They are fucking idiots.
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| harhar
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03-20-2003 10:15 PM ET (US)
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| lalas
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03-20-2003 08:42 PM ET (US)
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This picture from the protest really disturbs me. |
| mike
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03-20-2003 07:57 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-20-2003 07:58 PM
Thinking more about it, I agree with boingboing addict that it's not completely wasted energy. Raising one's voice to let other's know they're not alone in dissent is a good thing. In fact, I am somewhat heartened that the message of protest seems to be reaching the citizien's of other countries, letting them know that U.S. citizens aren't all behind this terrible decision. But, I think that message has been sent by the weekend protests across our country over the past month -- which will most likely continue this weekend.
I'm just frustrated with the overly-dramatic way in which those voices have expressed themselves on the main streets of S.F. today. I don't see how getting one's self arrested for standing on Market street at rush hour does a lick of good. Why not protest in Civic Center or Justin Herman Plaza? It's not like the media would fail to cover a massive protest in S.F. if it didn't snarl our already-bad traffic.
How are hundreds of idling cars making matters better?
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| boogah
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03-20-2003 07:47 PM ET (US)
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they may not be doing it by the time anyone gets around to it but there's a shoutcast stream of the sfpd's radios available here. |
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03-20-2003 06:50 PM ET (US)
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I agree I think people need to show how they feel, even if no one listens, we can't be robots about something as important as war!
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| boingboing addict
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03-20-2003 06:42 PM ET (US)
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mike i don't think it's wasted energy. even if nobody in the political establishment cares about the protests, citizens who are opposed to the war are listening. it's nice to know there are people who feel the same way you do. it's inspiring that people are willing express themselves in this way.
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| Mahlen Morris
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03-20-2003 06:32 PM ET (US)
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It wasn't just Downtown either. Driving down Oak from the ocean side of S.F., traffic just stopped at Divisadero. I got a bit further in, not quite to Church and Market, and then gave up and came home. So I would expect that the Mission, Castro, and SOMA areas were locked as well.
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03-20-2003 06:20 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-20-2003 06:23 PM
Most of my office is glued to the windows watching the afternoon protest stream down California St. toward Market. At lunch I saw a sheriff's bus full of arrested protesters driving down Market toward the Embarcadero. As I sit at my desk listening to CNN radio, one commentator is saying the first two heroes of the war have emerged: two U.S. pilots who dropped "bunker busters" on Iraq with little or no cover from our troops. Every five minutes they're reminding listeners that we still haven't unleashed "shock and awe", like it's something we should all be eagerly awaiting.
I can't help but feel protests like the one here are a bit futile -- wasted energy and voices which are falling on deaf ears in D.C.
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| boingboing addict
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Good too see pix. Thanks.
It's unfortunate that peace activists have to resort to civil disobedience to make themselves heard, but the corporate media isn't interested in making their viewpoint heard so we wouldn't hear from them at all if they didn't make these kinds of protest.
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That was moving. Thanks Mr.Dutton.
The "protestors" arresting commerce in my California birthplace shows they are more about insurrection and disruption then peace.
UN security Council. "un-security council" is appropriate after 12 years of failure to help the poeple of Iraq and for it's utter failure and complete debocle concerning it's resolutions. They should be disbanded. Where is the protest aginst them?
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| Dave Dutton
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Sorry to be off topic but have a look at a wonderful and very moving speech by a British army commander preparing his men for war. It moved some of the hard guys to tears and it deserves a wider audience. http://www.owdo.blogspot.com/Thank you. |
| Jamais Cascio
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I do find it a little frustrating that the city that gets shut down is the city where easily three-quarters or more of the population opposes the war.
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