I am a German National permanent resident of the United States (Let the flames begin!) and it greatly saddens me how people are completely oblivious to the fact that this war is _killing_ civilians everyday. The Media is talking about High-Tech weapons, military strategy, "surgical" air strikes. _No_: People are dying, war is messy, and it is all about oil. Sell your SUVs, and don't let the Media and the US government brainwash you into believing that this is an initiative to free the people of Iraq. All of a sudden I can't get DW-TV German news on cable TV anymore, censorship is happening! And all in the name of democracy. Read: "The political economy of the mass media" by Noam Chomsky. And please: Don't say the French are greedy and President Bush is waging war out of the goodness of his heart. (And in the process trying to distract from the internal economical shambles he has created). _Wake up_ America! ... and thanks for creating this forum, I was getting tired of reading the call for war messages on the Newton list ... and no: I don't care about Patriotism, if it is used to kill people, using history's analogies: Hitler did the same thing to the Germans: You are unpatriotic, if you are not with us, you are against us ... Us - them ... Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?! (Do you want total war!?). Good vs. Evil. If Good kills does it not in turn become Evil?