Welcome To The New And Improved Jamestown Quick Topic

Hi folks, we have some stuff left over from our (rainy) yard sale. First 4th in Jamestown too, should have moved the cookies to the park! So, I still have a bunch of chocolate chip cookies, baked myself, 100% vegan and made with organic ingredients. Also we have a big tiki-style outdoor umbrella, a large-size cat carrier, a cat litter box w/scoop and mat to catch the stuff they track out, some cat harnesses and leashes, 2 small gerbil/mouse/dwarf hamster wheels, some leather conditioned for horse equipment, and a boot remover(for when your boots are dirty and you don't want to pull them off with your hands I guess). All prices are negotiable. We also have two more expensive portable mini DVD players for which we are asking $100-110.00 each. If you're interested in any of this stuff please give us a call! 303-818-2124

J'townians....
Great party...this year my driveway became a parking place which everyone respected. Thank you very much. And, also there was very little garbage to pick up...thank you again very much. One more thing, someone left a car cable on the ground...looks important...so...if your car seems maybe a little ill maybe this cable is yours. Also, another thank you to all the people that have managed to keep their critters not pottying on the lawn up here...it smells better. Jamestown is one of the few places I've lived where people actually love and care for their critters. So many of you take the time to walk your dogs...most people anymore don't have the time.
Blessings to you all.....Judy Mc

Good Afternoon All! Thank you to everyone who came out and made this year's celebration one of the best! I hope everyone had a FABULOUS time yesterday and congrats once again to our newlyweds, Chris and Lulu.

I was planning to post a thank you note to all that helped throughout the day, but in true Williams spirit, Laura has beaten me to the punch! I of course second EVERYTHING Laura posted below and want to repeat a HUGE THANK YOU to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who signed up, pitched in and/or in one way or another made the day something to remember!! Sara and I definitely could not have done even a fraction of this by ourselves!!!

I have one more request for the year...

WE NEED A CLEAN UP CREW!!
The tables and chairs in the upper small park need to be returned to the Town Hall as do the Town Tents and tables in the lower park! If you are able to pitch in, please come find either Sara or myself and we'll put ya to work!

Thank you once again to EVERYONE in our marvelous commUNITY who helped to make one of our favorite days of the year a HUGE success!!!

Oh BTW, have submitted a TARP request to the Obama camp to supply us with a good, albeit, used teleprompter for Joe's next wedding. He seemed to have had a hard time saying the word "VOWS"...Cuckles!!! A wonderful Wedding LuLu and Chris it was very beautiful!!!
Stumpski

Thanks everyone especially the breakfast crew!!! The breakfast went off with great gusto and I thing we all had fun...and made money for the JVFD.
Stumpski

Pancakes Please????

I like to listen to the booms, cracks and hisses that the fireworks themselves provide...and then the oohs and aahs that follow. None of that can be heard when there's music playing. This isn't to say that I don't like Chad's DJ-ing. I do like his DJ-ing. It's just that I like fireworks displays with their own sound. But that's just my own personal preference; it's how it was when I was a kid watching and listening in my pajamas.

WOWIE! Please read this carefully to the end...

Just when I think I had the best July 4th ever (last year), another one comes along to surpass it yet again! WHAT A GREAT DAY AND NIGHT topped by a phenomenal fireworks display thanks to JVFD!!! I learned later that our beloved Fire Chief, Rob Kohler, bought the grand finale HEARTS DISPLAY with his own money specifically with Chris and Lulu in mind! What an incredible commUNITY of peace, love, and happiness that I am so glad and proud to be part of!!!

Of course, I am never able to say ALL that I should say on the microphone throughout the day, so I would like to reiterate DEEP and SINCERE THANKS on behalf of JVFD/EMS to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who worked so hard and joined in this enormous commUNITY effort. Together we created another raging success...

Leaders of the Pack -- GAYLE TOWNER & SARA MILLIGAN

Power in the Parks -- TAMI MAURER & JUDY (last name unknown)

Spatula, Water, and Other Needed Items Supplier -- THE MERC & JOE HOWLETT

All MUSICIANS who provided a day full of sweet sounds and donated extreme time, energy, and gear -- Jarrad Menard, Kevin Dooley & Friends, The Farmergirlz, Steve Hull, David Linquist, Laura Cascardi, Howlett's Gulch, Richard & JaVayne Jenkins, Chris Sheldon & Friends, Joshua Tree, Bill Brotherton & Friends, Folk Yeah!, Swamp Koolers, and Catapult Blues Band!!!

ALL SOUND TECHIES, without whom NONE of this awesome music would have occurred (in torrential downpours to boot!) -- Michael Brotherton, "Up-At-The-Crack-O'Dawn" Bill Brotherton, Rick "Rock" Davis, Richard Jenkins, Gary Dunn, Glenn Short, Tom Demask, Blake Wilson, and MOST ESPECIALLY Bill Mahon, Glenn Short, and Tom Williams for cleaning up the stage at the ungodly party hour of 1 a.m.!!! Many of the sound techies throughout the day continued to help after their "shift" was over (Richard Jenkins) and many stepped up to help out even though they didn't have a shift (Gary Dunn, Michael Brotherton). ALL OF YOUR EXTRA EFFORTS AND HARD WORK WITH SOUND ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED and literally MADE OUR DAY!!!

Master of Kid Games & Woodchopping -- DAVID MANS

Pie & Cake Master -- STEPHANIE CARLSON

Town Photo Guy -- JIM MARTELLA

Megaphone Hunter -- JENNY WILSON

Raffle Booth Volunteer from California -- ERIC CARLSON

Head of Big Park Food -- PAUL MIDKIFF

Creators of Tees -- BETH & MICHAEL BROTHERTON and our beloved volunteer mayor, KEN LENARCIC

All the FOOD BOOTH WORKERS, RAFFLE DONATORS, SET-UP & CLEAN-UP HELPERS

Walking Entertainment -- JEN LUCAS

LEFT HAND FIRE DEPARTMENT

All the PATRONS OF THE EVENT for spending hard-earned money and supporting our cause

and most importantly...

Group Whose Ongoing Behind-The-Scenes commUNITY Service We So Greatly Appreciate -- JVFD & EMS!!!

Hi to Jamestown and thanks for another memorable 4th of July. We travel every year all the way from the other side of the Rockies to our favorite Independence day in America. We were surprised and impressed with the wedding as well, well done.

The only reason we felt the need to locate this on line forum, was the great disappointment we discovered when there was NO DJ CHAD ZYGOAT! Why would we come all the way here anymore when the firework display was accompianied by nothing but silence? We drive I70 every July looking forward to his talented composing and execution, especially when corresponding to the visual magnificense of the firework display. We hope that he will be back next year. Please tell him that his fans were disappointed. Maybe next year we'll just stay home and watch silent fireworks on tv.

Hope not, and thanks again for a wonderful holiday.

Good Morning Jimtowners!
Come down to the Cherry Creek Arts Festival today and see my band Pick-Up Sticks Marimba playing on the Janus Main Stage from 12Noon-1:30PM!
The Main Stage is across the street (to the North) of Sacks Fifth Avenue in the Cherry Creek Mall in Denver.
Bring your dancin' shoes!

Jimtown sure knows how to throw a party. Thanks to everyone, particularly Laura Williams for all her efforts, for making the first of many 4th of July's a great and memorable one. What a great day/night!

Would anybody happen to be coming DOWN from Bar-K who could bring my babysitter, Isabel Dow to Jamestown? My car's on the fritz and I can't transport. Please call (3o3) 545-55o2 if you can help! Thanks!

A shout out for the 4th! A bunch of stuff is already set up and the park is looking good. I wanted to encourage a turn out for the WOOD SPLITTING CONTEST! The wood is cut and piled and ready to go. There will be a prize, once again, of a load of Oak Blocks! So please come by and give it a try. Bring shoes and gloves, 4:30 or so. This is always so much more fun when I get motivated folks out there.

Also, I could really use help with THE KID GAMES. This is always a crazy and hectic event. They're right after the wedding and desert buffet. Any volunteers to come by my house and help blow up water balloons in the morning? Come on by.

Have a safe and wonderful 4th of July!

Grapevine Fireworks

Free microsuede sleeper couch - erika@fullsignal.net

Reminder: The Jamestown Post Office will close at noon on Friday,July 3rd.
Mail will be collected at noon..... so if you want to send back a Netflix or mail a package please keep that in mind.
Post Office will reopen on Monday, July 6th.
Have a happy and safe 4th!

Oak - do you you suppose it was the newspaper delivery person?

Found in the town hall after the Commissioners meeting Monday night--one pair of reading glasses, red tint. In the town office (if you can read this :)

scary world anymore.....jm

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hey, does anybody know who came up to our house at 4 in the morning last night and shone headlights for 5 minutes, walked around, and then left with no message. i think it was a man; he didn't respond to my calls. help? oak

sign up at the merc slacking right now. only lookin for a couple of hours.

David, yes indeedee. I can help round up some rounds.

Thanks David re the treehouse. It's really my responsibility. I'm probably going to be running around collecting wood for the woodsplitting (hint, hint, you wanna help?), tent setup, etc. I'll try and collect it then. I would welcome a hand. David Mans.

Dee, found your treehouse!!!

It, or large parts of it, washed up behind our place (caboose house), Pat's and Russell's.

I'd be happy to help you haul it to your place.

Call me at threeothree, two4seven, nine8five2!

Pat, I think the water plant intake pipe is in the pile as well.

Colorado Shakespeare Festival - Thursday June 2nd.
Would anyone like to go to the opening night of Shakespeare's Hamlet?
I have one spare (free) ticket for someone who enjoys theater or wants to see their first performance.
Showtime is Thursday June 2 at 8pm.
Location is the beautiful outdoor theater on the CU Boulder Campus.

-- Charles Z (cz_rider1@yahoo.com or 303-545-6329)

Hi Jamestowners. We haven't met a whole lot of you yet, but we are the new tenants in the apartment in back of the Merc. We are going to have a little yard sale on the lawn next to the Merc on the 4th. Come by and meet us and check out our wares during the festivities. We'll set up around 8am. We have women's clothes, some cat stuff, some small animal stuff (for gerbils/mice/dwarf hamsters), a few electronic items, some jewelry, and other random items that still have to be gone through. Also thinking I might bake some cookies to sell :) Hope to see you there.

Early warning to plan to come out to the merc this Thursday!
The Stereofidelics are coming back, and they are a truly impressive duo. All the way from Ashville North Carolina, the fiddle player is one of the best out there nationally. Rainbow's making Steak dinner with potatoes and such (veg option of course). One of those lucky accidents when a great night falls into place on our town's best weekend kick-off. Come join in Jimtown 4th of July spirit!

Check out the 4-Sale QT for details on a great refrigerator for sale!

FOR RENT: 3 BR, 2 BA, plus office and deck, 8 acres, Lefthand Canyon (Nugget Hill), available
August 1, $1350. Pets OK, W/D, non-smoking, 4WD needed. Beautiful spot/views. 303-449-7145.

If anyone sees this and has any carpet cleaner for a Rug Doctor, please call Sterling ASAP!!!!

He's in the middle of the job & ran out.

3-449-249 two

Hello Jamestonians - As our holiday weekend is rapidly approaching I would like to ask that personell fire works be kept outside town limits it is quite bothersome for most pets, for those that are being walked or kept outside in the yard for the day or evening. I beleive the pets and owners alike would appreciate the thoughtfulness.

I would also like to suggest that everyone keep the pooches at home for the 4th they do not appreciate the holiday as we do. Leave a TV or Radio on for them and it will also be much cooler, the high for Sat could be around 90. I beleive the stress of finding a pet and the stress on the animal is not worth having them in the park for this particular day.

Always have your pets tagged, pets name, your name, and phone number.
We have already had some runners this year.

Thank You and look foward to seeing you all for the celebrations.

Thanks Laura!

Lila came home this morning. Thank you for keeping an eye out for her. Martine

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Final Wedding Update ... we think:

** We got pop up tents and cowboy boots -- thank you, thank you, thank you!

** Reminder about the Jack 'n Jill Shower at our house, Thursday the 2nd, 5:00 - 9:00pm. Come "Shower" with us! Your presence is the only present we want ... but the party is potluck-style, so please bring something delish to share!

** We are still hoping to borrow your potted plants and flowers to decorate the stage. Please bring them down anytime on Friday or Saturday morning before 11:30. Thanks!

** 12noon - The World's Goofiest Parade! Please join Joey in making this year's Marching Kazoo Band the biggest EVER!!!

** Wedding Ceremony at 12:45pm-ish! After the Parade, the lovely Katie Farmer will sing the National Anthem and then we'll get hitched!

** 1:15-ish - 2:15pm, we invite EVERYONE to join us for a Potluck Dessert Buffet -- cupcakes, cookie, fresh fruit, candy, anything you'd like to contribute!

Thanks for everyone's love and support! We are looking forward to creating beautiful memories with our commUNITY!!!

______________________________________________

We hope Lila and Komi have been found!
And, yes, Dr. Lisa is the best!!!

Lila ran away this morning when she became frightened by the fire crackers . She is a black and white Boarder Collie mix with black patches over her ears and eyes and a large black spot on her back. We live in the middle of Jamestown but she is familiar with all of the trails around this area. It is after dark now and we are very worried about her. If you spot her please call 303-541-9781.
Thank you, Bela, Martine and Emeshe

Eric Flink (et al):

BEST VET right here in Jimtown is Lisa Cass, who has office hours next to the Merc on Tuesdays (2-4 p.m., I think), as well as periodic wellness/vaccine clinics (next one is Saturday, July 11th @ 12-3 p.m.). She does house calls at extremely reasonable rates and comes highly recommended by me and several other pets around here. Call her at (3o3) 459-o313 or e-mail mountainvetATgmail.com

Hello everyone,

The TV has been taken.

Thanks,
Brad

I lost my Husky up near Eldora last week. Komi is black and white with blue eyes. She was last seen wearing a blue harness and collar with many tags. She is 55lbs with a scar on her nose. Her FAVORITE trail is Ward St. If you see her please call me at 720-272-5318.
THANKS VERY MUCH
Maggie

Brad,
I'd love to take the flat screen off your hands. Call me @303-449-2492

For Sale:

Yamaha receiver, cd player and dual casette.

All components work great, have all been kept clean and covered when not in use.

Sorry but I wasn't able to upload any photos. If you would like to see them I would be happy to send them to you.

I'm asking $200.00 obo

Thanks,
Brad
303-241-4633
bschall2004@yahoo.com

CALLING ALL JAMmers and MUSICIANS!!!

Musically speaking, WE NEED HELP this Saturday, July 4th!!

1. Assistants needed to SET UP sound equipment at 9:30 a.m. in Big Park. Tom will take charge, but we'll need more helpers, hopefully including band members AND people running sound throughout the day. We need to be finished with this task by 11:30 a.m. so everyone can make the parade.

2. Assistants needed at the end of the night to CLEAN UP the stage (around 11 p.m. to 12 a.m.). Members of the last band, Catapult, have thankfully volunteered, but we need JAMmers to oversee the handling of JAM equipment. Tom and I will not be available for this task.

Please call Laura @ (3o3) 545-55o2 if you can help OR just show up at the designated times!

MANY THANKS from JVFD/EMS!

Brad,
As much as I'd love a 36" flat screen I'm not hurting in the TV department and I'm sure someone could use it more than I. That said, should it go unclaimed in a couple of days I'll gladly take it off your hands and put a 27" non-flat screen up for grabs.

Hello everyone,

I have a 35" flat screen TV that I would like to give away for free. It works great and has a functioning remote also.

Give me a call or drop me an e-mail if interested.

Thanks,
Brad
303-241-4633
bschall2004@yahoo.com

Boulder County Commissioners will be in Jamestown tonight at 5:30 PM for hot dog roast and open forum in the town hall at 6:30 PM.

Hi JanR, We would love the ping pong table!!!! I don't know where you live though. Could you please call me at (303) 544-5838? (Tami, Laura and Leslie)

Hello Jamestown!
Tomorrow we will have eggs at 104 Main, from about 8:30 till 4:00 (unless sold out.)
We have pretty good amount of eggs this week, so stop by if you need any!

Anna and Jordie

Performance Artists

Performance Atists

Any recommendations for a local veterinarian??

wetsidedown at gmail dot com

WOW!

Edited by author 06-28-2009 01:42 PM
Thanks to all of the JAM group for and lovely evening last night!!! I heard everyone commenting what a wonderful time they were having. We were amazed again with the talent that is evident in just such a production. It was wonderful!
Stumpski

The Jury is in! The tremendous proliferation of info. on genetically modified organisms (GMO's) and their growing negative impact on conventional and organic crops around the world and ultimately we humans who consume them, not to mention the effects of the herbicides and pesticides on our own bodies and other amimal species, is an overwhelming concern to me. If the Commissioners serving in 2003 knew then what the impact of the GM crops would bring, I don't believe they would have approved growing GM corn in Boulder County. Other first-world countries have banned growing GMO's.

Monsanto and other corporations have successfully lobbied against regulations that would require labeling our food products to show GMO content. Show up tomorrow eve in Jamestown 5:30 for hot dogs; 6:30 for the Commissioner's public meeting) and simply stand up and say, "No, not any more GMO crops here in our County and phase out the leases on the GMO corn we already have." Please speak now or forever hold your peace.

Sally Hempy
303-459-0172

Thanks to all the talented bakers who donated desserts to last night's Java Jam.

We appreciate the hours of time and the costly ingredients required to make such heavenly creations!

Delicious!!

Lynnie Middledorf-Rum Cake

JaVayne Jenkins- Rhubarb Crunch

Dedra Smith Gluten Free Chocolate Cake

Juliette Bartsch-Stadium Bars

Beth Brotherton-Lemon Poppy Seed Cake

Betty Dowe-Tiramisus

Nancy Ermoian-Brownies

Sally Hempy-Ginger Cookies

Sandra Levitt- Lemon Chocolate Cake and Strawberry Sponge Cake

Stephanie-Gayle's mom- Banana Cakes

Gayle Towner- Blueberry Lemon Muffins

Colleen Williams- Cherry Crunch

Eve Sinclair Bread Pudding with Amaretto

Annie Short-Oatmeal Cookies

Dee Meyer-Fruit Tart

Nancy Dieterich-Chocolate Chip Cookies

Mary Brown- Blueberry Crunch with Ice Cream

Karen DeVincenzo- Almond Pear Pie

FREE ping pong table. Needs new home. Please come and get it. 303-449-9761. Also have 3 pieces of drywall, odd sizes I'll be taking to Resource2000 unless someone needs it for patching in 3/8" and 1/2". AND, thanks to Karen A. and everyone else who helped make last night so great.

And since Karen A. can't thank herself...

THANK YOU KAREN A. for all your hard work, delegation, organization, and vice presidentship!

Also to the clean-up crew who had the whole thing wrapped up earlier than midnight!

What a perfectly beautiful evening in so many ways!!! THANK YOU JAM!!!

And Beth Brotherton for our fabulous posters.

Thanks to everyone who made Java Jam-A-Palooza possible and an event we enjoy year after year; it really does take a village:

Kristi and Julie for organizing and heading up t-shirt and musicians.
Beth and JaVayne on heavenly desserts!
Deborah Haynes and Anne Gross for coordinating and installing the art show.
Richard Jenkins and Glenn Short for handling sound ALL DAY LONG.
Michael Brotherton for being at every meeting and being ready to help.
Kael Davis for handling the coffee and money.
The dessert table women and the terrific community bakers.
Nancy Farmer, event emcee.
And the set up crew: Anne and Buddy and their fabulous decorations, Sally(girl scout extraordinaire) and Harry Hempy, Rick for guarding the gear and our brand new stage tent, and all the other hands helping us put the park together: Josh, Bill M, Rob K, Mark M. and egad a few others I've likely forgotten.

Thank you Thank you to everyone--especially all the artists, writers and musicians who participated in our Celebration of the Arts!

And for those of you that missed the art show, we plan to have the Town Hall Open during the Pancake Breakfast on July 4th for a viewing.

Last, Congratulations to Contest Winners:

Visual Arts - Excellence Award to Emma Hardy
and Free Spirit Award to Anna Fike.

Performing Arts - Judges's Choice - Joanna Rotkin and Bree Rodgers Dance "Small Moment of Sky" and Honorable Mention to Buddy Kihm for his original song "Receiving the River."

Written Word - Judges Choice - Laura Marshall's poem "From Joy Harjo" and Honorable Mention to Helen Turner for poem "Under the Oak."

Special Enthusiasm Award to Chad Zygoat for enter all three categories.

SteveE, thank you. I'll give Appliance Master a ring.

Lulu, give me a call. I might have a tent that would be perfect at the park. David 459-0203

Howdy Folks!

We are still looking to borrow a few EZ Up tents for the 4th of July. Please help us out if you can.

And don't forget about ...
** Our Jack & Jill Shower and Potluck Dinner at our house on Thursday the 2nd from 5:00 'til 9:00pm!

** The Potluck Dessert Buffet at 1:15 immediately after our wedding ceremony in the Big Park on the 4th!

We hope to celebrate with you!!!

Noel, we used Bruce of Appliance Master--very satisfied with his work: 303-494-9147.

Hi All, I'm looking for an appliance repair company/contractor that's willing to drive up to Jamestown (actually up to Bramer Rd). Our GE refrigerator has stopped cooling and it's getting pretty swampy in there. Does anyone have any names or phone numbers on hand? I feel like I called everyone in Boulder. Licensed would be good, we're hoping to go through our home warranty. Thanks!

FYI Andy's tree house along with the 3 trees holding it up went down the stream sometime last night.

Hope to see everyone at JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA today!
5-10pm
Jamestown Town Park
(Town Hall, if there's rain).

Bring chairs and rain jackets, bug spray, and some cash
for HEAVENLY DESSERTS, ROSIE T-SHIRTS and CANVAS BAGS,
and some other surprises!

Schedule:
5-6pm - Art Opening, Music by Blake Wilson
6-7pm - Performing Arts Entries and Announcement of Entry Winners
7-10pm - Homegrown Mountain Music with Heavenly Desserts

Come Celebrate the Arts in Jamestown!

Edited by author 06-27-2009 06:31 AM
Good morning Jimtown!
It's not too late to get in on the Zimbabwean Music Festival!
This is day 3 and it's in full swing!
I'll be down at Central Park in Boulder again all day today running the sound for FREE music from 10 AM to 5:30 PM!
There's a marketplace of vendors with wonderful things like african baskets, Drums, Mbira, handcrafts, etc, etc.
There will also be yet another FULL night of music at the Boulder theater tonight starting at 7PM!
The last two days of this festival have been an amazing experience with people from all over the world coming together to make the Zimbabwean Music Festival happen!
You can check out the website at http://www.2009.zimfest.org.
I hope to see you at Central Park today...bring a picnic lunch (and an umbrella) and enjoy!!!

I'm sure I'm not the only one listening to the boulders tonight. Ya might want to keep an eye on your small pets and childeren.

Hey Ladies ~ I'm looking for a pair of Red Cowboy Boots, size 7 1/2 to 8 1/2. Please let me know if you've got ones I could borrow. Thanks!

Hey everyone,

Thank-you so very much for ALL of your efforts!!! We have found the Nevarre boy thanks to a few fabulous people. Thanks so much to Joy and Oak ...and especially Joy for going back for her better shoes and heading up after the boy....Thanks Joy!!!! You will never know how you have impacted our world!!

Also Thanks to Karie, who was apparently up hiking and noticed the boy and got the number off his tag and gave us a call,... and let us not forget Denise down at the Post office, who was so helpful in making calls to our house and other folks to get the message across!!

Thanks to everyone else for keeping your eyes open!!!

LOCALS HAVE NO POWER OVER WHETHER THE SHERRIFS OFFICE DECIDES TO TARGET HIGH TRAFFIC BIKE RIDES THEY ARE ENFORCING IN MANY OF THE MTN. COMM,

Hello All,
I am all set to have my windows ready for the 4th of July. David of Bluebird Windows will be here on Thursday, July 2. He said he has time if anyone else wants to have their windows washed that day. He may even give all a discount. Call for appt. 303-258-0808











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PSS...being that he is blind and deaf..who knows...he could have wandered down to the MERC for some cheese ...thanks again

Wendy/Tamira 8481
06-25-2009 02:34 AM MT(US)
 
PS..he is blind and mostly deaf... but he likes cheese a LOT...and his name is NEVARRE..... ok thanks again
  
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06-25-2009 02:33 AM MT(US)
 
Hey everyone,

Thanks so much for keeping an eye out for the beloved wolf. He should have a tag with a phone number...just in case and as a reminder...it is 459-0204. He is very sweet and gentle..but could be a little scared and therefore having a lot to say....please help us keep looking...thank-you all so much.
Wendy/Tamira 8479
06-25-2009 02:31 AM MT(US)

The missing wolf

This Thursday at the old Merc-
Please come on over for a hoe down. Mountain Standard Time will be a fun bluegrass show, and Rainbow's fixin Joey very favorite, FRIED shrimp dinner! (Cajun mashed pots, salad and more...)
Take advantage of having music and food available in a small unique town in the mountains.

To all our Bar-K and Jamestown friends and neighbors,

As alot of you may know, today was "Bike to Work" Day. We biked in this morning (to Boulder and Longmont) and biked back home this evening. We would like to send out hugs and thank-you's to the wonderful neighbors that gave us room to ride in the canyon today, especially while it was raining on our way up from Jamestown.

Pat and Dina Griffin

Hello!
For $3 a dozen, eggs will be at 104 Main Street top deck starting from about 8:30. Stop by if you need any!

Anna and Jordie

Blake,
I'd be willing to offer you a few insights and a lead or two. Feel free to call me at 303-459-0640 or email at nospam@ncre.biz .

If anyone knows why folks need to feel the need to do 3OH3 FouR5nine Zerosix (2X2) freezing point of water in Celsius please advise.

Friends and Neighbors:

Our lease is up on August 1st and we need a new place to live by that date. It's Jenny and I and 2 cats, Bruce and Yoshimi. Our requirements would be 2 bedrooms, preferably, with room for my music studio (i.e. finished basement or similar). Rent needs to be $1400 or under. Any leads are appreciated. We dig it here and we aren't moving out of town, but can't afford the rent increase at our present house. Thanks folks. Blake and Jenny three oh three 442 two 5 two two.

For your musical pleasure...

HOWLETT'S GULCH will be playing again at the Millsite in Ward THIS Friday, June 26th starting at 7 p.m.!

This will be a trio featuring Tommy Williams on guitar, GARY DUNN ON BASS!!! (Seriously, OMG!) and the infamous Squid on boom-booms.

Hope to see you there for another early hour gig with a most amazing lineup! Prepare to shake it like Dancy Farmer!

Tug is a ten-year-old purebred Australian Shepherd whom I have had since he was a puppy. He is very smart, lovable and playful and has a strong herding instinct. Because I recently had a child and am a single mom, I can no longer give Tug the attention and exercise he needs to stay happy and healthy. Tug is a pretty good listener and well-behaved most of the time; he is very responsive to training. Tug can be very mellow; he easily adapts to his surroundings. But he also has a lot of energy. If you or someone you know can make Tug happy please contact me: Snowden Campbell, (303) 717-2036 (located in south Longmont).

Adopt Me, Please

We are posting the following add for our good friends Snowden & Tug. We've known Tug (aka Monkey-doodle boy) since he was a puppy and he is a wonderful spirit! He's lovable & super sweet--he just plain needs more room to play & run.
We would be thrilled if he could live up here in the Jamestown area so we could see him all the time. If our animal situation were different, we'd take him in a heartbeat--he's a real character.

If you think you might like to have this guy as your companion--call Snowden--she'll give you the scoop :)

I think it has a lot to do with budget shortfalls. I'm told police everywhere are out giving as many tickets as possible to try to make up the difference.

Moral of Sheriff Pelle story: Don't bring on the heat.

Here's a small part of how Sheriff Pelle responded (today) to the letter sent in by the cyclist who was ticketed in Jamestown (actually, yesterday, I guess) -- his response was also in a letter to the editor of the Daily Camera:

"The stop sign in Jamestown, right in front of the local eatery and gathering places, is meant to allow traffic coming down the steep hill the right away and provides for pedestrian safety. The locals are fed up with people blowing through it and have asked us to help do something about it."

The sheriff seems to need a lesson in geography. Giving tickets to cyclists at that stop sign, where they are coming uphill at maybe 10-15 mph, doesn't enhance anyone's safety -- hope it wasn't "the locals" who asked for this kind of enforcement. If the sheriff brought a speed gun and clocked cyclists and drivers coming downhill at speeds over 25 mph, that would enhance pedestrian safety in town.

Apparently, Dave, cyclist were not the only ones being stopped. A friend received a ticket in James Canyon on Saturday for exceeding the 30mph speed limit, and last night the Sherriff was stationed above Jamestown on Overland spotting cars _going uphill_. It seems as if all the complaining about traffic in the canyon means there'll be ticketing all around this summer.

An editorial from the Daily Camera today:

Today, June 20, I was one of apparently many people ticketed by the Boulder County Sheriff’s Department while riding my bike through Jamestown. My crime? I failed to put my foot down and come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Instead, I slowed to a crawl, looked to see if anyone was coming from the left side (no one was) and proceeded when I determined it was safe. Apparently, the failure to actually put a foot down makes me a hazard to society. How frustrating when I’m one of the cyclists who actually supports stronger enforcement of single-file riding on winding roads when there is no wide shoulder or bike lane, and who actually supports policing of downhill speeding cyclists. I strive to be safe, and a $111 ticket — no warning — is my reward. Furthermore, the officers came today to Jamestown with the goal of harassing cyclists. There were 4-5 policy officers standing about 20 feet back from the stop sign, just pulling us over one by one, giving no one any warnings. No wonder the Boulder County Sheriff’s Department has such a bad relationship with the cycling community. Thanks a lot, guys.

Jessica Yates

Boulder

By self admission, she didn't come to a complete stop, think we use to call it a Kalifornia stop. In her defense, not as egregious as the idiots that blow through the stop sign at Olde Stage and Lee Hill at full speed passing cars on either the right or left with no regard to oncoming traffic.

Call me a cynic, but I think this has more to do with the Commissioners Hot Dog Get together than anything else. They can squash this issue and talk about important things like killer sugar beets and development transfer rights and the need to control trash removal prices.

Thank You to the Howlett Gulch Restoration Team that hiked up to the Swing Road to plant 300 shrubs on the morning of June 12, 2009 to help stabilize the upper gulch. Thank you Boulder Ranger District employees Eric Schroeder, Brian, and Kim. Thank you Buddy Kihm and Mark Matzuk. Thank you Geneva Mixon, Lefthand Watershed Oversight Group. Thank you Matt Palama, VISTA volunteer. Thank you Mark Williams for using your vacation time to help restore the watershed. Thank you community for pulling together to make it happen.

Colleen Williams
James Creek Watershed Initiative

HELP WANTED FOR SATURDAY'S JAVA JAM A PALOOZA!
We would love your help at Saturday's event. Whether you're a JAM member, community member, or are just interested in getting involved, we'd welcome your help! Here is the "behind the scenes" schedule:
1 pm Set up stage and BRAND NEW canaopy
2 pm Set up rest of event, including pop-up tents, tables, and decorations, Richard's sound workshop begins
6:30-7 Drop off homemade desserts (see Beth's post below)
10 pm Tear down and clean up

Meet us in the Town Square to help with set up. If you offered us your pop-up tent, please drop it off by 2 pm.

Thanks, and see you there! Questions? Email julie dot perry at jimtown dot org.

Thanks to all the Jamestown Elementary School families who weeded and spruced up the Roots and Shoots Garden. It looks beautiful. What a wonderful gift to our community. And thanks to all the community members who have come by and weeded in the past few weeks. It takes a village...

July 3rd Reminder
The Jamestown Post Office will close at noon and reopen Monday July 6.
Mail will be picked up early. Please plan accordingly.
Have a happy and safe 4th. Congrats Chris and Lulu!

Java Jam needs a few more Heavenly Desserts for this Saturday night's Java Jam. Please bring your favorite baked item to the dessert table in the Town Square between 6:30 and 7:30. Thanks!!

Thank you Tim for that nice comment and I'd like to add a special thank you to Ken, our mayor, for the endless hours (30-40+ hours per week) that he devotes to Jamestown. Ken writes the newsletter and I publish BTW :)

Many thanks to Mary Ellen (and Ken?) for publishing the Jimtowner and striving to keep us locally informed. Also, while I'm at it: many thanks to David M for making this QT available and also serving to keep us all informed. Many people, doing many things for this community that sometimes seem to go unnoted.

plastic kitty litter containers 4 grease storage drop by merc thx

Celebrate the Arts in Jamestown!

Hello again Jimtowners!
Along side the FREE concerts in Boulder's Central Park with the African arts marketplace (Thu-Fri-Sat from 10:30 AM through 5:30 PM) and the evening concerts at the Boulder Theater, there will also be four days of workshops in African music, singing, dance, marimba, drumming Mbira, etc...and it's not too late to sign up!
The Zimbabwean Music Festival is going to be fun for the whole family and it's taking place for the first time in Boulder...this week!
Check out the website at: http://www.2009.zimfest.org !!!

Jamestown Jimmy - June 22, 2009 - Third Quarter Newsletter
  
Fourth of July:
 
In conjunction with the 4th of July celebration this year will be the wedding of Chris Sheldon and Lulu Agolia.

• Pancake Breakfast - 7:30am-11:30am
• World's Goofiest Parade - 12:00 noon
• Wedding of Chris and Lulu - 12:45pm-1:15pm
• Lunch in the Park - 1:00pm-7:00pm
• Potluck Dessert Buffet - 1:15pm-2:15pm
• Kid Games - 2:00pm
• Town Photo - 3:00pm
• Pie/Cake Contest - 3:30pm
• Wood Splitting Contest - 4:30pm
• Fireworks - 9:30pm

Live Music All Day!! Here is the lineup:

Town Square (Morning)
8:30-9:00 Jarrad Menard
9:00-10:00 Kevin Dooley & Friends
10:00-10:30 Nancy Farmer
10:30-11:00 Steve Hull & Friends

Elysian Park (Afternoon & Evening)
12:45-1:15 WEDDING of Lulu & Chris
1:15-2:15 Tom, Squid, Gary & Joe Schiraldi
2:30-3:00 Richard Jenkins
3:30-4:30 Chris Sheldon & Friends
4:4505:15 Joshua Tree
5:30-6:15 Bill Brotherton & Friends
6:30-7:45 Folk Yeah!
8:00-9:30 Swamp Koolers
10-12 midnight Catapult

Boulder County Days!!!

Boulder County Commissioners will be visiting Jamestown on June 29th starting at 5:30 pm for hot dogs and fixings. Afterwards we will move to the Town Hall for a public discussion. All are welcome.

Town Hall Improvements:

Regrettably, our secondary request for grant funds to the State Historic Fund (SHF) was turned down. However, we hope that we can still get most of the project completed with funding that is already in place. As you read this, the Town Hall committee should be sifting through bids from general contractors for the job. A request to revise the current budget has been submitted to the SHF. Some of this still depends upon what the bids look like but the following segments of the project are prioritized and are expected to be funded.
• Structural repairs to the roof and walls
• Construction of 600 sqft addition
• New electrical service thru the addition
• Repair of windows
• Insulate ceiling in main hall
• Repair exterior stonework
• ADA ramps and upgrades

The radiant ceiling heat for the main hall has been determined to be too costly. Present propane heaters will be retained or upgraded. Added insulation, storm windows and entry through the addition should improve main hall heating. The County Historic Board has indicated that they would entertain an additional 50% grant request after Jan. 1 to do all the interior and exterior refinishing.

More Summer Events:
 
JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA
Saturday, June 27th
5-6 pm Art Opening in the Town Hall
Music by Blake Wilson
6-7 pm Performance Art Entries
Town Park 7-10 pm Home Grown Mountain Music and Heavenly Desserts
 
Garden/Art Walk
Aug 21 4-7pm
 
Next bi-monthly JAM meeting - Sunday, August 2nd 2pm @ Richard Jenkin's House
  
Board of Trustees: Meetings on the first Monday of every month at 7PM. The next scheduled Town Board meetings are July 6, August 3rd and September 7th.
Town Office Hours: M-TH, 8AM to 2:30 PM 303-449-1806 or townclerk@jimtown.org
Elysian Park Restoration Project:

Elysian Park: See Future Use Plan for a larger illustration in the Town Office files.

This project will enhance the soil cap on Elysian Park and enable us to improve the recreation facilities on the park in the future. The park was built on a fluorspar tailings pond which is contaminated with heavy metals, particularly lead. We plan to add up to 18 inches of clean soil to the cap. The project is a cooperative effort between the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, University of Colorado and the Town.

Walsh Engineering is nearing completion of the construction plan for the project and in the meantime the Town has posted an “Invitation to Bid” for potential soil vendors. We may need up to 14,000 cubic yards of soil to complete this phase of the project. If all goes well, we will start stockpiling soil in the park in July. Removal of present recreation facilities will begin after July 4th.

We have attempted to minimize the impact of the project by reusing as much clean “native” park soil as possible. The completed project will also include enhanced drainage on the site. Over June and July the westernmost 4.5 acres of the park and the parking lot will be closed starting with the area near the slash pile. The slash pile is no longer available.

Timetable:
June 2009 Begin construction of silt fence (for soil storage) at east edge of the project site.

July 9, 2009 Soil bids due from potential vendors.

July 2009 Remove present recreation features from the site. These include the baseball backstop,volleyball court, pavilion, corral, etc. Those features that can be reused will be saved. Te present plan is to retain the restrooms. Not sure about the basketball court at this time.

July 2009 Finish silt fence and close park. Begin deliveries of soil. Fence off project area.

Aug/Sep 2009 Begin construction phase. This may take as little as 2-3 weeks.

October 2009 Revegetate the site. Revegetated areas will remain closed to public during 2010.

2010 The Town will be working on obtaining grants from Greater Outdoors Colorado for the purchase of new recreation features.

2011 Restoration of reusable features. Park reopens. Begin construction of new recreation facilities per the Elysian Park Future Use Plan. All government required plans, permits and applications are available for examination in the Town office during usual business hours.

Dang! I'm gonna miss Java Jam-a-Palooza this year!

I'm running sound for the Zimbabwean Music Festival afternoon concerts this weekend, and attending the evening concerts at the Boulder Theater (Thu-Fri-Sat).

I don't want to compete with Java Jam on Sat night, but if anyone wants to come see some FREE concerts in Boulder's Central Park (the grass area south of the Band Shell), then just show up Thu, Fri, and Sat.

African-style marimba bands from all over the country (and a few international acts) will be performing from 10:30 AM-5:30 PM all 3 days!
My band (Pick-Up Sticks Marimba) will be playing there at 12:40 PM on Thu.
There will be a vendors' marketplace of various African artisan goods and musical instruments too!

Bring a lunch and a blanket and enjoy!
And stop by the sound tent and say hi to me!

PS:
Richard J.
Sorry I can't be there this time.
I'd love to help out running sound for JAM events in the future!

Great to hear Brian! It's a real treat to see someone so enthusiastic about the potential and existing value of a forum like this. I think it's a pretty unique community experience that something like this can exist. Used to happen on the porches of local businesses exclusively, this can be a whole 'nother level of soapbox!

A little Jamestown QT History: I started this existing one after being turned on to it by Sal Devincenzo who started the Bar-K QT. We are certainly not "Masters" (well I guess I can't speak for Sal) but may be called "Administrators" if we need any title. We are very limited in what we can control on here and really only hold the ulitmate power on it, the ability to flip the switch and turn it off. Sometimes if feels like your "baby" and it's a little sad to see it get vicious or ugly, but you have to get over it; its up to those on it, not me, what they want to speak, spew, preach, dribble, shout, or otherwise.

I've been pleased with the discussion lately, the bike thing really hasn't gotten ugly. We really can talk like grownups from behind a screen. There's been a few really unfortunate things where I considered what tool to use: the carrot with pleas and cajoling, or the stick with "Okay kids, it might have to go away for a little while!?!" It's always such a relief that I really don't have to be that guy or even think about it.

If you've read this far, bless you, you must be a dedicated QT devotee. If you haven't screw you, it's your loss, you won't be entered in the $50,000 drawing. If you could use some movie money, send me your email. We'll hold the drawing by April 1, 2014. Love ya Jamestown.

THANKS QT !!

We had the same problem in Larimer County and were only able to find ammo at the gun show this weekend. They seemed to have plenty so you might check for the next gun show anywhere near. They also said Ace Hardware carries ammo.

Carolyn Blair
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QT SAVES THE DAY, AGAIN!! Delilah the prodigal pit bull is home safe and sound!!! Thanks to Jyoti [a avid qt reader]who saw our lost doggy post and helped get Delilah home to us !Thanks to all the QT readers and the site masters who make it all possible! The QTs are a very effective way to get out the word, and they serve our mountain community in so many ways! THANK YOU QTs !!

@ Dee Huntley:
In addition to Karen Z's reply, there's also the Mexican drug cartels to be supplied. See
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-drug-...n-american-bullets/
Ah well, at least we get a "well regulated Militia", right?

Hello JT
I will be holding sound workshop as we set up for Java Jam at 2PM Saturday 27th June. Anyone interested in learning a bit and helping with set up be at the town hall. We need bodies to get things to the town square and we need to get more people on board that know our sound system. I would really appreciate help from band members and musicians that will be playing at the event to help with set up and tear down as well. Thanks

Join us for
Java Jam-A-Palooza
a Celebration of the Arts in Jamestown!

Saturday, June 27th
5-6 - Art Opening in the Town Hall
Music by Blake Wilson

6-7 - Performance Art Entries
Including dance with Joanna Rotkin, music by Chad Zygoat, Juliette Bartsch, Anne Kosel and Buddy Kihm, and a one-act play by Blake Wilson.

Winners in all three categories will be announce directly following these performances.

7-10 - Our regular Acoustic Coffee House with Homegrown Mountain Music and Heavenly Desserts.

T-shirts and hoodies for sale!

There has been a rush on ammo and guns since the primaries - some were certain President Obama was going to take your gun. I love the free market - We somehow get what we ask for.

Happy Fathers Day Jamestown.

I'm trying to get in touch of Suzanne Marie.
Her home phone has been busy and I'm wondering if I have the wrong number or there is some other issue. Someone please get a message to Suzanne to call me if possible. 303-459-3359
Much Appreciated !

Is anyone else noticing the absence of ammo in the stores? We went to WalMart and Dick's Sporting Goods and they were both out of 30/30 rounds, and the shelves were practically empty of all other rounds. I just went on line to ammo.com and they don't seem to have any in stock either. I'm beginning to get a weird feeling about it. It's making me want to stock up if I find any, that's for sure. Where can I get ammo in Boulder County?

Here's that link that was posted on the Bar-K qt yesterday.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.d...7/REVIEWS/906179985

yeah, i'm on a rant! Don K! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT LINK yesterday to Rober Ebert's review on FOOD! I have forwarded the link to all my political activists in the valley as additional input in writing the Commissioners.

btw! Mark your calendar now for upcoming meetings in the Courthouse on the Round-Up Ready Sugarbeets POSAC (Parks and Open Space) meet July 23 at 6:30.
FAPC (Food and Agriculture Policy Comm.) meet July 30 at 5:30

Will do a post in the future as to when the Commissioners will be voting on this issue. (previously posted their emails)

Reminder:

Pet Wellness and Vaccine clinic today 12pm-3pm at my office just west of the Merc.

Hej-do (that's Swedish for hey y'all),

I, too, have no more problems with cyclists than I do with cars. Or people.

So either I have lots of problems with cyclists, cars and people, or I have few problems with cyclists, cars and people.

Factually speaking, I have an undisclosed amount of problems with cyclists, cars and people.

You funny David K!

Judy, sorry about your nightie ;-)

Perhaps if the driver had taken a breath and waited until it was safe to pass the cyclist, maybe your nightie would be free flowing...

And I'm guessing that there is a pretty good chance the driver's wide passing maneuver had nothing to do with the new 3 ft law, as most drivers seem to have always given wide berth to cyclists anywho.

Karen, Shouldn't the cyclist pay for her medical bills?

Have a nice day y'all

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Jyoti, I would be more than happy to give some time and energy to this bicycle issue. Please call and tell me what I can do. 303-818-8029. Also, Jamestownians are not alone. 630 KHOW has done a bicycle radio segment at least three times in the last ten days. That word "entitlement" keeps coming up from people in Denver, Aurora, ALL over in describing the cylists. Public opinion also seems to note that it's not the recreational cyclist that is the problem, it is the racers who seem to have the attitude. An acquaintance of mine is currently in the hospital and has been there for THREE WEEKS and has significant brain damage because she was run over by a bicyclist while she was WALKING with friends!!! Who pays for her medical bills which now must be over $100,000? It seems very clear to me that if bicycles are capable of this extent of damage, they MUST be required to have insurance and identification of some sort (license plates). I agree with whoever said forbid cycles in areas with no shoulder and single file OUTSIDE the white line where there is a shoulder. Registration fees can go towards building more and wider bike paths for them to use to eliminate this conflict. It has also been suggested that bikes should be "towed" or impounded after three offenses as deterent for bad behavior. If indeed as Sheriff Pelle said that bikes aren't going away, then clearly bike laws and future trails must be planned for and implemented to accommodate them SAFELY and to reduce or eliminate conflicts.

I have stayed out of the cycle discussion because I get along fine sharing the road with other cars, bicycles, pedestrians, animals and rocks. The cycling issue is way overblown.

But I will make one correction to Dave Toso's post on 6/17. Dave wrote, "If [cyclists] want the status of pedestrians, then they need to stay to the far right at all times in single file."

Actually, with pedestrian status, cyclists would have to ride on the LEFT shoulder, facing oncoming traffic. Uphill cars and downhill cyclists would be passing a couple feet from each other at a relative speed 70 to 90 mph.
Harry Hempy
303-459-0172

I'm interested too Jamestownanians....in fact last night coming home from work I got a scare...I won't be dramatic but just as I thought a guy coming down the canyon trying to get around a bicyclist crossed over into my lane making me veer to the right...had there been a cyclist on the shoulder he would've gotten hit and maybe me with the other guy coming down. It knotted my nightie a bit...but this is a classic of what can happen with this law. It makes me think twice about living in Jamestown anymore...JM

Dave, I'm really hoping this happens.

FYI... here's Wil's address if others want to write...
wil.alston@state.co.us

Here's what I wrote:

Wil,

I met you (and Gov. Ritter) outside Vic's Coffee Shop today and we briefly spoke about the "Bicycle Safety Bill". There
are many Jamestown residents (level-headed and reasonable) that would be interested to have an interview with the Governor regarding this bill. Would this be possible? Please let me know.

Thank you,

Jyoti Sharp
Jamestown

On Jun 19, 2009, at 4:54 AM, QT - DaveT wrote:

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I'm up for it.

I've just written to the Wil Alston (the Communications Officer), asking for a meeting Mr. Ritter. I'll let you know if anything comes of it. Dave, if it comes to pass I'll assume you want to be there. Any others?

On Jun 19, 2009, at 4:10 AM, QT - DaveT wrote:

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Jyoti,
Please ask the Governor's Communications Officer to ask the Governor to include in his next State of the State Address that this time has come to require a overhaul of the bicycling laws to include registration of all bicycles with an original purchase price of over $500 and requiring the same to display a license plate and be equipped with brake lights, turn signals, fenders and that the operators carry proof of insurance equal to that of motor vehicles.
OR
Banning all bicycles from mountain roads without dedicated cycling lanes.

And he did have to give you his card, its his job.

P.S. For what it's worth, the Governor's "Communication's Officer" made a point of giving me his card before I left. He didn't need to do that. I think we might have another avenue here if anyone's interested. I could even be persuaded to help in some way, even though I'd decided to give up.


On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:35 AM, QT - Jyoti wrote:

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I happened to run into Gov. Bill Ritter at Vic's this afternoon, and took the opportunity to express our unhappiness about the "Bicycle Safety Bill". He was receptive and more than willing to listen. His perception was that the point of the bill was "to improve the safety of cyclists, not impede motorists". He did seem more cued into cyclists issues... like "people throwing things from cars", and the recent threat to blockade the road for cyclists, than any of the issues we face driving the canyon daily. I told him that in our view the bill was one-sided, allowing more and more room for cyclists to take up the road, without the accountability of license plates to report bad behavior. Again, he was quite receptive (but then he's a politician). I told him there would likely be a rebuttal to the legislation, which he welcomed and encouraged. In a conversation with his "Communications Officer" I learned that the best way to effect change to the bill would be through our state legislator Claire Levy. I'd be most grateful to anyone that wants to take this on. In the meantime I'm collecting waves and smiles from bikers. It makes my drive so much more enjoyable.

On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:36 PM, QT - Rob G wrote:

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The lighting scared our lovable friendly white and brown pit bull Delilah and she took of running! If you have seen her, please call 303 459-0103...she has tags on with cell # 646 591-0405 . We are in Sky Ranch Estates , please call or leave a message if you have any leads! thanks

Don't forget! Tonight at the Merc the legendary Tommy Williams with his Fine Friends will rock you!
Come in first for dinner, we'll have something delicious.
Looks like summer in the mountains may have finally arrived, hooray.

Maggie speaks the truth, I saw 'em go!

Waterbed sheets are gone!

1994 Suburban for Sale

FOR SALE: 1994 GMC Suburban K2500 4WD $3500

In good condition with no major damage inside or out. A/C, CD changer, tow package, seats 9 adults, removable 3rd row seat, luggage rails, new tires ($600) installed October 2008 (40,000 more miles on the warranty!), new front and rear brake assemblies in 2008 (approx. $1000), massive full tune-up/overhaul in June, 2008 (over $1,000) before we drove it out here including new radiator, distributor, rotor, etc. I am the second owner; it was my dad's. This is a tough truck with lots of recent upkeep that will keep it on the road for many years. We just don't need it anymore. It's great for camping, hauling stuff or people, towing, etc. Currently parked in front of forty nine Mesa. Call Blake @ 303 four four two 2522. Thanks.

Well said Dave.....

I'm looking for garage door track - does anyone know of a supplier or source for track? (used is also fine) All of the local outfits claim that they are "service only" businesses and won't sell track. . .

Cyclists need to determine if they want to be treated as a vehicle or pedestrians -not the best of both worlds.

If they want the same status of vehicles then they should be required to:
1. Obey all stop signs,
2. Have their cycles equipped with brake lights, fenders, turn signals,
3. Display a license plate,
4. Carry registration, proof of insurance and a valid driver's license (with a bicycle endorsement) while operating the cycle on public roads

If they want the status of pedestrians, then they need to stay to the far right at all times in single file.

Since it will take years to sort all that out I feel the time has come for the County Commissioners to ban cyclists from mountain roads that are not equipped with standard bike lanes on each side.

Pet Vaccine and Wellness Clinic

When: This Saturday June 20th 12pm-3pm
Where: My office next to the Merc
Who: Healthy pets needing vaccines, deworming, heartworm testing and preventative care

If you miss this one, the next one is scheduled for Saturday July 11th.
Questions- drop me an email at mountainvetAT gmail.com or call 3o3-718-2419

INVITATION TO BID
Town of Jamestown, Colorado

Sealed bids will be received by the Town of Jamestown hereinafter referred to as the Town, at the Town office, 118 Main Street, Jamestown, Colorado, 80455 until 2PM, MDST on Thursday, July 9, 2009 for the purchase of up to 7000 Cubic Yards of Fill Dirt and up to 3000 Cubic Yards Topsoil for use in the restoration of the soil cap in Jamestown's Elysian Park.

Bids will be received from qualified vendors for materials meeting the requirements of the Town's Purchase Specification Document:

1. Hard copies of the Purchase Specification Document and bid sheet may be obtained at the Office of the Town Clerk during the hours of 9AM and 2:30 PM Monday through Thursday at 118 Main Street, Jamestown; or you may obtain an electronic version by emailing a request to byrneslen@hotmail.com.

2. Bids for materials shall be FOB DELIVERED, with the vendor responsible for arranging and
       scheduling deliveries in accordance with the Town's specifications.

3. Bidders shall separate the cost of materials and transportation in accordance with the bid
       sheet.

4. The successful bidder (vendor) shall be responsible for compliance with all terms of the
        Purchase Specification Document by reference.

5. Other:
• When a bidder submits a bid, that bid shall include a schedule of subcontractors which shall identify each element of the work to be subcontracted.
• Each bid shall include an approximate timeline for commencement and completion of deliveries for the maximum quantities listed above.
• If a bidder has compliant material available but in a lesser quantity the bidder may offer that lesser quantity for consideration of purchase.
• The Town reserved the right to award the purchase agreement by segment(s), to split purchases between two or more vendors, to reject any or all bids, and to waive any informalities and irregularities therein.
• The Town assumes no responsibility for payment of any expenses incurred by any respondent to this invitation to bid.
• Notification of acceptance of bids for conforming products will be made during the week of July 13th.
• Bidders are hereby notified they are bidding on a project that received funding from the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment and all applicable contract rules of these agencies will be required of subcontractors and vendors.
• Pursuant to 40CFR, Section 33.301, The Town of Jamestown is committed to meeting applicable requirements concerning the use of disadvantaged business enterprises, small, minority and woman owned businesses. Eligible disadvantaged businesses are encouraged to bid on this contract.
• The Town of Jamestown is an equal opportunity employer.

Published in the Boulder Daily Camera Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Maybe the new bicycle law should include an exemption with regards to narrow mountain roads and to include the single file law. This is getting out of hand and someone will get injured.

I saw that Blake. The one thing that I am tempted to do is create a bumper sticker or sign that encourages sharing the road & better behavior on both sides. As I grip the wheel and try to pass cyclists as safely as possible, I don't like the feeling that they could be looking at me as an enemy.

Tempers and road rage are more dangerous than this new law in my opinion. I think it is time to try to calm down both sides with some levity and humor. Maybe we could design a roadside sign that gets this message across. Any ideas out there?

The plot sickens...

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/jun/1...de-sunrise-century/

Edited by author 06-17-2009 08:15 AM
Yours for the asking - Green California king size waterbed sheets (flat and fitted, not attached)in great shape. 303 444-6979

Please join us for Drama Club's FINAL PERFORMANCE of "ASSIGNMENT: EARTH! How We Can Save The Planet" THIS SATURDAY, June 20th @ 11 a.m. at the Boulder Public Library free of charge!!!

It sure would be great to have a lot of our commUNITY support as we perform in a REAL theater for the general public! Please spread the word and we hope to see you there!

There are fireworks this year (9:30 p.m.), but they are not part of the volunteer sign-up sheet that is posted at the Merc.

Come Celebrate the Arts in Jamestown!

Are there fireworks as well this year?

Edited by author 06-16-2009 06:54 PM
The JULY 4th VOLUNTEER SIGN-UP SHEET is now posted in the Merc!

Show your commUNITY spirit and join the immense fun of volunteering for the set-up party on July 3rd, festivities on the 4th including pancake breakfast, sales booth (raffle & tees), The World's Goofiest Parade, food in Big Park, announcer, kid games, pie & cake contest, woodsplitting contest, and clean-up party on July 5th!

All proceeds benefit our highly valued Jamestown Volunteer Fire Department and Emergency Medical Service -- THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!

Hayden and Henry seemed to have lost a small black walkie-talkie just before this last rain storm. It would be between the Merc-along lower main-or down cemetary road to the lower end of the park. If anyone picked it up can you call David or Emma 3/447-8222. Thanks

Rainbow alert!

On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:29 PM, QT - Laura Williams wrote:

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CALLING ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, ARTISTS, & RAFFLE GIVERS EXTRAORDINAIRES!

It's that time of year again!!
July 4th is just around the corner bringing with it our annual Jamestown 4th of July Pancake Breakfast and day long celebration benefiting the JVFD/EMS.

One of the highlights of our celebration is the all day Raffle. Every year we have wonderful, exciting prizes to give away in the raffle and that could not happen without the generous contributions of our surrounding local businesses and artists.

If you, or someone you know, would like to give to this years raffle please contact me at 3o3-449-1129 or email: babyrosegrl@yahoo.com

Thanks and hope to see you all there!!!

Is anybody coming DOWN from Bar-K around 4 p.m. or so who could give Tommy a ride to Jamestown? Please call (3o3) 545-55o2 if this might be possible. Thanks!

Stone FREE! King size bed, includes mattress, box springs, frames, and headboard. Aged, but not funky and still quite serviceable. The bed and I are parting company by cleanup day (this weekend), one way or another. If you can use it, give me a call at Bark exchange x.3384, or Seven 2 oh 6 3 5 oh seven seven 3.

Hello everyone!
Just a reminder- eggs will be in Jamestown on TUESDAY not Monday!
And next week they will be sold on Thursday. (Schedule is off because of a family vacation, which means we wont be able to sell any during the week).
Also, there has been some confusion about egg pricing, but they are still $3 a dozen :)

Letter to Boulder County Commissioners about NOT Growing GMO's in Boulder County

The following is a letter Sally and wrote to the Boulder County Commissioners. This summer they will decide on allowing genetically modified, Round-Up Ready sugar beets to be grown in Boulder County. Please let the commisioners know your position on GMO's.

You can email them at:
   Will Toor: wtoor@bouldercounty.org
   Ben Perlman: bperlman@bouldercounty.org
   Cindy Domenico: cdomenico@bouldercounty.org

Thanks, Harry and Sally

____________________________


Boulder County Commissioners
PO Box 471
Boulder, Colorado 80306

June 12, 2009

Dear Boulder County Commissioners:

We have researched Round-Up Ready GMO’s in response to a joint POSAC and Food and Agriculture Policy Advisory Subcommittee hearing on growing Round-Up Ready sugar beets on Boulder County Open Space on May 28, 2009.

The 2007 film, “The World According to Monsanto” and the position paper on Genetically Modified Foods, approved by the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) on May 8, 2009, are excellent sources of information. They are attached for your consideration.

Whereas:

1. AAEM concludes that “GM foods pose a serious health risk in the areas of toxicology, allergy and immune function, reproductive health, and metabolic, physiologic and genetic health” and calls for an immediate moratorium on genetically modified foods.
2. Round-Up Ready farming is not sustainable because the transmission of the Round-Up resistant transgene to weed species (not to mention contamination of the world’s conventional food sources) is inevitable over time. When the weeds become Round-Up Ready, Round-Up will no longer be effective. These weeds can only be eliminated by using extremely toxic herbicides. (this is already happening) Monsanto recommends use of 2,4-D, a derivative of Agent Orange, to kill Round-Up resistant plants.
3. First-world countries, including all of Europe, China, Russia, and Australia have banned Round-Up Ready agriculture. Only the United States, and poorer countries in Asia and the Western hemisphere allow use of genetically modified, Round-Up resistant seeds.

We call on the County Commissioners to:

1. Put an immediate moratorium on Round-Up Ready agriculture in Boulder County.
2. Develop a policy on sustainable agriculture and food safety, to be added to the Sustainability Element of the Boulder County Comprehensive Plan.

Sincerely,

Harry and Sally Hempy
PO Box 264
Jamestown, CO 80455

harryhempy@fullsignal.net
303-459-0172

Does anyone have a worn out (or not so) picnic table they want to get rid of/sell for cheap? Please contact me at jon@jimtown.org

The pit toilets in the big park will be off limits for the next week. They will be pumped on Monday, June 22nd in preparation for the 4th of July.

Thanks!

Does anybody know how long the ecocycle truck will e hanging out at the PO? Thanks!

Anybody claim those undies yet? (What a hoot!) :-0

Oh. duh

I think it's the slash pile burn in the lower park

Anyone know what the smoke in the air is from?

JULY 4TH WEDDING UPDATE:

*** We look forward to capitalizing on the fact friends and family can all be together and everyone can finally get to know one another! We know that things on the 4th will be mildly chaotic, so we thought a potluck party at our house on Thursday, July 2nd would be another great way for folks to meet and celebrate!

We figured a co-ed Jack 'n Jill Shower would be the funnest way to pull that off!

"Showering Us with Love" is really all we want. Your presence will be the best present ever ... and some food for the potluck!

Thursday, July 2nd ~ 5:00pm - 9:00pm
Our House ~ 233 Ridge Road, Bar-K


*** We are still in need of a few EZ Up Tents for the wedding on Saturday, July 4th. If you have one that we could borrow please talk to us, Gayle Towner or Sarah Milligan (both of whom, along with Laura Williams, are doing a fabulous job coordinating this year's celebration. Thanks for all your hard work Ladies!).

In addition, we are asking to borrow your potted flowers and plants to decorate the stage. We will be placing straw bales around the perimeter and decorating the entire bandshell.


*** Just a reminder about the wedding part of the July 4th timeline ~
11:40 Joey invites everyone to join him at the post office for Kazoo Marching Band practice. This year the marching will be leading the parade. We are hoping to make this the largest Kazoo Marching Band in the World! Please don't miss this opportunity to make history!

12noon - 12:30pm The World's Goofiest Parade

12:40pm Katie Farmer sings the National Anthem

12:45 - 1:10pm Our Wedding Ceremony!
We will have about 70 chairs set up in front of the bandshell for the ceremony. The first few rows will be reserved for family, but the rest are for anyone in attendance. After the ceremony, if you have a free hand, could you please carry a chair to the tent? Thanks!

1:15 - 2:15pm We invite EVERYONE to join us for wedding cake and a potluck dessert buffet in our big tent. Please bring potluck contributions (including a serving utensil if you have one you can spare) to the tent anytime after 11:00am on the 4th. This contribution could be anything sweet from cookies to pies to fresh fruit to non-melting candy! Please label your plate or bowl. If you cannot pick it up by the end of the day, we will personally deliver it back to you the following week. Thank you!!!


We look forward to celebrating with everyone! Thanks for the love!!!

SOMEONE'S UNDERWEAR
I'm laughing, but I suppose whoever lost at least three pairs of undershorts on the road might want them. They are between the Firehall in Jtown and Elliott's Pitch on the center line at regular intervals. Happy hunting.

FINAL REMINDER!
REGISTRATION FORMS FOR JAVA-JAM-A-PALOOZA
MUST BE RECIEVED BY TOMORROW
SATURDAY, JUNE 13TH

See Jamestown P.O. for forms and details.

1987 Toyota Tercel 4WD Manual $800 303-444-5053

Thanks for your post Tara..though I don't think I know you. I live in the Bar K and I too both ride and drive the canyon. I will always ride as far to the right as I can.. and I appreciate the 'space' given by drivers as we all negotiate curves, rocks, and sometimes a lot of sand. Love to share.

MORATORIUM on Genetically Modified Foods

Did you know that genetically modified, Round-Up Ready *corn* is already being farmed on taxpayer-owned, Boulder County Open Space? Now the Commissioners are being asked to allow GM, Round-Up Ready *sugar beets* on Boulder County Open Space.

Jamestown will treat the Boulder County Commissioners to hot dogs and hot topics (like GM farming) on Monday, June 29.

Before the 29th, please read:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18080.cfm

Here is an excerpt from the article:

The American Academy Of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) released its position paper May 19, 2009 on Genetically Modified foods stating that "GM foods pose a serious health risk" and calling for a moratorium on GM foods. Citing several animal studies, the AAEM concludes "there is more than a casual association between GM foods and adverse health effects" and that "GM foods pose a serious health risk in the areas of toxicology, allergy and immune function, reproductive health, and metabolic, physiologic and genetic health."

The AAEM calls for:

A moratorium on GM food, implementation of immediate long term safety testing and labeling of GM food.

Physicians to educate their patients, the medical community and the public to avoid GM foods.

Physicians to consider the role of GM foods in their patients' disease processes.

More independent long term scientific studies to begin gathering data to investigate the role of GM foods on human health.

COME ON DOWN, IT'S THURSDAY IN JIMTOWN!
TONIGHT FAST EDDY'S STRING BAND IS ROCKING AND RAINBOW'S PREPARING A HAWAIIAN PORK BBQ DINNER. IT'S FUN.

That link was probably specfic to my email- I was hoping everyone in town could use it to make a stink about Xcel's reliability!

Talked to Xcel - the survey is a random one and they are perplexed about the response i received when clicking the link, since i was not sent a survey, and Xcel is "looking in to it".

i clicked on the link for Xcel and got a message that said a questionnaire had already been filled out for my e-mail address. very interesting! I haven't filled out anything for Xcel.

Hi,
Looking for 1 ticket to see Phish at Red Rocks any night. Please call me at three oh three 8 three four 5 8 9 0. I will pay a finder fee over the face value but refuse to pay the scalpers. Thanks
Stumpski

ONLY 3 MORE DAYS...
TO GET YOUR JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA ENTRIES IN!!!

CATEGORIES:
Performing Arts (skits, song, dance, monologue etc)
Visual Arts (all media)
Written Word (poetry & flash fiction)

ALL entries must be RECEIVED by June 13th. Late entries will not
be considered for $50 cash prize (each category).

Pick up guidelines and entry form at the Jamestown Post Office.

Then join us for a CELEBRATION OF THE ARTS IN JAMESTOWN
on Saturday, June 27th from 4:00 - 10:00pm in the Town Park
to include Art Show, Performances, Spoken Word, Food for Sale,
and our regular JAVA JAM Music Set and Heavenly Desserts!

Questions? Jam_news@hotmail.com

Sponsored by JAM

I was in Mexico during the power outage, but haven't appreciated the tree butchers they sent to my house. Thanks for the link.

On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:44 PM, QT - Beth & Michael Brotherton wrote:
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Did anyone else receive an email from Xcel asking us to rate their service? This is a link to the survey-not sure it will work for anyone??

http://www.questionspace.net/cgi-bin/ssweb...XcelVOC2009+347O22I

I really enjoyed giving them a piece of my mind about all the power outages in April. I suggested a rebate might be in order to compensate for all the aggravation! Thought someone else might enjoy a little venting too!

Thank you Red Truck!

I had a really nice experience this morning on my way to work. As I was riding my bike up Olde Stage Road - believe it or not, but on the outside of the white line - a red pick up truck came up behind me. There were also 3 cars coming over the top. For some reason it never seems to fail that at the normal speed of travel we would all 3 pass each other at the same time. Although a bit uncomfortable for me as the small cyclist, this would have been fine. However, the kind driver of the red pick up slowed down and waited a few seconds for the 3 cars to pass in the other direction before passing me.

As someone who both drives and tries to cycle the canyon, I am very aware of the frustrations on both sides of this issue.

Thank you to the driver of the red truck for your act of kindness! You made my whole day!!

I promise to always ride safely and as far to the right as possible.

Tara

Daily Camera: Bicycles-1, Automobiles-0

Restoration Volunteers Needed Immediately

This Friday, June 12, 2009, we will be working with a small team of Forest Service folks in the upper reaches of Howlette Gulch to further stabilize the newly restored area with plantings of bushes. This area was the source of the mudflow through Jamestown. We need a few local volunteers to help with the plantings during the morning hours 8:30 AM till noon. Please contact Colleen Williams, James Creek Watershed Initiative, at 303-449-2621 ASAP. Help to make positive changes within your community!

ONLY 4 MORE DAYS...
TO GET YOUR JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA ENTRIES IN!!!

Especially wanted: Entries in Performing and Visual Arts
$50 CASH PRIZE in each category.

CATEGORIES:
Performing Arts (skits, song, dance, monologue etc)
Visual Arts (all media)
Written Word (poetry & flash fiction)

ALL entries must be RECEIVED by June 13th. Late entries will not be considered for $50 cash prize (each category).

Pick up guidelines and entry form at the Jamestown Post Office.

Then join us for a CELEBRATION OF THE ARTS IN JAMESTOWN
on Saturday, June 27th from 4:00 - 10:00pm in the Town Park
to include Art Show, Performances, Spoken Word, Food for Sale,
and our regular JAVA JAM Music Set and Heavenly Desserts!

Questions? Jam_news@hotmail.com

Sponsored by JAM

I am looking for a jeweler who would like a small job (assembling 25-50 pieces of jewelry). I make energized jewelry with frequencies for health and well-being, and have run out of stock. The pieces are very simple to make. I want about two dozen of each of two kinds of pieces made. One is a ring sized charm and the other is a necklace with Italian glass beads. I have most of the materials and will get the rest when I have someone to make them. If you are interested, or know someone who is, please post a response or email me at miles.nichols@gmail.com for more details. Thank you!

ATTENTION ALL 'KINIKINIK EGG' CUSTUMERS:
Next week eggs will be sold on TUESDAY the 16th and the following week they will be sold on THURSDAY the 26th!!
We will be out of state the 16th-25th so please plan accordingly!
PS- Eggs are still $3.00 a dozen, and $1.50 a half dozen :)

I love my dentist- Dr. Higgins at pearl street dental. They have all the great toys- laser bacteria reduction before cleaning, single tooth anesthesia (no drooling :-) http://www.pearlstreetdental.com

we have been with our dentist, Dr Steven Koral, for 18 years- he is at broadway and pearl. call to see it he is taking new patients.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, QT - Tony <
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Can anybody suggest a good dentist for regular checkups and cleanings? It looks like my insurance only pays for dentists in Boulder, so unfortunately no mountain dentists. Your help is greatly appreciated.

-Tony

ONLY 5 MORE DAYS...
TO GET YOUR JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA ENTRIES IN!!!

CATEGORIES:
Performing Arts (skits, song, dance, monologue etc)
Visual Arts (all media)
Written Word (poetry & flash fiction)

ALL entries must be RECEIVED by June 13th. Late entries will not be considered for $50 cash prize (each category).

Pick up guidelines and entry form at the Jamestown Post Office.

Then join us for a CELEBRATION OF THE ARTS IN JAMESTOWN
on Saturday, June 27th from 4:00 - 10:00pm in the Town Park
to include Art Show, Performances, Spoken Word, Food for Sale,
and our regular JAVA JAM Music Set and Heavenly Desserts!

Questions? Jam_news@hotmail.com

Sponsored by JAM

George at work in Alaska

Our good friend Tom Fedora (from Nashville, plays a great guitar...),his wife and his mother are looking to rent a house for a week in July or August in the Jamestown area. If anyone is going on vacation or is otherwise interested please call me at (303)449-9761. Thanks.

hi all! i was wondering of anyone has suzette & marshal's number.... i have a request ;) er, a second one...

Howdy, Neighbors,

Does anyone have an old disc-man (portable CD player with headphones) that they no longer want that I could possibly purchase? I have a professional need for one.

Thank you,

Annamaria B.
three-o-three - eight-one-eight - three-o-two-nine

Good Morning Jamestownians,

This Sat. we will be burning the slash pile there is some green wood in there and it might be a little smoky until the pile gets hot. This area will be closed after this burn and will not take any more debris for the capping project will be starting up sometime after the 4th of July.

The area will remain open for the rest of the week until Friday evening and we will not be able to take any slash on Sataurday morning.

Thank you all for your continued support.

Windows XP Compaq Presario SR1550NX. 2GHz64 bit CPU, 512MB RAM, 150 GB HD, memory card reader (supports common camera memory chips), DVD, USB2.0, integrated display & ethernet. HP PSC 500 printer/scanner/copier. $75 total for both items, which are in good condition but have minor defects (the printer has an area that does not always print well (new cartridge might fix). The computer inexplicably locks up about once a month - but does not have virus problems. Not a perfect system, but not a fixer-upper problem system either. 303.442.1805

Hello!
Eggs will be available at 104 Main Street starting from about 8:30 tomorrow!
Stop by if you need any!
Also PLEASE remember to return our cartons!
Thanks,
Anna and Jordie

Yes, we have rhubarb. 63 High Street. Feel free to take some, Juliette.

Garden lovers - we have chicken manure for sale - $20 for a 1/2 pickup truck load. VERY HIGH in nitrogen and ready to deliver immediately. Please let us know if you are interested. ..3.459.o245.

Nancy F - let us know if you are still interested!

BI-MONTHLY MEETING TODAY!
2PM @ SALLY AND HARRY'S
600 ROCK LAKE

ALL WELCOME.

Mark your calendars and be sure to come to the Millsite Inn in Ward next Friday, June 12th starting at the early hour of 7 p.m. to see the amazing...

HOWLETT'S GULCH

...an awesome pure rock band consisting of Tom Williams and Joe "Sugar Licks" Schiraldi on guitars, GARY DUNN ON BASS!!!!! and the one and only Squid on drums!!!

If you were at Sara Farmer's party at Rob's house in March, YOU KNOW how phenomenal this band is!!! Regardless, we are all lucky enough to have another chance. Remember...7 p.m. next Friday (earlier than usual bar time). SEE YOU THERE!

I've reconsidered my offer to put energy into mediation between bikers and drivers and trying to get the biking law changed, and have decided to surrender to it. Instead, I'll do my best to leave a little earlier and to bless all those that drive the canyon, whether on two wheels or four.

On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, QT - Jyoti wrote:

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Hey, Skippy - CONGRATULATIONS! Sorry to miss the shindig - getting over being sick and I overdid it in the garden today, so decided to lay low this evening. Hope you had a wonderful celebration!

My blue 93 Chevy S-10 pickup with 4WD and 156K miles is for sale for $750.
It has a shell, roof rack and trailer hitch.
If interested, give me a call at 442.1805 - frivolous inquiries only.

skips party starts at 5pm, we really would like folks to bring a dish if possible ,if not its o k
bring a chair! trying to feed people sixish
please come and have some fun

Would anyone have any Rhubarb to spare? Our plants were cleared away in the mudslides, but we do have some spicey Arugula to offer in exchange.

join laura sat eve for food drink and music. appearing tonight one of the most unusual and fun acts the blue ukulele ladies. happy retirement skippy

LAST DAY TO PRE-REGISTER
FOR DRAWING WITH LAURA MARSHALL

Saturday, June 6th 1-3pm
No materials or experience necessary.

Sign up in the P.O. or call 3.four/five/nine/0154.

Sponsored by JAM

CONGRATULATIONS Skipito! You deserve it! And I am sure you are going to enjoy it.

Open House party in our meadow Sat Jun 6 ...
I'm celebrating RETIREMENT !
How sweet it is!
Bring a chair - a dish is suggested, but not necessary
This is in the meadow, above our houses right out of Jimtown.
All are invited!
303.447.9003

Anyone heading to Boulder before noon? My brother is looking to get his motorcycle helmet to Boulder. I'm going to leave it sitting on the hood of my Jeep at 99 Main St (across and one house down from the Merc). His phone number is on it. He can pick it up from anywhere in Boulder. So if this would work, just pick it up then call him when you get down. Thanks so much, David Mans, 459-0203

Edited by author 06-04-2009 09:15 AM
     I want to thank John and Hollis and Vic and Denise for responding to my request for help with the irrigation ditch.
     I would like to respond here on the JQT to some questions that have come up in conversations recently.
     The ditch runs behind the length of Mesa Street; there have been users all along that street in the past(both sides)
     I think we could expand the reach of the ditch using pipes. We could get somewhere around 40-60 psi from gravity at the elevation of the town square. There are no real limits to where this could go but the easiest options are a pipe run to the top of town (where the paved road and Ward street intersect) and from there down both sides of the (paved) road, or a run from the east end of Mesa Street to Main Street.
     Electrical power could theoretically be generated with water dropping in a pipe from the highest point in the open ditch to the creek.
     Fire protection comes with a large volume of water delivered to much of the center of town (and especially the vulnerable southwest flank of town)even when the power is out.
     Anyway: thanks for all your offers of help and interest. We are going to open the ditch this Saturday! Allan Mueller

Hans...yes God is good....too bad more people don't see that!! I'm so glad your friend is home!! JM

Hans:

I'm so glad your dog came home, but is she okay? Please have her checked by a vet just to be on the safe side...you can call our local (and excellent) mountain vet, Lisa Cass @ (3o3) 459-o313. Good luck and let us know if you need any help.

THIS SATURDAY!
LAST JAM ARTS WORKSHOP OF THE SPRING!

Drawing with Artist Laura Marshall
http://www.lauramarshall.com/

NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY.
Saturday, June 6th from 1-3pm in the Town Hall

$10 pre-registration/$12 day of event

Sign up at the Jamestown P.O. or call Karen A 303. four/five/nine. 0154

Sponsored by JAM

Wow! The dog prayed all night!

At about 5:45 this morning, after a night of prayer, LAVA CAME HOME!!!!
God is good.

Steve and Karen, I'm willing to put energy into this mediation, though I'm more interested in getting the law changed. Along those lines, it might be helpful to invite Claire Levy.

While we are having our own (fairly civil) discussion here on the QT about the new bill, there's a whole other parallel universe
discussion happening on the Daily Camera website in response to Sunday's headline article "Tensions rise among mountain
drivers,cyclists" . It's quite eye-opening and disturbing.
Warning, the discussion is pretty venomous and somewhat frightening, with threats being thrown about in both directions. I think this new legislation has escalated frustrations that have been building for years, and have deep concerns about potentially serious outcomes.
Here's the link if you've got the stomach for it: http://
www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/may/31/boulder-drivers-new-law-cyclists/ You may need to cut and paste the link address. Scroll down for "Comments".

On Jun 3, 2009, at 10:10 PM, QT - Hans Scott wrote:

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At about 8:oo p.m. on Wednesday, June 3rd, my 7-month old Siberian Husky named "Lava" was hit by a car in front of the town hall. He was knocked over, but got up and ran to Ward Street. The last time I saw him he was about a half of a mile up Ward Street. He's mostly white with big grey and brown spots/patches on his back, tail and face. He's got grey patches over both eyes. He's wearing a bright blue collar with a rabies tag on it. If anyone sees him, please call me at 303-415-1342.

Hi all, the Blue Ukeladies are really excited about playing for you on Saturday night at the Merc! We've learned some new songs especially for Jamestown that we hope you'll enjoy. It will be good to see my good friends and neighbors again! (I warned the girls about the bicycles in the canyon so we can all stay safe!)

Edited by author 06-03-2009 05:57 PM
A good friend of mine, Corey Hartman, is opening a frame shop called Furthur Frames in Denver this weekend. They will be open for First Friday and are having a grand opening Saturday from 10am-6pm. From 2-6pm there will be snacks and beverages served. If you're going to be in the area, stop on by and say hey. Corey specializes in concert memorabilia, but can frame anything beautifully in any price range.

For address, gallery, and more info: http://www.furthurframes.com

Karen S., I saved a copy and can send it to you if you send me your email. Mine is steve AT goldnuggetcoaching DOT com.

rainbow has a very special meal for this thurs to celebrate her return fro the carolina beaches. come and enjoy scott von one more time as i don't know how much longer we will be gifted by his fine talent

Here's a link to 3 segments of a 2006 documentary about GMO crops.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18150.cfm

The link came from this week's Organic Consumer's Association Newsletter.
If you're interested in this subject and you don't get the OCA free e-mail newsletter, then you're missing out!
We all need to spread the word about this!

THAT'S OPEN SPACE!

June 29th with the Commissioners will also be an opportunity to make it clear we want no more gmo crops on Boulder County Office Space! Make your signs now...NO ROUND-UP READY SUGAR BEETS ON OUR PUBLIC LANDS!

P.S. Perhaps SteveE could print down last two pages of comments so a list of suggestions/ideas could be made up for future meeting with commissioners/bicyclists/legislation ideas. I don't have access to my printer while on-line. Also, make mine #3 out of 76,047 and we're not even trying yet! (for suggested legislation).

I am really encouraged by all of the ideas and opinions and input into the cyclist situation. I have also tried to "level" my emotions and be more scientific about my observances while driving. It SEEMED to me that 50% or more of bicyclists were inside the white line/failing to move over/or riding more than one abreast. I haven't recorded yet actual numbers but upon more objective observation, perhaps 20% is more accurate. But those 20% can still cause plenty of accidents and/or deaths. I agree that anyone who "crowds" a bicyclist who is OUTSIDE the white line is just as bad as the "bad" bicyclists and doesn't help matters any. I love all the ideas of meetings with bicycle groups as I have been betting for weeks that few to none of the bicyclists ever ride a CAR in the canyon and simply don't know what it's like. I have been talking to bicyclists on my own time and hear as many complaints from polite bikers about the bad bikers and they understand how it ruins it for everyone and they are embarrassed to be associated with THOSE bikers. I have also observed car drivers this week over the double yellow line without a bicyclist in sight. If we can't drive properly when NO cyclists are present, how can we expect to drive properly and safely when they ARE present? I only get on-line like twice per week but am willing to volunteer to pursue this issue. Perhaps Steve E and I could get together to brainstorm. I remain convinced that deaths will occur unless something is done and all options listed seem good. Anything is better than nothing. I've also e-mailed the Sheriff (Pelle) for ideas. Road grooming, "politeness classes", endorsements on licenses, insurance, additional signage, any and/or all will help reduce the possibility of deaths. Anyway, call me or e-mail regarding any way I can help. I am not letting this go, it is simply too dangerous and I fear for all who live in Jamestown. I do not want to lose any of us.

Mary Ellen, I don't think the venues you mentioned are effective for what's being requested of the board, that is, to make sure a facilitated problem solving discussion with cyclists and drivers occurs. The meeting with the sheriff, while worthwhile, sounded like a one sided airing of grievances (I was not there so it's second hand). The comiss meeting may be a way to move the idea forward but those also are airing of grievances especially when it comes to cyclists (at least that's what's happened at the last 12 or so I attended). Ideas do come up sometimes but they get drowned out by the grievances or the commissioners don't always follow through on what they say they'll do.

I'm asking the board to recruit a volunteer if nobody steps forward and failing that, have a board member take the lead. If that results in talking to and working with the county in some way that's fine. But I think it' a matter of leadership and initiative at this point.

As far as I'm concerned the board can accept or decline. I'd just like to know if something along these lines will be pursued by the board.

Alternative Energy Enthusiasts I just bought a bunch of these batteries, and they are a super deal. If anyone goes to buy some, let me know, as I'm interested in purchasing more of them. If anyone knows how to contact Cowboy, let him know about this deal.

C&D Technologies
UPS12-370FR 388W 100AH
Deep Cycle AGM Technology
Date Code 06/07. Never been used.
Retail for approximately 200.00.
Selling 1 - 50.00
Selling 2 - 90.00
Selling 3 - 120.00
Selling 4 - 150.00
Selling 5 - 175.00
Ryan
Phone: 303-325-7366

Bikers, Motorists and Elliot's Pitch ... I had similar experience to J, and wonder if the county could post some 'high danger area' signs on both sides of this hazardous area - maybe an icon of a dead cyclist. The car always wins in such situations, and I sure don't want to be a 'winner' because a few cyclists are reckless in that area.

Boulder County Commissioners will be in Jamestown on June 29 in the town square at 5:30 PM for their annual hot dog roast then the open meeting follows in the town hall at 6:30. That would be the time to discuss the bicyclists. There was a meeting two weeks ago that Tara organized in JT with Joe Pelle. 25 people attended.

Edited by author 06-03-2009 08:04 AM
O'B, I'm also to busy to organize. But I think it still can happen if a few people would step up to pull it together. I'd like to request of the Jamestown Town Board that you take on organizing an event as has been suggested (I know some if not all of you are regulars here). Please let us know if you accept or decline to take the lead so we're not left wondering.

In the mean time O'B, if you contact me I can forward any information on the people you said would help--3O3/444\8I4O or steve AT goldnuggetcoaching DOT com. (If all you get is phone static call back in a couple of days--Qwest hasn't fixed the bad line yet.)

Edited by author 06-03-2009 07:31 AM
Speaking of sweaty spandex...

We have an extra washing machine that we do not need that is left over from when we had renters. It is an Amana top-loading model, in full working condition. I can email a picture, or feel free to contact me to come & look.

Asking $60.

303/448/9434


Also, glad to see the productive approach to the cyclist issue.

I have been frustrated by the whole issue, but on Saturday while working in front of our house, I got to say "good morning" to just a few of the hundreds of cyclists who came up that day, and it was good therapy for some of the frustration/anxiety I've been feeling about the new law. Putting faces on this issue really helps put it in perspective.

Wow, Dave. That's a lot of votes. I'm in. Bubba sez he's in. So that's 2 out of 76,047.

Steve, I am too busy to organize a meeting, however, I can put you in touch with some folks if that would help. I like the notion of a mediator.

In regards to the sand on the shoulders, it depends on the skill level of the riders. Most avoid it, some welcome the challenge. The larger looser gravel is worse than the sand, and that is more from causing flat tires than traction. With the exception of certain stretches, I know that I can exceed the speed limit downhill on my skinny tires.

See you in the canyon!

Where is it written that cyclists have a Right to use the canyon roads? It seems to me that they would have more standing in their Equal Opportunity Offensive if their bikes were registered just like our cars, trucks and motorcycles. There should also be a requirement to get a bicycle endorsement on their driver’s license to operate a bicycle on a public road and a requirement to carry that license along with proof of insurance when operating a bicycle. Mount some turn signals and brake lights on those bikes too. The added expense would be minor compared to the $5,000 to $10,000 spent to acquire one.

In the mean time we should consider a ballot initiative that would prohibit cyclists from driving on any State or County paved mountain road that doesn’t have a dedicated bike lane on both shoulders. We would need the signatures of 76,047 registered voters to get it on the ballot.

On Friday, June 5th, the post office parking lot is scheduled for repair, including patchwork and striping. The lot will be closed while work is being done. Please use the lot below if necessary. I don't know if weather will be a consideration.

Take some time to check out the Roots and Shoots garden created by Jamestown Elementary School in front of the post office. It's become an established garden. The tulips, iris and columbine are blooming this week. Thanks to all who helped create this beautiful spot. It makes me smile when I see it each morning!

Edited by author 06-02-2009 09:57 AM
UPCOMING DEADLINES AND MEETING

JAM ARTS WORKSHOP
Drawing with Laura Marshall
Saturday, June 6th 1-3pm in the Town Hall
No Experience Necessary
$10 pre-registration, $12 day of workshop

SIGN UP IN THE POST-OFFICE BY FRIDAY TO PREREGISTER
OR CALL KAREN A 303.FOUR/FIVE/NINE X0154

JAVA JAM-A-PALOOZA CALL FOR ARTISTS
Entry deadline for all three categories--Visual Art, Performing Art, and Written Word--has been EXTENDED to June 13th.

Guidelines and registrations forms are in the Jamestown P.O.

Enter for a cash prize and share your art with the community.

Java Jam-a-Palooza is Saturday, June 27th from 4-10pm.

MONTHLY MEETING
1st Sunday of every month from 2-4pm
Sunday, June 7th, 2-4 pm
Sally and Harry Hempy's
600 Rock Lake Dr. Bar-K
All welcome.

The idea of getting together to talk is a good one. It's so much more difficult to demonize (and make "other," as is "us" v "them") a fellow human being when you have to talk to them face to face. Instead of "jerk," you meet Moe or Molly.

Looks like nobody likes my cookie idea. Oh well.

O'B. You have some good, concrete ideas that I think could help. Personally, I'm NOT of the school that thinks "if you can't fix everything do nothing." I think every positive step is a step forward and just lowering the temperature a bit would be helpful.

Some specific reactions to what you said . . .

- Up/down hill makes sense to me. I know it would make a huge difference for me if I had some confidence that bikers will pull over at the earliest opportunity. Also makes me think. . . how do we get as many people as possible (bikers and drivers) buying in and playing along?

- I like the idea of meeting. I would be interested in attending as would others from town I suspect. But I think there would need to be some ground rules. I am not at all interested in attending the biggest he-said-she-said meeting on earth. I would want to see the concerns raised in a productive way and that's it, on to solutions. Because I think the County has a huge stake in the situation I wonder if they might provide a good, neutral facilitator. If not, maybe one would volunteer pro bono, perhaps with a small stipend with some from Jamestown gov't (I haven't asked them if that's possible) and/or cycling groups. Maybe REI would take it on as community service. (Just ideas.)

- Don't know if this is a factor, but the shoulders do get very sandy and therefore slippery after rain. I've thought many times "maybe the bikes aren't using the shoulders because it's to sandy." Maybe there could be more cleaning by the County. I don't know what the cost is but it seems to me that a routine weekly sweep may be a lot less costly than widening shoulders (which have to be kept clean anyway). I do think shoulder widening is a good idea where possible but that will take a while. Why wait?

What next? Anybody else, feel free to chime in with your ideas.

My question would be..."occasionally" a construction vehicle. One of the ladies said she counted 140+ in one day or run? What happens when you get around one...then another...and another....then another? This appears to be out of control as are so many other situations. I'm not sure there "is" a solution. I just think not everyone can have what eveyone wants all the time. That's not even common sense. Oh well, blessings to everyone that cares!!

Allan,
sign me up for ditch project. I'm pretty flexible for time. give me a holler
vic 3/444/4010

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Here are some ideas and perhaps and answer to impedment:

The Slow Moving Vehicle rules apply to bicycles as they apply to any vehicle travelling under the speed limit, which allows SMV's to use the traffic lane until they are being followed by any vehicle capable of travelling at the speed limit, then, at the earliest and safest practical opportunity they must allow the traffic to pass. Witness construction vehicles, they can use the lane, but pull over when they are being followed. Uphill bicycle traffic in Lefthand and James Canyons fit that definition, and they have the added advantage of a bike lane/broad shoulder to work within.

Downhill bicycle traffic poses another issue. Many of the riders, and all of the racing community are capable of travelling the speed limit downhill, so either we have to slow down, and I'm guilty as charged, or figure out a way to safely move around them. Tailgating a bicycle is a bad idea, they can stop faster and have no rear warning devices other than hand signals. I don't mind a horn tap. Mind you I said tap. Leaning on your horn isn't the same, and will likely promote the one-finger salute.

I drive a louder vehicle, so unless the cyclists are wearing headphones, which many now do, there is little excuse. Again, a horn tap would be effective. I don't want to be squished again, it is among the singlemost scariest experiences I have ever had. Or opening your window for a group riding appropriately and simply saying "hey thanks" or a thumbs' up will go a long way.

There are 3 "infamous" vehicles in James Canyon among the cycling community. If they read this post, they know who they are. I hope for their sakes that they do not slip one day and hit someone while menacing them with their vehicle, it will be a felony, especially as your license plates are known.

Ultimately, we are on the horns of a dilemma. There are two rights in this conversation, neither is more right. We all need to work together, and part of that is slowing down and taking a breath. I used to remove the Boycott Jamestown sign just to see how long it wold be until it reappeared. I think that the "bat" sign is funny, but there are those who will see it as a threat. I suggest that cyclists are treated as SMV's and they should act so too. Remember when you get behind a backhoe or other heavy construction piece of equipment that it may take a few moments to get sorted out, but they will get out of the way.

How about an all road users meeting at a neutral location? REI has a community room, we could invite some of the local cycling teams/groups, GO Colorado, the Sherrif Pelle, Boulder PD and maybe some of the members of the Emergency Services community along with the residents of the Boulder County canyons. Although we may need to find a bigger venue... If we hosted one here at the town hall it would be hard for cyclists to feel comfortable.

I agree with SteveE -- let's develop some practical ways to address our legitimate concerns. As a resident and somebody who bikes up and down our canyon, I find the new law troubling for one main reason: it increases the likelihood of drivers crossing over into oncoming traffic around blind turns. I see that probability increasing for two reasons: (1) bikes are more likely to be blocking the lane, and (2) drivers are more likely to get into a pattern or regular crossing of the double-yellow line (something we already do, btw, to a large extent). Add a dollop of frustration, and we have the recipe for some nasty accidents.

I just returned from a trip to N.M., where the mountain roads had many, many signs directing/reminding drivers about when it was safe or unsafe (and allowed or not allowed) to pass other cars. I wonder if that suggests a stop-gap measure we should take here: ask for signs to be posted at all blind turns between J-town and Boulder to the effect "Blind turn -- do not cross double-yellow line".

As a longer-term solution, I think we should ask our legislators to amend the law -- with the encouragement of the sheriff -- to require bikes to remain on the side of the road when approaching such turns. Again, I think this should be accompanied by reminder-signs, to the effect "Blind turn -- bikes move to the side".

Other ideas?

One more thing regarding Elliot's Pitch. Last summer I was run off the road, and almost into the creek, by an oncoming truck driving up the canyon that came into my lane around the curve to avoid a biker riding in the bike lane. The biker was not at fault. In my mind this new legislation just creates more and more potentially dangerous situations in which both drivers and bikers make foolish moves that could result in harm.

On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:13 AM, QT - Jyoti wrote:

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O'B,
Thanks for your posting. It sounds like you are a model rider. But I'm not sure I share your optimism that this will die down. Having lived in Jamestown for 14 years I've seen a growing. level of frustration over the years. The new law just seems to be taking it to a new level faster.

I also understand that everyone feels they have a right to the road and point to the law to prove it. But as we've been told by the sherif the law is gray. For example, there is no firm definition of when traffic is considered to be impeded. And even if the law was black and white, it's one law for everywhere. It doesn't take into account that conditions vary on different roads, especially on narrow canyon roads. In my opinion, if anyone self righteously holds the law up above public safety, they are inviting disaster. (Please understand, I'm not saying you in particular are doing that. But I think some people do.)

Rather than get into a pissing match about what everyone should be doing, I keep wondering if it would help to approach the situation more creatively. Unfortunately, I don't know what that would look like, but I have wondered . . .

+ What would bike riders prefer that a driver do when the riders are in the driving lane, especially up hill, and especially around blind curves? I'd like to think that most riders would like to somehow be gently alerted and pull over to the side, just as many of the drivers do for each other. A tap on the horn doesn't seem to be liked. t unfortunately, that's all I have on my car. How would riders liked to be alerted? Do most of them really want drivers to slow down to 5 mph going around every up hill curve just in case there's a bike? Seriously, what do bikers recommend? What do bikers do when they are driving and come across a bike in the middle of the road?

+ I've wondered if positive reinforcement would help. I for one wouldn't mind stopping right there in the canyon and offering a recognition reward when I encounter riders who are riding single file on the side of the road. I'd be willing to give them a cookie or a discount certificate at the Merc, or a "Jamestown appreciates you" badge for their Jersey. But frankly, given the mood that's existed for a long time, I'd be afraid that stopping might be taken as an invitation to rumble. What positive reinforcements might help?

+ I've noticed that some of the worst offenders are some of the large groups of riders that insist on exerting their power as a group. What could the biking community do within it's own ranks to exert peer pressure for the bad apples to clean up their act? I suspect the jerks are as visible to the other bikers as they are to he drivers. Clearly there are jerk drivers and maybe some form of community peer pressure could help there. But frankly, I think there are some psychopathic drivers in our hills and I have no idea what to do about them other than to suggest that everyone get out of their way.

I'm to the point of believing that everyone preaching at each other about how they are in the rights is not going to make the situation any better. In fact, I believe it makes things worse. So my question is . . . what are some practical steps we can take to start to make things better?

I'm writing to encourage this debate to continue. Clearly there was much discussion and debate and effort on the part of bikers that resulted in the passing of this bill. Unfortunately, we were not invited to join that process. While the advice about how to ride up and down the canyon with a peaceful state of mind is useful (I'm taking all the advice I can get and using it), there should still be room for discussion and dissent about the recent legislation. I've actually been questioning whether I want to continue living here in Jamestown as the drive is so onerous... in winter the snow and in summer the bikers. The new legislation is over the top in my
opinion. The road wouldn't even be in existence if we didn't live here, so our voice should have been part of the debate from the beginning.


On Jun 2, 2009, at 12:36 AM, QT - O'B wrote:

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Hmmm. It was about fifteen years ago we went through similar emotional turmoil regarding "appropriate road use" in the canyons of Boulder County. And, during that period of time, I was struck on my bicycle 3 times. Once in Sunshine Canyon descending, and I know that I was going at least speed limit and on the outside of the fog line, not in the lane. An aggressive angry driver hit me from behind. The CSP tracked him down. I've been hit twice in Boulder, commuting, riding properly, both times by inattentive motorists. I was the president of the Bicycle Racing Association of Colorado, now the American Cycling Association and sat on the board of GO Colorado which has been advocating for shared road use for years. Believe me, these groups are still working hard at educating folks on both sides. So much for my history.

I ride in and use the canyons and Hwy 36 regularly, and I have never had a negative encounter here, except for some occasional verbal abuse and was once struck by a half-eaten cheeseburger on Trail Ridge Road. I use the road and the lanes as they were intended, and am familiar with Colorado Motor Vehicle code. And I abuse that code in my truck occasionally... I for one appreciate Karen D's attitude and would suggest that until we have walked in someone else's shoes, perhaps we should reserve judgement.

There are a variety of cyclists who use "our" canyon regularly: racers, recreationalists, mountain cyclists, people trying to regain a level of health and fitness lost, charity groups, racing events and let's not forget some of the other alternative sports: road skiing, road luging, horse folks, the occasional cattle drive and I'm certain there are others that I am missing. Heart attack is a bigger risk. I was the first Paramedic on scene last year for the cyclist flown from Elliot's Pitch, and that was a bicycle crash, he wasn't struck by a vehicle. The point is the road is public. My fuel taxes along with yours and other taxes that we all pay help to maintain, improve, widen and otherwise aid in keeping the road passable and safe year around, as do "theirs".

In my opinion, what this law now does is make it legal to cross the double-yellow line when safe to pass a cyclist. Likewise it makes it legal for riders to go abreast when appropriate, but they are still required to file out if there are cars behind. Personally, I am grateful to those who were being "neighborly" this morning as I rode in to Boulder for a meeting and swung completely into the oncoming lane. While this is a kind gesture, it is not necessary. You can pass within inches of me, I'll feel "strafed", I chose to ride the road and I accept that. Giving me some room is appreciated, keeping your food and comments unless encouraging inside your vehicle is appreciated too.

The bad apples fall on both sides of the fence. This died down after a riding season 15 years ago, and I expect it will do likewise thise time. Don't fall into the bucket of bad apples, whether you ride or drive.

Miles,
Call Louie 3/525-8737

I have a leaking hose faucet and am in need of a plumber. Are there any local plumbers, or does anyone have a recommendation? Thank you!

Upcoming Pet Vaccine and Wellness Clinics:

Just a reminder I will be at my new office next to the Merc tomorrow (Tuesday) from 2-4pm. Walk-ins are welcome for vaccines, wellness exams, and heartworm testing.

I am also holding vaccine and wellness clinics for two SATURDAYS at that location: Saturday June 20 from 12-3 and Saturday July 11 from 12-3. Don't worry, I'll remind you again as those dates come closer....

Feel free to drop me an email with any questions: mountainvetATgmail.com

On the way home from Boulder last Saturday, I counted 177 bicyclists from the bottom of Lee Hill to Jamestown (on their way up and down). Every single one of them was riding in the bike lane, single file (except for two who were riding side by side until I approached and then they quickly moved over) and I encountered no problem all the way home.

The issue, regardless of whether they were behaving or not, was that I had to go around (pass) cyclists every few yards all the way home. This can be irritating if I let it. But instead, I decided to just slow down a little, enjoy the beautiful day (like they were trying to do) and just take it one curve at a time. The most amazing thing happened! I felt this sort of harmony with them, like we were all in sync with one another and my car and their bikes didn't matter anymore. We were all just people getting up the canyon together. Slowing down also gave me the opportunity to actually see their faces and understand that they're just people...like me, seizing the day. You have to admit: taking in the beauty of the canyon is much more achievable at a bicycle pace. Yes, there are going to be the ocassional jerks that ruffle our feathers, but honestly, those people don't only ride bicycles!

 And as far as the concern for the new law causing more accidents, I think that can be avoided if we drivers pass the bikes only when it is safe to do so. Don't let cars behind you pressure you into passing a bike when you can't see around the corner. We should never pass a bike when we can't see far enough ahead to know if there's an oncoming car or not.

Telling people they should not be having a problem rarely works. In fact, it's a form of agression, "I'm right and you just have to get over it". It's no different from the cyclists who feel they have priority, the drivers who drive recklessly and the drivers who don't let others past. The "I'm right, you're wrong, FU" attitude is the problem. Forcing people to just "get over it" will not resolve the problem.

Kudos to Karen S!!!!!!!!!

There are not significantly more bicyclists than last summer, correct, but now they will be ALLOWED to ride IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD! This is what will cause accidents that haven't occurred before. It's not about road rage at all. I drive like a granny and get mad at those "rushing" up the hill instead of enjoying the scenery we are so lucky to have on our way home. It is death I fear...of someone I care about which is nearly every resident of Jamestown. The new law will CAUSE the accidents that have so far been (mostly) missing. Someone I care about was almost killed TWICE in ten days due to cars 100% in the wrong lane driving around bicyclists. This new law REQUIRES this sort of driving...in the WRONG lane. And the law hasn't even taken effect yet. I fail to see what was wrong with requiring bicyclists to ride OUTSIDE the white line just as cars can be ticketed for not driving INSIDE the white line, and the single file law. THIS was the law that prevented loss of life, the law of common sense and safety. But now, common sense and safety have been outlawed. My Mom taught me not to play in the road and we got a "whooping" if we were caught not looking both ways before crossing, letting our sleds get in the street or any other unsafe behavior. Now apparently it's push your kids out in to the street and let the driver beware and get sued for others' stupidity. Roads are for cars, playgrounds and yards are for kids, outside the white line in the bike lane is for bikes. Sometimes there is REASON to order and laws...at least until now.

All that has changed about the bicyclist situation is that people have gotten upset about it all over again. After 28 years of living in this canyon I can tell you it's nothing new. Yes, the new law passed, and maybe there has been some unusual arrogance both on the part of the cyclists and of motorists, but road rage is a state of mind, people! It's not as if suddenly there are significantly more cyclists than there were last summer, and the most serious accident I can recall was a lone cyclist with a head injury that had nothing to do with a conflict with a motorist. They're not going away, and most of them are behaving. Don't make their presence on the road an excuse to misbehave yourself. Calm down, for crying out loud! There's a lot of negative energy being stirred up and that is just not productive for anyone concerned.

Monthly JAM meeting (1st Sunday of every month at 2pm)
Sunday, June 7th @ 2pm
Sally & Harry Hempy's House
600 Rock Lake Dr.

Meeting will start promptly at 2pm. See you there.

On the agenda--Java JAM-a-palooza.

Everyone welcome!

Stop by on your way home tonight. Karen A is serving Steak Sandwiches with or without fancy mayonnaise, and of course, a smile.

Between the recreational bikers that can ride two abreast UP the canyon, and the recreational bikers that can ride in in the middle of road DOWN the canyon, there's little room for a car that is trying to make it to Boulder for work or home to Jamestown on any given day.
How about an amendment to the current law that says a biker is
required to remain in a biking lane in mountain roads when such lane exists. Didn't we as taxpayers just spend 3 million to pay for a biking lane in James Canyon?

On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:49 AM, QT - Jyoti wrote:

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I just opened the Sunday Daily Camera and this story about bikers was the headline. Please check it out..

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/may/3...der-drivers-new-law- cyclists/

On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:41 AM, QT - Jyoti wrote:

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You go Dave!! Just when I was believing that the bicycle lobbyist group was too big to confront I see there's a little progress on our side of the issue. The photo was a perfect example of what happens as we try to make our way down the canyon to work.

On May 31, 2009, at 2:27 PM, QT - DaveT wrote:

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Hello,
Tomorrow from about 8:30 we will have eggs on the top deck of 104 Main Street.
Stop by if you need any!

Anna and Jordie

Roycroft P. Woolufson

Dave,
The cyclist disaster is not going to go away.&#A0; I fear driving the canyon since someone "getting around" a cyclist is going to hit me head on.&#A0; It's like driving a gauntlet....and with peoples anger its a just a matter of time before there's accidents.&#A0; Thanks so much for your input. Judy Mc

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From: QT - DaveT <qtopic-19-ttG9iqmEC2K@quicktopic.com>
Subject: Jamestown Bulletin Board
To: "QT topic subscribers" <qtopic-subs@quicktopic.com>
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 8:27 AM


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Thank you everyone for coming out last night and supporting our new project! We hope you'll all come back and see us again, it's only getting better from here. Special thanks to Tom and Laura Williams for the gear. See you all soon!

Allan, thanks for all the work you've done and continue to do to keep the irrigation ditch open and viable. While unable to give a day I would be happy to participate in a neighborhhood cleanup like the one we did a few years ago.

About a week ago I suggested to the Camera that they look into this cyclist debacle, and low and behold they did:
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/may/3...s-new-law-cyclists/

JAVA-JAMAPALOOZA

The date's coming up fast! We're going to need pop-up canopies for the goodie tables. If anyone has one we can borrow for the fabulous festivity, call me:

3-443-one eight four one

Cindy, you can post pictures here if you'd like - sorry, I think I deleted the email with them in it. Roy looks like a gorgeous boy!

I'm starting my planting for the day, still needing help. (See below) Call 3/938-eight, eight, eight, two. Cheers, Kevin

Hi JTers. Cindy Rose here, a childhood friend of your Nancy Farmer, in case my name isn't familiar. I have another dog for whom I am trying to find a home. This time it's a newly-neutered male Alaskan Husky named Roy. He's about a year old and as beautiful a dog as you'll find anywhere. He's from Casper's kill shelter and he had run out of time having been surrendered by his original humans (foreclosure) and again by his second set (for fence-jumping). I have a side yard with an eight-foot sheep fence but it and the gates are not Husky-proof in that Roy can get under them. He can run a half-mile in just under a minute and would be an excellent skijoring or sled dog. Right now he is a slender but energetic 51 pounds. He is white and fox red with a slightly freckled nose. He is very typical for the breed--aloof, sassy, likes kids, as dumb as a box of hammers until he fools you, fun-loving, gentle and sweetly conniving. He is housetrained but may mark if not pottied regularly, although this should disappear as the neutering takes hold. He should never be off-leash for any reason. If you fancy a lanky Husky with loads of personality, have a secure, husky-proof enclosure and like to take long walks with happy dogs, Roy might be your boy. Email me at crose61514 at wyoming dot com for more images and info, or ask Nancy Jane for my number and give me a call.

Someone (Richie?) parked a white Blazer type vehicle in our meadow. Since Skip will be having a retirement party there next Saturday, we're gonna have it towed unless the owner calls us and lets us know when it will be removed. Could DJ know about this (does anyone know how to contact him ... JAMmers?). We really don't want to have to take this action - so whoever owns the vehicle, please contact us (at 303- cube root 89314623 . ceil(1/ log(n) 0.109825) ), or call Peter Carbone in the phone book. The party's open to everyone in Jimtown, even the person who owns the Blazer, who we promise we will only tease a little bit ;-)

Hi neighbors.
I need some help planting ground-cover plants this weekend -- basically digging holes for the plants (1 ft x 1 ft). I did 10 this afternoon and am afraid I'll run out of steam. ;-)
I pay $5/hole until the project is finished (50 more holes needed, but I'll be digging as well).
If interested, please call me at 3/938-eight, eight, eight, two (please wait until the morning to call, since we put the baby to sleep fairly early).
Thanks,
Kevin

Hey Allan: I will participate on the "ditch project" as much as I can. Call me @ 939-9797 or stop by. djh

CALLING ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, ARTISTS, & RAFFLE GIVERS EXTRAORDINAIRES!

It's that time of year again!!
July 4th is just around the corner bringing with it our annual Jamestown 4th of July Pancake Breakfast and day long celebration benefiting the JVFD/EMS.

One of the highlights of our celebration is the all day Raffle. Every year we have wonderful, exciting prizes to give away in the raffle and that could not happen without the generous contributions of our surrounding local businesses and artists.

If you, or someone you know, would like to give to this years raffle please contact me at 3o3-449-1129 or email: babyrosegrl@yahoo.com

Thanks and hope to see you all there!!!

We are getting a free quote for a water drainage solution from Complete Basement Systems in Denver. Our basement floods every Spring.

This is their website, http://www.basementsystemscolorado.com/ .

Our appointment is on Tuesday, July 7th at 3:00pm (they are booked out for three weeks!). We thought we'd put it out there to see if any one else has a need so the company could make multiple appointments in the neighborhood.

Hey Allan,
I've been meaning to talk to you about ditchin' stuff. I"ll be around, stop in.

There has been more interest in the town’s irrigation ditch this year, so I thought I would give a little of the low-down on the ditch. My name is Allan Mueller; I have been working on the ditch since I moved to town in 1982. I have been the “ditch rider” for about 10 years. The typical time for starting the ditch is anytime from April to Labor Day depending on the weather. We are currently waiting for some felled trees to be cleared which are blocking the ditch and the access path. The property owner who cut the trees has said “any day now” so we will be opening the ditch soon.
 When we do open the ditch I could use the able bodied help of one person (for a day) or two persons (for a half day each). If anyone is interested, I would be delighted to hear from you; please leave a note on the QT.
 There is a lot of potential benefit to folks in Jamestown from the ditch for irrigation, fire fighting, and perhaps power generation. The ditch could be expanded to service many more properties in town as well. In the mean time, I will continue to keep the diversion rights and water rights associated with the ditch viable by wetting the ditch to the first user every year. It would be really cool, though, if the ditch was used extensively again and the benefits and efforts were shared in the community.

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What Cleg wrote came through all garbled on my machine...I'm sure I missed something!
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Oh Cleg, I do value your opinion but I must disagree with you, Aloha

Thanks for your *theory* Jeff ... but there's a lot of them, and they have left the Juniper and are moving slowly around in my house, with a slight sucking sound, and they are ..... ARRRRGH ....

Nancy, here's the link to the article (May 17th letters to the
editor ... 4th article down titled "Where do we draw the line").

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/may/17/17elet/

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Looks like a Juniper-Hawthorn Rust gall. Read more about it: http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Ptlk/1450.html
It seems it's relatively harmless to the juniper, but if you have a apple, crabapple, hawthorn or mountain ash tree, it can be harmful over time
~Jeff

Can anyone ID the weird growth that appeared on a Juniper after the rain?
Most of them are not spiky, like the one in the photo, but more bloblike, and they have no odor. They're about the size of a ping-pong ball.

Weird Growth

Good golly, Trevor - I don't suppose you have the contact information for that nincompoop who wrote in to the Daily Camera (the link was posted sometime last week) about how bicycles shouldn't have to have license numbers because their riders all have cars sitting in their garages with license plates they've already paid for?

And another thing, what Cleg said!

Oops - let my Evil Twin sit down at the computer and try to bust my positive bubble... ;-)

Ohhhhhhhhhh, ok, thank u!

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There are bicycles in NY, too!

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David,
Did I miss something in Cleg's message?

Well said, Cleg ;)

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The moral of this song,
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Blake, You and Jenny are most welcomed "official" members of the community for sure and I really enjoyed reading your post. Excellent. If there ever was a "Best Of The QT" it would definitely make that list. (with several others) Thanks.

Well said, Blake.

For me personally,I've noticed how I can get extra amped up and upset towards the bikers while I am in the company of others who are anti-bike. Part of that may be because I am simply trying to "fit in" with the locals/ community here(I'm fairly new to Jamestown as a resident). However,there was one really cloudy/foggy day 2weeks ago when I got kind of upset:

I was driving to Boulder and I literally could not see the 3 bikers in the middle of the road in front of me until I was almost upon them,snug and dry in my automobile. I was really wishing that the bikers had some flashers on or some kind of tail-lights. Nobody in their right mind wants to hit another person!

Sometimes it takes an effort on my part, but I try to catch and remind myself that the bikers as human beings rather than,say, "invading hordes of spandex clad, neon-colored helmet/shoe wearing 'outsiders'". In truth,I actually admire most of them for the physical will and effort they put into huffing and puffing their ways up here. Mostly,I just wish that those who did so would try to be more safe and smart about it.

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The cyclist thing is pretty crazy to observe as a newcomer to Jimtown and Colorado (we got here 10 months ago). Aside from the obvious safety concerns and what appears to be arrogant and careless behavior by many of them, I think we (if I can count myself as a member of this community at this point) feel "invaded" by the hordes who utilize the road, the water jug, the bathroom at the merc, the middle of the street, etc. This is a bit irrational and xenophobic in my opinion; even worse, I'm sure that is exactly how they view us: parochial provincials attempting to jealously guard our little mountain enclave from the outside world. In reality, we know that's not the case, but once you've adopted an "us vs. them" mentality about other human beings you're on a slippery slope towards prejudice, stereotyping, intolerance, and hatred...many in this community have already reached that last stage, I'm afraid, and that's a bad thing.

In 10 months I've seen all the bad behavior and I've felt the same reactions as everyone else. A small percentage of them act like jerks and almost seem to flaunt their use of "our road" for their own kicks. It's annoying on one level, infuriating on another,and flat out reckless and dangerous on yet another. But I've never been inconvenienced by more than a couple minutes, and since I don't expect much from other people, I'm making the effort not to bothered by what I consider rude or disrespectful cyclist behavior. They are not children and we are not Miss Manners, but if you're at the Merc sitting on the porch and they are right next to you spitting and blathering, tell them they are being rude. Mostly likely, they are so off in their little space they don't realize there are non-cycle folks right next to them. No one (even themselves when they are sitting at Amante) wants someone acting like this when they are enjoying a coffee or beer al fresco on a nice day. They are in a very different mindset on the road than motorists are: they are hyped up, aggro, and trying to beat their last time up or down the mountain. They are mad at cars. They are high on exercise and adrenaline. We are not, but hatred will put you there and you will not act rationally. Personally, I think you've got a screw loose if your idea of fun is riding a bike right next to cars on dangerous mountain roads, and positively insane to ride on 36 while cars going 70 mph whiz past (When we first visited Boulder I thought "who let the bikes on the freeway"?). In fact, I think they are engaging in an inherently dangerous activity. But, it's legal, and I'm trying to deal with the situation and the other human beings involved as best I can. Tolerance and compassion are the most skillful and expedient means for achieving this. To misquote Elvis Costello: "I used to be disgusted...now I try to act calmly."

And to those who want to start filming cyclists running stop signs and so forth and want more law enforcement up here, keep in mind you're getting filmed too. You can't have it both ways and think that 1984-ish surveillance techniques will stop this kind of behavior only when the cyclists do it. "Be careful what you wish for"...everyone speeds up and down the canyon and more cops here to deal with errant cyclists means more tickets for us. Personally, I like the fact that we don't see much law enforcement here, because we don't need it. Sheriff Pelle was faced with this precise question (stationing deputies at the stop signs in town to ticket cyclists) at the Town Hall meeting and responded "no, that's a minor violation and we don't use our resources to pursue that kind of 'stupid ticket'". I have to agree. If you ask me, folks don't really think it's "unsafe" for cyclists to run the signs...they're just mad at the cyclists in general and want to see them punished. Schadenfreude is rarely a commendable emotion.

We've got major problems in the world. Over the past couple months I've changed/softened my opinion on this somewhat, and wish that this was in fact as big a problem as folks are making it out to be...then the other real issues we're facing right now would seem minor in comparison.

Approach each blind curve in the canyon as if there is a boulder in the middle of your lane right around the corner, and monitor your speed so that you can stop in time. You should never be driving so fast that you can't see the lay of the road ahead without enough time to stop if necessary...whether it's for a cyclist taking a leak in the middle of the road or a fallen rock. Yes, I know, they are kind of the same thing...but as the Sheriff said "Just slow down. Relax". I have to agree.

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Edited by author 05-26-2009 12:10 AM
heres an idea... a "walk in there shoes kinda thing" where a whole bunch of non bicyclists volunteer to ride bikes up the canyon on a sat while an equal amount of bicyclists drive up and down while trying to navigate around those daring enough to ride 3 across ect commiting the infractions that seem to piss people driving off.... we all meet at the merc everone has beers( excluding those that got hit on the way up it wil be a morphine cocktail for them...)and discuss things like semi normal human beings and may be learn and teach something to each other. OR (if ya really don't want to ride a bike up beautiful james canyon) take a non resident bicyclistfor a drive from the greenbriar up on a sat sun...so they get a first hand look at the difficulties of driving safety up and down. some may really not realise how sketcy it can be for both parties... yeah i'll get back to puffin and bunny huggin now..sure its a long shot and just a flash of an idea but who knows....if you can guess who this is i'll buy you a pitcher at the merc....yea..

Oak I have a pair i think in my storage shed, may have the soft cast too...right foot... if i do. I am in Longmont but u are welcome to borrow them.

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I've been driving this canyon for 6+ years and never had huge problems w/ cyclists in general, just the occasional clueless and/or obnoxious ones. A little patience goes a long way. However, on TWO different occasions within the last month, I have had the unfortunate timing to have come around a curve, only to witness a male cyclist with his junk fully whipped out, URINATING right by the side of the road. No attempt made to go into the bushes or behind a tree, just hangin' it out to dry right on the shoulder of the road. The second one even had a decidedly smug look on his face as I drove by.

There have also been occasions where I have been enjoying the sunshine on my deck, which sits right above Overland Road, only to hear a group of cyclists taking a breather after making it up the switchbacks, hocking loogies (sp?), belching, swearing, etc., much like Hollis describes.

Having lived in and around Boulder on and off since the 1980's, I have accepted the fact that, in this area, cyclists are generally afforded at least as many privileges as us lowly motorists. But this kind of F.U. attitude is taking that privilege a bit too far. Basic consideration is in order, but it goes both ways.

Paul

Hey Jamestownians,
Thjs cycle stuff is getting funny...that is until you run into one of them coming down the canyon while your "trying" to get around one going up!! At least we all have a sense of humor bout this!!

does anybody have a pair of crutches (for a shorter person), and/or a soft cast for a right foot?
i've hurt my ankle....bummer....720-266-4067 or oak@riseup.net
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hollis i think theres a bycyclist takin a crap on your front lawn right now

Primary transportation.

Some of my observations as I drive the canyon:
I've noticed in myself, if I see a cyclist dressed in T-shirt and shorts or appear to be riding their bikes as primary transportation. I see them as real people....
When they are dressed in the bike riding sporting gear, they appear less human,almost like automatons.
Over time,I have been able to recognize some locals just by the way they ride irregardless of what they are wearing. I know these are real people.
Everyone deserves and gets a certain level of respect....if they want more it will have to be earned.
This morning at the Merch I was on the porch and a group of cyclist pulled up, speaking loudly,blowing their noses, hocking and spitting. All very human..... but very unbecoming public behavior.
I guess if I took the time to get to know hundreds of them, then we as friends could sit down and chew the fat, so to speak.Somehow I don't think that we would have a lot in common.

Great discussion on the bicyclist issues. It seems like there is already more cooperation on the road, I think. Maybe I'm wrong, but as much as change sucks, it makes us more aware of each other out there on the road. Don't get me wrong, I have hated a few of them myself at times, but so far this year, it's been better.

Corey....your message was very good. I also worked with a guy that's brother experienced almost the same thing. He passed and the cyclist coming down the canyon (in the middle of the road) went head first into his windshield...result...cyclist dead....my friends brother never been the same. There are toooooooo many cyclists in this canyon....I'm sorry but the road was NOT designed for cyclists...at least not this many and frankly people can't always do what they want in life. Everybody can't have a yes all the time....someone has to take no... so frankly speaking maybe these cyclists CAN'T do this canyon or any other because of safety.
There ARE bike paths! Has anyone even thought of that? The reason they do this canyon is because its easy...Boulder canyon and Coal Creek rarely have cyclists. I fear this is an issue that is going to result in catastrophie eventually no matter how educated you try and get. Good message Corey. And yes, in a perfect world! Welp, we don't have that now do we??? blessings Jamestownians

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Edited by author 05-23-2009 11:54 PM
Hello all:
My wife and I have friends who ride this canyon and we know a former cyclist (a parent in my wife's school) who is now paralyzed from the neck down because of an accident in which a motorcycle crossed the line and went head-on with him!

While most cyclists try their best to move over for motor vehicles to pass, there are those "bad apples" who have really created this animosity!

I for one have witnessed some incredibly unintelligent behavior by cyclists (as well as motorists) in my 13 years of driving up and down this canyon! (the details of which I won't go into here.)

I have to admit that I do get a kick out of the road sign as you head South up Olde Stage (the one with the car and bicycle where someone has painted-in a passenger in the car with a baseball bat ready to clock the unsuspecting cyclist!)

However, the solution to any problem is not revenge or animosity, it is EDUCATION!

Perhaps we can sponsor an education campaign (including the Sheriff's Department) for cyclists and motorists alike in which signs are erected and people go out and hand-out materials and talk with cyclists and motorists outlining safe and courteous behavior and the dangers of traveling in these canyons!

I know, I know: in a perfect world...yadda, yadda, yadda...(and I do believe in the benefits of natural selection) but the answer doesn't lie in malicious harm, but rather compassion and understanding (by all parties)!

No one wants blood on their hands (or their bumpers) and no one wants to end up a vegetable..or worse!

I believe that extending a hand to our two-wheeled visitors while getting to know them might facilitate a mutual respect which could only lead to solutions.

Let's give education a chance and see if it has a positive impact!

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I've been watching all the postings on the cycle law (well illeged law)...and frankly folks bottom line is there's not a thing we'll be able to do about it. This is just like most all the laws the gov't is implementing now...its being shoved down our throats and the people that come up with common sense and logic are made out to be the villians. I do think that there will be accidents because of this and the bad guy is....you guessed it...the one in the car! So...eat and drink at the merc and let the "higher power" handle the rest!! blessings Jamestowners!

Colleen that was exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of. Humor helps. Who knows? Perhaps in 20 years "Jamestown Silly Cyclist Day" will be as famous as "Nederland Dead Guy Day".

Rules & laws aside, I've discovered that sharing the road can be great Zen practice!

First of all I NEVER leave my lane in the canyon--which means waiting for cyclists to move over sometimes--but if I'm sending out good energy (& patience) ahead of me, it amazes me how smooth, enjoyable & SAFE my drive is. I've even started waving to the cyclists--they LOVE that.

Although it's hard sometimes, it really is a great opportunity to practice being "bigger" inside rather than being on the defensive all the time & setting myself up for inevitable confrontation, even if it is just internal!

(Ok, now that I've said that, I fully expect the universe to send me every bad-mannered, annoying cyclist out there on my next trip to town--Ha!)

Happy Springtime Riding & Driving to all!

Anne

Edited by author 05-22-2009 02:22 PM
Fabulous photo Colleen!!

For the record.

I'm not advocating violence or the lack of safety for anyone. I earn my living recognizing, catagorizing and mitigating RISK....And performing Safety and health work. It would however be great if cyclists could atleast obey the laws already on the books and not be already acting snyde.
Remember the law doesnt take affect until August 4th....almost 12 weeks away.....Hollis Ive got a couple of cold ones.....

Edited by author 05-22-2009 02:04 PM
Again what starts out as "feel good" legislation has unintended consequences. So how to fix it?
1. Have the Governor call a special session of the legislature to address our concerns. Unlikely to happen.
2. Have the next session amend/repeal the law. It's possible, won't rule it out.
3. Put an citizen initial on the ballot to modify the state constitution to over rule the gov/legislators. Would require organization and $$$$ -unlikely to occur.
4. Have it challenged in court. Could take years to resolve and cost $$$$
5. Have Boulder County pass an ordinance restricting the state law with respect to mountain roads. Not sure if they have the authority or stones to do it.
6. Reread Henry David Thoreau's essay on Civil Disobedience and act upon ones conscience.
7. Get together with the cyclists and negotiate a peace. That assumes the cyclists are a monolith or an organized bunch. They aren't.
8. Have the Sheriff enforce the laws on the books about running stop signs, speeding and the like.

Or do nothing and let nature take its course. When the inevitable happens, and gets page one above the fold and the lead story on the local news stations, the politicians will take note and "change" will take place.

Edited by author for spelling

Saw this alongside the road in Brush, Co

Edited by author 05-22-2009 12:57 PM
Hey Ben, I heard it was at your house. I'm bringing the entertainment,Mimes on unicycles.

God knows I get my Irish temper going about the bicyclist issue. But I'm concerned about the rapidly escalating incendiary nature of our conversation. I'm concerned that somebody on either side will do something foolish, or that something tragic will happen.

The fact is it's a law now. We can't change that--at least not quickly. But neither do I believe that we're powerless to do anything.

I suggest that we put this on the agenda for the next Town Board meeting, at which time we can begin to amass a list of PRODUCTIVE ideas (NOT just complaints) to make things better. It might be that we have to look at short-term AND long-term strategies. For example:

* Long term: Joan Fitz-Gerald has long been a friend to this town. though no longer in the legislature, she may be willing to help us with a legislative strategy. Perhaps we could start by amassing a list (and videos?) of problems personally experienced (not "a friend of mine . . ." but rather "this happened to me")--factual without a lot of inflammatory language--to illustrate the problem that's apparently unknown to legislators.

* Short-term: Approach the bicyclists about "how can we work this out so that it works for all of us." Maybe have a level-headed rep from town meet with the head of their lobby/organization, and/or set up a booth in the town square on weekends to promote a dialog with the canyon bicyclists themselves and generate ideas to improve the situation for everyone--maybe manned by town bicyclists "who speak their language" or someone with a calm nature and mediating skills.

The sheriff's right--it's only going to get worse with more and more bicyclists. So rather than escalate into a Middle East-type war, how about if we try to be diplomatic and work within the law?

There will always be "bad apples" that we have to just treat like slow-moving RVs or "rocks in the road" as Sheriff Pelle said. But maybe we can do some things to keep that at a minimum.

I kind of feel bad for those poor cyclists. They have to ride down when it starts getting dark. We get to STAY!

Happy holiday weekend to you all. Where's the party, anyway?

It sounds like we could make Jamestown quite colorful:

* Video monitoring
* Fake dead cyclists on cattle guards
* Train horns mounted on cars
* Signs
* (Let's not involve the lions so they aren't involuntarily euthanized).

I recall a book for children published by British Rail advising on the dangers inherent in playing on train tracks, leaning out of moving trains, standing on the edges of platforms, etc. It was quite amusing, based on the best black humor (Monty Pythonesque), and probably saved a number of lives.

Of course if that doesn't work we could upgrade to German Black Humor...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV64lW0CTwI (a real but gruesome safety training video that you may want to forget but won't be able to).

Hey everybody - it's a beautiful day and not much is really going to change once we all get over our outrage at whatever we're outraged about. Let's count our blessings that we get to live here and that we have one another as neighbors and friends! Peace, love and harmony for all.