Hello,

just to let everyone here know an online march on the White House is taking place on the 29th August 2004 at 2PM US Central Standard Time, 7PM UK time.

This is in response to a call to action issed by the United for Peace and Justice coalition and will coincide with massive protests taking place on the same day on the eve of the Republican National Convention in New York.

Please do register to join with us by visiting http://www.livemarch.com/marchHome.jsp?marchID=19, just click on the "Join this Live March" button, then on "sign up now" and enter your details. People from around the world are registering to tell the rogue regime that the world says no to their agenda!

For more information please visit http://geocities.com/tellbushtheworldsaysno

Also, please spread the word about this action!

http://garyrobertallen.iuma.com TO SUPPORT THE PEACE MOVEMENT! "REMEMBER JOHN LENNON"

Check out my Peace-page:
http://www.davidssons.nu/peace/
Please sign the list with your name too.

Have we become so stupid and careless ?

 No wonder our politicians take us for a ride.

 I mean what kind of world this place is becoming.

 You cannot walk freely in the US after 9/11.

 Europeans don't want any more outsiders.

 The africans are sliting each others throats.

 The arabs are bombing Isreal.

 The Indians cannot go on honeymoon in Kashmir.

 The Chinese have hounded out the Tibetans.

 The koreans have millions on the border ready to fight.

 The Japanese are killing the whales all the time.

 The australians are being bombed in indonesia.

 The irish are still not stopped fighting.

 Everywhere there is violence and violence.

 But who is suffering ? Is we stupid. We the people.

 Not the politicians and business men.

 For them money takes care of most of these problems.

 Have you ever seen rich people being killed ?

 So ain't we stupid and careless by doing nothing about this.

 When will we rise up and take action ? Are our childrens safe
 today ?

 Its time for us to be smart and aware and not vote for people
 who even ignore violence leave aside support it.

 Don't you think if Al Gore was the president, there would be
 more intelligent solutions to the present situation in Iraq.

 The only way to stop Terror is by non-violence as preached
 by Gandhi and others of his ilk.

 Its a tragedy for this world that people such as Gandhi no
 longer exist or their voices blanked out.

 My previous message was Can Bush Stop this ?

 If for example, a lady carrying a perfume bottle in her
 bag is a terrorist. In the perfume bottle is not perfume
 but a biological weapon which can be sprayed.

 This lady flies and arrives at airports, sprays her stuff
 on herself and thus spread the same around. Before she did
 this she has been vaccinated. The vaccine is availble only
 to her.

 How can Bush stop this lady ? Any many such acts of terror
 so invisible. New ideas of terror will come up. Can he
 defeat all of them. How many innocents will die before Mr.Bush
 succeeds.

 Who is suffering here ? Its not Bush. Because the american
 taxpayers haved promised to secure him from terrorists.

 He can zip around the world in his private plane, yatch or
 ranch. Can we do the same in a world full of terror.

 So what is this world after all where people have to fear
 and live and then watch people die on TV with a popcorn
 bowl on our laps.

 Terror cannot be defeated by Terror. Who can stop this lady
 from carrying out her terror attack. Surely Mr. Bush cannot
 order all ladies to stop using perfume. Can he ?

 Its people like you and me who want to live a free and peaceful
 life. Lets not impose our values on others. If the iraqies are
 fed up they could have ended saddams rule themselves in 12 years.

 Anyway Saddam is not immortal and there could have been so many
 other ways of destroying him. But then if our vision is limited
 and intelligence brawny who can help.

 Lets come together and say no to violence. Not just in iraq but
 within ourselves. Gandhi taught us to vanquish the enemy within
 before the one outside. Every person has a dark side. As long
 as this exist, we cannot have a perfect world.

 And no amount of missiles or threats can vanquish such an enemy.

 Politicians all over the world divert people attention to further
 their own interests. And we fall prey.

 Are we so stupid ?

 1. American and British do not like shit. Each of your
    cities produces enough shit and you can use this as
    a weapon. Use your water cannons and other material
    throwers to fill shit stock and throw them at the
    advancing troops armour.

    The stench will not allow them to come out and as
    water is scarce, they will not be able to clean them
    regularly.

    Your enemies will get dis-oriented and retreat.

 2. Send thousands of unarmed civilians in army fatigues
    towards the advancing enemies. They will have no option
    to take them as POW. These civilians will eat and drink
    the precious rations of the soldiers and who will suffer
    as a result resulting in their not able to advance.

    Also send sick and old people so that they will have to
    use their medical resources in helping these people instead.

 3. Think of everything which the enemies do not like personnaly
    and use this as a non-violent weapon.

There is nothing you bitches can do to stop the war, motherfuckers. If you don't like it, go to hell.

you guys know that you wont be able to stop war, it will always be there.To haunt us in our dreams, to give us fear, and those iraq's are one of the ones trying to enforce that concept.Like plato said " only the dead have seen the end of war".

I was just wonderin'.
They say that this war on Iraq could cost upwards of half a trillion tax dollars. Knowing how government estimates run, we're talking a trillion if a dollar.. right?
Well, I wonder what would happen if we, instead, threw a trillion bucks at forming whatever it takes, think tanks, research, or...??? (there has to be something better) in order to find (or at least explore) new and better ways of settling these things rather than blowing fellow creatures to smithereens.
Just wonderin'.
If you're wondering too... feel free to pass this on to as many people you like (get a little email dialogue going on it)or we can just let the same ol' people tax us and spend our money on these tantrums, generation after generation, throwing babies out with bathwater.
Let's evolve already!
CR

Edited by author 02-08-2003 11:40 PM
I think we should target these sites first. That will show those tree hugging hippy liberals.

Hey can u tell these people that I need some stupid idiots to waste as well. They can contact me through the North Korean Government. Much appreciated.

two birds one stone, what better way, get rid of the protesters and an Iraqi gunners position or a radar site... Hopefully many silly/unemployed protesters will go!

Good point, one that Nader, understandably, avoids. But winning county assessor or whatever is a long way from getting elected gov or sen or even mayor of a large city. The two-parties will give up the short passes - but not the deep ones. Greens with ambition are better off joining Dems or Reps if they want a juicy seat in their lifetimes. imCYNo.

I disagree chico, Nader and the other third-party candidates would have more cred if they actually had some experience at governance. Win a few local races (which has already been done by libertarians, socialists, greens, and independants...even the natural law party) and then, here is the hard one, prove that you can work with other the rest of the governmental apparatus that does not necessarily share your axioms regarding how the world should work. Develop a track record at this and perhaps the rest of the world will take you seriously.

I think a broader "equal-time" requirement of media would be good, at least for house races...I've felt for a while that a new party was going to rise up as the dominant one in the US for a while, and leave the 2 current ones to fight over the pickings/eventually re-fuse again.

I'm very dearly hoping for that, and not an eventual Tyrant.