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02-26-2003 07:54 AM ET (US)
Politech has a number of responses to the article:

http://www.politechbot.com/p-04506.html
agraham999  11
02-26-2003 01:27 AM ET (US)
Good luck when the Feds visit you. In GW's administration...I wouldn't give them any reason to come over.
joh3n  10
02-25-2003 10:39 PM ET (US)
Well, I worked at Los Alamos for a summer (in TA-53, the article describes TA-33), and trust me, where the author sneaked in is hardly 'secure' by lab standards for truly secure areas. Every day, whilst coming into work, I had to go pass a guarded gate and show my badge. To get into any building, I had to swipe my badge through the card reader. The lab is immense, and portions of it are blocked only with barbed wire, as the article indicates, but trust me, those areas aren't the secure ones. And contrary to the article's implication, the guards that guard the truly 'secure' areas are armed, and rather well.
__xPerson was signed in when posted  9
02-25-2003 08:14 PM ET (US)
Dear Noah, whatch for blood in your urine and feces, and signs of your hair falling out.

"Nine tons of uranium-contaminated soil was removed from the area in 1999."

What a moron.
CraniacPerson was signed in when posted  8
02-25-2003 06:50 PM ET (US)
Feynman was a master performer. Always a good read, as is James Gleick's book about him.
Gary O'BrienPerson was signed in when posted  7
02-25-2003 06:38 PM ET (US)
Sneaking around Los Alamos was a fine tradition started by Richard Feynman during the Manhattan Project. And Feynman routinely played pranks by sneaking in secure areas and cracking safes just to piss people off.

Of course, so did Klaus Fuchs, but he wasn't trying to piss people off. He was stealing things, fat lot of good it did him.
Spook  6
02-25-2003 06:28 PM ET (US)
I'm familar with the area. And you didn't sneak anywhere. They weren't worried about you. The fact is the ground is littered with geothermal sensors (the same sensors used to detect earthquakes) and someone knew the second you crossed the fence. Anything secret is so secret you wouldn't even know when you walked into it.

A band of terrorist could walk across the fence and shoot of a dozen bombs without ever affecting the operations that go on there.
Higgins Whilshire IV, EsqPerson was signed in when posted  5
02-25-2003 06:16 PM ET (US)
I noticed this on MeFi... a poster who works at LA noted that he was hardly in a classified area. Qubit said 'What he did was equivalent to scaling the fence along the back lot of some military base. I'm thinking of the Arlington proving grounds for instance. It's fairly easy to do undetected and yes, you could do some damage. But there's not much you can do to seriously compromise national security before you're intercepted.' He also punches some holes in other observations by the reporter.
nixomatosPerson was signed in when posted  4
02-25-2003 05:58 PM ET (US)
hmmm...
Won't they arrest him?
Yakabunga  3
02-25-2003 05:40 PM ET (US)
The next challenge, Pine Gap. Secret (?) spy base in central Australia. Spies-R-Us downunder.
Dav ColemanPerson was signed in when posted  2
02-25-2003 05:37 PM ET (US)
Oh big deal, so he snuck into a building complex that is classified as "secure." In reality it probably is just classified wrong, not secured wrong. Maybe they're diverting security resources to more important areas of the compound now.
Eli the BeardedPerson was signed in when posted  1
02-25-2003 05:35 PM ET (US)
Funny and scary.
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