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Care about war. Care about conservation?

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view2001Person was signed in when posted
05-13-2011
02:39 AM ET (US)
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Steve YostPerson was signed in when posted
02-13-2003
12:18 PM ET (US)
 Regarding hydrogen-powered cars, Peter Kaminsky points out a link here: http://www.quicktopic.com/19/D/esddSRG9Wm6.html#QT_item_29
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Steve YostPerson was signed in when posted
02-13-2003
12:15 PM ET (US)
 So in the case of this building, we're asked to compensate for a builder's oversight with our own small collective actions (using the proper door).

Really effective conservation requires actions coordinated between the large and small scales -- some kind of leadership -- both demonstration of care and large scale actions -- and the cooperation of individuals. Is this way out of character for the U.S?
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david reevesPerson was signed in when posted
02-09-2003
10:55 PM ET (US)
 Does that make sense? I imagine our building could have shared the elevators and eliminated the atrium (if you're interested, here is a picture of the atrium in question. The elevators are on the left, out of view).

Anyway, the really salient theme is that as we prepare to go to war, the administration does so little to reduce our near-term dependence on foreign oil, save for a faraway and somewhat fantastic initiative to promote hydrogen-powered cars.
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Ben Hyde
02-09-2003
08:26 PM ET (US)
 The reasons for such buildings are described most amusingly in "edge cities", along with a number of other things such as why the art is banal. The reason for the large atriums -- to allow three building to share one elevator. That being the most expensive thing in the structure. The size of the individual buildings is based on theories about mgmt/labor ratios and how far americans are willing to walk. Silly, fun book.
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Steve YostPerson was signed in when posted
02-09-2003
07:04 PM ET (US)
Damn good point, David.

For anyone else reading, our building was built in the early dotcom era and has a giant glorious atrium that soars to the top level three floors up, topped by a large skylight. Hardly the model of efficiency (or safety with its marble floors in the wet-shoed winter).
Edited 02-09-2003 07:04 PM
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david reevesPerson was signed in when posted
02-09-2003
01:17 PM ET (US)
 I always thought the previous sign bore more than a faint whiff off hypocrisy; after all, would an organization really interested in conservation really build an office building with such an enormous atrium? I can't even imagine the oil used to heat the atrium alone during the winter, and to cool it during the summer.
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Steve Y.Person was signed in when posted
02-05-2003
11:15 AM ET (US)
 Regarding http://www.quicktopic.com/blog/archives/000205.html#000205
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