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Topic: ISP must reveal name of subscriber accused of "sharing hundreds of songs"
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noah  1
01-21-2003 03:55 PM ET (US)
okay, okay, you got me! I'll give them back, I'll re upload them (wait, you don't want me to do that)..I'll, I'll, I'll find some way to atone for the 600 copies of 'oops I did it again' I downloaded!
Matthew SturgesPerson was signed in when posted  2
01-21-2003 04:00 PM ET (US)
Six hundred perfectly good songs, almost lost to the world forever but for the brave actions of the RIAA.
KnitWit  3
01-21-2003 04:03 PM ET (US)
wait. DOWNLOADED 600 songs? According to her interview and everything I've heard, Hilary Rosen and the RIAA are interested in getting the people uploading files.

As far as I can tell any guy who searches out and downloads 600 mp3s is just a diligent worker.
Kalle  4
01-21-2003 04:13 PM ET (US)
How does one download 600 songs in one day? That's about 2.5GB of data. That's about 250kb/s, without interruption, for 24 hours. Hard to believe...
Hugh2d2  5
01-21-2003 04:19 PM ET (US)
Crap! Are they going to arrest me for listening to hundreds of songs on the radio without buying a cd first?
creetoPerson was signed in when posted  6
01-21-2003 04:25 PM ET (US)
Can you bite me now?
Good!
harharPerson was signed in when posted  7
01-21-2003 04:32 PM ET (US)
Service providers could do themselves and the rest of us a big favor by wiping their IP logs.

Or how about this: ISPs encrypt their logs using keys held in escrow by the EFF, and the EFF only decrypts a log to assist in criminal investigations where human life is at stake.

Until then, please wear an anonymizing service whenever you fuck the RIAA -- you don't want to get a disease, honey.
Chris Doyle  8
01-21-2003 04:46 PM ET (US)
I have a crush on Hilary Rosen. I want to download her.
roadknightPerson was signed in when posted  9
01-21-2003 05:05 PM ET (US)
Hilary Rosen == J. Edgar Hoover?!?!?!?
I always thought that whole going in drag thing was a conspiracy nutball rumor...
gfmPerson was signed in when posted  10
01-21-2003 08:34 PM ET (US)
Someone needs to post some Creative Commons songs on a P2P network and download them 1 million + times to get the RIAA riled up about nothing.

My music is CC licensed: http://www.mp3.com/gfm

Share, share away!!

Hint: rename my songs "Britney Spears: Hot, dripping wet" or "Aerosmith: Man do we suck" to get more downloads.
David MercerPerson was signed in when posted  11
01-22-2003 03:20 AM ET (US)
This is the point the former VP of my former (fucked) company said would never come, going after individual P2P users. I opined that it would only be a matter of time, under the DMCA.
I prevailed, and our (socially unfriendly, legally ass-covering) corporate policy for Napster et. al. became "leech only", as we didn't want to get sued when the storm clouds arrived.

Well, the clouds are here, and it's one time I really hate having been right. But there is hope, as the DMCA vastly alters the 'shape' of copyright law (Supreme Courts' term from the Eldred majority decision), as opposed to the just-upheld Bona Act, which merely alters its scope in time.

So, some bits in Eldred could be used to challenge the DMCA in a future test case (this one could be it, if argued correctly...individual consumers without financial gain haven't been liable for incidental copying ever before in the US...this is 'structurally' the same as a friend copying a tape, which the usual suspects hated, but no one ever was liable for.

I for one wouldn't mind an extension of copyright a BIT if P2P sharing was deemed legal!!

Lets take THAT message to Disney!
JohnRPerson was signed in when posted  12
01-22-2003 07:37 AM ET (US)
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JohnRPerson was signed in when posted  13
01-22-2003 07:42 AM ET (US)
(Darn decimals)

Lessee, 600 songs amounts to approximately 50 CD's worth, right (assuming they're extracted from MP3 format). Had he bought them outright, that would have been a purchase of about $850 or so. Artists get a cut of what, about 2-3% of each disk sold (if that), so they were denied their rightful profits of at most $25.50 total. $25.50 divided by 600 = .0425 (call it a nickel).

So if the evil downloader were to just forward a dime for each song to each artist he 'violated,' he'd be paying out double damages to those he stole from, everyone could go home, and RIAA would see justice served.
cypherpunksPerson was signed in when posted  14
01-22-2003 12:06 PM ET (US)
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Craniac  15
01-22-2003 12:09 PM ET (US)
Would anyone care to share tips about using Kazaa with an anonymizer?
 
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