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Danny O'BrienPerson was signed in when posted  1
03-10-2003 01:54 AM ET (US)
Subscribe to our mailing list, or the puppy gets it: the RSPCA and spam.
rODbegbie  2
03-10-2003 02:37 AM ET (US)
I noted that the spammail linked to a graphic thusly:

[IMG height=94 src="http://fireworks-rspca.lateral.net/benji_html_07.gif" width=215 NOSEND="1"]

(Aside: WTF is a "NOSEND" attr?)

Accessing http://fireworks-rspca.lateral.net/ informs you that the site is "RSPCA Fireworks Campaign. Images for HTML email."

And if you visit www.lateral.net (Using IE, since it don't work none in Mozilla. Silly, silly people), you can see that they were responsible for the RSPCA site design.

It may be well worth following up with them and finding out if they have any comments on their servers hosting graphics used in spam. (And also to find out if they were in any way connected with the spamming)

Allthebest,

rOD (http://groovymother.com/)

(Oh, and you've misspelt "integrity" on the RSPCA-sucks page)
Jeremy  3
03-10-2003 03:02 AM ET (US)
NOSEND tells Outlook Express and Outlook to explicitly link to the image and not send it embedded as a MIME part.

In other words, explicitly make the image a Web-bug.

(From http://p2p.wrox.com/archive/html_code_clinic/2001-05/35.asp).
Steve BartreePerson was signed in when posted  4
03-10-2003 07:11 AM ET (US)
Nobs. Would this be a good moment to call in some Proper Journalists. The angle to go for? Perhaps something like 'don't-care charity ruins plucky experiment in online democracy and then sends junk mail to random list of non-UK netizens, how would you like to receive junk from PETA US'?
Ben Hammersley  5
03-10-2003 09:34 AM ET (US)
Well, I am a 'proper' journalist...
Oh, what's this? A 700 word slot in thursday's Guardian? Oh my. How handy.

Danny - When you're awake can you drop me a line?
Danny O'Brien  6
03-10-2003 10:16 AM ET (US)
Lateral claim they don't know anything about this particular posting. They've put the onus on PHD IQ, the RSPCA's media buyer, who they say "purchased a list of (supposedly) UK-based cat and dog owners, and then used a third-party company to send the mail itself."
Danny O'Brien  7
03-10-2003 01:17 PM ET (US)
One more letter to the RPSCA:

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Private & Confidential
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:01:27 +0000
> From: David Bowles <DBOWLES@rspca.org.uk>
> To: <yoz@yoz.com>
>
> Private & Confidential
>
> To FaxYourMP.com volunteers,

[SNIP!]

> I hope that the
> measures we have agreed to take above satisfy the issues that you have
> raised in your email.
>

They did indeed, which is why we've not said much on the topic since.
Thank you for your assurances.

Unfortunately, they were a few other matters that you, in turn, failed
to raise with us at the time and which have now come to our attention.

A few days ago, a colleague mailed us a report that had been posted to
the newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.sitings. This is an Internet
discussion area that acts as a clearing house for spam reports.

Spam, as I'm sure you are aware, is a terrible blight on the current
Internet. Fly-by-night companies take money to send out millions of
unsolicited messages to addresses they have gathered using
indiscriminate methods (methods which are illegal under the EU's Data
Protection regime), often taking advantage of security breaches in
remote computers to do it.

Computer owners and ISPs together spend millions trying to hold back the
tide of these spam mails. Unfortunately, as long as there is money in
providing such a service, spammers will continue.

Mostly those paying for these mass mailing are less than reputable
types: which is why most spam today consists of unsavory pornography
come-ons, dodgy snake-oil salesmen, international banking scams and
under-the-counter pharmaceuticals.

Oh, and the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

The spam report we were forwarded (together with two more, links to
which I enclose at the bottom of this email), are of special concern tous. They are part of your campaign against fireworks and explicitly
mention how you, the RSPCA, will instruct those clicking on the mail how
to "fax their MP online".

I assume that it is our service that you are referring to here, and a
check of your site indicates that you do indeed link to us:

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/ContentSer...cleid=1024473499362

... although you appear to have removed this link from the page that the
spam points to, apparently quite recently.

It's nice to know somebody feels some degree of responsibility for their
previous actions. Nonetheless, the damage has already been done.

You have been indiscriminately mailing requests - and are continuing to
do so - requesting people to use our service. You have been spamming,
and implicating us in this behaviour by association.

I understand that whoever provided this service to you probably assured
you that your message was going out only to bona fide concerned British
citizens who would be curious to read about your fireworks campaign.
Should they try this line on you again, you may wish to ask them:

    1. Why, out of the three reports of spam that we have read so far,
    only one is in the UK (and its recipient says that he has never used
    this email account to grant any such permission)?

    2. Why the other two recipients are from the United States of
    America - one from North Virginia (which is famously unrepresented
    in the House of Commons), and the other from Texas (where fireworks
    are banned anyway)?

    3. Why, in such an above board operation, the service used to send
    the mail was registered in Guatemala, while the mailout company
    themselves harken from Boca Raton, Florida (outside of EU data
    protection controls)?

    4. Why, exactly, a respected charity such as the RSPCA chooses to
    send its campaign mails via, in turn, a dialup computer on the NTL
    network, and an unsecured computer somewhere in Argentina?

The first time you abused our free service, we were happy to forgive you
- organisations and individuals new to the Internet often fail to
understand some of the social niceties.

But this goes beyond the pale. Not only is spamming one of the worst
practices any organisation can indulge in online, but the degree to
which you have spammed indicates that someone, either within your
organisation or paid by it, was fully aware of what they were doing, and
did it anyway.

We really can't be associated with such a rogue organisation as yours.
We've banned the RSPCA from FaxYourMP. Users clicking to our site from
yours will be redirected to a message explaining why we felt this was
necessary.

As this is the first time we have banned any organisation from our
services, we felt it rather deserved a press release. My understanding
is that I should include the following contact details:

RSPCA: David Bowles, International and Campaigns Head, +44 nnnn nnnnn nn

That is, unless you have someone else who can provide a better
explanation for what has gone on here.

I'm not sure what you can do to correct this matter. With the best will
in the world, your assurances don't appear to count for much.

Those spam reports:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=E18qw...rlet.dcs.hull.ac.uk
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e82cn...WcjA%40giganews.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030...0cadeau.d-and-d.com

Yours sincerely,

Danny O'Brien
Ben Hammersley  8
03-11-2003 06:16 AM ET (US)
I just spoke to PHDiq, and they're calling me back, after one of those 'oh shit oh shit oh shit' moments. Undoubtedly this will be highly interesting.
Ben Hammersley  9
03-11-2003 06:30 AM ET (US)
And now choice quote of the day from the RSPCA press office:

"Spam? No? What's that?"


choooo-chooooo the cluetrain's a-comin'
Ben Hammersley  10
03-11-2003 08:31 AM ET (US)
Well, I've given them another 40 minutes to get back to me - I have to file pronto. They say, and I get the feeling this is an increasingly bad day for them, that they are preparing a joint statement from the RSPCA and PHDiq.
Ben Hammersley  11
03-11-2003 10:33 AM ET (US)
Their story is that they sent out two mailings. One to their own internal list and another to an opt-in list they bought. They claim that there was then a third, unauthorised, mailing, and it is this that is causing the problems.

hmmm
Steve Bartree  12
03-11-2003 11:10 AM ET (US)
In a slow-motion car crash way, I'm enjoying this no end.
Jim Hughes  13
03-11-2003 11:17 AM ET (US)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't mass mailings cost money?

Ergo someone somewhere has actually paid to send this spam. I can't believe there's a spammer with a conscience trying to help the RSCPA.
Ben Hammersley  14
03-11-2003 11:33 AM ET (US)
Jim, yes, I totally agree. I actually said this to them. "I don't believe you" - but I can't make it stand up. So I had to file copy with the RSPCA story intact. Frankly, I believe it to be bullshit. Not necessarily from the RSPCA, but from whoever is telling them what they did.

damn libel laws.
David Bowles  15
03-11-2003 11:43 AM ET (US)
Just to put the record straight, the RSPCA in no way condones ‘spam’ and we only ever use ‘opt-in’ lists if we are emailing people about our campaigns.

We are still awaiting an explanation from the company that we purchased the opt-in list from as to why this email was sent out to an additional and UNAUTHORISED email list. Just to recap, we DID NOT authorise this email.

We have never in the past experienced a problem of this nature and had no reason to believe we would have a problem this time. But we did experience a problem and we tried as quickly as possible to rectify it.

We apologise to anyone who received this UNAUTHORISED email and you have our assurance that we will not be using this list provider again.
Ben Hammersley  16
03-11-2003 12:04 PM ET (US)
There's David Bowles, he's the campaign head of the RSPCA, who I just spoke with.

Bravo for joining in, David.
rODbegbie  17
03-11-2003 12:17 PM ET (US)
Some more digging (I have a 3 hour database job running, so I've plenty of time to dick around with this!)

First up, I looked at the URL that links to the RSPCA site:
http://www.maxroi.us/cgi-bin/go/to.pl?l=768609rsp. "maxroi.us" is registered to a "Juan Ruiz" "in" Guatemala.

I tried rooting around in the cgi-bin folder, and found that if you go to http://www.maxroi.us/cgi-bin/go/to.pl, you get an error page from a CGI script called "LnkinLite".

Brief Detour: The error page tells you to email the webmaster at lnknlite@prcsmail02.us. A whois on prcsmail02.us tells us it is registered to a "Juan Ruiz", but this time, "he" "lives" in... wait for it... Florida, USA! Can you believe it? A spammer in Florida. [falls off chair in shock] "His" phone number is listed as +1.5617561405 Anyone wanna give him a call and find out more? (I would, but I don't remember the US equivelant of 141)
OK, doing a Google for LnkinLite brings us to
http://www.dtp-aus.com/cgiscript/lnkinlte.shtml. Toddle through the convuluted-as-all-hell download process, get the source, and look at how it works.

Apparently, the link number -> URL data file will be found in
http://www.maxroi.us/cgi-bin/lnkinlte/lnkinlte.dta ... Yep, there it is. A whole load of casino and Walmart associate links later, we see that 768609rsp points to:
http://track2.a1offerstoyou.com/clicktrack...2Euk%2Ffireworks%2F
a1offerstoyou.com? Oh christ, it's another Florida spammer.

That's where I'm at for now. Might install Nessus and see if there's anything more to be discovered about A1offerstoyou.com's site.

Laters,

rOD.

--
"So what do you do? Oh yeah, I wait tables too.
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>> Doing the blogging thang again at http://www.groovymother.com/ <<
Danny O'Brien  18
03-11-2003 01:30 PM ET (US)
Hi David -

I guess my question would be: what would be the name of this company that sent out the unauthorised mails? Is it PHD?

I'd really rather go after the guilty party here, as I've explained in my piece.

And, speaking with *my* "proper journalist" hat on, I notice from a quick search of my current spam file that another piece of obvious spam which uses the maxroi.us domain appears to be an advert - for BT Ignite. From a domain registered in Santiago, Chile.

I get the feeling that some major marketing company has been very, very bad.
Ben Hammersley  19
03-11-2003 01:56 PM ET (US)
According to a site I saw yesterday, and my notes, PHD's client list does include BT:

PHDiq:
newphd.co.uk/phdiq
Owner: Omnicom
Founded: 1997
MD: Howard Nead
Staff: 12
Declared billings: £6,450,000
Business split: 90% online; 5% iTV; 5% consultancy
Clients: HSBC, First Direct, BT, O2, Adidas, BMI, COI, The Guardian, BBC, Lastminute.com

The Telephone Exchange
5 North Crescent
Chenies Street
London
WC1E 7PH

T:020 7446 0555 F:020 7446 7100

Howard Nead Director of Screen Strategy
T: 020 7446 7208 Email: hnead@phdiq.co.uk
 
Ben Christie Director of Interactive Solutions
T: 020 7446 0336 Email: bchristie@phdiq.co.uk
 
Bijan White Director of Interactive Media
T: 020 7446 7221 Email: bwhite@phdiq.co.uk
Earle MartinPerson was signed in when posted  20
03-12-2003 08:45 PM ET (US)
Somebody better get the head-catching basket ready, I think.
Ben Ice  21
03-14-2003 12:29 PM ET (US)
I find it equally of interest that the larger corporate parent of PHDiq is none other than Omnicom. Would this be the same Omnicom as in The Omnicom Group, one of the largest Ad agencies in the world? My thinking is there might be a run on head-catching baskets if that is the case. Does anyone know how I can invest in a head-catching basket maker?
Ben Ice
editor
The Cert Times
www.certtimes.com/it/newsletter/current
G. Nome  22
03-14-2003 03:41 PM ET (US)
Who are these people, and why are they sitting at the end of my garden??
Chris Lewis  23
03-14-2003 06:55 PM ET (US)
Just blast the bitches in The Sunday Times. It's not like they don't deserve it. And then I'm sure their marketing department will actually find out what went on. Palming off responsibility to a third party is not a defence. Doors has printed some absolutely awful rubbish in their time, your rant will be a shining beacon through some of that fog. "Utter Total Scaremongering Paedos Are Getting Your Children Let's Violate Their Privacy Survey" ring any bells?
Paul Wright  24
03-14-2003 08:29 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-14-2003 08:31 PM
I was that masked NTK subscriber. Or at least, I assume I was. Anyway, the guys from SPEWS say that 64.26.22.49 (www.maxroi.us) is or was associated with something called havocmarketing.com http://spews.org/html/S1097.html

There are links to a couple of PCW articles on there about the guy who runs the business, who is called Ryan Dong. havocmarketing no longer resolves, so it may well be that the RSPCA stuff doesn't have anything to do with this guy. Still, possibly interesting nonetheless.
CeeBee  25
03-31-2003 03:03 PM ET (US)
I tried calling the number posted by rODbegbie - it rang but there was no answer. If anyone else wants to try, they can hide their number (and save money) by using a service such as www.freecalls.tk - dial 0870 794 6936 (or 0844 670 6936 for weekends) followed by the full international number (00 1-561-756-1405) at the voice prompt. Hope that helps!
Paul Wright  26
04-19-2003 10:20 AM ET (US)
Yet more "mainsleaze" from UK organisations who should know better. This time, the University of Liverpool has sent email advertising online degrees, using a spammer in Boca Raton (naturally) via servers in Panama.

http://www.google.com/groups?q=liverpool+t...&scoring=d&filter=0
Read it and weep. Please could you lovely folk from NTK and Teh Grauniad subject them to ritual public humilitation. Ta.
Henry Potts  27
04-22-2003 10:29 AM ET (US)
I got a spam today purporting to be from the World Wildlife Fund. I've just posted details to
news.admin.net-abuse.email under the title "WWF spam?". It came 'direct marketers' RB Express <http://www.rbexpress.org/>;.
 
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