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03-26-2003 01:35 PM ET (US)
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Sorry ... didn't specify a switch. It's a DPDT toggle switch with both poles in parallel to increase the current rating. Try a Radio Shack 275-663 or a Mouser 506-MTA206N. Only the + lead is switched.
Jim
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04-04-2003 10:48 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
Well, the amp project is complete. With the help of another ham, KG4YXR we fired it up today. The good news: No smoke! The not as good news: I am only able to get about 10-12 watts out of the amp after tweaking the Arco's. One thing we noticed was C5 and C17 are not .1uF, the part that came from Mouser ended up being a .01uF! Do you think this could be the problem... the closest thing we have found for a replacement has been some Caps from Radio Shack, but they are not 500WVDC, they are 50WVDC, but they do have the right capacitance rating (.1uF). Is this a good place to start? As soon as I am comfortable with the tuning I am going to post some pics to a website.
The project has been lots of fun, and I can't say thanks enough for the advise.
Take care, have a good weekend, KG4GEH
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04-05-2003 09:37 AM ET (US)
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Well ... that's not a bad start. C5 is OK with a .1 or a .01 it's just a bypass. C17 is for the RF activated relay, .1 is desired. If the relay pulls in with RF your OK. These won't have any effect on the output power. Regarding power output... Is the RF attenuator in place with the foil run cut? How much drive power do you have from your HT? What is the voltage and current rating of your power supply? How do the capacitors tune? I seem to recall one of the output caps being fairly tight (max). Tighten one and peak the other then alternate back and forth (pause in between) tuning for max power out. Are all of the through holes on the board pinned and soldered well? How about the emitter joints? Whenever one of the amps here had a problem my first action was to resolder the connections. Good Luck - If your still unable to get the power up send me your telephone number at WA1GPO@arrl.net or give me a call. I'm OK in the 'callbook' and telephone directory.
Jim
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04-05-2003 12:51 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
Thanks for posting a reply so quick! Good news then on C5 and C17, the relay seems to be working just fine. I do have the RF attenuator in place with the foils cut. My HT is a Yaesu VX-5R and according to my watt meter, it looks like I am sending about 4.5 watts to the amp. I have a 12V (13.6 or there about) power supply rated at 25 Amps. I did take the time to solder all 18 of the holes through the board with the z-wires.
I think my plan of attack is to go back and "dress-up" my solder joints and try re-tuning from there. One thing I better mention right now is the fact that I am using a CPU fan w/heatsink to cool my power transistor... it pulls about .06 Amps, but I may take it out of the loop and see if that improves the performance.
Thanks again for offering help via. telephone... even when this thing is done I may give you a shout just for a verbal thanks.
Take care, Shannon
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04-05-2003 07:22 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
Quick correction/update... After looking at my watt meter again, I realized that I was only getting about 8 watts, not the 10-12 I mentioned earlier. So I took the attenuator out of line and got an immediate 2watt increase in power... now I have a full 10 watts (a double in output, hey, that's something!) with roughly 4 1/2 watts coming from my HT.
Thought I would pass that on... I'm still hackin' away.
Thanks, Shannon
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04-07-2003 03:26 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
Alright! I think we are in business. Between two amps, we are seeing the following results.
KG4GEH(Mine) = 21 Watts KG4YXR = 25 Watts
Both at about 3.5 to 3.6 Amps. Actual power from the HT's is closer to 3.5 Watts.
Thanks again for your help, pictures are on their way (as soon as the amps are dressed up real nice, labels, flame tested, etc...)
Take care, Shannon
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04-07-2003 03:35 PM ET (US)
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OK Shannon ... sounds great, send the pictures when your done. With 3.5 watts drive you could change the attenuator to a -2dB pad which would increase the drive and the output a tad. What did you do to get the power up?
Jim
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04-07-2003 07:59 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
I took your suggestion and went back and tightened up the solder joints and shortened leads, etc. Had another ham, KE4LVT, make some recommendations on my coils (length,spacing) and went back through the tuning process. Same steps for KG4YXR.
One difference between the two amps is the fact that I do not have the attenuator in place on my amp... with 3.5 watts drive do you suspect this is why I am not seeing the same output?
Shannon
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04-08-2003 08:23 AM ET (US)
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Your output should not be lower without the attenuator. Have you checked the calibration of your wattmeter? How much drive does the HT measure on the meter? Can you check the SWR between the HT and the amplifier. It could be a bad cable or piece of RG-174 internal to the amplifier. Currents look normal, recheck the output tuning.
Jim
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04-17-2003 04:36 PM ET (US)
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04-17-2003 05:02 PM ET (US)
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Great - looks good! I see you have a fan to force some air. Do you have some sort of heatsink on the transistor? You need something to conduct the heat away.
Jim
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04-17-2003 10:12 PM ET (US)
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Jim,
Yes, the fan is actually a CPU fan plus heatsink out of an old 200Mhz computer. The power transistor sets into a hole in the heatsink. The amp has holes drilled in the bottom of the enclosure just below the CPU fan. Seems to work well, however I may be hearing a "slight" noise from the fan... further testing will tell.
Well, thanks again for all of the help... I see that there is a link to a "HF" amplifier project to the left of this message board under "TekTalk". I am studying for my General ticket (written and morse) so who knows whats next!
Take care, Shannon
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04-25-2003 04:48 PM ET (US)
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Jim, I was wondering if I could solicit your help once more. I have a radio control transmitter that I would like to increase the power out put on. The schematic is at the following URL: http://www.linearfusion.com/images/tx_schem.jpgIf you have time and don't mind this kind of thing, do you see a quick trick to increased power output? Thanks, Shannon
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04-27-2003 10:43 AM ET (US)
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04-28-2003 10:46 PM ET (US)
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Jim, thanks again for the useful information!
Shannon
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12-02-2003 11:50 PM ET (US)
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I just got a catalog and in it there is a dual band amp for boosting an HT's power. Does any body know if such a device is worth buying? Thanks
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