If you want to see some more, rent the film Baraka. There is a series of shots there. I think the shots may have been reused in the Beastie Boys video for "Somethings Got to Give."

I think a new print of Baraka is making the rounds of art house theaters. It will be at Cinema 21 in Portland OR sometime in January. Well worth seeing on the big screen.

The boneyard is also in the genre film "World Gone Wild" from the late '80s. Here is the comment I posted at MeFi in this same thread:

"I've mentioned this in another thread, but I was an extra in an '80s Road Warrior style rip-off with Adam Ant and Bruce Dern called World Gone Wild, which was filmed mostly in the AMARC. I haven't watched it in years, but there are some pretty cool shots of a bunch of post-apocalyptic ruffians running around with choir boy outfits riding dirt-bikes, chanting to Adam Ant as their leader in the midst of the hulking wreckage of these military aircraft. Possibly worth a look if you want to see this stuff in a cinematic (I use the term loosely) setting."

More colour pictures of the boneyard at the official web page:

http://www.dm.af.mil/AMARC/aerial_gallery.html

PURGATORY: Thousands of decommissioned aircraft sit in an Arizona dessert awaiting their fate.

Dali would've loved that image. A giant strawberry shortcake, maybe?

Edited by author 01-06-2003 11:45 PM
I lived in Tucson for almost 10 years during the 80's and on two occasions had a chance to tour the place. The nice thing about these tours is you have an almost complete reign of the place. I took the oppurtunity to crawl into old U2's, B-52, and Koren War fighters.

The stangest part of my experience was watching all of these british "geeks" spend the entire time doing nothing else but tabulating all of the planes into their tape recorders.

The second time I went I wandered the entire place listening to the old industrial band Throbbing Gristle on my headset while stoned. It proved to me the most "industrial" thing I could do at the time. Very strange, but lots and lots of fun.

Planet P: http://planetp.cc/

Edited by author 01-07-2003 02:51 AM
I've heard that the aircraft were purposely placed in plain view for Soviet spy satellites, whether as a show of force or as a show of that force having been mothballed. Of course, economically speaking, you can't house them all in hangars, and it's cheap insurance not to destroy them for scrap: there's reason enough for the way they're arranged without considering Soviet viewability.

Still, I've never been able to get over the similarity between that idea and the Union and Confederate troops being able to see each other's campfires the night before a battle. "Sleep well, we'll kill each other in the morning."

(later) Oh, hey, Foo, dig the notice in red at the bottom of the page at http://www.dm.af.mil/AMARC/info_guides.html.

Edited by author 01-07-2003 07:23 AM
Well I guess I'm johnny on the spot as I live in Tucson :-)

There are SEVERAL, not one, bone yards at Davis-Monthan AF base here, the one's they DON'T let you wander through freely on tours have aircraft that are still mostly functional, like rows of A-10's with meticulous dust-tight shrouds covering all of the engine and other intakes, so they can be put back into service quickly if need be...cheaper to semi-mothball excess older planes than keep them in continuous repair...mostly a staffing cost issue I hear. (My fiancee was an AF brat, her dad was an accountant at DM back in the day when she lived on base).

I heard that last time they dusted off any was Gulf War I, which is how the locals knew that Iraq was in the shit for real, and haven't heard if they've brought any back into service yet during the current buildup...during the Clinton era you could tell we were serious about silliness in the Balkans when the A-10's flying over town had been re-painted to more marine-like color schemes from their default dark green a few weeks before stuff hit the news that we'd "finally decided" to start attacks.

I'll have to ask some of the AF geeks at the local espresso bar near my place if they're doing that, although with the advent of JDAM's I'm not too sure they'll need to.....

(That now-deleted message was by me, not Patrick. Reposting now to get the attribution right.)

I drove through the boneyard ... good grief, that was more than twenty years ago. I remember it as strange and spooky, and at moments beautiful.

It helped that I went there with my friend Tim Kyger, a former Air Force brat who loved the old planes and could call each model off by name, with running commentary about their crotchets and virtues. Seeing it through his eyes staved off any creeping post-apocalypse blues.

As Tim explained it to me, Davis Monthan originally began mothballing planes because they could. I got the impression -- perhaps incorrect -- that the boneyard didn't start out as a formal project. It was just a good place to stash old airplanes that might otherwise get junked because the Air Force no longer had hangar space for them. The desert there is flat, dry, and firm -- you can see from the aerial photos that most of the boneyard's unpaved -- and the planes will keep there as well as they would anywhere that's out of doors.

The wingtip-to-wingtip bombers are the most striking feature when you're looking at it from the air. When you're up close and on the ground, there's all kinds of weird old interesting stuff that Air Force personnel couldn't bear to get rid of.

AMARC also store civil airliners, but the most common place for those is Mojave Airport, CA (MHV) -- http://www.mojaveairport.com/

The current gag amongst airline employess (and I've even seen T-shirts) is that United and American are opening a new "Super-Hub" at MHV, which is why all thier planes are flying there.

Commerical A/C don't sit in the desert like Military A/C do. Most are sold, parted out, or scrapped in a relativly short time. There are a few, though, that just sit. Rugged planes end up as freighters (see the UPS DC-8s and the FedEx DC-10s.) Not-so-rugged planes end up, well, as soda cans.

At AMARC, one of the things they do is SALT compliance. Part of the SALT treaties limited the number of long range bomber we could have. We had to destroy them in a manner that was provable "by national technical means." That last is fancy talk for "Satellites."

So, old B-52s fed into the SALT maw would be chopped into a few peices by a 18,000 lb. guillotine, and left lying in the desert for three months, so the Russian sats could have a look-see. Then, they'd be salvaged for metal. Of course, this didn't leave much for spare parts, so now AMARC is trying out just cutting them apart, sealing the sections, and leaving them out for the cameras, then salvaging parts.

Remember: Most of the B-52s flying today are older than thier pilots. There's a reason they call them "A mass of spare parts, flying in loose formation."

Edited by author 01-07-2003 10:39 AM
Oh, yeah. Here's MHV's storage area from 1994 -- it's much busier now, and a closeup. The row of larger A/C on the left look like DC-10s, though they might be L-1011s. The smaller A/C above them, and the bunch behind them (center pic) look like DC-9-10s and DC-9-30s, with three DC-9-50s or MD-80s at the back of the back, twoard the right. In the "box" at the lower right, they're breaking apart aircraft -- looks like a couple of C-135s are in there, as well as a DC-9 and a Gulfstream type. Above, in the smaller box, sits a Boeing 707.

(Edited to fix 2nd URL)

David Mercer's message (/m7) reminded me of this thing I've read about
several times in nerves (one was mentioned in boingboing). Nerves will
show a "readiness potential" to fire a half second or so before a
concious choice is made to move a muscle.

The repainting of the planes prior to war being announced sounds like
the same thing.

Don DeLillo has a remarkable passage about this place in his novel Underworld.

Do you know were I can get a photo of a B-25

Do you know where I can find two grounded Dc-3's they will
never be flown. Do not need engines or radio equipment.
Can be reached at timandamy@aczonline.net

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