9 clerks in St. Joseph, MO has been excessed to the KC Plant which is 60 minutes drive time for them. The good thing is that the PO will pay for their mileage and I'm not sure whether this is a reassignment/temporary thing for them. But all in all... they are upset!

also, casuals are being layed off in numbers at the KC plant because of downsizing, realignments and abolishments.

who cares about casuals?

You would if you were in a position of your job possibly being threatened. Management will try everything in the book to use a casual instead of a career employee. Our super uses casuals intead of the OTDL. Steward filed and employees got a make up day for OT. Super did it again but employees got paid instead of a make up day. You will see one day!!

tommy if they use casuals instead of the OTDL you should never get a make-up it should always be payment. Make-ups are BS my facility would give them out any day but we demand payment and it is a MOU in the contract one of the few with a set remedy.

We had a rookie steward and she is learning. Next grievance, management did try the make up thing again. She stood firm and the employees got paid. Casuals got a little peeved about not getting OT. Steward reminded them of what their job description says. These are the over 5 years as a casual group. You know, the ones that feel they are PTFs. Just keeping it real.

anyone here work the salt lake city plant?

Edited by author 05-25-2009 01:06 PM
I have never seen anything like recent times in 25 years at the Post Office. I realize mgmnt is in full force taking advantage of the situation... but this is a price we have to be willing to pay for now.. until the public forces USPS to weed out the dead weight (in all positions). I am a carrier have always been and a brother in what the union *used to be*... but we have to get together and keep this thing alive or we'll all be out of work. Contract or no contract, Constitutional amendment or not.

Those who would put the Postal Service asunder are adept at reinterpreting things like "the government will oversee the sanctity of the mails..."

We have to work harder than ever. Sell our services more than ever. Be polite and take a "customer is right" attitude and have an appreciation for their doing business with us for each letter mailed. And we need to be aware of what will happen should the P.O. go bye bye... so we can warn people ahead of time.

USPS insures delivery everywhere every business day plus Saturday plus Sunday (in some circumstances) for Express mail. Shortened delivery weeks to just business days will happen for all delivery operations should USPS go by the wayside. And there is no doubt the further away from business or population hubs one is, the higher the cost of delivery charged them (if they are even served at all).

Rates will go up automatically and people will be charged for pick ups and deliveries like cell phone service is today. Each and every service provided will be charged a fee for, including mileage. Norman, OK is further out than OK City...

Free email (which is really only free after you buy a computer, pay for the electricity it uses, and pay for an internet service provider) will begin to be taxed (once USPS is not longer a viable alternative). Then the cable companies and phone companies will have to raise rates and maybe even charge fees per email (including spam). Like we currently pay for commercials with cable, for example.

Once the Postal system is dismantled more than it already is, it's gone. To rebuild it would take billions possibly trillions. And the government would no longer have it's finger on the pulse of commerce. Yes, we keep the avenues of commerce open, flowing, fair and affordable (for the most part). The good ol' boy network of the mega rich will put everything out of business that aren't in their club (just like Bechtel did in the Irag war [Afghanistan wasn't profitable enough for them] just like AIG and other phantom financial industries have done).

USPS is not the dinosaur it is made out to be. It is the hard file copy system to back up the unreliable electronic systems we have placed so much faith in... USPS is the analogue gage rather than the digital idiot light on your dash board. The balance of both is the best for both worlds. We still have advertisers and parcels to deliver even if most first class is lost to email...

And what private agency can be trusted with voting ballots? Or at what great cost $$ ?

We have some dead weight to shed. No doubt. And some retooling to do ourselves. Maybe even revert back to walking routes (which it's grand to be paid to exercise and be healthy and feel better... I've done both and been in lousy and great shape from our job). Go back to the natural gas llv's walk out (relay routes), etc. But we must first get or keep the customers on our side.

And any attitudes (like the ones Megyn Kelly spoke of on Fox News Friday 5-22-09) must be dealt with by us (if true)... because their bad attitudes represent the rest of us and risk taking food and shelter away from our families. A lesson for us all!!!

Good day, brothers and sisters! :)

First postal reform in 1970 forbids USPS from ever charging for anything like home delivery that PO Dept was doing for free. Different rates for 1st class has been rejected by rate makers as way too confusing for the public. Priority and Express used to have 8 or 9 zones like PP---flat rates work better, easier to market to public.

No matter how hard crafts work, Mgt gets the rewards so why do it? Customer is not always right as every carrier and window clerk knows. We got laws we must follow even if customers don't know or like it.

Let's start the email tax to save PO rumor again.

Edited by author 05-25-2009 03:08 PM
The Postal office does NOT PAY MILEAGE FOR BEING EXCESSED. SOMEONE IS LYING TO YOU. If it is temporary yes but that is not excessing...bad way to describe what is going on in your plant. It is called a detail.

Has anyone heard when or if the D.P.S. machines are leaving Elmira? Does anyone know who the next Postmaster of Elmira New York will be?

has anyone heard any news about utica ny?

Dallas plant going down and the Amarillo, TX plant is next.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Fire all you postal sloths!