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05:52 PM ET (US)
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Will RobinsonPerson was signed in when posted
12:11 PM ET (US)
This is laughable but is there some kind of SOP on these "closures/consolidations?"

You realize, of course, that the USPS actually does have SOP to fit any situation. It's abbreviated FUBAR.
Gmf Clerk
12:25 AM ET (US)
I agree with X-Stew. Ask questions at meetings. The Salt Lake facility will eventually absorb 3 maybe a 4th closing facilities mail. They started building a new building for the ASF last year. It's suppose to partially open next week. We have heard so many different things about this facility. And with it possibly opening next week we haven't heard a concrete on how it will all work. The gmf here runs flats.nthey will be moving to the new building. They will be mostly ran by mail handlers. Where as at the GMF clerks run it. We haven't found out if we'll have to run back and forth?
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
05:16 PM ET (US)
/m2968 First, read union boards, go to meetings, talk to stewards for best info. Nothing beats a Q&A at a meeting to bring everyone up to speed. Don't listen to co-workers or bosses since the info's going to change right up to when it happens. And even the union will have few rock-solid answers because people will bid/tranfer/retire and create changes.

If big facility has your craft there already, the people from one facility at a time will be reassigned [which order is up to locals]. They'll usually be detailed to jobs for 6 months, after which they'll get their current seniorities restored and be able to bid on vacancies as they come up. If the bldg is vacant, then all jobs should go up at once.

When I've seen a plant closed, they took everyone out as of a Friday, then brought in 5-10 PO guys with TT trucks to remove the equipment to a PO warehouse over the weekend.
10:42 PM ET (US)
/m2962 This is laughable but is there some kind of SOP on these "closures/consolidations?" My plant is on the list and no one seems to know what is going to happen. Three small facilities are going to go to one large facility. How does seniority factor in, as in, does it depend on which small plant they close first or do they do them as a group...does it go by plant seniority or postal (transfers) seniority...have the AMP studies been somewhat correct in the number of people that will stay at losing facility...etc...very confused.
Rtn2SenderPerson was signed in when posted
12:31 AM ET (US)
If you would only have TWO clerks I still think you would have 6 janitors. A janitor told me once that janitor staffing is decided by Sq.Ft. of building, not by how many employees occupy the building. Sq.Ft. never changes so I guess janitor staffing never does. If the building ever totally closes a janitor will be the last one out the door.
Edited 07-10-2014 12:32 AM
06:55 PM ET (US)
they consoladated 17701 pdc 6/1/13. now after many function 4's we are overstaffed. they are excessing 5 more clerks. we will have 20 clerks and 6 janitors.
this is the postal way. 6 janitors for a building that is only 33 percent used.
Cali to ColoPerson was signed in when posted
05:26 PM ET (US)
You got me with the cat reference. I tried to transfer to Colorado as a clerk, but had to come as a carrier.
Bluestar ratedPerson was signed in when posted
04:38 PM ET (US)
To be fair Cali....as a mailhandler in a plant there would be very few that would excell on a transfer from the cozy indoors to a carrier position (including myself). Indoor cats are "indoor" for a reason! The carrier craft has my respect as they have to actually "work for it" everyday.
Cali to ColoPerson was signed in when posted
04:27 PM ET (US)
Bluestar, I did find your last comment funny, but X-stew's information that APWU won a grievance that the p.o. cannot force a clerk into a position where they would FAIL is a relief. Many are worn and injured, and even some HEALTHY and STRONG CCAs can't hack it.
Bluestar ratedPerson was signed in when posted
02:10 PM ET (US)
/m2960: not sure "what" the choices would be but if the past consolidations are any measure a distant commute seems likely. VER/VSIP offers for those crafts affected at losing and gaining facilities would be needed to "trim the ranks" in order to accomodate the additional positions needed. /m2961: just curious......what issues would plant clerks encounter that would dis-qualify them from delivering mail? hard work? he-he
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
12:13 PM ET (US)
"No way" just got easier. APWU won grievance where clerks who aren't qualified to carry, can't be forced over. They must be able to carry before they get moved.

Don't know if this will lead to RIF or clerks excessed 1,000 miles or what since we all know some will never be fit.
Cali to ColoPerson was signed in when posted
11:35 AM ET (US)
Bluestar, others would say "no way", but what chance (if any) would one of those tough choices be to go into the carrier craft? Any others may respond, of course.
Bluestar ratedPerson was signed in when posted
07:23 AM ET (US)
/m2958: More a move of "processing" operations within many of the larger facilities on the lists. The "distribution" of mail processed for delivery for zip codes that are served by those buildings would more likely continue through those dock doors (cross-docking operations). Smaller facilities would be more likely to be closed altogether. So if you are a processing clerk or mailhandler and your mail is being moved to another plant and you are not among the most senior in your current plant you will be facing some tough choices.
Rtn2SenderPerson was signed in when posted
11:18 PM ET (US)
Since I'm retired now perhaps someone can fill me in on these Phase 2 consolidations. The media reports these as closures. Are these going to be 82 full closures with everyone being excessed, or merely partial consolidations with some employees remaining at the facilities to do residual duties?
Edited 07-04-2014 11:18 PM
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
05:05 PM ET (US)
/m2952 You're only about 40 years too late with that 'new' idea because PO used to have mandatory retirement age of 70 way back then.
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