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Tres agavesPerson was signed in when posted
10:03 PM ET (US)
Colorado Springs date changed from 11 July to TBD. Our upper management just can't figure out how to get this done. I wonder when the blinding incompetence in the USPS will make it into the awareness of the public or political class.
Will Robinson
08:11 PM ET (US)
/m3116 What a story, Herb1013. I can see the clerks and carriers in my mind. You're describing an important part of American history.
02:52 PM ET (US)
02:50 PM ET (US)
hahahahaha FU Akron!
TheRealIssaPerson was signed in when posted
11:49 AM ET (US)
Wausau WI date changed from TBD to 25 Apr 15. This was posted on the 24th of Apr. Sure glad the PMG and the rest of idiot management could give the employees enough lead time. What a joke.
AkutanPerson was signed in when posted
08:48 PM ET (US)
/m3116 No automation back then.
Bouncy ClerkPerson was signed in when posted
04:11 PM ET (US)
DMarieM, best of luck to you & your family!! My family has been/is being held hostage for years over this crap. The 'closed' plant my husband left on 21 day reassign is magically still open as a newly created 'annex' & nearly everyone junior to him has been offered retreats. I want so badly to have him give up the ghost because he just keeps getting hurt over & over by all this. It's done a number on our marriage, to say the least. I finally got the tranfer I've been waiting 8 yrs for & I had to temper my excitement because it just seemed like salt in the wound.
Will MunnyPerson was signed in when posted
12:18 PM ET (US)
/m3116: outstanding post. My grandfather died in the early 70's, was a railway clerk. Wish he'd lived to 100 so I could hear the tales. One thing I do know - saw it long ago and heard the rest from way before: most important, bar none, thing was: all the mail delivered. The booze flowed like a river back then but no problem unless the mail didn't get out. My father once told me that during the Depression, PO was considered - then as today - a lucky break and a real good deal. Except of course in places like NYC, where cost of living made carriers eligible for food stamps. Having such a job in a low-cost rural area then was like manna from heaven.
11:52 AM ET (US)
Does anyone on this forum have any verifiable news about what is going on with the Dayton, Ohio P&DC? Trying to get any news or updates out of management or the union is like pulling teeth around here. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks !!
09:48 AM ET (US)
April 18th here we come, unassigned regular status
TheRealIssaPerson was signed in when posted
09:47 AM ET (US)
Product of public education.
Erie PA
12:12 AM ET (US)

New consolidation listing out today (10th). 30 plants dps operations are now TBD status.
12:06 PM ET (US)
All of this was really not needed. But after the strike of 1970 managers thought they knew everything.Here is how it was and should be now.
Back in the 50s every Post Office in Ameria was open 24 hours a day. Most Post Office only closed on Sunday night. Ours in Kearny, N.J. closed at 9 pm and opened at 3 am Monday morning.The main reason it closed was for cleaning and to get employees out of the way.There were 125 employees made up of the Postmaster, Assistant Postmaster and 5 clerk supervisors.There was only one Foreman of Delivery and Collections. He was the Letter Carrier boss. Each PO was staffed by 3, 8 hour shifts of APWU clerks. They were given over time as needed. Letter Carrier routes were adjusted to as close to 8 hours as possible. They were also given over time as needed. Our office had 44 foot routes, 4 parcel post routes and 2 truck routes with a total of 65 Letter Carriers. If my memory is any good, there was 1 substitute Letter Carrier for every 5 routes. In our 2 town delivery area, Kearny and North Arlington,NJ 2 trucks collected mail 2 times a day at 5 and 9 PM from all the collection boxes in 2 towns.At 5 pm one truck was used to pick up money, registered mail and regular mail from each of the 2 PO branches and 3 contract stations.He was also armed with a PO 38 caliber handgun. In later years the USPS took firearms out of our PO. There had been a firearm in each money and stamp safe in our office. We now had a police escort to each branch office or contract staion to pickup the days receipts and registered mail. The City Carriers collected from the collection boxes on their routes as they made their deliveries.The mail was bought back to the PO in hampers that were wheeled off the trucks and into the PO ,to the faceing table. The collection letter carriers then faced the mail as one of them ran it through the cancelling machine. After it was cancelled and put in trays it was given to each of the outgoing mail clerks. Each of these clerks had been trained in their outgoing mail sceme. The outgoing mail from each PO was picked up by the dispatch truck that ran a route picking up and deliverig mail to each PO on their route. The dispatch drivers did this 8 hours a day taking their lunch in a swing room of a PO on their rute. Most of the dispatch hubs were in large cities that had a railroad station and sometimes an airport. Mail was sent long distances by train using railway Postal clerks who sorted mail for all the towns on the trains route in a railway PO car. When the train came to a town station the mail was dropped off and more mail was picked up for towns further on that trains route. If the train was an express a satchel was hung on a hook and passed to another hook mounted on a pole at each railroad station. That mail was then taken to the local PO by either a postal employee or a contractor. Outgoing mail from that station was picked up on the fly the same as the drop off. Then as the train sped on to the next town the clerks sorted the mail for the next towns on the route. That way mail that was mailed today could be delivered tomorrow. For instance our dispatch started at the Newark PO. Newark had both a railroad station and an airport for mail to come in on planes and trains. The Newark clerks sorted the mail to towns served by the dispatch trucks. Our dispatch started at Newark then to the Harrison PO. Then on to Kearny, Lyndhurst, Rutherford, East Rutherford, Carlstadt, Wood-Ridge, Hasbrouck Heights and finally ended at Hackensack,N.J. where there was another railroad station. Then the dispatch driver turned around and did the route again. Going back and forth for his 8 hour day. There were thousands of these hubs and dispatches throught out America. There were 3 ways that each Letter Carrier got to their route. Many just walked out of the post office to their route that started close by. Some carried a satchel for their mail while others used a 4 wheel push cart. Others walked out then waited for a bus to take them to their route. Others had what was called a drive-out agreement with the PO. The drive-out agreement back then was for 25 cents a mile, 10 cents for the each relay that the carrier took with him and 10 cents for each move of the carriers car as he moved to different delivery points on his route. Mail was delivered by Letter Carrier to every door in America using a $55 pair of shoes that lasted for over a year before new shoes were needed. In my opinion the only mistake made by the PO back then was not supplying a mail push cart for every Letter Carrier. Many Letter Carriers paid for that mistake with a disability from carrying an over loaded mail satchel. There was a 35 pound weight limit but each section was delivered as it was bundled and no one on the street had a scale to weigh each bundle of mail. Besides if there were 74 homes on a section to be delivered and mail totaled 45 or 50 pounds, inspectors made you take all the mail for that section. Had they let you take 35 pounds you might have gotten to house number 50 then deadhead back to your car for the next 10 or 15 pounds then deadhead back to where you left off. But dead heads were a no no. So that caused many Letter Carriers to carry over the 35 pound limit and caused their neck,shoulder and arm injuries. This story is not finished yet. But will be before I leave this earth.
leebrenPerson was signed in when posted
11:27 AM ET (US)
/m3114 What a mess. I feel for you. Best wishes to you in your new location.
10:55 AM ET (US)
The clerks in our office were also notified at the last second this week that our consolidations are on hold indefinitely. Unfortunately all the mail handlers are already assigned new jobs, found housing etc at the new location. They have not been told that it's changing. As a clerk and the wife of a mail handler I used the 21 day e-reassign to follow my husband. By doing that I gave up retreat rights. So either way we have to go. Tomorrow is our last day in the old office. Honestly I'm glad. This whole thing is such a mess. We have been held in the air for several years. I'm ready to just go and get on with our lives.
09:46 AM ET (US)
Issa, I see English is your second language. There are classes you can take to improve your use of English.
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