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Eli the Bearded  1
12-12-2002 02:33 PM ET (US)
The female monkeys were drawn to the pot because it was
pink? What if there was a pink Barbie car in there, I wonder.
Higgins Whilshire IV, EsqPerson was signed in when posted  2
12-12-2002 02:35 PM ET (US)
I blame the schools for the monkey gender oppression. No wonder there is so many monkey knife fights.
lulu the child psychologi  3
12-12-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)
I actually did the same experiment but with kids and found also that there is a predisposition to gender specific toys... The kids who didn't have a firm sexual identity however (which is usually developed by the age of 4) seemed to choose the opposite sex specific toys as much as the ones for their own gender.
mrmPerson was signed in when posted  4
12-12-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)
How would monkeys determine that a doll or a pot is a female toy, while a car or ball is a male toy? What rational explanation can this scientist offer to show a gender bias when providing abstract toys like this?

If the scientist spoke a language with gendered nouns, would the interpretation be different? Speaking German, I think the monkeys playing with cars are androgynous.
Eli the Bearded  5
12-12-2002 05:52 PM ET (US)
The claim is that cars and balls are male because they are
movement related.

The doll is female for nurturing reasons, the pot is female
because it is pink.
Hannah KincaidPerson was signed in when posted  6
12-12-2002 07:09 PM ET (US)
I haven't been able to find a trustworthy link that nails it down with any certainty, but I'm under the impression the blue/pink code is a product of the 20th century and has its roots in Victoriana. Remarkable of the monkeys to pick up on that... Good, churchgoing monkeys, I'll bet.
Eli the BeardedPerson was signed in when posted  7
12-13-2002 03:27 PM ET (US)
Blue and pink is recent, culturally. It used to be red was
for boys (a good color, strong like blood) and blue for girls.
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