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12-13-2002 09:39 PM ET (US)
I do wonder what would have happened, as an earlier poster remarked, if the car or ball were red or pink. Also, what makes a pot offer less options for active play? I can think of plenty of ways to propel it through space. My final thought - since monkeys don't cook, and thus the pot would have no cultural significance for them, does this mean that men and boys are genetically less likely to use containers or objects with handles?

There must be more to the study than what is avaiable via this link, because even Aggies couldn't really be making these claims.
Eli the BeardedPerson was signed in when posted  7
12-13-2002 03:27 PM ET (US)
Blue and pink is recent, culturally. It used to be red was
for boys (a good color, strong like blood) and blue for girls.
Hannah KincaidPerson was signed in when posted  6
12-12-2002 07:09 PM ET (US)
I haven't been able to find a trustworthy link that nails it down with any certainty, but I'm under the impression the blue/pink code is a product of the 20th century and has its roots in Victoriana. Remarkable of the monkeys to pick up on that... Good, churchgoing monkeys, I'll bet.
Eli the Bearded  5
12-12-2002 05:52 PM ET (US)
The claim is that cars and balls are male because they are
movement related.

The doll is female for nurturing reasons, the pot is female
because it is pink.
mrmPerson was signed in when posted  4
12-12-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)
How would monkeys determine that a doll or a pot is a female toy, while a car or ball is a male toy? What rational explanation can this scientist offer to show a gender bias when providing abstract toys like this?

If the scientist spoke a language with gendered nouns, would the interpretation be different? Speaking German, I think the monkeys playing with cars are androgynous.
lulu the child psychologi  3
12-12-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)
I actually did the same experiment but with kids and found also that there is a predisposition to gender specific toys... The kids who didn't have a firm sexual identity however (which is usually developed by the age of 4) seemed to choose the opposite sex specific toys as much as the ones for their own gender.
Higgins Whilshire IV, EsqPerson was signed in when posted  2
12-12-2002 02:35 PM ET (US)
I blame the schools for the monkey gender oppression. No wonder there is so many monkey knife fights.
Eli the Bearded  1
12-12-2002 02:33 PM ET (US)
The female monkeys were drawn to the pot because it was
pink? What if there was a pink Barbie car in there, I wonder.
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