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Kerk  5416
01-12-2009 01:49 PM ET (US)
I wish I knew how to get my phone number changed. Nothing I have tried works so I no longer have a land line at # 110 Cow . I wanted to change to my cell number which is all I will have from now on.
JTA  5417
01-13-2009 11:25 PM ET (US)
I hope you've got a lot of dry firewood I Bob! Brrrrrr.
phil  5418
01-14-2009 08:05 AM ET (US)
JTA , Sorry to hear the news. My condolences to Joan and yourself.
   5419
01-14-2009 07:02 PM ET (US)
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LBoyden  5420
01-14-2009 09:39 PM ET (US)
Jim and Joan,

What a beautiful picture of Tilly. We full well know how they find a place in your heart. Hang on to the good memories.

LB
   5421
01-16-2009 01:58 PM ET (US)
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Bob Probst  5422
01-16-2009 02:55 PM ET (US)
It ain't going to happen
go wireless with Verizon
the cell on Mountoboro neck road
or the cell NW of wolfboro, NH

-- QT - cowislguy <qtopic-18-2DcQnXwaD2qL@quicktopic.com> wrote:
 

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Click for free info on getting a merchant account for your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/f...KREGhduzmngLJye0kE/ < replied-to message removed by QT >
Bob Probst  5423
01-16-2009 02:56 PM ET (US)
It ain't going to happen
go wireless with Verizon
the cell on Mountoboro neck road
or the cell NW of wolfboro, NH

-- QT - cowislguy <qtopic-18-2DcQnXwaD2qL@quicktopic.com> wrote:
 

____________________________________________________________
Click for free info on getting a merchant account for your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/f...ijFihNIgD9LV6X1TDr/ < replied-to message removed by QT >
Ron  5424
01-18-2009 04:52 PM ET (US)
Someone on Little Pine Tree Island said he was getting Boston, Concord Manchester, and Portland, HDTV stations using a "deep fringe" TV antenna on a pole on top of his camp. Sounds promising for at least the parts of Cow that can get signals from the south. About 11 stations total including the four major networks. Signals will probably be even better after Feb 17th (If Obama doesn't screw it up with a delay), since many of the stations operating on lower power today will go to full power on their HD channels. This, coupled with the available VZ wireless broadband (may require external antenna/booster for some) eliminates the "need" for cable. Time Warner has also stated it's not in the cards for this year anyway.
djg  5425
01-18-2009 06:18 PM ET (US)
some counties in the northern part of the state will not be switching over in February anyway. Not sure if that is including Tuftonboro but I am sure that parts if not all of Carroll County will not be switching over.
Ron  5426
01-18-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)
djg, not sure what you mean. It's the TV stations that are switching over their broadcast formats and frequencies as mandated by a Federal sell-off of those frequencies for other uses. It's not a county decision, and the Gov't has made $18B selling those frequencies for other users ready to use them on Feb 17th (including emergency and commercial uses).
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5427
01-18-2009 08:30 PM ET (US)

Harilla, former site of "D" building
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5428
01-18-2009 08:32 PM ET (US)

No more buildings! Just the new one!
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5429
01-18-2009 08:35 PM ET (US)

E-Building no more!
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5430
01-18-2009 08:36 PM ET (US)

Looking out towards the lake from Harilla where "D: building USED to be.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5431
01-18-2009 08:41 PM ET (US)
Went down to Harilla Landing today and snapped a few pictures. All of the buildings are gone and it looks great. I can't wait to see it in the spring.

Ventured over to the Island last night and had a very nice-ice cold beer with Jeff, Mel and Island Bob. Thank you guys so much I wanted to stay the night, ha ha ha. The new sled was barely 3 hours old and made its maiden voyage to Cow. Can't think of a better way to christen the sled than what we did last night.
djg  5432
01-18-2009 08:44 PM ET (US)
I know it seemed weird to me but for some reason it is different for the northern part of NH. I checked the WMUR website and here is the link regarding the exceptions. http://www.wmur.com/digital/15654903/detail.html
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5433
01-18-2009 09:52 PM ET (US)
djg, that only pertains to WMUR. All other channels are switching over. So the transition does affect those people. The article makes reference by stating
"If you live in the North Country and watch WMUR over the air (in your case that would mean on channels 38, 29 or 27), you will need a converter box, but one that has an "analog pass through" feature."
The analog pass through feature allows people to continue to watch WMUR on the analog feed. All other channels will be broadcast in digital thus requiring the set top converter.
JTA  5434
01-18-2009 10:29 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the photos HNut.
BTW, my rule for snowmobiling on the lake: Don't go where no other sled has been first (no fair sending your brother-in-law ahead to be that first one).
djg  5435
01-18-2009 10:45 PM ET (US)
Thanks for clearing that up. We use DirectTV, at least for now, so I was not worried about it anyway.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5436
01-18-2009 11:13 PM ET (US)
djg, no problem at all, ha ha ha. Glad I could help. The whole thing is so confusing to some folks. The rule is, if you have cable/sattelite, you are ALL SET! If not, pony up the dough and get CABLE!!! ha ha ha.

JTA, I just pointed in a direction and told him, "go over there." He listens so well. Your camp looked fine by the way. Island Bob looked so comfortable at Jeff and Mels. I can't blame him I was ready to set up camp and stick around myself.
JTA  5437
01-19-2009 01:22 PM ET (US)
I can just see it coming now. Hazelnut, "Oh JTA, snowmobiling was such fun that we decided to buy a couple of jetskis. The dealer had a couple of leftovers, you know, those ones that were considered too noisy so no one else wanted them."
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5438
01-19-2009 03:20 PM ET (US)
I'll make sure they outfit them with aftermarket exhaust, you know the extra loud kind that make them go faster!
djg  5439
01-19-2009 03:31 PM ET (US)
That is why I paid no attention to what they were saying, it didn't apply to me.
Joel B  5440
01-20-2009 11:11 AM ET (US)
Hi everyone, we're getting a 'cold snap' here in FL, down into the 40's ;-)

I'm looking for a renter for my bay at Harilla's, (with condition though). I will need for them to have a trailer to store my boat (I only use it 2-3 weeks a year, and launch it once or twice). The bay will hold up to a 23' boat, I have a 21' Four Winns. Know of anyone? Let me know and have a great winter.

Call me, Joel 954-326-8966 or email at joel.bienvenu@oce.com
   5441
01-20-2009 03:19 PM ET (US)
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HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5442
01-20-2009 07:38 PM ET (US)
got it. Sandra is going to email you tonight. Thanks!

Great to see you guys the other night. That was so much fun. I will be seeing you a bunch this winter, I hope. My plan is to make trips out to the Island, day and perhaps overnight. The boys are HOOKED on snowmobiling. I'll post pics.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5443
01-20-2009 07:39 PM ET (US)

THE BOYS & THE NEW TOY!
JTA  5444
01-21-2009 10:24 AM ET (US)
Very cool.
JTA  5445
01-21-2009 07:44 PM ET (US)

Hazelnut???
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5446
01-21-2009 08:53 PM ET (US)
That's Luke, not me.
phil  5447
01-23-2009 12:56 PM ET (US)
JTA that looks like you. Are those brown pants your wearing ?
JTA  5448
01-25-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
I looked all over on the lake web cams for the Hazelnuts. They are nowhere to be found. They must be away at the Winter X Games.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5449
01-25-2009 07:08 PM ET (US)
There are no webcams on our side of the island or at Harilla where we were watching J.B. Ice fish today!
JTA  5450
01-27-2009 10:57 AM ET (US)
OK, so it was GoogleEarth.
djg  5451
02-02-2009 05:49 PM ET (US)
Has anyone been into Orchard Cove this past weekend? Al and a crowd are hoping to go to camp for the Derby this weekend. They will mostly come by ATV so we are wondering how packed a trail (if any)into OC both from Harilla's and from 19 Mile Bay.
Dan H  5452
02-02-2009 06:24 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-02-2009 06:25 PM
There is a lot of snow out there. I am going to to be heading up to shovel roofs. If you are interested in having your roof shoveled or looked at please call Dan @ 603-540-4665 thanks
KPW  5453
02-02-2009 07:34 PM ET (US)
I plan to check out conditions from 19 Mile Bay to Cow, hopefully tomorrow.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5454
02-03-2009 01:57 PM ET (US)
djg,

A few of us were up around Harilla on Sunday. We were all on Snowmobile. I can only tell you that in certain areas there is substantial enough slush to get a snowmobile stuck. With that said there were plenty of packed tracks from snowmobiles to follow. I think an ATV could make it provided it doesn't stop once it gets going. I did see a couple walking out to Little Bear Island from Harilla, they were following snowmobile tracks. It looked like they were having no problem.
   5455
02-03-2009 02:57 PM ET (US)
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NLF  5456
02-03-2009 03:18 PM ET (US)
Old Schooler I believe Dan H works for Bud Light not $$$
will  5457
02-04-2009 08:48 AM ET (US)
Hi Bob. How is orchid cove? I want to stop by this weekend and shovel the roof on the bathroom side. Does it look safe in the cove?Give me a jingle. Will
Alan  5458
02-04-2009 10:18 AM ET (US)
Can anyone give an ice update for 19 mile bay area? Curious if the usual packed roads are there out between chase and farm island and if atv travel is possible or is the snow to deep. Thanks.
   5459
02-04-2009 02:02 PM ET (US)
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Alan  5460
02-04-2009 02:44 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info IB, it is greatly appreciated. One more question, how about truck travel on the ice? Are there many in 19 mile bay? We might leave the ATV home and venture out with the F150 4X4. Thanks again.
KPW  5461
02-04-2009 09:13 PM ET (US)
I was wondering the same thing. I was hoping to get to the Barber Pole by truck, this weekend.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5462
02-05-2009 09:46 PM ET (US)
I did see a truck over on the ice by Cow Island near Buettners, Huberty's, Clark's area... Looked like an F150 with a trailer (snowmobile). That was a couple of weeks ago. As usual BE CAREFUL!
LCR  5463
02-08-2009 01:37 PM ET (US)

The Boys New toy again.........
JTA  5464
02-09-2009 08:29 AM ET (US)
OK, let's have some postings. I want to hear about the Fishing Derby weekend whether you were fishing or not.
   5465
02-09-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)
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djg  5466
02-09-2009 05:48 PM ET (US)
IB,Sorry you have been ill. I am glad that you are feeling better.

Al (not the Alan that is posting)went to camp this past weekend for the derby. I stayed home - all men - didn't want to be the camp cook. He said on Sunday they passed a large group with 10+ trucks parked side by side and there were large cracks in the ice. All those trucks and all the holes in the ice for fishing, it was a dangerous situation. Oh well they must have all come off the ice safely or we would have heard. It is sure testing fate.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5467
02-09-2009 06:40 PM ET (US)
Derby weekend was a blast where I was. I didn't do too much fishing though. Mostly snowmobiling. I was around the Meredith, Weirs, Gilford area. I was with a group off of Governors Island that were fishing. I was also witness to a group that had a Salmon on the hook and let it go of course. It looked real big through the hole. What a shame he had to let it go. Meredith Bay was PACKED!! Tons of snowmobile and truck traffic all over that area. All in all huge numbers of people. Lake conditions were good in most areas. Slush spots here and there though. We did one trip on the ice from Meredith to the West Alton area. A few slush spots on the way but we just blasted through them. I have some pics I will post.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5468
02-09-2009 06:41 PM ET (US)

near the weirs
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5469
02-09-2009 06:43 PM ET (US)

Meredith
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5470
02-09-2009 06:44 PM ET (US)

Island party off Glendale / Gilford Public Docks
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5471
02-09-2009 06:45 PM ET (US)

looking out towards broads from Glendale
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5472
02-09-2009 06:45 PM ET (US)

weirs beach area
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5473
02-09-2009 06:46 PM ET (US)

Dead Fish
JTA  5474
02-12-2009 11:15 PM ET (US)
Man, those fish are starting to smell HNut.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5475
02-19-2009 04:21 PM ET (US)
The Boys and I are on the Island! JTA, that wood pile looks awfully big over there. ha ha ha. No worries though I brought my own this time. Alas, if I run our though..... hmmmmmmmm?

Seriously though we'll talk a walk over and check on the place.
JTA  5476
02-20-2009 04:41 PM ET (US)
See if you can find my ice fishing hole. It's been lost for a few years. It's round, about 8" diameter.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5477
02-20-2009 09:19 PM ET (US)
JTA,

House looks great... still standing. Day two on the island, the wood I brought is holding up just fine. Your pile is as of yet untouched. We'll see though ;) As for the ice fishing hole I saw it today. It told me to say hello from Cow Island.

Had a GREAT day on the sleds with Caruso and LCR and the kids. Had a nice drink with Island Bob who is holding court on the Island as usual. So nice and peaceful out here this time of year. JTA you'd love it. No loud boats and Jetskis. Only the very seldom hum of a snowmobile buzzing by.
JTA  5478
02-20-2009 10:27 PM ET (US)
Ah yes, I remember it well. The quietness is really nice. Glad you're having such a good time. You know, of course, you'll be buying sleds for the boys pretty soon, then Paige will want in.
Hazelnuts  5479
02-21-2009 07:27 AM ET (US)
First thing first JTA, Sandra has to get her own sled.
JTA  5480
02-21-2009 08:21 AM ET (US)
Been there.
   5481
02-21-2009 06:26 PM ET (US)
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LCR  5482
02-22-2009 07:45 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-22-2009 07:47 AM
Squirrel Island Boris: We just left our Cove... Caruso and LCR are the house on Cow directly accross from you with the farmers porch..we've met. The bubbler was operational on little Birch, but I do not recall seeing any open water or bubbler activity around your dock.
LCR  5483
02-22-2009 08:11 AM ET (US)
Absolutely perfect weekend at the lake...Great company.. Hazelnut and the boys were our official tour guides and showed us some beautiful trails, we had no idea they even existed.!!!. Couldn't have done it without ya Hazelnut.!!! Were hooked....already planning the next trip.

IB: It was great tosee you. Thanks for stopping by.. trust you made it home without getting too cold..!
LCR  5484
02-22-2009 08:45 AM ET (US)
Squirrel Island: further to my previous post.. Caruso added that there was no bubbler activity nor any DANGER - THIN ICE - sign... did you hire someone to install this for you???
   5485
02-22-2009 07:34 PM ET (US)
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JTA  5486
02-23-2009 09:15 AM ET (US)
HNut, I zoomed in one of those GoogleEarth satellite photos, and I think I saw footprints around my wood pile!
LCR  5487
02-23-2009 11:26 AM ET (US)
JTA: that was DEFINATELY Hazelnut.. I think I spotted him out my kitchen window with a flashlight.....
JTA  5488
02-23-2009 03:42 PM ET (US)
BTW, if you guys get to go snowmobiling on the trails, you would really enjoy the trek to the top of Mt. Shaw. The view from there is outstanding!
LCR  5489
02-23-2009 05:00 PM ET (US)
Since were now Snow Mobiling JUNKIES.. were already planning our next trip so we can do some serious trails!! We'll keep that in mind.. I'm sure our tour guide will know how to get there...
JTA  5490
02-24-2009 09:43 AM ET (US)
You go up past Melvin Village and the trail exits the lake somewhere around Arey's. Then you beat your way up some small trails and get to the Moultonborough Snowmobile Club parking area. Then off to Mt. Shaw. I'm sure you have trail maps.It's going to start getting soupy pretty soon. I'll be thinking of you all next month while I'm walking the beaches down in Florida.
LCR  5491
02-24-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
JTA: We did not pick up any trail maps.. I'm sure we will on our next trip, we we make it.. weather getting warm end of week... We'll be watching conditions closely. Have a wonderful time in Sunny Fla.
Ron  5492
02-25-2009 08:59 AM ET (US)
We did the Mt. Shaw trip yesterday and were treated to a spectacular 100-mile view of the Presidential Range, ME, and VT. The exit from the Lake runs directly behind the Melvin Village Marina rack buildings. Go between the orange markers to avoid the ditch at the shoreline. Had a great visit with Island Bob....all is well! MPC, your circulator is working fine now.
LCR  5493
02-25-2009 12:49 PM ET (US)
Ron: thanks for the additional info.. funny how the purchase of a nice sled changes ones mindset about rushing ICE OUT... were hoping we can get one more trip in 1st weekend of March before the lake gets too slushy/unsafe for travel.
JTA  5494
02-25-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)
LCR, on trails such as the one going up Mt. Shaw, ice can be a bummer if you don't have studded tracks. At this time of the year as things melt and refreeze you could encounter more of that.
   5495
02-25-2009 01:50 PM ET (US)
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LCR  5496
02-25-2009 01:52 PM ET (US)
JTA: fortunately we DO have ice cleats on track.. so were all set. Hope we get to check out the trail next week... watching conditions.. we'll be sure to post so you can read all about it while you sit on the beach.!
Hazelnuts  5497
02-25-2009 06:04 PM ET (US)
IB, you soil my good name!!! ha ha ha. This trip I happened to bring enough of my own wood. Next time though?????

OMA, All this negativity????? Slush spots, soupy, icy conditions? Man you're sounding more retired every day. ha ha ha.
JTA  5498
02-25-2009 07:18 PM ET (US)
Well HNut, the reality is (and then I'll delete this message) I'm really jealous of you guys. I miss the lake in February. Now March is another matter.
Hazelnuts  5499
02-25-2009 09:46 PM ET (US)
WE MISS YOU TOO!!!!!

We'll be the jealous ones come next week when you're cavorting on the beaches.

Next year JTA needs to buy a new sled!!!!!!
phil  5500
02-26-2009 10:21 AM ET (US)
Anybody know what will become of Pier 19 store this spring/ summer. Any news,
KPW  5501
02-26-2009 09:24 PM ET (US)
Rumor has it that Roger and Jan are going to run it again.
phil  5502
02-28-2009 02:29 PM ET (US)
That's great news. Thanks.
   5503
02-28-2009 02:45 PM ET (US)
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Hazelnuts  5504
03-01-2009 09:07 PM ET (US)
Awesome I really hope Pier 19 is open again.

KPW is that a rumor or is it for sure?????
JTA  5505
03-01-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
Maybe Manny can get a job there.
phil  5506
03-02-2009 01:10 PM ET (US)
JTA,


Roger and Jan aren't going to hire him. He has no job skills. And if it got a little to busy for Manny he'd quit on them anyway. As I see it, the only thing he can do well is hit a baseball.
Hazelnuts  5507
03-02-2009 03:27 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-02-2009 03:28 PM
Ok who did it????

Who called WMUR from Cow Island with the snow totals? I just saw it on WMUR webcast as they were going over Snow totals.
http://www.wmur.com/weather/grid.html#HEAR...ngname%3DVideo-Cast
KPW  5508
03-03-2009 12:01 PM ET (US)
I have heard from a few people that they are opening.
   5509
03-04-2009 11:09 AM ET (US)
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LCR  5510
03-05-2009 11:05 AM ET (US)
IB: Any word on weather conditions for the weekend.. we concerned that warmer temps may make travel slushy... any input will be appreciated.
Alan  5511
03-05-2009 03:55 PM ET (US)
Travel this weekend will be slushy. Here is the NOAA link to the weather. Have fun.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?C...Field2=-71.2087&e=1
phil  5512
03-07-2009 10:55 AM ET (US)
melt melt melt
LCR  5513
03-09-2009 11:31 AM ET (US)
WOO HOO.!!!! Boy was it an EERIE ride off the island Sunday morning... huge puddles of rippling water, some quite deep...!! Was very glad to get to Harilla even tho we knew there was still 2+ feet of ice under all that water.. still a very unsettling experience....!!!!
mms  5514
03-09-2009 05:13 PM ET (US)
I'm on the Pier 19 BOD and will be contacting the store's owner for a status in early April. I'll let everyone know. Roger and Jan bought a house in AZ, and the last I knew, they were not going to run it.
Ron  5515
03-13-2009 08:46 AM ET (US)
LCR, maybe you need to check out the hovercraft on the Winni Classifieds boat section! :-)
LCR  5516
03-14-2009 08:47 AM ET (US)
Ron: Nah.. we need adventure in our lives.! Went by your place to see if you were up.. but no life signs at all over there.. We'll be making our next Cow Island trip in the Angler, hopefully school vacation week.!
Ron  5517
03-24-2009 09:01 AM ET (US)
Hey Island Bob....you OK out there?
mms  5518
03-24-2009 04:26 PM ET (US)
Pier 19 Store - rumor is true. Roger and Jan will be running the store again this summer.
phil  5519
03-24-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)
Thank you mms and that's wonderful. Let's all support the store.
   5520
03-25-2009 03:18 PM ET (US)
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Ron  5521
03-25-2009 03:52 PM ET (US)
As long as you don't run out of ice! (I hate warm Vodka tonics)
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5522
03-25-2009 06:03 PM ET (US)
YAHOO to Pier 19 opening up this summer!!!!! GREAT NEWS!
djg  5523
03-25-2009 11:08 PM ET (US)
Support local merchants! Yeah Pier 19 store!
LCR  5524
03-26-2009 06:35 PM ET (US)
That's GREAT news, we need that store.!
   5525
03-28-2009 10:24 AM ET (US)
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Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5526
03-28-2009 01:25 PM ET (US)
Hello everyone,

I wanted to write quickly and introduce myself; My name is Andrew Brousseau - I own Complete Marine Care LLC and we are the new management company for Harilla Landing Yacht Club. I went to Harilla this morning and saw some fishermen 100' beyond the channel markers and have heard from a lot of others that there is still 18" to 20" of ice on the lake but have also heard and seen that run off areas and shorefronts are quickly opening up so please be careful if you are heading out...There has already been one snowmobile through the ice at the public ramp just outside Harilla.

We are looking forward to this year and urge anyone with concerns or questions to call or write anytime. The new number for service at harilla is 603-253-HLYC(4592) or 603-651-9727. You can also reach us through our website; www.completemarinecare.com where soon, we will have a private members section for Harilla that will include a forum and bulletin board.

Lastly, we have an ice out contest on our website that is open to everyone and we have started our monthly specials so please be sure to sign up for the email newsletter so we can inform you about future specials or other offers.

Thanks very much, Andrew
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5527
03-28-2009 02:39 PM ET (US)
Thanks Andrew and welcome to the forum and welcome to Harilla. Feel free to post information on this site from time to time. There are several members and readers of this forum that are also members of HLYC. Again welcome and good luck.
Bob Probst  5528
03-29-2009 04:53 AM ET (US)
WELCOME


TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.
I WILL BE IN:
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JTA  5529
03-29-2009 08:58 AM ET (US)
Hi Andrew,
It's nice to hear from you on the Cow Island Forum. Since you are obviously a computer user, I wonder if some of us might be talking to you about hosting a web cam. That would be quite useful to us. Maybe the association could float some $$$ for the equipment.
JTA A-22
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5530
03-29-2009 09:17 AM ET (US)
Hi JTA,

I am in the process of discussions with Time Warner Cable to obtain cable services at the service shop location and think your reference to a webcam would be wonderful. I will post the progress I make with getting service active and further this discussion with the board and members in the near future.
JTA  5531
03-30-2009 08:24 AM ET (US)
Great Andrew!
A selling point to the Board would be security.
JTA
Ron  5532
03-30-2009 08:50 AM ET (US)
Good point JTA. Recorded video surveillance security for the club and THE DUMPSTER!
Also maybe online valet reservations and service requests?
phil  5533
03-30-2009 11:02 AM ET (US)
If we have an early ice out in April, can we get our boats launched from Harilla or do we have to wait until May 1st
Ron  5534
03-30-2009 11:10 AM ET (US)
I think I need glasses....it almost looks like Phil asking about an early launch. Nah.
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5535
03-30-2009 11:16 AM ET (US)
Hi All,

I am in the process of adding a spring service request form, a valet request form, and a comment card to the "forms" page of my website so please check often as changes are being made almost daily.

To all members of Harilla, CMC will be on site regularly from now on so requests for launches and summerizes are welcome and are being processed currently. You do not have to wait until May 1st to get your boat launched, just call or email your request.
Thanks, Andrew
phil  5536
03-30-2009 11:23 AM ET (US)
Cut it out Ron. I'm just keeping my options open. Hope you and the family had a nice winter. Thanks Andrew for your quick response.
Ron  5537
03-30-2009 11:28 AM ET (US)
LOL. OK Phil. See you in April.
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03-30-2009 06:03 PM ET (US)
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HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5539
03-30-2009 07:09 PM ET (US)
Hope so IB!!!!

To all,
I was flipping through Craigslist and stumbled upon this. What a steal for someone who wants to put a little elbow grease into it.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/boa/1099647568.html

H
KX35FORD@aol.com  5540
03-30-2009 08:34 PM ET (US)
Ice out April 20 3.p.m. kerk
**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
JTA  5541
03-31-2009 07:49 AM ET (US)
I think someone is posing as "Phil".
phil  5542
04-01-2009 09:34 AM ET (US)
It's me JTA.
MP NYCPerson was signed in when posted  5543
04-01-2009 10:24 AM ET (US)
Folks, please forgive me for communicating in such an impersonal way, but I don't have email addresses for everyone. Cow Island and the lake meant so much to Bob Probst and he knew so many of you as friends that I wanted to let you know that he passed away Monday night of a heart attack. He was looking forward to enjoying the camp this summer, and I know that was making him very happy. If anyone wants any more details, please feel free to email me at mpatterson6@nyc.rr.com. I may not be able to reply for a few days, however. All the best. I'll see some of you later this year.
Maria
phil  5544
04-01-2009 10:38 AM ET (US)
Maria,

That's awful. Geez I'm in shock. Last time I saw Bob was at IB's horse shoe tourney last Sept. Bob certainly loved the lake. He grew up on the lake.
HazelnutsPerson was signed in when posted  5545
04-01-2009 08:48 PM ET (US)

Bob just left a message here on Monday:

Click here to read it:
/m5528

Such terrible news Maria. He said he was going overseas.
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04-02-2009 09:42 PM ET (US)
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CrusoePerson was signed in when posted  5547
04-04-2009 12:33 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-04-2009 12:34 AM
Though I posted this yesterday but I dont see it. . . .So ill try again. Ice out pics from NH boat .com, a little late but worth the wait. At

http://www.nhboat.com/Nhboat/Features/ice/ice_out_2009_ice.htm
Ron  5548
04-04-2009 09:55 AM ET (US)
Thanks Crusoe....I've been waiting for that site to start posting photos. Looks like not too long now. Will likely beat my 4/20 11:15 AM prognostication.
Hazelnuts  5549
04-04-2009 12:40 PM ET (US)
Ice is retreating pretty fast...... won't be long now! Feels like just yesterday we were standing at the Barbers Pole with LCR, Crusoe and Mark and MJ.
Ice out soon!  5550
04-06-2009 09:13 AM ET (US)
www.completemarinecare.com has a contest.....My guess is April 13th 4 pm
Anyone else have a guess!
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5551
04-06-2009 09:28 AM ET (US)
UPDATE on cable services,

CMC has contracted with Time Warner Cable to put Cable services into the HLYC facility so I will discuss with the board and explore installing a webcam... I will keep you posted...
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5552
04-06-2009 09:31 AM ET (US)
Regarding the iceout contest,

I will be accepting entries through today, 4-6-2009 if you have a guess and have not submitted it to www.info@completemarinecare.com please do today to register..Thanks and good luck
JTA  5553
04-06-2009 10:17 AM ET (US)
Andrew,
The Wolfeboro Corinthian Yacht Club has a live feed web cam that pivots 3 times across 180 degrees every few minutes. I wonder if we could contact someone there to find out about the equipment. It seems that if we're talking security, you'd want several views.
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04-06-2009 10:25 AM ET (US)
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Ron  5555
04-06-2009 11:08 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-06-2009 11:09 AM
IB....did you intentionally add a day to your earlier ice out guess? Is there something that an island resident sees that makes you push the date later vs. what looks like a possible sooner ice out? Just wonderin'.

Mine, posted to both Winni and CMC web sites is 4/20 11:15 AM
Hazelnuts  5556
04-06-2009 12:20 PM ET (US)
IB I think you are way off. I'm thinking by the end of this week we'll see ice out!!
Ron  5557
04-06-2009 12:36 PM ET (US)
Probably early next week. Looks like it might be at that point where it's all the consistency of "crystal straws" which is very fragile and subject to disintegration by wave action. Some good breezes working on some open spots and it'll be quick history.
LCR  5558
04-06-2009 03:15 PM ET (US)
Hazelnut: Do you know yet when you'll be heading up?
LCR  5559
04-06-2009 03:20 PM ET (US)
Has anyone looked at the Rattlesnake web cam in the past couple of hours.?? I checked it this morning and still quite a bit of ice. Just checked it and it's open water as far as you can see.!!! Amazing.
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04-06-2009 06:45 PM ET (US)
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Ron  5561
04-06-2009 07:01 PM ET (US)
lol...covering your bases? Good strategy. Pick enough days and you're bound to be right!
Bob McWhirter  5562
04-06-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)
The wind is howling @ 20-30MPH easily @ Melvin Village....there will be some breaking up tonight!!!
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5563
04-07-2009 09:05 AM ET (US)
>>>>Attention all Harilla unit owners<<<<

If you have a bay you are interested in leasing for the summer please contact me at your earliest at 603-651-9727

Thanks very much,

Andrew
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04-07-2009 12:25 PM ET (US)
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Ron  5565
04-07-2009 12:31 PM ET (US)
IB, here is a great link for lake wind records (click Historical Data for charts). It's a Varney Point weather station and web cam.

http://www.rochlis.com/weather/
djg  5566
04-07-2009 05:16 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know if it is possible to launch and get to Orchard Cove yet? We are hoping to make the maiden voyage on Friday afternoon or Saturday morning.
Hazelnuts  5567
04-07-2009 06:47 PM ET (US)
DJG, I wouldn't doubt it if you could make it this weekend. I think Ice-Out is only days away.
Kerk  5568
04-07-2009 07:24 PM ET (US)
DJG, If I wasn't dealing with home and health issues I would be there and think from past years I could make it given the ICE PIcs. and wind conditions kc
Kerk  5569
04-07-2009 07:25 PM ET (US)
DJG, If I wasn't dealing with home and health issues I would be there and think from past years I could make it given the ICE PIcs. and wind conditions JMHO kc
djg  5570
04-07-2009 07:34 PM ET (US)
Kirk, I hope you health issues are short lived. I know that if you could you would be there. We will see you soon, I hope! Deb
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5571
04-07-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)
From Harilla today the ice opened to allow limited travel to the back side of Little Bear
Walt & Lynda  5572
04-07-2009 09:27 PM ET (US)
Call and ask George Randall at 253-7042...he's the best source
of information.

Walt & Lynda Johnson
978 Waits Road
Owego, NY 13827
(temporarily)

1-603-581-8827(W)
1-603-581-8306(L)

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djg  5573
04-07-2009 09:40 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Walt. I never even thought of that option. I thought maybe IB would know. Hope you had a good winter. I am so psyched to get to camp.
LCR  5574
04-08-2009 10:22 AM ET (US)
DJG: We usually call George if its questionable, tho he didn't think we'd make it last year.. but we were determined and made it.. had to break up some ice but we did it.!
djg  5575
04-08-2009 07:20 PM ET (US)
The weather is calling for a windy Sunday which will probably keep us from going anyway. The big boat will be returning this year but not for a while yet so the 17'bass boat can be sketchy on a windy day. Al will go next weekend anyway but I will be in Maine to visit a friend who has just had knee surgery, again. She just can't say no to mogul skiing, never could.
SAS  5576
04-13-2009 07:06 AM ET (US)
"Ice-Out" on Lake Winnipesaukee was officially declared on
Sunday, April 12, 2009 at 12:00 pm (noon).

Does anyone have pics or links to the fire at Alton?
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5577
04-13-2009 07:26 AM ET (US)
www.wmur.com has quite a few and has some video as well
JTA  5578
04-13-2009 10:09 AM ET (US)
OK ... who was the first on the island?
Joan and I won't be up for a while as we're getting our CT house ready for sale (yeah, we bought a place in Florida). Leave me a couple of salmon please.
LCR  5579
04-13-2009 10:13 AM ET (US)
JTA: Congratulations!!! Knew it was just a matter of time before you joined the pack of snow birds.!! Good luck with CT home.. hope it sells quickly for you.
phil  5580
04-13-2009 11:19 AM ET (US)
Where in FL JTA ?
JTA  5581
04-13-2009 12:44 PM ET (US)
It's in Ft. Pierce (near Vero Beach) ... Spanish Lakes Country Club Village, a mobile home park with senior adult day camp and a golf course so I can continue as champion of the Cow Island Golf Tournament. As an added plus, we're not too far from the Greenwoods and the NY Mets ... and the place never gets hurricanes. It came with 5 shares in the Brooklyn Bridge too. Phil, you ought to come down!
phil  5582
04-13-2009 02:45 PM ET (US)
JTA that's why I asked. Looking forward to seeing you on the island soon. The last image of you in 2008 was going between Chase and Farm on your way to Pier 19 freezing your b--t off. Man that was a cold morning.

Congtrats on your new purchase.
Hazelnuts  5583
04-14-2009 09:12 AM ET (US)
Congrats JTA!!!! Good for you guys!

Opening up this weekend. Anyone else?
Ambassador RAI  5584
04-14-2009 03:20 PM ET (US)
Hey JTA what's this about continuing as the Cow Island Golf Champ. I still have the trophy. I know the girls talked about your new place and we are hoping to get together with you guys, but I wanted to add my congrats to both of you on the new purchase. And if you do get a hurricane there your place could get pushed all the way to the west side of Fla. Hee, Hee.
phil  5585
04-14-2009 03:22 PM ET (US)
Anyone know when the Pier 19 store will open. Thanks.
djg  5586
04-14-2009 03:53 PM ET (US)
Al went up this morning. We are officially open. Lots to do then go fishing. He will be there through the weekend doing some bass and salmon fishing. No surprise there!
LCR  5587
04-14-2009 07:48 PM ET (US)
Hazelnut : We think were coming up this weekend, weather looks too good to pass up.. Hope to see you there.
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5588
04-15-2009 06:40 AM ET (US)
Congratulations to Alan & Deb Gagne of Cow Island, winners of Complete Marine Care's first annual ice out contest - and thanks to all who submitted a guess.

Please check our website, www.completemarinecare.com for other contests and specials to be run throught the summer and fall.
Alan  5589
04-15-2009 01:06 PM ET (US)
Does anyone have any tips or tricks for priming the water line from the lake to the pump? I have the classic settup where there is obviously a foot valve on the lake end, a filter before the pump, then a Sears shallow well pump. I take the foot valve off and fill the waterline with a coffee can up to the filter, this takes quite some time. I then prime the pump and it usually works. Perhaps this is what everyone does, just thought I would ask in case I am missing something much easier. Thanks.
djg  5590
04-15-2009 04:58 PM ET (US)
Alan, we have the same setup. It is a real pain sometimes. Ours is misbehaving as I type this actually. I am sorry to to have an answer for you, but I do have a bit of sympathy. Use a recycled milk jug instead of a coffee can and have a few full next to you just in case.
djg  5591
04-15-2009 05:18 PM ET (US)
Andy, Al will be calling you this afternoon or tomorrow to claim his prize. It was his guess. I have absolutely no luck at all. WE WON!!!!
phil  5592
04-15-2009 07:37 PM ET (US)
Call Steve Buzzatto of ISS. He'll get your pump primed and running. 603-520-1778. I'd rather pay then pray. He hasn't failed me yet. For $100 or so it's well worth it.
Walt & Lynda  5593
04-15-2009 08:00 PM ET (US)
Alan,

That's how I do it. I fill it from a watering can normally
used for the garden so it fills in 20-30 seconds.

Walt & Lynda Johnson
978 Waits Road
Owego, NY 13827
(temporarily)

1-603-581-8827(W)
1-603-581-8306(L)

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djg  5594
04-15-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)
I know that Phil is right but in our house we are cheap frenchmen. We tend to stand around and swear at it then work on it again until we step back and swear at it again. It is the way of our people :)
Ron  5595
04-15-2009 10:11 PM ET (US)
djg, you're dead-on. You got this fellow cheap Frenchman laughing out loud.
phil  5596
04-16-2009 08:23 AM ET (US)
LOL. The reason I pay is because I'm not very handy and my patience level is lousy. Not exactly your self suffcient island type but so far have survived for ten years.

I'm really looking forward to the island.
H-Nuts handyman ;o)  5597
04-16-2009 09:59 AM ET (US)
Alan - another way to backfill that water line (quick and easy) is to get a manual bilge pump from the hardware store, the gray type that looks like an old-style bike pump, (maybe $20 - $40 depending on the size of the pump). Pull the discharge line (the flexible hose) out of the pump, and either put your water line in it - if it is the correct diameter, or... for a more secure and easier "one man job" rig... Cut the collar off the very end of the discharge line, get a nylon (not brass or galvi.) fitting that is barbed on one end and threaded on the other that fits the hose and your foot valve thread. Place the barbed end in the discharge hose, secure with a couple hose clamps, remove your foot valve, screw in the fitting (bilge pump), place pump in lake and start pumping. They move a ton of water in short-order, so you'll have that line filled in no time! Naturally, the bigger the pump, the quicker you'll fill the line. When you have water at the pump end, remove bilge pump, insert foot valve, place in lake, prime shallow well pump and let 'er rip! You should be pulling water before you can crack your first beer.

-Mark-
Ron  5598
04-16-2009 10:15 AM ET (US)
....or if your neighbor's water is running, run a hose from his house to the foot valve end of your intake line and fill-er-up until water comes out the pump vent. ;-)
JTA  5599
04-16-2009 11:03 AM ET (US)
Or, just prime it the old fashioned way, a little bit at a time from the pump back down the water line to the lake. This takes a long time but who's in a rush? You're at the lake!!
JTA  5600
04-16-2009 11:06 AM ET (US)
Oh, to RAI ... remember, you left the island (with the golf trophy ... illegal in my opinion). With the title being vacant, I simply laid claim to it. No one has challenged me.
djg  5601
04-16-2009 01:35 PM ET (US)
Ron, I forgot the beer drinking part of the process (I must have been drinking when I posted last). It is very important to have empty beer cans to throw at the pump. You know we are too cheap to waste a full one!
Ron  5602
04-16-2009 06:35 PM ET (US)
Oh yes, we must use beer.....but I drink from bottles and can't throw them on the Island, so I just sit back and down another one while I think about the problem some more. After a while, it doesn't really matter that the pump doesn't work.
Ron  5603
04-17-2009 11:24 AM ET (US)
Someone on the Winni forum mentioned that Moultonborough was looking to make the Harilla public ramp road resident-only parking. That would be devastating for ramp users as well as Harilla guest parking. If that happens, I hope there may be enough extra parking area in the new Harilla Yacht Club to have a guest parking area with a members having access to guest parking tags on an as-needed basis.
phil  5604
04-17-2009 01:02 PM ET (US)
Ron,

There's plenty of parking on Cow Island.
Ron Lheureux  5605
04-17-2009 02:23 PM ET (US)
Maybe, but the water is now too soft.

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cowgirl  5606
04-19-2009 01:24 PM ET (US)
Hi All,
We're looking into Verizon Broadband for high speed internet for both our rural farm in Vermont (yes, we actually have cows!) and for our cabin on Cow. We are near Hole-In-The-Wall so are facing north. Any ideas on how well a signal might work on Cow? If necessary, is there such a thing as an antenna for boosting the signal, and if so, where would we buy it?
We appreciate any advice!

Cowgirl
Ron  5607
04-19-2009 08:32 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-19-2009 08:35 PM
I am using VZ Wireless Broadband and getting 1.2-1.4 Mpbs speed (similar to DSL/cable) using a $60 external Yagi antenna. We are closer to Barber Pole side facing north and Northwoods Camp. Without the antenna I was getting 400-800 kbps with the modem's own antenna on my laptop. I have tested the signal over near the Hole-in-the-Wall on Ralph Colella's deck and got a good signal. If you can see Gunstock, you'll get even better signal. If you have a VZ phone and get at least 3 bars you'll have good Broadband. We also have a signal repeater in our camp to eliminate the dead zones inside the house (I sometimes use that with my roaming laptop as well). The repeater will only be as good as the signal you can pick up on an external antenna that it connects to, and now we no longer drop calls in the house.
Walt & Lynda  5608
04-20-2009 12:33 AM ET (US)
Hi,

We are seven cottages west of Hole in the Wall, on Little Bear Island. I am using Verizon Broadband Internet as I type.

The way to answer the questions is to take a look at the cell phone service you have at your cottage and at your farm. If you have at lease "three bars" you are "good to go".

The Verizon broad band is expensive, but it works almost anywhere!
Which side of Hole in the Wall are you?

Walt & Lynda Johnson
PO Box 1101
Center Harbor, NH
03226-1101

1-603-581-8827(W)
1-603-581-8306(L)


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cowgirl  5609
04-21-2009 05:32 AM ET (US)
Thanks, all. Looks like I'll double check how many bars I get on my phone.
Ralph is our next door neighbor; from Harilla, we go through Hole-In-the-Wall to get to our place.

Cowgirl
Ron  5610
04-21-2009 07:01 AM ET (US)
Just one more clarification...even if you get fewer than 3 bars on your phone, it still may be possible to get a good signal with an external antenna. With three towers around the Lake, I actually can't imagine that someone on Cow couldn't get an adequate signal with an external antenna mounted in the right place. Don't get the little external antenna that VZ wants to sell you for the modem. Those are useless. The antenna I would recommend is this one:
http://www.wilsonelectronics.com////ViewProductB.php?ID=13

with appropriate low-loss cable and an adapter for your phone/modem.
boniles@together.net  5611
04-21-2009 07:58 AM ET (US)
Thanks so much, Ron! We'll check it out.
Cowgirl

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Hazelnuts  5612
04-21-2009 11:45 AM ET (US)
Ron did you ever try one of these:
http://www.wi-ex.com/Page3187.aspx

I would like to try to improve my signal in the house, about 2-3 Bars. Outside I can get 3-4 + bars so I'd like to bring the outside signal in.
Ron  5613
04-21-2009 11:52 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-21-2009 11:54 AM
HN, yes. That is the repeater we have in our camp with a single 1' stick type omni antenna on the side of the house. This setup is to eliminate the dead spots in the house so we don't have to stand on one leg on our front deck rail to get a good signal. We have a steel roof which contributed to our problem. We have 3+ bars everywhere in and around the house now...no dropped calls. They're a bit tricky to setup and you need to try to get the external antenna as high a vertical separation from the base unit as possible. The directions are pretty thorough. If you have a good signal outside, then this will fix your problem.
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04-22-2009 10:10 AM ET (US)
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phil  5615
04-22-2009 10:13 AM ET (US)
Thank you IB. Trying to get over tomorrow, but not sure, sounds like strong winds.
phil  5616
04-22-2009 03:25 PM ET (US)
According to the new guy Andy, no boat launchings from Harilla until after noon on Friday. Pavement project going on.
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5617
04-22-2009 05:36 PM ET (US)
To all Harilla members - Due to the paving at the club we will not be able to process any requests for valet launch until between noon and 2 pm on Friday 4/24.

Please contact me with questions at 603-253-4592.

Thanks very much,

Andrew

HN - please call me
Udder Passion  5618
04-23-2009 09:21 PM ET (US)

Prop Damage
Udder Passion  5619
04-23-2009 09:23 PM ET (US)

Prop damage 2
Udder Passion  5620
04-23-2009 09:27 PM ET (US)
I got a call from Andrew a few weeks ago telling me that my prop was damaged. Well I was up to my eyeballs in tax returns and could not really deal with it at the time. Lisa and I were surprised since we are very careful about how and where we boat. Brett sent me the pictures below. Evidently, something backed into or some how struck my prop while it was in the new building during the winter. Both Andrew and Brett were unable to figure out the damage.

Has anyone else discovered any "winter construction damage"?
JTA  5621
04-23-2009 10:01 PM ET (US)
Whooa ... that looks like an expensive prop!!
Udder Passion  5622
04-24-2009 08:54 AM ET (US)
Ya think?
hazelnut  5623
04-24-2009 10:32 AM ET (US)
Whoa yeah that does not look like damage from striking an object while in the water. It looks more like something coming down on top of the prop. Weird.

No we have not had any damage to the boat over the winter. We splashed it last weekend and opened up the house. All was well with the boat.

I am currently on the island watching a lone bass boat cruise by..... It's getting warmer and I hear its only going to get better.

JTA,
Some hotshot go-getter moved between us for the summer. The nerve of this guy putting my docks in for me and lowering your dock frame. Geez if this keeps up I'll have nothing to do but relax when I'm out here. He even went ahead and cleaned up his yard all day last Sunday. I told him to blow all the leaves into your yard because you like a natural looking habitat.

Real quiet today on this side of the island. Just us and the Caruso clan. Your camp looks lonely JTA. It told me to say hello to you and not to forget about it. All looks well over there.
mms  5624
04-24-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)
No damage to our boat at Harilla over the winter. Launched it Wed and moved over to Pier 19.

I hear the store is opening May 15.
JTA  5625
04-24-2009 04:25 PM ET (US)
I'm working my a** off back home in CT. We should be done here in two weeks and then the house goes up for sale. Then I can come up and work my a** off at the lake. I'm glad the new guy between us is a hard worker. My spy already told me how you "raked" your leaves. I see that the Yanks don't have to face that Wakefield guy over the weekend. Thank God.
hazelnut  5626
04-24-2009 08:00 PM ET (US)
Raking is for chumps! ha ha ha. Modern conveniences such as the leaf blower make for more time to relax afterwards. My go getter neighbor did not refuse the use of said convenience to aid him in his quest for a leaf free yard. JTA you are welcome to come to the darkside and borrow it. Once you do you'll never go back. ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Udder Passion  5627
04-24-2009 11:03 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2009 11:04 PM
Hope you all have a great weekend. Our prop won't be fixed in time to use boat to open the camp. When it rains it pours even in beautiful weather.
Leaf be gone  5628
04-25-2009 08:32 AM ET (US)

Why walk and blow when you can ride!
hazelnuts  5629
04-25-2009 08:31 PM ET (US)
How bout them sox?!?!

Yee haa!!!

More fun watching it on cow with this july weather!
JTA  5630
04-26-2009 07:32 AM ET (US)
See me in October.
phil  5631
04-26-2009 12:14 PM ET (US)
Now that was a blue ribbon day at the lake yesterday.
hazelnuts  5632
04-26-2009 01:04 PM ET (US)
JTA IF the yankees even make it that far before they implode from all that pressure to perform! Ha ha ha
LCR  5633
04-26-2009 03:13 PM ET (US)
An absolutely AWESOME weekend at the lake.! It was great to see everyone last night lots of good food and company! Not to mention the wonderful HOST AND HOSTESS!!!!!
phil  5634
04-26-2009 07:11 PM ET (US)
Got my first look at the new building at Harilla Saturday. Yup we really needed all those fancy, nice looking fans just below the roof on the building. One member I ran into says we'll be paying for those for a long time.

Also I thought we were to get increased parking. Doubtful. Looks like a wash at best. The new building took away parking and the torn down racks added about the same amount.

Another observation. Is there only going to be one way in and out of the property. And is this by the construction road running along side the new building. If so it looks awfully narrow to me. What happens when one vehicle going in meets one going out. There is a chain across the old main entrance. Will this be now blocked off for good.

Your thoughts.
Ron  5635
04-26-2009 08:43 PM ET (US)
Those "fancy fans" are the State-Fire-Marshal-mandated fire suppression system which is supposed to be able to fill the massive building with foam in less than a minute, or something like that. Seems like significant overkill for a non-occupied building. Doesn't look like they are done with the paving yet, so there's still hope on more parking. The old entrance looks permanently closed with landscaping being put in place to keep it just a walkway in. There was only one way in/out before, so no change.
JTA  5636
04-26-2009 09:11 PM ET (US)
I've been wondering what'll happen when that system malfunctions and triggers the foam when there's no problem. Since we all own part of it we can commiserate together about this huge building code rip-off.
Hazelnuts  5637
04-26-2009 09:46 PM ET (US)
My apologies in advance to the G.C of this project but I do believe he should have gotten everything in writing from the Fire Department way way back in the beginning so we weren't blindsided with this ridiculous Fire Suppression system. Wouldn't a good G.C. know of or take care of this stuff in the beginning?

As for the traffic pattern I predict problems this summer with that. Any hope of having an exit road in front of the clubhouse?
phil  5638
04-27-2009 08:21 AM ET (US)
I couldn't agree more. The GC had the duty to contact the fire marshall at the beginning, before any construction. What were we blindsided to the tune of an additional $500,000. That's HUGE money.
Little Bear  5639
04-27-2009 08:40 AM ET (US)
I agree with the traffic flow problem at HLYC. This has potential to be a nightmare. Yesterday someone was parked in the area down near the holding docks while unloading a trailer. Nobody could get in or out past him. I was under the impression that we would be able to circle thru the club - down past the holding docks, then up by the clubhouse, but apparently not. What a fiasco.
Hazelnuts  5640
04-27-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)
phil he may have contacted the fire marshal but it seems he didn't get anything in writing. A HUGE mistake in my opinion.

On a lighter note, HOW BOUT THEM RED SOX?!?!?!?!
Walt & Lynda  5641
04-27-2009 10:22 AM ET (US)
I was surprised at the negative comment about someone
unloading a trailer at Harilla.

I would have guessed that if someone has a trailer, they
are hauling across more than the usual cottage opening
things - maybe having sold their home and moving in?

I would have thought that might have called for an extra
bit of consideration for the guy with the trailer, so early
in the season.

Did anyone who had a complaint about getting in and out
actually talk to the guy with the trailer ... ?? Did you
ask him to wiggle his unloading so you could get to your
favorite spot?

The answer is loud No! I'm the guy with the trailer.

I attempted to park so there was room for others to get
by. If I didn't leave you enough room, why not ask me if
I could shift and give you more room

Not one single solitary person took the time to try to solve
"the problem", if there actually was a problem. If you were
too shy, then ask the management to mention it.

Obviously so much easier to just put out a "shotgun blast"
complaint on e-mail than to talk to someone you had a gripe
with.

Walt Johnson

Walt & Lynda Johnson
PO Box 1101
Center Harbor, NH
03226-1101

1-603-581-8827(W)
1-603-581-8306(L)


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Hazelnuts  5642
04-27-2009 10:31 AM ET (US)
Walt,

I'm pretty sure Little Bear was stating an issue with the flow of traffic. I do not believe he was "firing a shot" at you. There wouldn't have been a problem had we maintained a separate exit. Whether or not it was you or someone unloading their trash or loading their boat is not the issue. Hell I'm sure we're all guilty of clogging up the loading area at one time or another during the season. Again that is not the point here. The point that Little Bear and the rest of us are making is that there is only one way in and out. It's only April and we're already seeing a problem. Come fourth of July it is going to be a nightmare.
Little Bear  5643
04-27-2009 10:36 AM ET (US)
Hazelnut - you are correct. My message was not intended as a complaint against the person with the trailer. I'm sure he would have moved if anyone had asked. However, my message was designed to highlight the traffic flow problem that we seem to be facing - that's all. Sorry to Mr. Johnson for getting you upset.
Ron  5644
04-27-2009 02:46 PM ET (US)
That whole area along the docks needs to be just a little wider to allow for someone to park and unload while leaving room to pass. That area is also now a dead-end, requiring a turnaround by the club house.

HN, I think an exit in front of the clubhouse would not work due to the public dock loading area right there.
LCR  5645
04-28-2009 10:45 AM ET (US)
Andy had mentioned to me last week that he is planning on making a load/unload zone right accross from where they launch, 15 minute parking etc.. so that should help around the dock area, but it's still going to be a nightmare in and out of Harilla, tight road and no visibility in spots of on coming cars. I like the idea of having possibly, 'EXIT ONLY' drive thru in front of the club house where the small gate is now.
Little Bear  5646
04-28-2009 11:04 AM ET (US)
I think that if we could have a dedicated load/unload area so we could just keep the main pathway by the holding docks free for passage from both directions, this would be a big help. Not a cure-all for sure, but it would be a start. Otherwise I think we'll need a traffic cop inside the club.
Hazelnuts  5647
04-28-2009 11:58 AM ET (US)
I think LCR hit the nail on the head too, it's that tight "one car only" road that is up by the building that has me nervous. Pretty low visibility and dangerous in terms of oncoming traffic.
JTA  5648
04-28-2009 12:36 PM ET (US)
You really need to have to room for two cars to pass or we'll all be backing up for each other from now until eternity. Maybe seniors should rule!
Hazelnuts  5649
04-28-2009 12:59 PM ET (US)
Unless said seniors are a Yankee fan. Those folks have to park on the road.

When are you coming up?
JTA  5650
04-28-2009 03:12 PM ET (US)
I'm waiting for it to get unseasonably cold ... maybe an early May snowstorm. I got the small boat out of the garage today. Big tag sale here Saturday. Then I'm ready to be free at last.
Hazelnuts  5651
04-28-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)
It would be inevitable that the day you finally come north we will have a freakish cold snap. ha ha ha. Hope to see you guys soon. Good luck with the Yard/Home sale.
Ron  5652
04-28-2009 05:44 PM ET (US)
I hear the access road is supposed to be 20' wide, so should be no problem.
Hazelnuts  5653
04-29-2009 09:27 PM ET (US)
Well that would be great Ron. I suppose as things are under construction we could all wait til we see what the final product will look like. I still think a separate exit is warranted but I will reserve final judgment until the last truck leaves the construction site. ha ha ha.
Chillin & Grillin  5654
04-30-2009 03:39 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know what the construction schedule requires for a completion date? Now that the season is underway, shouldn't we expect continuous work on parking lots by the contractor?
Andrew@CMCPerson was signed in when posted  5655
05-01-2009 07:00 AM ET (US)
TO ALL HARILLA MEMBERS,

While Ambrose makes great strides daily towards getting the parking area finished, the chain at the old entrance has been lowered TEMPORARILY to allow entrance and exit to the facility without hindering thier efforts.

This creates a major conflict between car and forklift traffic patterns so please drive slow and look twice before driving past the storage building - especially when exiting. If you are exiting and see a boat leaving the storage building, PLEASE SOUND YOUR HORN to allow the forklift operator knowledge of your being there. Thank you all for your cooperation...

Andrew, CMC
phil  5656
05-01-2009 07:46 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the heads up.
Pete T.  5657
05-02-2009 03:36 PM ET (US)
Has anyone tried using the new digital converter boxes on the island? With my old antenna I can only get 6 & 8 out of Maine. 13 is gone. With my converter box I still only get 6 & 8 and their news channels. Anyone have any better luck? I was hoping we'd get a better variety from the digital channels.
Ron  5658
05-02-2009 07:24 PM ET (US)
Pete, what side of the island are you on? To maximize your signal, you're probably going to need a rotating UHF Yagi type antenna. Many older antennae were optimized for VHF and the digital is all UHF now.
Pete T.  5659
05-03-2009 08:42 AM ET (US)
Ron, I'm on the east side, I checked a website called antennaweb where you can pinpoint your position on a map and it displays the available channels. It confirmed that 6 & 8 are the only ones available. That stinks. I don't know what happened to 13 (CBS) must be out of range for digital.
Ron  5660
05-03-2009 03:28 PM ET (US)
Pete, I prefer this site as it shows all "potential" stations, not just a list of high probability stations. Plus it shows direction.
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/
You can also move the red marker around to see what possible reception you may have if terrain is overcome with a higher antenna mount, for example.
Pete T.  5661
05-03-2009 06:02 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info Ron. I checked that site and there may be hope of tuning in channel 13 after all. It shows as a "weak" signal but maybe I can raise my antenna and pick it up.
Ron  5662
05-03-2009 06:20 PM ET (US)
The stations are also going to boost power after the June 12th, so stations you can't get now may get received after that date. Another site that shows this is http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&...id%3d7f147ecb3a6a56
If you click the button "Current" and "Post Transition" you can see additional stations coming into the "radar" for east Cow Island locations. Again, antenna type, elevation, and ability to point it will be key. I'll probably start playing with that stuff after June.
Pete T.  5663
05-03-2009 06:36 PM ET (US)
Ok thats good, looks like a few more channels will pop up then. Not as many as I'd like but it looks more encouraging. Thanks for your help
Ron  5664
05-05-2009 07:17 AM ET (US)
One more thing...I heard from someone on the Orchard Cove side that he is getting several Boston digital stations perfectly with a larger pointable antenna.
Ron  5665
05-05-2009 07:22 AM ET (US)
Where is everybody? Two great weekends in a row and a lot of empty (and many still raised) docks!
JTA  5666
05-05-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)
I'm down south in sunny, warm Connecticut.
phil  5667
05-05-2009 03:14 PM ET (US)
Ron,

I've been over twice. In APRIL. Last weekend was Kentucky Derby Saturday.
luckypetePerson was signed in when posted  5668
05-06-2009 07:51 AM ET (US)
Ron,

Like JTA, we're still way down south in sunny (and very hot) florida. We'll be up in a couple of weeks though. How's the fishin'?
Ron  5669
05-06-2009 08:12 AM ET (US)
Until this week, it's been sunny at the Lake. I guess the water to fill it has to come from somewhere.

The fishing's been good! Got two salmon and a rainbow in 2 hrs last week.
Little Bear  5670
05-08-2009 10:07 AM ET (US)
Back to Harilla for a moment. Why can't we have an exit up behind the clubhouse (where the old dirt exit was). They could easily put this in and build a rock barrier to separate the exit from the forklift pad outside the building. This would solve all of the traffic problems within the club. Can someone answer this?
phil  5671
05-08-2009 01:02 PM ET (US)
Now that's a good question. I'd prefer to see the exit run between the front of the clubhouse and the lake because it is more level. By running an exit behind the clubhouse it seems kinda steep, but would probably work if they built in a more gradual grade.

A while back, Ron mentioned that the road , entrance and egress will be 20 feet. Unless the club plans on taking over Duck Trap Road, I don't see where the twenty feet will come from. At least as I eyeball it.
Hazelnut  5672
05-08-2009 05:21 PM ET (US)
Just came through Harilla about an hour ago. WOW big changes in a couple of weeks. The road now meanders through the newly made parking areas. It seems pretty good but the road is still kind of narrow by the building. I guess it's going to be a wait and see.... meaning wait and see if there are traffic issues. Looks like we gained quite a bit of parking though.
JTA  5673
05-09-2009 10:15 PM ET (US)
I suggest that we move the building forward a few feet.
Ron  5674
05-10-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)
JTA, I certainly want to be at the next meeting when you suggest that!
Bill & Lorna Saunders #15  5675
05-12-2009 12:15 PM ET (US)
Hi Ron @ #42,
Bill and I will be on the island around the 1st of June and I would like to take you up on the offer of letting us see your setup (Yagi antenna and repeater)and possibly helping us get hooked up.I called a distributor of Wilson antennas and he asked what frequency band Verizon is using and something about a connector. It was all foreign to me, so I told him I would ask the expert, you! Do I need to know that stuff or should I just go ahead and order the Yagi 806-939 MHz Cellular Antenna (301111) from Wilson Electronics?

Your help and expert advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
cowgirl  5676
05-12-2009 01:46 PM ET (US)
Bill and Lorna,
Ron was very helpful to us regarding the Yagi antenna. After looking around the internet, I discovered that Amazon.com carries cell phone antennas for cheaper. The good thing about their site is the customer reviews - I find them very helpful. I know they have at least one antenna that works for both 800 and 1900 Mhz, which is what my new Verizon "Dare" phone operates on. We haven't signed up for broadband yet. We're waiting to get out to the Lake and check out our signal strength with the new phone. "Verizon Wireless" should be at the top of your screen, not "Extended Network." I'm told that even an antenna won't help if its not "Verizon Wireless."
Hope this helps!
Ron  5677
05-12-2009 10:12 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-12-2009 10:20 PM
Bill & Lorna, yes VZ operates in the 830-890 MHz range here, so the Wilson 30111 would be the proper antenna, available from a variety of sources as cowgirl states. You'll also need:
- a mount (you can look at how I did mine)
- a low-loss cable the minimum length to run to where you will plug in your computer (or wireless router)
- Wilson N female to FME female Cable connector (Wilson 971107)
- a cable end adapter/pigtail that matches your VZ Wireless Broadband phone (I'm using the VZ/Novatel USB727 and the optional antenna adapter [not their external antenna!] from Verizon for that phone)

Stop by any time.
Bill & Lorna Saunders #15  5678
05-13-2009 06:52 AM ET (US)
Thank you. I appreciate your help.
Bill & Lorna Saunders #15  5679
05-13-2009 07:54 AM ET (US)
Hi Ron,

Sorry, I have one more question...Verizon Wireless recommended we buy a Cradle Point router because nothing else would work properly. Do you agree with this? We currently have a CISCO Linksys but it is not wireless.

Thanks
Lorna
Ron  5680
05-13-2009 07:35 PM ET (US)
I guess I was holding back a bit, not knowing how complicated you wanted to get. ;-)

If you are going to use multiple computers, or you don't want to setup your computer where the antenna cable comes in, then yes, the CradlePoint is the way to go. I am using the Cradlepoint CTR500 and it works great, providing wirelss computer access anywhere in the house and out on the deck as well. Best of all, you just plug in your VZ Wireless Broadband modem right into the Cradlepoint router and it becomes a wifi hot spot.
Ron  5681
05-13-2009 07:38 PM ET (US)
There was activity in the Pier 19 store today.....looks like they are open or will open any day.
JD  5682
05-14-2009 12:07 PM ET (US)
Hey Ron,

Did you catch those salmon and rainbow in our bay or elsewhere? Thanks in advance.

Jane
Ron  5683
05-14-2009 12:12 PM ET (US)
Jane, If you were at camp, you would have been able to see me reel them in.
JD  5684
05-14-2009 02:12 PM ET (US)
That's kewl. I never have any luck in our bay; well, except for SMB off the dock. I may have caught one or two rainbow while trolling. I do know a nice little place where we catch 10-20 salmon within a couple of hours. Jim will attest to it, too. We only keep the BIG ones though. :D Looking forward to getting out there. We are 10 minutes away, now, but our family life is busy with the boys. We should be out this weekend... I think. I hope Molly and Dave will be there!!! Molly you out there??? Let us know. Best!
djg  5685
05-14-2009 04:02 PM ET (US)
If you have a honey hole for salmon, this is Winni Derby weekend and my husband would love to know where that is. :)

I am wondering if anyone has a decent pontoon boat, enough to carry 10-12 people and gear for an afternoon cookout? I may be hosting my coworkers for a weekday afternoon/day some time in July or August. I am hoping that this person would act as the taxi to and from probably Harilla's and of course would be paid for the services. If anyone is interested let me know by posting here and we can take it from there. I am planning early which is not usually one of my strong points.
PCap  5686
05-15-2009 09:31 PM ET (US)
Hi Ron, we ran into Roger and Jan last weekend and they said they would be opening Pier 19 on Thursday, 5/14! Sounds like they are in business!
Ron  5687
05-17-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-17-2009 08:54 AM
A clarification to an earlier post I made regarding TV antenna reception... Post June 12th some of the current UHF digital stations will be converting back to VHF for some unkown reason (UHF has better propagation over terrain so it makes no sense). This will require an antenna that picks up both UHF and VHF, which unfortunately will be larger.
mms  5688
05-17-2009 11:58 AM ET (US)
Hi everyone! Dave and I, and Lucy, will be out this weekend. We had to wait until the porch was 'Lucy-safe'. We're happy that she's still with us this year. Hope to see everyone soon!
JTA  5689
05-17-2009 02:11 PM ET (US)
Ron, I'm assuming that we can just anchor out in front of your place and enjoy wifi? I'll come around in the evening so that I can read my screen easier.
JTA  5690
05-17-2009 02:13 PM ET (US)
Seriously, we've been considering a Verizon hook-up. Add me to list of people who'd like to stop by and see what you've got.
JTA (#63)
BostonGuy  5691
05-17-2009 04:27 PM ET (US)
Does all this Verizon talk mean that Comcast has definitely decided against wiring Cow Island? Did we not get enough callers, or did they just ignore our requests?
Hazelnut  5692
05-17-2009 06:18 PM ET (US)
Speaking of Fishing, my new neighbor at the Boyden camp, Mark assisted me with catching one of the 20 or so White Perch swimming around my dock. After cleanng the fish we threw it on the grill that night for dinner. WOW! Those of you who have not eaten the freshwater White Perch I urge you to try it. It was delicious. By the way we also caught a nice size SMB.
Ron  5693
05-17-2009 07:36 PM ET (US)
JTA...lol..yah, just pretend you're fishing and I won't know the difference.

Yep, stop by any time to see it. I'm thinking of starting a business doing indivividual site wireless signal surveys and tailored hookup recommendations soon. Better check it out before I start charging. ;-)
phil  5694
05-19-2009 06:30 PM ET (US)
IB

Thank you. You're a good man. See you soon.
Hazelnut  5695
05-20-2009 08:16 PM ET (US)
Ron  5696
05-20-2009 08:51 PM ET (US)
HN, yah, it is! Saw the sign when we drove by this afternoon. What up?
KPW  5697
05-20-2009 10:30 PM ET (US)
Shocker, yes!
JTA  5698
05-20-2009 11:25 PM ET (US)
Well, normally I'd have some wise-ass comment, but this is not good news.
LCR  5699
05-26-2009 01:56 PM ET (US)
HAZEL WHO.....????
Hazelnut  5700
05-26-2009 03:24 PM ET (US)
HEY!!! ha ha ha. We suck around pretty late yesterday and it got real quiet. No traffic at all on the way home.
JTA  5701
05-26-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)
LCR, Hazel's the guy who lives between my place and yours.
LCR  5702
05-26-2009 08:08 PM ET (US)
We hit traffic getting thru Meredith, cuz of the craft fair, but after that clear sailing.
Hazelnut  5703
05-31-2009 03:22 PM ET (US)
JTA, what gives man? What's all the fuss about retirement anyway? It seems you end up spending LESS time at the camp than you used to. ha ha ha.

LCR, Jack and Luke missed their buddy this weekend.
JTA  5704
05-31-2009 04:03 PM ET (US)
We're in Chicago visiting guess who? Sorry, no time for the lake. How about some warm weather?? I mean REALLY warm weather.
LCR  5705
06-01-2009 02:20 PM ET (US)
Hazelnut: beleive me WE missed the lake too.!!!
JCD  5706
06-01-2009 10:14 PM ET (US)
It was unbelieveably windy on Sunday afternoon at the lake. There must have been - easily - 4 foot waves out in front of my place. I have a picture of the port-a-potty that blew over in the wind at 19 Mile Bay, but I'll be damned if the SysEng can figure out how to post pix up here. Water was coming in over the bow of our boat as we made our way to 19 Mile Bay. (Ron, did our little boat stay put on our mooring? Thx.) Also, Ron did you get a new email address (no longer using the verizon.net acct)?
phil  5707
06-02-2009 08:01 AM ET (US)
Hi Jane,

Your boat stayed on the mooring as of Monday morning when the winds calmed down a bit.. I saw you guys tear into the wind and waves on your way out to Chase Point Sunday afternoon. Scary for me to watch that. The wind was tremendous at that time and the waves had to be at least 4 footers. As narly as I've seen them in a long time.

Glad you all arrived at Pier 19 safe and sound. Needless to say I stayed put on the island.
JCD  5708
06-02-2009 08:55 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Phil! Yeah, it was crazy! Hope to see you soon.
Ron  5709
06-04-2009 07:18 AM ET (US)
JCD, I sent you an email.
Bill & Lorna Saunders  5710
06-07-2009 09:55 AM ET (US)
Is anyone missing a raft? George Randall found a raft floating out in front of our place early last week and tied it to our dock. He called Marine Police to see if anyone reported one missing, but no response as of yet. If it is yours, come to #15 Cow Island to claim it - our cell phone is 603.548.2718.
Hazelnut  5711
06-07-2009 08:09 PM ET (US)
Is it nice? ha ha ha ha ha ha
LCR  5712
06-08-2009 07:56 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-08-2009 08:04 AM
We had a problem with the hook on our raft the last time we were up, which was 2 weeks ago.. is it a wood raft or the newer plastic (gray).??
Bill & Lorna Saunders  5713
06-08-2009 08:33 AM ET (US)
Is it nice?????...it would be nice if the owner came and got it :-)

It is a wood raft and it has two pipe fittings on the top of it...maybe for a diving board or a ladder.

If anyone is interested, I will call George Randall to see if he heard back from Marine Police...if not, it is yours.
LCR  5714
06-09-2009 06:49 AM ET (US)
Not ours thank goodness.!
Hazelnut  5715
06-09-2009 12:20 PM ET (US)
Unfortunately it could be from anywhere with the way the winds were a couple of weeks ago.....
JCD  5716
06-09-2009 03:22 PM ET (US)
Yeah, it may be from Mirror Lake...
Hazelnut  5717
06-10-2009 09:37 AM ET (US)
Yeah with that wind I'd check Squam Lake!
mms  5718
06-10-2009 01:34 PM ET (US)
Pier 19 will begin selling gas again tomorrow morning.
phil  5719
06-10-2009 02:42 PM ET (US)
mms,

Thanks for the heads up. Any idea of price.
mms  5720
06-10-2009 04:49 PM ET (US)
No, Phil. You'll have to take a ride over... I just told Roger I'd post this for him.
ideal  5721
06-11-2009 08:02 PM ET (US)
can anyone tell me about all the marked trails on cow? red, blue, any others?
JTA  5722
06-12-2009 02:18 PM ET (US)
I went over to Pier 19 on Monday to get gas ... posted "no gas yet". I was P*****. Then I went to Trexler's ... gas sign down, two guys working, no one would pay attention. I was double p*****!! A couple of days later I stopped at Melvin Village Marina. I got my gas and they explained to me what's going on. Both places are upgrading equipment for the new gas blend (MV went through that last fall), so now I'm not so p*****. MV gas was close to $3 but that's the new additive blend that most marinas are carrying. It's still ethanol gas but has a stabilizer additive mixed in.
phil  5723
06-12-2009 02:59 PM ET (US)
JTA,

Could you bring in 3, five galloon containers of gas and put them in my pontoon boat. Thanks. I'll pay you this fall.
Walt & Lynda  5724
06-12-2009 06:16 PM ET (US)
All,

I just bought gas at 19 Mile Bay at $3.159 per gallon. The person at the pump informed me that it already has the necessary treatment added to adapt for the alcohol content. That alone is worth about $.15 per gallon.

If we want gas at 19 Mile Bay, we need to buy gas at 19 Mile Bay.
Walt Johnson
PO Box 1101
Center Harbor, NH
03226-1101

1-603-581-8827(W)
1-603-581-8306(L)


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phil  5725
06-12-2009 06:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks for info Walt. And you are 100% correct. We should be supporting Pier 19 Store, by buying our gas and other camp items there.
Hazelnut  5726
06-14-2009 03:34 PM ET (US)
That is great news as I always fill up the Whaler there! I will continue to do so. I appreciate the great convenience that this store provides.
JTA  5727
06-14-2009 06:16 PM ET (US)
OK Phil ... I dropped off the gas. You owe me $632.55.
KPW  5728
06-14-2009 10:05 PM ET (US)
The state was holding them up. It's not easy to have waterfront gas!
Alan  5729
06-16-2009 01:09 PM ET (US)
Much more info is needed before I or anyone should purchase fuel from Pier 19.

Pier 19 gas is being delivered in small trucks that resemble home heating oil trucks, not the large tankers we have seen over the years. Also these trucks have no markinigs on them regarding what brand of fuel or any retailer info what so ever. As a matter of fact the delivery truck that was there Sunday looked like someone took spray cans of paint and painted the sides of the tank portion of the truck. I guess what I am trying to say is I hope the shoddy looking delivery trucks are not an indication of the quality of fuel.

Valve Tek is the only boat fuel that we should be using, no I do not work for that company. Fuel that is simply treated for ethanol as was mentioned here could simply mean a product like stabil was added. This helps but falls way short of proper protection.

So in closing if anyone can get more info on the boat fuel Roger is selling it might help us to make an informed decision. I hope my perception about the delivery trucks etc... is wrong and he is indeed selling good quality fuel as it is very convenient for many of us. look forward to more info.
JTA  5730
06-16-2009 03:22 PM ET (US)
The mechanic at Melvin V Marina told me that I could choose to add stabilizer to the Valve Tek gas (which they are supplying), that you could not "overdose" on additive.
Alan  5731
06-16-2009 06:23 PM ET (US)
That is correct JTA, my concern is the Pier 19 gas might be "underdosed".
JTA  5732
06-17-2009 07:42 AM ET (US)
Bike week? I haven't seen any bikes>
(goin' in to town today, however)
Ron  5733
06-17-2009 10:58 AM ET (US)
Beautiful day today, so we're starting to hear the rumble on the distant shores. Finally, a weather break for the poor bikers, albeit short.
JTA  5734
06-17-2009 11:51 AM ET (US)
Back from town ... MANY bikes! Amazing phenomenon ... blue sky makes the lake look blue. I don't remember ever experiencing that before.
LCR  5735
06-18-2009 03:33 PM ET (US)
Poor bikers.. I can't remember the last bike week that was without rain.! oh how I remember those days, painful rides in the rain, and I don't miss it much.!
Ron  5736
06-22-2009 11:29 PM ET (US)
Is ice out yet?
Hazelnut  5737
06-23-2009 01:18 PM ET (US)
Ron  5738
06-23-2009 02:10 PM ET (US)
Thanks HN and IB. I was actually trying to find a copy of that mag in the bookstores, but that particular issue was no longer available.

Hey, I take exception to their calling us "nobodies"!! We're somebody. ;-)
phil  5739
06-23-2009 04:09 PM ET (US)
No. Actually we're nobodies.
phil  5740
06-23-2009 05:53 PM ET (US)
I read the article. Now wait a minute. We at 24 Cow Island hold the 2008 Island Bob, Cow Island Horseshoe Tournament trophy.

Not a bad thing to have. Hope to defend it in 2009.
JTA  5741
06-24-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)
Beware ... Retired General JTA and Mrs. RG JTA are likely to be at this year's Horseshoe tournament. By then, Cow Island will be our permanent summer month residence ... goodbye Connecticut. Heck, we'll have no place else to go!
LCR  5742
06-24-2009 01:23 PM ET (US)
JTA: Does that mean you SOLD Conn.? If so CONGRATS !
Hazelnut  5743
06-24-2009 03:32 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-24-2009 03:33 PM
Well I saw Mrs. JTA this weekend but Mr. JTA still insists on hanging around in dreary old Connecticut.
JTA, I need to let you in on something. Once you move your residence out of Connecticut you have to officially denounce your affinity to the Yankees Organization. As a prerequisite to becoming even a part time resident of one of the "Northern" New England states you must profess your allegiance to the beloved and FIRST PLACE Boston Red Sox. The only team worthy of any allegiance.

I'm just sayin'.
JTA  5744
06-24-2009 03:50 PM ET (US)
Ahhh ... my family roots go bsck to The Bronx ... so, no deal. Yes, CT is sold ... we just need to jump through a few more hoops!
Hazelnut  5745
06-24-2009 09:01 PM ET (US)
JTA, Then you leave us no choice. Us Northerner's will forever refer to you as a breezer. Don't blame me I don't make the rules. Ha ha ha See you soon?
JTA  5746
06-24-2009 11:20 PM ET (US)
I'm out of action for a couple of weeks.
SAS  5747
06-26-2009 01:41 PM ET (US)
 Regarding boat gas...
I spoke to Roger today and found out he buys his gas from Dennis Burke which is the same distributor used by Melvin Village Marina according to Chuck. Both said it was rated 89 octane and both said it is delivered in smaller trucks.
  Roger showed me the card from Dennis Burke which is out of the market terminal area in Chelsea, MA.
Alan  5748
06-27-2009 12:31 PM ET (US)
Same distributor but is it the same gas that Melvin Village sells? By that I mean is it ValveTek fuel? If it is he should have the signs that Melvin and others have advertising it is indeed ValveTeck. Still not convinced he is selling quality product.
Hazelnut  5749
06-28-2009 09:46 PM ET (US)
Alan,
2 things
1. Maybe I'm crazy but if Melvin and Pier 19 buy the same gas from the same guy wouldn't you think they'd send one truck from Chelsea to fill both tanks? Just a thought I could be wrong.

2. When I filled my Whaler at Pier 19 today I noticed that they featured the same Gas Treatment for sale that all the Marinas sell with ethanol.
Alan  5750
06-29-2009 06:02 AM ET (US)
The same distributor of a product such as fuel can and does carry several different grades/quality product. Melvin Village Marina does not recommend treating their fuel with the new stabil treatment as it is ValvTek fuel which is already treated. If Roger was selling this type of fuel it would be advertised as ValveTek fuel which is the prefered fuel for boats. The jury is still out for me.
SAS  5751
06-29-2009 08:40 AM ET (US)
Just got off the phone with Dennis K Burke in Chelsea and they said that both Melvin Village and Pier 19 is getting ValvTek. At this point I guess I can buy my gas from both and not worry about it.
phil  5752
06-29-2009 09:00 AM ET (US)
I buy my gas at Pier 19. With the valvetek already in the gas, do we still need to put in additive. Thanks.
Alan  5753
06-29-2009 10:50 AM ET (US)
Good news about pier 19 and valvetek. Thanks for finding that out.
JTA  5754
06-29-2009 12:31 PM ET (US)
Phil ... add a shot of Bud Lite. It'll make all the difference.
phil  5755
06-29-2009 02:48 PM ET (US)
JTA,

That's pretty funny, but seriously about the additive.
Alan  5756
06-29-2009 03:24 PM ET (US)
Read all about it, link below. Also I might add if any of you are friends with Roger at pier 19 he needs to advertise that his fuel is indeed valvtect. I know many who are still leary of the fuel he is selling since it appears most marina's that are selling it have many sign's up stating it is valvtect and he does not.

http://www.valvtect.com/products04.asp
JTA  5757
06-29-2009 03:58 PM ET (US)
A mechanic at Melvin V Marina told me that you can't overdose on additive. From what I gather, if you don't use your boat much and it sits around for a long time (a few weeks) between fill ups, it's probably a good idea to throw in a second dose. (Phil, I really was kidding ... who would waste some Bud Lite?).
Alan  5758
06-29-2009 04:32 PM ET (US)
Miller Lite works much better than Bud Light.
Hazelnut  5759
06-29-2009 05:49 PM ET (US)
Alan I concur if I had Miller Lite I would rather dump it in the gas as an additive than drink it. ha ha ha. My Father-In-Law on the other hand... he'd kill me for wasting his beer of choice.
phil  5760
06-29-2009 07:05 PM ET (US)
That's funny guys and thanks for the info. Now where's the sun.
JTA  5761
07-05-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)
Thanks Dave and Linda for helping us out!
LCR  5762
07-06-2009 12:34 PM ET (US)
JTA: Glad we were here to help.!
MP NYCPerson was signed in when posted  5763
07-10-2009 10:52 AM ET (US)
There will be a memorial gathering for Bob Probst on Saturday, August 1, at Canoe in Center Harbor, from 1:30 until 3:30, but lunch will be buffet so you don't have to be there at a set time. Just let me know by July 22 if you plan to attend. You can call at 212-316-0205 or email me at mpatterson6@nyc.rr.com.
luckypetePerson was signed in when posted  5764
07-14-2009 05:34 PM ET (US)
hey, the power is out! everyone have enough ice?
Ron  5765
07-14-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)
Tree was down on the wires on north side of island. Power was back by 7:30. Ice is now in my beverage.
MOOOOOOOO!  5766
07-28-2009 12:48 PM ET (US)
Well folks sorry for the late notice but:

It's that time of year again!
THE 20th Annual COW ISLAND PADDLE BOAT RACES!
and Island Get Together.

Saturday August 8th 2009
4:00pm
65 Cow Island

BYO Beverage and Bring a snack to share.

Docking is limited so Boat Pool or paddle on over.
mms  5767
07-29-2009 03:46 PM ET (US)
Whose house is 65 Cow???
phil  5768
07-29-2009 07:32 PM ET (US)
I think it's Hazelnuts across from the Barber Pole.
JTA  5769
07-30-2009 06:42 AM ET (US)
Is there a senior division?
phil  5770
07-30-2009 10:11 AM ET (US)
Only for you JTA
Hazelnut  5771
07-30-2009 08:00 PM ET (US)
Yes Phil you are correct!!!!
COWISLGUY  5772
07-31-2009 11:11 AM ET (US)
FREE TO GOOD HOME: 6 CUBIT FOOT GE FRIG. WORKS GREAT. NEED TO GET RID OF within the next 2 or 3 days. otherwise it's gone. Call if interested 253-4219.
Dan Barnard  5773
08-05-2009 10:07 PM ET (US)
I would like to extend an invitation to all Cow Island Forum members to check out the Tuftonboro Forum (www.tuftonboroforum.org). This is a website, also known as the Tuftonboro Bulletin Board, which is dedicated to serving the entire Tuftonboro Community which certainly includes the Cow Islanders. There is a Help Wanted and a For Sale section, as well as a Community Calendar and Tuftonboro Photo Gallery. Naturally, there is a forum where anyone with an interest in Tuftonboro can express an opinion on town issues. In my view, everyone with an interest in Tuftonboro, whether a seasonal or year-round resident, deserves an opportunity to be heard on matters which affect our town. A link has been established on the Tuftonboro Forum to the Cow Island website. After all, we are all in this [town] together!
Ron  5774
08-08-2009 09:57 AM ET (US)
Dan B., Thanks for the info and link.
djg  5775
08-08-2009 06:46 PM ET (US)
I went to the site and signed up but have been waiting to be confirmed still.
Hazelnut  5776
08-09-2009 08:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks Dan... will do!
Dan Barnard  5777
08-09-2009 09:07 PM ET (US)
To djg:

I believe everyone from the Cow Island website who has responded has been identified and has been approved. If I missed you, I sincerely apologize. Contact me directly at danbarnardjr@roadrunner.com if you have questions.

Dan
Dan Barnard  5778
08-09-2009 09:17 PM ET (US)
Echo2182, I would love to hear from you directly at danbarnardjr@roadrunner.com. Thanks.
Sandra Morency  5779
08-16-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)
LOST DOG!!!!

Black beagle named Deisel - Lost on 8-15-09 If any one sees him please call 603-253-4007. We are at 109 Cow Island.
djg  5780
08-17-2009 10:34 AM ET (US)
Sandra,

I am Deb from 119, hopefully you have found Deisel by now. My husband, Al is at camp as are our neighbors, I will tell them to keep an eye out for Deisel. If you need any help locating him in the interior of the island, drop over and let Al know. He and Riley(the black lab always on our bow) would be happy to go out looking for your pup.
Island Bob  5781
08-17-2009 01:16 PM ET (US)
All,

Need to set the date for the Cow Island 4 th Annual Cow Island Horseshoe
Tournament, details will follow later but will be the mostly the same as
the first three years. I'll always set the date for the Saturday
after Labor Day, which this year is September 12th. Plan on
arriving about noon and we'll kick the tournament off at 1PM.
Rain date will be the following Saturday, September 19th. Be thinking about your team.

IB
JTA  5782
08-17-2009 06:55 PM ET (US)
Will there be a senior division this year?
Island Bob  5783
08-18-2009 11:28 AM ET (US)
JTA,

Yes to the senior division. There is up to an 8 foot penalty for the senior division ( you have had all these years to proctice ). Senior division qualifications, must be older then me.

IB
Island Bob  5784
08-18-2009 11:33 AM ET (US)
All,

4th Annual Cow Island Horseshoe Tournament

Pass the word to your neighbors on the island!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trophys have been ordered! Winter Bragging Rights are
available. Choose your team mate as in past years. A
little practice and the past champs could be beat. My pits are
available for practice. Under sixteen years of age and an 8 foot advantage will be considered.

4th Annual Cow Island Horseshoe Tournament
Fee is $13.00 per team mate and yes a $3.00 discount for a 5
gallon bucket of sand. SAND IS NEEDED FOR THE PITS and GREATLY
APPRECIATED!
Saturday, September 12th, 1:00 PM start at 90 Cow Island (Orchard
Cove) Show up around noon, please
Rain date, Saturday, September 19th, 12 noon
Notify your neighbor, they may not visit this forum
Trophys for the winning team
Cash prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place.
Burgers and hotdogs available
BYOB event
Bring your favorite dish also

Point System
Close = 1 point
Leaners = 2 points
Ringers = 3 points
Game = 21 points
Odd number of teams = playoff of 21 points, one team out
Hit my house = out of tournement
Break my window = asked to leave the island
Choose your team, notifying me (robertparmenter@comcast.net)will
set order of play
No dogs or young kids in the Pit Area.
I'm the boss, Robert's Rules.

IB (Island Bob) & IP(Island Penny)
phil  5785
08-18-2009 12:40 PM ET (US)
ya right IB. " past champions can be beat "
phil  5786
08-18-2009 12:47 PM ET (US)
Sounds like a great time IB. Thanks for your hospitality.
djg  5787
08-18-2009 02:29 PM ET (US)
Once again we will not make your tournament. We have Red Sox/Rays tickets for that Sunday. Thanks for the invite.
Sandra Morency  5788
08-18-2009 06:28 PM ET (US)
 Deisel was spotted on Monday afternoon, but we could not find him. We are getting really worried about him. If anyone spots him please call 253-4007. His name and phone number is on his collar. Thanks for any help anyone can give us in locating our dog.
djg  5789
08-18-2009 07:37 PM ET (US)
Sandra,My husband, Al and our dog went looking yesterday. He said they will go out again some time tomorrow. Our dog might be interesting enough for Deisel to come closer. I hope so anyway.
Chillin & Grillin  5790
08-19-2009 08:47 AM ET (US)
Are Little Bearers eligible for horseshoe tourney?
Island Bob  5791
08-19-2009 09:27 AM ET (US)
8/19/9

Chillin & Grillin,

Little Bearers, why not.

IB
Sandra Morency  5792
08-19-2009 10:51 AM ET (US)
Deisel was found this morning, He was tired and hungry but other than that he is okay.
Thanks to all who kept an eye for him. Thank you Al for going out to look for him. His family is very happy he is back.
djg  5793
08-19-2009 11:09 AM ET (US)
I am so happy that Deisel is home. I will relay that to Al and Riley, if you haven't seen them already this morning. Don't you wonder what is in a dog's mind to do that?
Chillin & Grillin  5794
08-19-2009 12:12 PM ET (US)
Maybe Deisel was looking for some summertime love.
MP NYCPerson was signed in when posted  5795
08-19-2009 03:33 PM ET (US)
Can anyone recommend a good shop for picture reframing? It's around 2x3. Thanks. And glad Deisel is home after what may have been some interesting adventures!
Island Bob  5796
08-20-2009 10:42 AM ET (US)
Sandra,

Glad to hear Deisel is OK. Any idea where he went? What was he doing when found? They sure have a mind of their own from time to time. We had a German Shepard (Jack) that made it to the Chase Point area of the mainland from Cow Island. We think he went looking for us. His swim was likely 3/4 of a mile at dusk, near as we can figure. Could not believe he did that.

Welcome home Deisel!

IB
mlmack  5797
08-23-2009 08:31 AM ET (US)
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will  5798
08-26-2009 01:58 PM ET (US)
HI ALL, I AM IN THE MARKET FOR A 21'BOWRIDER WITH A SPORTS SEATING PACKAGE IF ANYONE HEARS OF ONE IN GOOD CONDITION GIVE ME A CALL 344 1518 WILL OF 90 COW ISLAND. ALSO I HAVE A 20'3"SEARAY WITH LOTS OF EXTRAS AND TRAILOR. ITS 1996 AND HAS 360 HOURS AND RECORDS IF YOU KNOW ANYONE INTERESTED.
Ron  5799
09-01-2009 09:13 PM ET (US)
From the 8/26 Board of Selectmen meeting:

Cow Island – Steve Berry was present to participate in the discussion of camping on the property owned by the town located on Cow Island. The Selectmen have agreed to review/revise the overnight camping ordinance for Cow Island. People will be allowed to camp overnight on the town owned property on Cow Island with permission and a fire permit issued by the Tuftonboro Fire Department.
CrusoePerson was signed in when posted  5800
09-03-2009 07:27 AM ET (US)
Check it out. Someone swimming Alton to Center Harbor and back. Maybe we should join him next year ... MPC what do you think?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_...h_man_swimming.html
JTA  5801
09-04-2009 07:58 AM ET (US)
I have trouble getting my boat from Center Harbor to Alton and back.
Watcher  5802
09-04-2009 10:16 AM ET (US)
TO ALL COW ISLANDERS AND SURROUNDING TUFTONBORO ISLANDERS:

Beware of a small developer purchasing land in your area. There is a guy who has been buying lots and or houses with large parcels of land and then subsequently subdividing the lot and reselling the lots/houses. In itself the process is pretty much legal. However, this particular person has been known to begin clear-cutting lots without actually owning the land. What I mean is once this guy has a P&S he begins ILLEGALLY cutting bushes and trees with little to no regard of the Shoreland Protection Act. His M.O. is to come in for a couple hours at a time strike fast, clear cut a few trees and bushes and then take off before anyone is the wiser. He will do this activity over the course of a few weeks. Right now he is trying to do this in the area of the mid-70's on Cow Island near Little Birch Island. My advice is to TAKE PICTURES!!!! If you have a lot or property for sale near you TAKE PICTURES!!!! This will go a very long way with the state and town so that we can prevent future destruction of the land on our islands. This same person is responsible for destruction of shore-land in the Mid-60's section of Cow near the Barbers Pole and there was talk of an issue on another Tuftonboro Island. Beware and take pictures and call the town code enforcer. They will take this seriously and they will act to prevent this individual from further destroying shore-front on our islands.

Thank You
Watcher
Little Bear  5803
09-04-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the heads-up. I believe what you are describing is called Timber Trespassing and can result in heavy fines in the State of NH.
hazelnut  5804
09-04-2009 10:39 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the info.

I abut one of the "said projects." I can only say "no comment."
Zeke  5805
09-04-2009 10:49 AM ET (US)
yeah, this guy makes my skin crawl.
JTA  5806
09-05-2009 07:32 AM ET (US)
OK, I'll keep my eyes and ears open during the week.
JTA  5807
09-06-2009 07:26 AM ET (US)
I'm in training for the horseshoe tournament. Does anyone have some prescription strength Ibuprofin that I can tap into?
phil  5808
09-06-2009 02:53 PM ET (US)
What's this guys name ?
LCR  5809
09-08-2009 12:36 PM ET (US)
Watcher: Thanks for the post. We are in the area of 70 Cow and know who this guy is. He is DEFINATELY someone to keep an eye on.!!!!
steve29Person was signed in when posted  5810
09-08-2009 12:47 PM ET (US)
Islanders, I have a new solid core luan interior door with adjustable jams,never used but has minor trim damage. 2ft/6in swings rt. Free to a good island home. 29 COW 547-6349
JTA  5811
09-08-2009 03:25 PM ET (US)
I kayaked over there today ... no one around and it looks OK. Here's the problem. The owner on one side bought at least two lots in the original sub-division. On the other side, I think they own 3 lots. There is nice spacing between the existing camps. The original sub-division was based on 100' lake frontage I believe. These lots are small. I don't think the town should allow those properties to be split back. These camps have existed since the 60's and now they're shoe-horning in new (and bigger) buildings. Yech!
LCR  5812
09-09-2009 04:02 PM ET (US)
Steve29: just left you message.. might be interested in the door if it will fit.. were at 70 Cow.
Chillin & Grillin  5813
09-10-2009 01:03 PM ET (US)
I have a rack in Harilla's for rent for winter storage. Available from 10/10 until 5/01/10. I bring my run-about home for the winter which leaves the rack open. If anyone is interested call me at 860-614-8223. The rack will fit up to 20.5'.

Now to share my frustration:
As most of you know, the board of directors will not allow larger boats then the rack is listed for which means I must pay for 3rd party off -site storage of my other boat (a work pontoon) instead of placing it in the rack that I pay for each year. The use of that rack for winter storage will not: Jam the docks up and is within the weight capacity of the new racks. Please help me understand this? Anyone?
JTA  5814
09-11-2009 07:31 AM ET (US)
Oh boy! Tomorrow's the Cow Island Horseshoe Tournament.
Island Bob  5815
09-11-2009 08:25 AM ET (US)
9/11/9

All,

Horseshoe Tourament is still a go. Weather indicates possible AM showers and clearing in the afternoon.

Hope to see all here at 90 Cow Island. We have some dockage and can use some spots at neighbors docks. If you can walk here, please do. So far response has been good.

IB
hazelnut  5816
09-12-2009 11:54 AM ET (US)
Sorry we didn't make it up. Weather was a factor and just pure laziness on our part ha haha. Hope it is/was a blast.
JTA  5817
09-12-2009 08:49 PM ET (US)
The HS Tournament was great! Thanks to I Bob and Penny!!
Rack owner  5818
09-13-2009 09:36 AM ET (US)
To Chillin and Grillin

You need to review a couple of things.

First is the declaration of Condominium.This specifies the ownership you have of the condominium and the powers that the board of directors have. Pay close attention to the limited common area provisions. The dimensions of the limited common area you own are specified in the second thing you need to review which is the plan for the specific building your rack is located in. These drawings are referred to in the declaration. All this if filed in the Carroll count registry of deeds. Unfortunately these are not available on line which means a visit to the registry.Aso you will
 will find that the dimensions of this limited common area are different than the document the board of directors are using.There also are no weight limitations documented in the registry. The document the board of directors is relying upon that shows length height and weight limits is not part of the declaration. The true limitations of the limited common arae are what was recorded in the registry and only include length height and width. As a practical matter weight limitations should be based of the nameplate capacities of the association fork truck.You will also find that the fork truck has a much larger capacity than the document that the board is using.The board certainly is within its rights to limit boat weight to the safe limits of the fork truck. Also in the declaration there is a provision that the dimensions of the limited common area cannot be changed without the unanimous consent(not just a majority) of ALL unit owners.No one seems to know where this document the board of directors is using came from except that it originated around the same time the condominium was formed. This document has no force of law and as a matter of fact the declaration and plans that were recorded when the condominium was created do have the force of law and are meant to prevent disputes as to the ownership of limited common area.That is why the State set the law up in the first place. As a practical matter the board will tell the manager of the condo to manage it as they direct. If this violates the declaration then the only recourse is to convince them they are in error and have them change the policy of go the expensive due process route.
Good luck
hazelnut  5819
09-13-2009 12:56 PM ET (US)
Hello Rack Owner,

Thanks for the input. Question: Don't our deeds specify length height and width? If so isn't that all the board needs? If we purchased the length height and width as say 21, 10, 8 for example wouldn't we have to abide by that?

Thanks
LCR  5820
09-13-2009 04:25 PM ET (US)
IB & IP: Thanks for a wonderful time.. Even with the rain it was still a fun day. Congrats to all the winners!

MPC: You sure were sweatin it out for a while there... almost beaten by a couple of youngins.....ha!
Chillin & Grillin  5821
09-14-2009 09:24 AM ET (US)
To Rack Owner,

Thanks for the info. It is certainly helpful

Do you know if anyone has a copy for review of the declaration, limited common are provisions or the plans for the "old" buildings avaialble at the club? As you probably know, my deed doesn't specify size criteria.
phil  5822
09-14-2009 02:41 PM ET (US)
IB and Penny thanks for the great horse shoe tourney. And thanks LCR for the calling of the games. We certainly could hear ya. And Dave for all of his raking the pits prowess.

Some real good players this year. Mike and partner, Zak and his partner.

Super time as always.
Ron  5823
09-14-2009 02:50 PM ET (US)
Aah

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Rack owner  5824
09-14-2009 07:32 PM ET (US)
Hazelnut,
You need to go back in the chain of title. If the description in your deed is any different than the original declaration I would be surprised. My bet is that you will find it refers to the original declaration somewhere.
 
  Changes in descriptions are not uncommon. If they are in error that is what title insurance is for. Your policy pays for any corrections needed. When you buy property it needs to be described well enough so it is clear what is being transferred.

This is how my deed works. It refers to the book and page of the previous owners deed. It also refers to the declaration book and page. Nowhere in the deed itself are dimensions mentioned. You have to go to the declaration to see that it refers to the plans of the racks and the plan book and page numbers. What was written in your deed really only refers to the transactions. As far as the board of directors they only need to be concerned that you own a specific rack and that you have the rights provided in the declaration. Just because someone writes something in a description in a deed does not make it come to pass. for example if I sold the rack to my daughter and changed the description to say it was a 50 foot rack it does not make the board treat you as if your rack was bigger.
The declaration rules.
LCR  5825
09-15-2009 01:36 PM ET (US)
Phil: Should I take that as a COMPLIMENT????? haha
phil  5826
09-15-2009 01:51 PM ET (US)
Yup. Your calls made it alot of fun.
Island Bob  5827
09-15-2009 08:17 PM ET (US)
9/15/9
All,

A big thank you to all who participated in the 4th Annual Horseshoe Tournament. A special thanks to those who helped out, score calling, settling disputes, making rules as we went along, the food donations, the cooks, the sand donors, the conversation, etc. And yes, a congratulations to the winners, Mike and Rocky, Zak and Joe and Phil and Judd. We won't let no stinking rain stop our tournament (not quite like the weatherman predicted).

Mark you calendars for the 5th Annual Cow Island Horseshoe Tournament which again will be scheduled for the 1st Saturday after Labor Day and the rain date will be the 2nd Saturday after Labor Day.

IB & IP
LCR  5828
09-18-2009 03:46 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-18-2009 03:46 PM
Just to set the record straight: Zak is Zach. So when next years WINNERS are posted his name will be spelled correctly.
JTA  5829
09-20-2009 08:29 AM ET (US)
Zaque?
LCR  5830
09-20-2009 08:34 AM ET (US)
JTA: Don't get cute.. he takes great offense in his name being spelled incorrectly and he already kicked YOUR butt in shoes, so you best watch your step, He's only gonna be bigger and better next year. HA!
phil  5831
09-20-2009 04:29 PM ET (US)
Ya and he kicked Mrs. JTA too. Go Zak.
JTA  5832
09-20-2009 08:36 PM ET (US)
We were a pure Cow Island team. If that ruled, we'd be the champs!
JTA  5833
09-21-2009 08:02 AM ET (US)
Now LCR, it seems to me that you were the one who referred to me as "TJA" on this very forum. I went into the bathroom and cried for hours each time you did that. So, I understand Zach's upset. I merely thought that a boy his age would want to consider some alternate spellings of his name. My apologies.
(BTW, I was very impressed with Zach and Joe in the tournament)
LCR  5834
09-21-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)
TJA (OOPS JTA).::: I know.... I was SO proud of myself that I've been getting your name right. Hazelnut must be proud of me too..!!!!!
JTA  5835
09-21-2009 06:04 PM ET (US)
Oh Hazelnut ... MIA.
Island Bob  5836
09-21-2009 08:11 PM ET (US)
Sorry Zach, just wanted to give you credit that was well earned.

IB
hazelnut  5837
09-21-2009 09:15 PM ET (US)
JTA, just trying to outdo your stretch of absence in the early summer. ha ha ha. You know how it used to be when you worked? Once you get back in the wing all your weekends book up! I'm sure you're enjoying the quiet?
JTA  5838
09-22-2009 07:45 AM ET (US)
Yes Mr. Nut, I'm enjoying it very much. I've come to the conclusion that September is the best month up here.
CrusoePerson was signed in when posted  5839
09-22-2009 10:15 PM ET (US)
JTA, that is something we have known for years. . . too bad you had to retire to figure it out, lol.
Island Bob  5840
09-23-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)
JTA,

October can be very nice also. Just watch the end of the month for early morning freezing of the water pipes.

IB
Ron  5841
09-23-2009 08:34 PM ET (US)
Yep, plenty of docks at the towns; water like a millpond most of the time; peace and quiet; yet there's still quite a few folks out here on the island!
JTA  5842
09-24-2009 08:08 AM ET (US)
Water pipes don't freeze in Florida IB.
Zeke  5843
09-24-2009 06:11 PM ET (US)
yeah,you better start practicing because he might win next year!
JTA  5844
09-28-2009 07:55 AM ET (US)
Zeke, are you Zak?
will  5845
09-30-2009 11:37 AM ET (US)
IB, I PLAN ON BEING OUT TO COW THIS WEEKEND AS LONG AS THE RAIN HOLDS OFF.
LETS PUT THE FLOAT BACK AND PULL IT AGAIN JUST FOR THE EXERCISE...NOT
ANY WORD ON MOM'S TESTS?
Zeke  5846
09-30-2009 07:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-30-2009 07:51 PM
JTA are you TJA or JAT?
Island Bob  5847
10-01-2009 09:31 AM ET (US)
Will,

Rain Saturday, Sunday looks OK with some sun. I put the swim platform back in just for fun, lets take it out in the rain on Saturday. Or should we wait for snow?

Mom's tests have not come back yet.

IB
Island Bob  5848
10-02-2009 01:35 PM ET (US)
All,

These are two attractively priced properties that posters/viewers of the Forum may have an interest in:

http://www.nnerenmls.com/nne/maildoc/a002o56240.html

127 Sodom Road, Tuftonboro at $44,900 with a motivated seller. Small 3 season camp with .5 acres, make an offer. Place to hang out, barbecue, sleep, build new some day, etc. MLS # 2717334

http://www.nnerenmls.com/nne/maildoc/e003VZ7720.html

106 Cow Island, Tuftonboro. Orchard Cove, can't get on an island for much less then this. MLS # 2799024

I thought posters/viewers would like to know about these two properties.

IB
phil  5849
10-02-2009 01:59 PM ET (US)
Thanks for posting those IB.
Alan  5850
10-03-2009 06:55 AM ET (US)
The Selectmen will hold a Work Session Tuesday on October 6, 2009 at 9:30am going directly into Non-Public session, per RSA 91-A:3,II(a) returning to the Work Session at 10:00am. At 10:00am the Selectmen will be visiting Cow Island to view the property and gather information for revising the camping ordinance.
KX35FORD@aol.com  5851
10-03-2009 09:06 AM ET (US)
In a message dated 10/2/2009 1:36:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, qtopic-18-2DcQnXwaD2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

for much less then this. MLS # 2799024




IB , # 106 ? $ ???????? kx
Island Bob  5852
10-03-2009 10:44 AM ET (US)
KX

Not sure what you are asking?

106 Cow Island is listed for $168,900.

IB
KX35FORD@aol.com  5853
10-03-2009 11:37 AM ET (US)
IB , Thank you as that was what I was asking for. Sorry for my crazy post. kc
JTA  5854
10-03-2009 02:15 PM ET (US)
Hey, where is everyone? What's a little rain?
phil  5855
10-03-2009 06:20 PM ET (US)
JTA,

You still out there.
JTA  5856
10-03-2009 07:02 PM ET (US)
My new home Phil.
BSD  5857
10-06-2009 09:23 AM ET (US)
Looking for a boat trailer to use/rent for the winter. It is for my Dad. He is selling an 18ft. Penn Yan, 1994 I believe. It was an island boat in a previous life, so it is allowed air time here. Good condition, great little commuter. The trailer is so it won't be racked at Lanes End. This way he can show potential buyers.
JTA  5858
10-07-2009 12:51 PM ET (US)
If you are coming up this weekend and need gas, you should know that Pier 19 is closed for the season. I went to Trexler's today ... you go to the service docks which are inside the permanent Quayside docks.
JTA  5859
10-07-2009 04:41 PM ET (US)
Whoa! I was under attack by acorns this afternoon. It's dangerous out here on the island. I Bob never warned me about this!
Ron  5860
10-07-2009 04:44 PM ET (US)
JTA, I told you those oaks were good for nuttin' but firewood. Time to get the axe Mr.Bunyan.
Island Bob  5861
10-07-2009 08:30 PM ET (US)
JTA,

Everyday is an adventure on the island. How are you liking October so far?

IB
LCR  5862
10-08-2009 06:42 AM ET (US)
Heard a rumor that Pier 19 will NOT reopen next year. Anyone else hear that?
Alan  5863
10-08-2009 06:44 AM ET (US)
Is the store also closed for the season or just the boat gas? Thanks.
phil  5864
10-08-2009 07:16 AM ET (US)
According to the sign. Last day for the store was Oct 3. It's now closed.
Alan  5865
10-08-2009 08:36 AM ET (US)
Thanks Phil.
mms  5866
10-08-2009 02:24 PM ET (US)
The fate of the Pier 19 store is unknown at this point. I'll be contacting the owner over the winter for status.
BSD  5867
10-08-2009 04:31 PM ET (US)
I talked to the store owners husband last spring. His wife is Buddy Le Roux's daughter. He told me that even if Roger doesn't want to run the store his wife will find someone else. Until they sell the property, it makes sense to them to operate it during the summer to help curb the fixed costs of owning it.
JTA  5868
10-08-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)
I Bob,
October has been great so far, a bit breezy today (I'm sure you know). BTW, do you have a quarter cord of seasoned and split hardwood that I could borrow?
Island Bob  5869
10-08-2009 08:34 PM ET (US)
JTA,

Watch those freezing pipes when the next full moon appears.

On the wood question, yes. Payback is 3 full cords of seasoned hardwood, cut, split and stacked in my wood shed by January 1, 2010. Any problems with that? Late payment will be an additional cord for evey 30 days late. Wood is like gold out here.

IB
cowgirl  5870
10-09-2009 05:36 AM ET (US)
Island Folks Beware: We discovered when we arrived back to the island in May that sometime during the winter or spring most of our wood pile had been stolen.

Worth its weight in gold indeed.

Cowgirl
Ron  5871
10-09-2009 09:09 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-09-2009 09:13 AM
Yes, Cowgirl, same thing happened to us. Whoever the jerks are that are stealing the wood must not know how much work we do to get that wood in the first place and how much we depend on it for heat in the spring, on arrival. If I ever catch them, there will be hell to pay. I'll be watching this year!
cowgirl  5872
10-09-2009 01:48 PM ET (US)
Ron, do they come by boat or over the ice, do you know? It was quite a lot of wood and we wondered how they moved it.

At least they didn't burn it INSIDE our camp. That's just creepy...
Ron  5873
10-09-2009 03:08 PM ET (US)
I imagine they tow it on a sled behind their snowmobiles. IB mentioned he saw a lot of tracks on my property last year.
Island Bob  5874
10-09-2009 06:57 PM ET (US)
Ron & Cowgirl,

We joke from time to time about the wood out here but it is no joke when it is missing/stolen and you depend on it for heat. I'll keep an extra eye on the situation this year as I'm here all winter. Cowgirl, what number Cow Island are you? BTW, just spent most of the day splinting and staking wood and that is not to mention the work in getting it here.

JTA, if you seriously need some wood for the fall have some delivered to 19 Mile Bay Wharf and utilize my pontoon boat to transport it to your place. I honestly don't have any extra.

IB
JTA  5875
10-09-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)
Stealing firewood is kind of like siphoning gas from someone's tank. No, it's worse. Gas is easily replaced.
(IB ... I'm actually OK on wood.)
SAS  5876
10-10-2009 09:04 AM ET (US)
JTA....You will never run out of wood!
To the wood thiefs!  5877
10-10-2009 09:06 AM ET (US)
Make sure you check every stolen piece for that stick of dynamite...he telltale will be the wood plug in the end!
cowgirl  5878
10-10-2009 09:34 AM ET (US)
Island Bob, we are at 280 Cow, across from Hole-In-The-Wall.

We haven't replaced the wood stolen; there's not much left to risk being caught (we hope!) Next season we're going to rethink where and how we store it - maybe out behind the cottage, maybe in a locked wood shed.

Thanks so much for your offer! We appreciate a friendly eye on our place.

Cowgirl
Island Bob  5879
10-11-2009 08:51 AM ET (US)
Cowgirl,

Drop me an email at robertparmenter@comcast.net please.

IB
Zeke  5880
10-12-2009 10:50 AM ET (US)
I think this is all a joke, who would steal wood around here anyways?
JTA  5881
10-12-2009 01:29 PM ET (US)
Rain and snow in the forecast? I Bob never warned me about this!
JTA  5882
10-12-2009 01:34 PM ET (US)
I just thought of a scary new amusement park ride. You send a guy out across a lake in a 14' aluminum boat with a 20 MPH wind in his face. To keep from being blown away, he needs to go close to full speed; any slower he gets blown away or maybe flipped. Very exciting!!
phil  5883
10-12-2009 02:13 PM ET (US)
JTA,

Before my pontoon boat the first year I used to come over in a 14 ft aluminum boat with a 15 hp motor so I know exactly what you are talking about. Big wind, big scare. Wear the life vest
djg  5884
10-12-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)
We started out with a 16' too but now our main transportation is a 17' aluminum bass boat, not a whole lot better. We left yesterday with a 100lb empty propane tank, the contents of the fridge, Riley, etc. and battled the wind all the way to 19 Mile Bay. I have full faith in my captain and we always wear our rain gear and life jacket in those conditions.
hazelnut  5885
10-12-2009 03:09 PM ET (US)
JTA, Let me know if you need to borrow the Whaler. I'd hate to see you get flipped by that wind!
Island Bob  5886
10-12-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)
JTA,

You have too much time on your hands. Amusement ride??? You need a job.

Are you still on the island? Watch those freesing pipes tonight through at least Friday AM. Give me a call on cell, 617-921-1314 please

IB
JTA  5887
10-13-2009 08:58 PM ET (US)
I Bob, we're on the road.
JTA  5888
10-15-2009 09:55 PM ET (US)
OK, we're in Florida. 79 degrees at 10:00 p.m.
Snow??
Ron  5889
10-16-2009 05:54 AM ET (US)
JTA glad you made it south to the flatlands safe and sound. The temp here is a balmy 73......no wait, that's 37. Sandwich mountains have snow on them. Hey, at least we've got mountains!
LCR  5890
10-16-2009 08:08 AM ET (US)
JTA: You will be happy to know you left just in time.. snowing here in Shirley!!!
phil  5891
10-16-2009 11:13 AM ET (US)
27 degrees this morning in Vermont
will  5892
10-20-2009 02:57 PM ET (US)
IB YOU SHOULD HAVE COME TO THE YMCA CAMP YARD SALE. I ENDED UP WITH 2 12'ALUMINUM BOATS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE AND THERE WAS A WHALER I COULD HAVE PICKED UP FOR JUST UNDER A GRAND WITH 25 HP AND TRAILOR. GOOD THING WE BLEW THE PIPES OUT LAST WEEKEND...I FEEL OK ABOUT THAT. TALK TO YOU LATER. WILL
will  5893
10-20-2009 02:58 PM ET (US)
PHIL,THANKS FOR THE GOLF CLUBS .I GAVE THEM TO A YOUNG GIRL WWHO WANTS TO TAKE LESSONS. WILL
phil  5894
10-20-2009 03:50 PM ET (US)
Your welcome Will. See you next summer.
MP NYCPerson was signed in when posted  5895
10-23-2009 11:47 AM ET (US)
Just checked out some of the webcams. Are the leaves really still that gorgeous? But at least tell me it's cold or wet or some other reason I wouldn't want to be there now!
Ron  5896
10-23-2009 12:42 PM ET (US)
A little past peak, but still beautiful. Temps were cool over the past week though, and weather was a bit more showery north of Concord than it was to the south. But it sure was peaceful! We're done for the season now, back in MA last eve, now listening to commercial leaf blowers and lawnmowers.
Ron  5897
10-23-2009 12:52 PM ET (US)
For those islanders still in the area on Monday 10/26, there will be a discussion at 7:15 PM at the Board of Selectmen's Meeting, regarding public camping on Cow Island.
MP NYCPerson was signed in when posted  5898
10-23-2009 02:01 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Ron. Bet they sound esp. noisy!
Island Bob  5899
10-24-2009 12:09 PM ET (US)
If today's rain and wind don't rip too many leaves off the trees on Cow Island I predict that Sunday the 25th will be peak foliage on the island. Just letting everyone know it is raining fairly heavy and we are about 7 degrees away from snow. Ain't that special.

IB
will  5900
10-28-2009 10:22 AM ET (US)
I HAVE A 12 FOOT ALUMINUM BOAT FOR SALE IF ANYONE WANTS A BACK UP BOAT. HAS 3 SEATS AND NEEDS A PLUG AND ONE BACK HANDLE. REASONABLY PRICED. ALSO LOOKING FOR A SMALL OUT BOARD MOTOR THAT RUNS. THANKS ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER WEATHER THIS WEEKEND. WILL
M&BCPerson was signed in when posted  5901
10-28-2009 03:06 PM ET (US)
Hi Will,

I am looking for a small aluminum boat to get back and forth in the off seasons. If the price is right i amybe interested..
Alan  5902
10-30-2009 05:28 AM ET (US)
Taxes up by just over 13 percent. Read that in a granite state news article from this weeks paper.
Ron  5903
10-31-2009 09:56 PM ET (US)
Everybody has had to spend less this year and probably next, but the government somehow needs to spend more. Sumthin's broken here.
Kerk  5904
10-31-2009 10:16 PM ET (US)
IB, Waved to you on the way into Orchard Cove today. I bet your ride back out was wet!! When we left I had second thoughts about getting back to Main land . WOW were the waves Large ond rolling swells were something else to deal with in the 14 Ft. mirror craft and having to cross going side ways instead of head on.. We were soaked and took a couple over the side ahich added a lot of water to boat. Made it but had doubts for a few moments. I hope your ride was better. kc
JTA  5905
11-01-2009 10:54 AM ET (US)
I imagine that the town received less money from the state and so is passing the difference on to us.
Alan  5906
11-01-2009 11:39 AM ET (US)
I guess cutting spending like most famlies have to do in these times is not something the town Selectmen can do. Time to throw the whole bunch out next election.
Ron  5907
11-01-2009 07:54 PM ET (US)
I think it was the County portion of the tax bill that went up.
will  5908
11-02-2009 11:08 AM ET (US)
HI MBC. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ONE OF THE ALUMINUM 12 FOATS YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME BY MY HOUSE BEFORE THE SNOW FLIES. EVEN IF YOU BOUGHT IT I WOULD NOT MIND KEEPING IT IN THE YARD UNTIL YOU PICK IT UP IN THE SPRING.CALL MY CELL FOR A PRICE....PRETTY CHEAP... WILL
Ciampa, Michael R CW3 RES USAR USARC  5909
11-03-2009 09:02 AM ET (US)
Hi Will,

If you could email me at michael.ciampa@us.army.mil,we could set up a time to come by and see the boat. Also I then can get you number and address..
Thanks

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Island Bob  5910
11-03-2009 07:34 PM ET (US)
Kerk,

Sometimes it gets wild out here. Waves and wind have yet to keep me away. Snow and fog, now that is another story. The wind did give me problems docking the boat and I had to check on the boat a few times during the night. Next day I saw a total of 6 boats on the lake and it was a beautiful day????????

IB
Bob McWhirter  5911
11-03-2009 10:11 PM ET (US)
IB........Were Abby and I part of the count. Good to see you and Penny.....it was a beautiful afternoon.

regards/Bob
djg  5912
11-04-2009 02:53 PM ET (US)
Aloha Cow Islanders, I am in Hawaii but imagining a beautiful fall day on Winni!
Island Bob  5913
11-06-2009 11:54 AM ET (US)
Bob & Abby,

Yes, you were the last boat of the day. 29 degrees on the Cow this AM.

IB
Island Bob  5914
11-06-2009 12:03 PM ET (US)
DJG,

Nice fall weekend coming up, approaching 60 degrees, Sun, Mon & Tues.

IB
djg  5915
11-06-2009 12:38 PM ET (US)
IB,

Nice to know but here on Waikiki Beach it will be in the mid 80's. It is time to move here! I don't want to come back!
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