TERRY - thanks for the info re the shops near Bridge Road. I seem to recall the Post Office was quite a large building on the Broadway (as compared with those outlets today), or at least, the interior made it appear so. I used to walk up Bridge Road to get to our home in Northumberland Gardens (was it via Victoria Road?). Yes, I did get the 649 bus at a stop opposite the Town Hall which is where that parade of shops I spoke of in my earlier posting was situated. I recall the wheels of the trolleybuses always seemed so big (or was it that I was small at the time?)and had a peculiar warm, dusty smell about them in the summer months. I have mentioned it before but my cousin Billy Dumbleton owned the BROADWAY CAFE during those years and his mother (Alice) and several of my older cousins often helped out in the kitchen there. I used to like popping in there after attending Saturday morning pictures at the Empire (and then the Granada) cinema. The rear of the premises were virtually directly opposite the cinema so I could access the cafe that way - via the kitchen.
I had a good friend, Derrick Ives, who lived on the Broadway, in a flat above a shop near to where the road curved into Church Street, almost directly opposite the Railway Tavern pub and the 128 bus stop. I also recall the railway crossing gates beyond which lay the Green with all its market stalls. Funny how things pop into one's mind but recalling those gates reminds me of when as a small child, possibly around 1945-6, I first heard the song 'Would you like to swing on a star' playing from somewhere nearby (was there a record stall or wireless shop near there possibly?)

No Colin. The post office was farther along towards the Town Hall. On the corner of Bridge Rd.was a tobacconists, then I think it was Martin's toy shop, then the Post office. That road was The Broadway. You would have had to board a trolleybus at the stop opposite the Town Hall, near Fred Wades gentlemens outfitters as all the buses that entered the Broadway terminated there, having turned round by the war memorial. The only other exit for buses was Church St. where the 128 left for Chase Farm Hospital. If I am wrong folks, let me down gently.
Mad Dave. I didn't have a lot of trouble with clutch cables but they were a nuisance when it happened. Another problem with early model scooters was "whiskering" You could be riding merrily along when suddenly the motor just stopped. If you took the sparkplug out you would find a tiny whisker of carbon that had shorted the points. It improved when the ratio of oil to petrol was lowered.

Re Vespa's, The main problem with them was the clutch cable always breaking. I owned a couple of Vespa's in my time as a "MOD". My girl friend (now my wife) and I could replace them in about 2 minutes, I always carried two in my "bubble". The Mad Dave nickname was given to me by the crowd from The Kings Head and Golden Fleece, because of the way I rode my Vespa's! I'm totally the opposite nowadays on the road.

Re Fish and Chip shop on Granada Hill (New Road), it was not Bernedes, the name is in this forum somewhere as this was discussed somewhile back. Bernedes chippy was in Silver Street, they also had two wet fish shops in Edmonton, one near The Angel (Tottenham side) and one on The Green.

FIRTHS - yes, remember that concave window very well. Wasn't the Post Office situated next door? Also on same side of road going north, almost directly opposite the Town Hall, there was another row of shops that included a pawnbrokers, a shoe shop (was it Dolcis?) but I can't recall the others now. Bus stop located there, too, where I used to catch the 649 trolleybus service to get to my Nan's at Ponders End.

Slow down Jan, you're getting me dizzy dashing all over Edmonton! In days of old when New Rd.hill existed, St.James's Rd ran off New Rd. and ran down to Queens RD in an S bend. Queens Rd. only opened on to Town Rd.it was closed at the other end. Off St.James's was land where market traders stored their barrows.
Mark,and Ron. My Vespa lasted me from 1961 until 1967. I took it by train up to Lancashire when I moved here, had a reconditioned engine fitted but got rid of it when my wife became pregnant and was advised not to ride on again.

Pete i can remember a hat stall near the cafe in the arcade also a fabric stall Think the guy that ran it was called Morrie or Monty Wasnt there a food stall at the entrance on the Green side? Its 30 years + since l lived in Edmonton so memory is fuzzy. I do remember the furniture shop Dales on the Green itself coz l had to help my mum carry a kitchen table home from there once - Still have it. and Firths with the curved glass front window That it St James' didnt that join up with Town road??
Jan

Within the Market area there was Bamfield's wool shop. Mansfield's, clothing, and also Maypole's who sold provisions. The Fish & Chip shop was Berndes. 'Granada/Empire Hill' was actually called New Road, it was not a hill as such, only a bridge over the lower level railway line. This road being constructed to divert traffic away from the Market and the level crossing.

Jan, can you remember what traders were in the arcade, I remember a pet shop at the entrance, someone remembered a cafe and someone mentioned rolls of carpet and lino, I also seem to remember someone selling small furniture items tables and chairs etc.

Well done Jan the dress shop was on the cnr of St jame's Road which ran back on to the hill.The houses on the hill remind me of the ones you use to see in the Ovaltine advert.

Just read back over some of the last post re Hertford Road opposite Woolies. I can remember some of the shops between Monmouth Rd and Town Road Car sales on the corner, carpet 'shop' believe it was Whitneys, Bernies Ladies Fashions, Shenkins Gift shop, a warehouse, pet shop, fish shopwhere they sold live eels out of a tank in the window Bertrums?? the jewellers not sure after that but can remember some houses and then a cafe that laid back a little. We had dinner there when dad was on night shift, some more houses and then the toy shop So in my reconning we are at Town road. Another cafe - Fridays for egg and chips - vague about the next bit but can remember a dress shop on the corner of the next road, Balham rd? where the market stalls were stored then something else and the a fish and chip shop. That should get us nearly to the top of Granada Hill or Empire hill whatever it was called. On the other side of the Hill was a fabric shop Silvers but after that am not at all sure I know that the covered arcade had an entrance from the hill as well as one of the pubs from the Green. Was the Exhibition was on the corner opp Town road?

Hi all, just thought I would let you know we have found more old pictures of Edmonton, some have been up before, but some are new ones. There are Upper and Lower Edmonton streets & places. I have started uploading them onto ebay as from last night.

Hi again Eddymonton,
                 I think your cousin would have married Joan as I can account for the others.

Hi Dave I would have no Idea of there names,But my uncle had a shop not on the green but close to Wheatleys,sort of opposite the Crescent,J T Sharpe & sons,builders and builders merchants,well it was one of his lads who married one of these girls.

Hi Eddymonton
             The Lees daughters names were Trixie, Nellie and Joan, I do believe there was another one but I can't bring her name to mind just now.

Hi Dave thanks for that,I do remember the cottages,the blacksmith,no cant say I recall that also of interest one of my elder cousins married a daughter of the lees,I have no idea who,but it went pear shaped,I was a small lad so do not have many details.Much to young maybe 6 or 7 years old.