Two of those riders in the photo are in the film can you spot them Thae Saints are in red.

1962 SPURS

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Alan.

Great stuff Alan. I've been considering an idea, slightly tongue in cheek, to create an Edmonton overlay for Google earth. Anyone not familiar with google earth should definitely check it out, as you can do a sweeping low level fly through of anywhere in the world.

it allows anyone with the ability to include a 3D model of buildings and landmarks, that you can view as an overlayed layer on top ofthe standard model of the earth's surface provided by the google earth programme itself.

If you fly across North London there are models of Wembley stadium, White Hart Lane, and Emirates. but not surprisingly the tower blocks of Edmonton green are not yet included.

So any budding 3d modellers out there can have a go! I'm considering starting off with a model of the tower blocks, then doing a time travel over lay, of the old green, just as they have done for ancient and modern rome and athens.

Now this could take me 20 years of course ... But it might only take a few weekends. We'll see.

Good morning everyone, I had a great time in Paris with my pals, discovered we could order wine by the magnum lol. Just about recovered now.

Thanks to Alan for finding that 1962 pathe news reel on the Spurs brought back more memories of the time which I have showed and related to my son, he was amazed at the crowds which my friend Jean and I were amongst somewhere, I was 14 at the time, Every where was decked out in blue and white and we walked from Edmonton to Tottenham Town Hall, I lost a shoe at the crush getting across the Angel Junction pre widened, at the spurs ground the team went inside and came out on the balcony, onwards to Tottenham Town Hall and the same again, everyone was singing and cheering.

Does anyone else have memories of that day?

The Taylor Quads were born the same year as me, but I dont remember them from my childhood, they must have gone to a different school to me, I wonder what happened to them and where they are now.

I do remember the Cycle Track and seeing cycle races going on whilst being driven past, we called that area montague wreck, mostly we played in salmons brook or on the lea Valley railway line (steam Engines) putting pennies on the track to watch them get flattened, sometimes we would hide in the concret low sided 'bins' between the tracks dont know what they were really for but we would wait for the 'rumble' as trains passed, no malice intent we were just playing, cant remember when the electric trains started running on that line but it was long before the Edmonton Green line, and firstly it was just the 'fast trains' with the main being steam. We eventually gave up playing there as figured we couldnt out run the Electric Trains, I saw the only wild adders I've ever seen on Montague wreck, a family sunning themselves on the muddy banks of salmons brook.

Pauline.
Thanks for your details regarding the Maunders family.
Regards

Debbie

Margaret,

I too was in the crowd in 1962 on the pavement in the High Road opposite Pembury Road and being just 9 at the time didn't see too much. Until the open topper came along all I could really apart from a sea of legs and suits were those who had better vantage points from the windows of the accommodation above the shops. These days I have no interest in soccer whatsoever and haven't had since the early 1970s but being raised in Tottenham in the days when thousands got off the bus in Lordship Lane almost every other Saturday during the season and walked through Bruce castle Park to the ground (No Victoria Line then so the crowds travelled from Wood Green tube by bus to the top of Bruce Grove and walked from there) the parading of the cup was an event not to be missed.
We used to live in Hartham Road off Bruce Grove and it was a short walk from there to Tottenham High Road via Pembury Road. We'd crossed the road to the eastern side to get the better view, my father was not a soccer supporter but he liked fellow Irishman Danny Blanchflower as a personality, otherwise I doubt we'd have been in the crush at all. We were not disappointed as the bus passed with the cup held aloft. Going to Tottenham Town Hall was out of the question, but in any case I used to see it often enough as school swimming lessons were held at Tottenham Swimming Baths once a week. That in itself was an event as the trip from St. Francis de Sales (right opposite the Spurs) to the Baths was in a half cab coach, hired especially for the job, the highlight of the week for a boy interested in anything bus related.

The concrete bins on the railway would've held various items for the Permanent Way department, usually fine ballast for 'packing' the track by hand in the days before power 'packing' or 'tamping' machines. I used to play near a P.Way on the banks of the overhead line between Bruce Grove and White Hart Lane stations as an under 10 year old. There was a P.Way cabin built out of sleepers, tarred for waterproofing and with a tin roof which we would get inside and use as a den, a place to hide from passing trains. That was on the bank between Lordship lane and Ruskin Road as I recall.

You know when I think back to my childhood it's hard to believe just how protected kids are these days, we must all have led charmed lives or is it just that we were all very much more street wise?

Brian


On 08/02/2010 10:35, QT - margaret Baker wrote:

Good morning everyone, I had a great time in Paris with my pals,
discovered we could order wine by the magnum lol. Just about
recovered now.

Thanks to Alan for finding that 1962 pathe news reel on the
Spurs brought back more memories of the time which I have showed
and related to my son, he was amazed at the crowds which my
friend Jean and I were amongst somewhere, I was 14 at the time,
Every where was decked out in blue and white and we walked from
Edmonton to Tottenham Town Hall, I lost a shoe at the crush
getting across the Angel Junction pre widened, at the spurs
ground the team went inside and came out on the balcony, onwards
to Tottenham Town Hall and the same again, everyone was singing
and cheering.

Does anyone else have memories of that day?

The Taylor Quads were born the same year as me, but I dont
remember them from my childhood, they must have gone to a
different school to me, I wonder what happened to them and where
they are now.

I do remember the Cycle Track and seeing cycle races going on
whilst being driven past, we called that area montague wreck,
mostly we played in salmons brook or on the lea Valley railway
line (steam Engines) putting pennies on the track to watch them
get flattened, sometimes we would hide in the concret low sided
'bins' between the tracks dont know what they were really for
but we would wait for the 'rumble' as trains passed, no malice
intent we were just playing, cant remember when the electric
trains started running on that line but it was long before the
Edmonton Green line, and firstly it was just the 'fast trains'
with the main being steam. We eventually gave up playing there
as figured we couldnt out run the Electric Trains, I saw the
only wild adders I've ever seen on Montague wreck, a family
sunning themselves on the muddy banks of salmons brook.

Ref Alans post 7837

I worked for AB Pathe from 1964 to 1965 as a messenger boy based at Film House in Wardour St. On the Pathe website there is a clip entitled Philip Visits Pathe in which is shown the theatre where i spent the night prior to Sir Winston Churchills funeral. Prince Philip or Lord Mountbatten are probably sitting in the very seats where i spent a most uncomfortable but memorable night. Wasn't that interesting.

Well, trying to understand what others are using has certainly been interesting. Both John and I are not terribly computer competent. I started on Apple computers many years ago whilst working at Syracuse University, which then changed over to PC's. I'm back again to the Macs and love them. I have a laptop and John has the new streamlined mac with a large monitor.
Brian, I was amused by your comment that the latest macs were
difficult to take apart -- one of the main reasons John bought the Mac was because he loved the sculptural design..... but that's an
architect for you. He does use it a lot for photography and has become quite adept at restoring old family photographs (helped by our 15 year old grandson). John's is presently trying to become literate in computer aided architectural drawing now that he's researched various programs. He's actually quicker in hand drafting than the computer, but of course takes much longer when changes have to be made. Margaret, I worked with Bob Taylor, the quads dad, at the Etam factory -- he was such a nice man, quiet, friendly and good natured. He took a lot of ribald teasing from the workers about begetting quads and twins, because he was quite slender and not too tall.
Another memory from Etams - I was training to become a pattern cutter and taught to use a small electric saw to cut up to 2" high of fabric at a time. At the far end of our cutting table, in the corner, was a huge band saw which cut up many more levels of fabric. When the saw band broke, Bill, the operator, would shout "duck" and we would have to dive under the table to avoid the shattered pieces raining down on us...... hard to believe now. Maureen G

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What is now the Montagu Road Recreation field was, in the late 1940s an area of gravel pits. When the pits were exhausted they were filled in with rubbish and the site became known to us locals as simply the Dump.It was during this stage that the cycle speedway track was laid out. Eddy,if you rode for the Saints, you no doubt remember the Fairfield Aces, and Whipps Cross Comets to name but two of the opposition? One day some large mounds of earth appeared. Someone said that it was soil from the Spur's football pitch which was being re-laid. I never found out if that was true and thinking about it now, it was more likely to have been topsoil for laying the area out as a sports field.

Hi Terry here are a few names Tottenham Kangaroos,Whips Cross Comets,Hoddesdon Kangaroos,Warwick Lions,West Ham Penguins,a lot of others but the memory fails me.Later the Saints became the monarchs,I have no idea why,I got called up national Service and had a two year holiday in Germany.

Alan Perry


Fantastic

Hi Colin, regarding Brian Bingham I guess that I am not of much help to you so don't get excited.
When I was at Houndsfield Road School (close to Elizabeth Rise) during the war I was friendly with (someone) Bingham but I can't recall his given name.
He would be in his mid 70's now so probably older that Brian.

Ron Roe
St. Alphege Road
(1933-1951)

Edited by author 08-02-2010 19:32
Margaret - I watched the parade in 62 as well. My aunt was the manageress of the co-op dry cleaners, near the library, and my other aunt also worked there. I was allowed to decorate the window in blue and white ribbons, and other decorations (had a load of those animals with long flat beaks and fuzzy black hair, dressed in football shirts - does anyone remember them????) We were able to watch from just outside the shop.
There's a huge blown up photo of the parade, taken just past that spot, inside the visitors centre at Spurs - saw it when I took my club there on a visit last year. (no-one in the family likes football, so the 1st time I'd set foot there!)
Anyone else going to the Bootleg 60s at Millfield tomorrow night?

RON - thank you anyway for trying to find my former schoolmate, BRIAN BINGHAM. Sometimes it is very difficult to track down people after so many years but it's always worth a go. Thanks again.

Carol Sample

Glad you liked it. There's more little gems where that came from.

Alan Perry,
        Now we're finding out about your mispent yoof, what other dark secrets have you?