Actually, this is a good thing in a odd way. The state will have to pick up his hospital bills. Something like this can cost tens of thousands of dollars in no time at all. Of course rehab and condition monitoring will be included in the total if he recovers. He is making the bastards pay!
L. B.




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I have some news about Wil and it is not good news at all. He called me on Friday night and he didn't sound well and he was upset and I'm not surprised. He had just been released that day from the Intensive Care unit of a local hospital. It was a bit difficult to understand everything he was saying and keep it all straight but basically what I understand is that he had a blood clot and water developed around his heart which caused congestive heart failure. He collapsed and they rushed him by ambulance to the hospital where he says he also endured more complications when his esophagus was torn from his stomach. He bled internally and threw up four barf bags full of blood and almost bled to death. He called me to request that I contact a relative and inform them that he needed to call them. So I did that. I've known of other people in the past who had congestive heart problems. It is a very serious condition. I don't know if his situation was only a one time thing or if this something that he will have to deal with from now on.

In a message dated 10/25/2006 7:17:13 PM Central Standard Time,
qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> I have read the available information on Wil Hetherington. Has
> there been anything new since 2004? Also, MDOC web page shows
> Wil at Ojibway Camp in the U.P. Does anyone know if this address
> is correct to contact him today? I'm too old to be bitter about
> life's 'unfairness' - so, don't let the fact that I am a female
> prevent anyone from commenting. I might actually be of some
> help to some one concerned with the inequities of todays legal
> forums.
>

You can write Wil at:

William Hetherington
#186155
Ojibway Correctional Facility
N5705 Ojibway Road
Marenisco, MI 49947-9771

Women's voices should be heard in reference to official policies which are blatantly misandrist. Women ARE sometimes some of the most vocal members of men's rights organizations (like the NCFM). However, those who support misandrist official policies (men and women) are just as blatantly arrogant to women who speak out against them as they are men. Where women can make the most difference, in my opinion, is with other women who are still sitting on the fence about these issues. Sadly, I look around me and I see very few women willing to make such a stand. Too many swallow the propoganda of the feminists and the government that the current policies are the way to go. It is often only when the women themselves or members of their own families are touched by the injustices of the system (like the Colorado Congresswoman who recently was served a restraint order by another woman) that they decide that maybe the system is not that great a system after all. What really amazes me is that even active duty soldiers putting their very lives on the line are even targetted by these policies and the policy makers don't seem to care. I would still ask the question: Why should men put their lives on the line to protect a system that refuses to protect them from injustice? I would rather see the current system destroyed. But that's me. Other male voices are not as radical as mine - not yet. How much longer that situation will be the norm is anybody's guess.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

I have read the available information on Wil Hetherington. Has there been anything new since 2004? Also, MDOC web page shows Wil at Ojibway Camp in the U.P. Does anyone know if this address is correct to contact him today? I'm too old to be bitter about life's 'unfairness' - so, don't let the fact that I am a female prevent anyone from commenting. I might actually be of some help to some one concerned with the inequities of todays legal forums.

In a message dated 10/20/2006 7:06:50 AM Central Standard Time,
qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> A really great post Barry. It is a keeper for future reference.
>
> L.B.
>

Thanks :)

Barry

A really great post Barry. It is a keeper for future reference.

L.B.
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In a message dated 10/16/2006 12:30:50 PM Central Standard Time, qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> Dear Mr. or Ms. Dumbfounded,
>
Why is it that we should presume just because these young women are Wil's daughters that they are any less biased or pre-disposed to despise men and male culture than the vast majority of other young women in America today, via the massively anti-male biased feminized culture which influences them and the decisions they make in life? Or that they could be any less influenced by their vindictive mother to believe what she tells them to believe?

My parents divorced when I was 8 or 9 years old. My dad and my mom's boyfriend duked it out in our house. My dad hit my mom's boyfriend and cut his ear almost off. My mom took a wooden salad bowl and hit my dad over his head giving him a big gash. I never heard a thing because I was sound asleep. I only remember drops of blood were on our rubber boots that were laying at the bottom of the basement stairs when we had to put them on to go to school the next morning. And a few nights after that our dad came back and said he was taking us with him. Mom told him no and then he said he only wanted to take my little sister. But she told him he wasn't taking any of us. I remember that much. The rest has always been either unknown to me or I didn't understand it because I was too young to understand. Maybe the oldest of Wil's daughters was older than I was at that time in my life. But still - how much does a child really understand or remember about what really happened? Especially when the father is not around to tell his side of what happened. They only ever hear their mother's side - like I did.

And even today in my own family, my sisters consistently poison the minds of their children against their own fathers - particularly girls. In America today it seems that largely what a teenage girl wants is more important than the respect that her father needs from her. Just because a man and woman are not getting along, or worse, just because a woman has an opportunity to gain an advantage and sacrifices her relationship and the well being of her family for the short-term gain, that is NOT a reason for these women to drive a wedge between the relationships between a father and his children. But I see it happening over and over again.

This case is not unique and personally I don't place too much importance on what Wil's daughters think of him or what any of them want to claim really happened. Their opinions are obviously biased despite any claims they might make to the contrary. I've yet to see any of them (or Linda) explain what really happened or provide any tangible evidence that such a rape was ever committed. The best they can do is discuss Wil's other supposed short comings (for instance that he did drugs) and that is supposed to convince the rest of us that they know what they are talking about and that Wil is not the 'angel' that they obviously think we all think he is.

I do not defend Wil Hetherington because I am his friend or because I have some personal interest. I defend him because of what this situation represents. I could just as well be defending thousands of other men in America today. His case is not unique, nor is it the most important case like this. It just happens to be the one that I am working on - in whatever way I deem fit.
If women are allowed to do this to men with total immunity, this is a strong indication of what the future of this entire society will be, in my strong opinion. If bigotry and misandry are the basis for what is official policy, I don't feel it will be long before a vast majority of men decide (like I have) that a weak society controlled by females is not worth protecting and defending at the risk of our very lives. Then, the self-destruction of this society WILL occur.

I have one more thing to add in reference to the woman in question and what she may have the opportunity to do - if she had the guts to. I seriously doubt it. But she might consider this. Michigan has a Governess rather than a Governor. Do I have this correct? This Governess is actually personally involved in trying to obtain release from prison of a convicted murderess? A woman who took an axe to her own husband? A woman who committed a senseless heinous act of violence like that? That is who the Governess of Michigan is trying to help. So she won't help Wil who has never been proven guilty. But she goes out of her way to help a confessed, guilty as hell axe murderess! lol Figures. Allow 'em the right to vote and this is what happens I guess ;-)

Anyway this is what I thought of. No doubt Linda is afraid that if she admitted that she lied, that they would find a reason to lock her up for that. So she has reservations about confessing. But what if she appealed to the Governess of Michigan for leniency. Maybe she wouldn't serve a long sentence. She might not serve any sentence at all. If a Governess would personally try to obtain a woman's release from prison (because she has cancer and she's dying I guess - oh Boo Hoo ;-)) doesn't it make sense that she would do whatever she could to help a woman like Linda for a much lesser crime.

But I imagine time is running out. How much longer will Michigan have a governess before she might lose the election and then a Governor (maybe a conservative one) might get in power and he might not be so lenient to women who make false charges. Anyway, something to maybe think about.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

In a message dated 10/16/2006 12:30:50 PM Central Standard Time, qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> Although my mother is no angel,

Yes, last time I checked angels did not lie and have a man put in jail for over 20 years on false charges of rape. ;-)

Women who do that usually eventually end up in the other place I think. Tell your ma to bring lots of suntan lotion when she goes. ;-)

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

Dear Mr. or Ms. Dumbfounded,

     As the youngest daughter of Mr. William Hetherington and Ms. Linda Hetherington, I am very proud of my mother. She struggled her entire life to protect her children from exposure from this case. My father used a picture of me as a small child to draw sympathy. Although my mother is no angel, if you look into her eyes and listen to her tell you what happened to her and the miserable things my father put her through, maybe you would realize there are two sides to every story. I constantly used to be torn between trying to believe both my mother and my father, but as I got older and listened to what they both had to say, I clearly realize that my father’s version has more holes than Swiss cheese, vs. my mothers side that has never swayed from her original testimony. It is very heart breaking to be torn between two parents, and to be used as a pawn in their psychological games against one another...but being put in the position, I have heard what both of them are not saying.....So believe what you like... but as for your question, I believe that both of my sisters feel the same way. If you look down on previous posts, I have posted here before, as has my older sister Christal. I am happy to validate my identity at any time.

Best regards,
Miss. Michelle Hetherington
 MissHetherington@aol.com

 
05-03-2005 11:14 AM ET (US)
 You have seriously got to be kidding me. This has got to be one of the most rediculus cases I have ever come across. Will, I'm so sorry your life has to be ruined for this bullshit.

  I'm curious what will's children think of their mother.

I just received a packet from Wil. I wrote him a letter months ago telling him I don't really have the bandwidth to help him any more. Two kids, more-than-full-time job, several other nonprofit obligations, yadda yadda. So nevertheless he wrote me and asked for me to write letters requesting timely parole, phone calls, copies of the letters to officials, etc. All meritorious, if I had the time, which I don't. I can't take this on. Is there anyone out there to whom I should forward this material? (Something on the order of 25 pages.) Thanks.

Steven Svoboda
>
>
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I've known about Will's case for a long time. I did 10+ years in prison on a false accusation. Check out my new website at http://www.nojessicaslaw.org/ Tell Will I'm still in the fight! This is James Anderson. E-mail me at cajl@rock.com

Is it possible that "The Innocence Project" could help Mr. Hetherington? It there was a pair of semen-stained jeans had sperm that could not have been his because he had a vasectomy, or some "crime scene" DNA that would not match his DNA, could this be used to help him?

You have seriously got to be kidding me. This has got to be one of the most rediculus cases I have ever come across. Will, I'm so sorry your life has to be ruined for this bullshit.

  I'm curious what will's children think of their mother.

There is no such thing as "spousal rape." It's a faux crime dreamed up by evil men hating bigot feminazis. When she say "I do" that is a binding legal consent to sex with her husband until such time as a divorce.

The whole case is a sham and a travesty and based on the legal destruction of marriage as its fundamental premise.

No man is guilty without a fair trial -- one of the fundamental premis of American law. No man receives a fair trial in a court that is systematically and pervasively biased against men. No man who has been tried in a bigoted biased court, and not received a fair trial, is guildy. More than 2 million MEN no rot in illegal prisons after being railroaded by illegal biased mock trials. The American Injustice System (AIS) is corrupt beyond all hope of redemption. Let us raise our glasses and sing the praise of any man who has the courage to waste one of the evil bigots in black. May the burn in hell a thousand years for every day that a good man spends in their prisons.

Bob



[Legal disclaimer: All posts of Bob are rhetorical in nature only. Bob does not advocate insurrection, sedition, murder, violence, assault, or any other criminal or illegal acts. ]

Edited by author 02-03-2005 11:36 PM
This is in reply to Luke's questions.

The truth is that William Hetherington received a ridiculously long sentence for a "crime" he didn't
commit because of a law that should never have been
enacted.

The business about drug use may or may not be true,
but it's just a red herring. This message board and the NCFM site wasn't set up to prove that Wil Hetherington is Mother Theresa, but that he was railroaded by a vindictive woman and a lopsided justice system.

His scheduled release date is March of 2010, although
Wil has sent notice that the warden is attempting illegally to move that date up another year or so. The original sentence was 15-30 years so it's certainly conceivable
they'll try to keep him there for that full length of
time.