I checked it on Yahoo the other day and the phrase, "marriage strike" had 33 Million 3 Hundred Thousand some hits. I talked to Wil recently on the phone and told him that men in America are waging a Marriage Strike because we've had it with all this BS being flung at us by the feminists, the government, the Mass Media, etc. Wil's response to this was, "It's about time." Wil supports the Marriage Strike and so do I. So why limit our vigilance only to 'women and the government'? Why take the chance on marriage at all to begin with if you don't have to? Why continue to create male victims for these monsters to exploit?

Barry Jernigan
College Grove, TN

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I looked Mr. William Hetherington up on the government's prisoner locator.

http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profi...p?mdocNumber=186155

He's located at Boyer Road Correctional Facility (OTF) in Carson City, MI

http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/1,1607...1388-5361--,00.html

He's in prison for 750.520b Criminal sexual conduct in the first degree; felony; consecutive terms.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ekom4y55v...ctname=mcl-750-520b

Another feminist law takes another man's life.

Men be careful around women and the government. The combination of the two always proves expensive for the man.

my number 3 test message

Women's voices count. Yes. Denise Noe, over at MensNewsDaily has written several times about the case. Her messages are currently up on MNDs front page.

I have noted her message too at Antimisandry.com where several women and men have agreed to letter blast the Parole Board and show Wil that he is in our minds.

From the lowest positions in government to the highest positions in government -- overall -- on every level of government -- municipal, state and federal -- I would bet you a million dollars that women not only are well-represented -- they dominate and overwhelm the government of the United States of America. For a single woman to complain about not having a government that represents their interests is frankly an indictment of their own kind. I suggest they take these issues up with THEIR government which I, apparently like you my friend, no longer consider representative of OUR interests and to whom I no longer pledge allegiance, obedience or recognize it's authority over me.
Congratulations, ladies, you have effectively created two nations within this territory. I hope you are quite satisfied with yourselves. Too bad that you have lost sight of what is truly important. I only hope that I am alive to see it all fall down around you. It's what you truly deserve. I am going to laugh so hard. lol

There is no reason to sit down and discuss anything with the feminist enemy. Dialogue serves no purpose when the enemy refuses to listen. The enemy has made it plainly clear that she is not listening to us at all. I say we stop recognizing that she is even breathing -- let alone talking.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN


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this new supreme court rule,in regards to ,im pretty sure #33,pleadings and alsoopinions from the lower court ,being on computer paper,is clearly reflective of rights being squashed-knowningly being squashed...this is why when people,as myself are heading out of the country...for medical reasons...im not at all concerned with coming back...please relay my regards to wil,and also tell him that the one i was in court with for so long,who he also helped out with pleadings....pretty much kicked me to the curb......godspeed!

Oh, I'm pretty sure it's Wil. His writing and phrasing are unmistakable. But thanks for your concern. In reference to others who are already helping Wil when he still requests money from me -- I am well aware of that possibility as well. I'm not any kind of bleeding heart. I only send what I can send. And I've told him (as I said in the posting) to budget how he uses it. This was a big point of contention in him requesting money for a foot locker -- primarily to keep all of his legal papers in. Oh yes, the legal papers that have just been so 'helpful' to him. He complains about the system and how it is against him and then turns right around and puts trust in the same system? Go figure. I think I phrased it something like, "Wil, you can't eat a foot locker". That was why he was responding in the letter about budgeting his money as I had requested.

I think his situation is going to have to take a different and newer phase from now on. I don't have any faith in the American 'justice' system in reference to men. I think it's a fricking joke to the point that I don't think there is any need for men to risk and lose their lives to protect such a farce as our modern society is. It is absolutely pathetically weak and getting weaker all the time. I have far more examples all around me that illustrate why I believe my attitude is the ONLY way to survive modern feminazi-controlled Amerika than just Wil's continued incarceration in the Gulag. I would say that he was just a fluke if that were the case.

My nephew is a victim of DV. His mother was arrested for DWI and complains about how much better men are treated under the same circumstances. In an atmosphere of an employee of our company whose girlfriend (admittedly) filed false charges against him 3 years ago which he now faces 10 years in prison for violating his probation -- converted to being put back on probation -- stricter terms this time. The bottom line with females in my family to this is that -- get this! -- it is his fault because he stayed with a psychotic woman.
So, now if women file false charges and have us arrested -- apparently according to the feminazis THAT is also OUR fault because we should have known better than to trust a psychotic woman. Having been with a psychotic woman myself -- I can vouch for a lot of guys that it is practically impossible to know if a woman is psychotic or not because they don't always act psychotic. They act like totally normal even upstanding respectable women in front of family and friends. It is only when you are alone with them that they act different. Not just in reference to intimacy and being different that way. I mean like they are a different person altogether. They cry and carry on and then you hug and console them and the tears instantly dry up and they're sticking their tongue down your throat. THAT is not the way they act in front of everyone else.
And my nephew's girlfriend? I've talked to her in our family office. She asked me to use my computer and I said okay. I guess I should have said, "Tell you what -- you stop beating on my nephew and I'll let you use my computer. Deal?" lol She seemed a bit dingy but to think that she could fly into rages and throw a cellphone at his hand (a hard piece of metal, people, which can break bones easily) while he was asleep? Nobody would think she was capable of anything like that.

Or the girl who lied and had our driver thrown in jail? His girlfriend, Jessie? Another basically dumb blonde frankly. But both one of my sisters and brothers can verify that she has thrown into rages at him in the past -- on the phone when he was on the road trying to do his job for us. Ranting and raving and accusing him of cheating and calling him names. Or ranting and raving about customers to whom he was delivering when we used to let her ride with him. But most of the time -- sweetest girl you'd ever want to know -- a little dingy -- but sweet. Just a little ole country girl.

Or Mary Winkler. Seemingly meek and mild and a little bit dumb. Not one bit. Very conniving and able to fool everyone (especially women) into thinking she is meek and mild and a little dumb.

So it's not just Wil and I'm not some bleeding heart who gives into any charitable cause. I've hung up on many a 'charitable cause' in my lifetime! lol
But again I thank you for your concern. I'll take it into consideration while I'm writing out that money order.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN


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Hello Barry,

I applaud your concern about this case.

However, I believe you should be wary of any solicitations for money from anyone in prison. You may not even be getting letters and requests for money from Will as weird as that may sound. When you deal with prisoners you are dealing with individuals who in too many cases can only get help from the outside by manipulating anyone who shows the slightest sign of sympathy for them. They have plenty of time on their hands to concoct and refine cons and they are very good at it.

So beware of sending money to anyone in prison.

And I do hope justice will be served soon (FINALLY) in Will's case.
L. B.


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My only comment to what Wil is saying is this:

The last I heard he was having an operation and was temporarily at that facility and didn't know for how long. So I didn't send him anything -- like needed funds because I figured the authorities might confiscate anything I send and he would never see it anyway. Yes, I did send him needed funds when he requested them prior to his having problems, etc and I did advise him to stretch it as far as he could because I didn't have it to send. I'm planning on buying a house in the next few months and I need to budget as much as possible. I am truly sorry this has happened to Wil but the bottom line is that I personally am not responsible for the system that currently exists. The one thing I see in his letter which I think is frankly about time is his anger at women. Especially women in power which I strongly feel is wrong, wrong, wrong! History has proven that fact time and time again. I say, "Biologically correct is better than politically correct!" But humans will have to learn that lesson the hard way, oh well! LOL

Barry in TN a state with lots of "Christians" who are probably going to hell (especially women) because they chose a Whore of Babylon (Mary Winkler) over a man of God (her husband, Rev. Matthew Winkler, whom she killed in cold blood while he was sleeping). She blatantly lied on the stand. I watched the fiasco myself and then had to listen to continous support for her (a supposed abused wife who couldn't take it anymore -- yeah, right!) and condemnation of her husband post-mortem. My view is that if she lied under oath she was most likely lying when she claimed she was abused.

Latest from Wil

Wm. J. Hetherington # 186155
Saginaw Correctional Facility
9625 Pierce Road
Freeland, Michigan
48623
USA

Barry Jernigan

3/26/2007

RE: HOW'S IT GOIN OUT THERE IN THE FREE WORLD

Barry,

It's been a while since I heard from you so I thought that I would drop a note to say hello. I have restrained myself from calling and hopefully this has removed some of the oppression from you as I never intended it to be a negative.

The Governor says she is releasing over 5,000 prisoners before the end of the year. I can only pray that I can be one of them. There is a big budget crunch and this is only when they admit that they can release this many prisoners who don't actually need to be locked up, anyway! I wonder what the ratio of male to female prisoners will be in the final numbers? There are 51,000 total prisoners right now. Only about 7-10,000 females total on the outside margin. So, it would be an interesting statistic to find out exactly what the ratio of male to female prisoners that actually get released in this budget crunch!?!?!?? The public can go to www.michigan/gov.com and then go to the corrections link. Find the annual statistic book they offer free to the public. Request the actual numbers of male - v - female prisoners released from 1 / 1 / 2007 through 1 / 1 / 2008 ..?????

No Michigan prisoner can foia anything! We are barred by statute (MCL 15.231) Michigan Compiled Laws .. from obtaining any foia request of any kind of information! I cannot even foia pages out of my own MDOC files!!! I can get my medicla [sic] records but NOTHING else! Think of this for a moment? This is SIBERIA...

I appreciate every iota of your assistance over the years! I mean this in all sincerity and with a genuine fraternal thankfulness!

Few could even imagine the fatigue, mental demeaning process, and/or the stress levels generated from over 20 years of continuous incarceration! This ain't been no picnic! In fact, I have coined the phrase : " THIS IS WHAT TWO DECADES OF HARD TIME LOOKS LIKE " .. when, pointing to the premature aging my appearance reflects! The recent medical problems really took a toll on my beyond what words can even explain. I appreciate your compassion in all you have done for me. I will never forget it!!!

Barry, I did as you instructed me to do with the funds you sent me. I made it stretch as far as humanly possible! I simply am without at the present time. I can only ask and hope that you know this man would not ask if there was nay [sic] other way for me to survive this hell on earth of a place! I never had to ask nobody for nothing in my life until I wound up in prison! I worked from the time I was 15 years old. I held a job at a gas station from 15:30 - 23:00 every weekday even during the school year. Then, on weekends I worked double shifts. I worked at GM for almost 15 years right up until my arrest. I would have been retired by now!

Having said all of this, if you can please help me it would be greatly helpful to me. These are times more difficult than ever before, for me, in here! I struggle and beg for help and it hurts me deep down in my soul! I can only hope that you can hear this cry form [sic] the wilderness and the pain from which it is vented?

My own sister chides me for just calling to see how my family is doing! She is my only link now that my Mother has passed on. I do not have family that I can ask for help or I would never bother you or anyone else! The letter I wrote to the NCFM Transitions paper got printed on a delay of months. I asked for help back in about October or early November 2006 ... and by the time you and one or tow [sic] others responded it was 2007. I ordered the socks, boxes, t-shirts, shoes, and a footlocker I desperately needed. That took every cent that I got. I wrote a thank you letter in response. The reason that I needed everything is because I had counted on them paroling me the last time! I wore the things I had to actual thread bear [sic] status! Then when they denied me parole I was in a survival mode! The few things the prison issues us are not much at all! In fact, the shoes wear sores on my feet just from wearing them on a transfer or visit (on the rare times that I might get one). The brief shorts are not wearable so I don't. The t-shirts are ok but we only get 3. The socks are thin as sheet material. We only get 5 pair. The laundry system is what makes it bad. We send in our laundry twice a week (some facilities only once a week) so while our stuff is gone 2 - 3 days... we are just out of luck if we don't have our own stuff to wear. I know that this don't even explain it how bad it really is and words can't begin to tell someone who has never had too [sic] go through this mess!

Bottom line is that I got the things that I so desperately needed. However, it took everything that I had. I am having to use my good legal typing paper as I don't even have funds to get the typing paper they sell in the inmate store. This is the paper I reserve for the courts when I am able to file. I guess that I am feeling sorry for myself and should pull myself up by my boot straps and hope that they will let me go. I have stood in faith believing since 1 9 9 7. They have held me for over 10 years past my minimum sentence! That is an whole prison sentence by itself! I know that they would never hold a female prisoner like this! I am so sick of this morass that I could just throw in the towel, sometimes, when I really think it through! Not one law firm will take my case, why not??? If I was jew, black, female, or hispanic they would be coming out of the woodwork to take my case! Man, this is a screwed up system to never have been able to have my appeal of right or appeal my false conviction!

I gotta go ... I get so depressed just on a day by day basis thinking of all this mess. Then, when I have to write to ask for help it really gets to me! I am sorry for ever being a bother in any way ever! I never meant to be!

Fraternally,

Wil

Latest mailing from Wil came from this address:

Wm. Hetherington #186155
Saginaw Correctional Facility
9625 Pierce Road
Freeland, MI 48623

Included only the following:

a Michigan DOC Catalog Order Form which is only a copy and a very faint one at that.

The Phyllis Schlafly Report, Eagle Forum newsletter Vol. 40, No. 6 for January 2007 entitled, "Questions To Ask Presidential Candidates". Even she fails to mention anything about the violation of men's rights. Well, with the way everything else is going, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

A typed message (presuming by Wil himself) which states the following:

60 Minutes for Sunday 2/11/2007
Second Segment of the One Hour Program

"Timothy Saunders 17 Hours in Restraints"
Dead @ 21 Years Old

www.60minutes.com
cbsmainpage

(Baraq Obamma Segment was 1st segment of this days program)

Note the Interview with (MDOC) Michigan Department of Corrections Director Patrica Caruso on Deaths in Her Prisons

Also Check Out the Following
www.wnem.com

key word " adultery "

Attorney Glenn M. Simmington (P-33626)
Cline, Cline & Griffin
1000 Mott Foundation Building
Flint, Michigan 48502
810-232-3141
Fax / 810-232-1079
E-mail / gsimmington@cclawyers.com

A Michigan spouse caught in adultery can be charged with a life felony of 1st degree (CSC) Criminal Sexual Conduct because the lesser felony of adultery triggers the life felony.

Wil's written note on the back of this page states:

Barry
2/14/07
Will you please check these out & save or get a copy of the 60 Minutes program??? Also will you post this info up on chat rooms, Emails and/or NCFM webb cites??? [sic] thanks

Again
Wil

I think the system is going to max him out. I've run out of any hope that anybody in this system is even legally sane. When they can stop any man at any time for any reason. Check their records and claim that he is seven years behind in child support. He is 20 years old. Do the math. That means he must have been 13 when he sired the child. They don't give a rat's ass. They throw his ass in jail anyway because 'their system' is foolproof. Yeah, right! The American 'justice' system is a fricking joke.

The prosecution of the Duke boys. The assault of a police officer by a Congresswoman goes unpunished. Clara Harris deliberately running over her own husband and NOT getting the death penalty in Texas. A woman in Michigan deliberately axed her own husband to death and the governess of Michigan is trying to get HER out of prison but she won't lift a finger to help Wil. I could go on and on and on and on. Case after case after case of blatant injustice committed against American citizens who are treated worse than real terrorists simply because they have penises.

And American citizens who have vaginas who consistently receive leniency even when they commit every kind of atrocity imaginable. There is no hope for this society. There is no future for this society. When you hear thousands of teenage girls talking down to their own fathers -- THAT is the future of this country. What did the Sex Pistols say about England in the 1970s -- "No future! No future! No future for you! No future! No future! No future for me!"
And that's how I feel about this weak society. It has no future. I no longer care.

/m68
Dear Barry,
 I do hope that you manage to get Will out of this hellhole in 2007. This seems like an agonising long saga for him

Thanks for the update on Will's plight.

I know it is cold comfort for Will but he is costing the sad state of Michigan about a quarter of a million dollars for his medical problems. It may have been a blessing in disguise for him to get so sick when the state is responsible for him and have to pickup his medical bills.

Good luck to him and hope 2007 sees his release from the "nookie" Gulag.
Luke Brackett
Marietta, Georgia


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Wil called this last week one night. He said the parole board denied his parole. He said the woman who had interviewed him voted Yes but the other two on the board -- a woman named Marian (?) Sanford and some guy named Barrios voted No. Wil said that Marian (?) Sanford voted Yes the last time. He doesn't understand why she voted No.

Wil said something about some website www.capps-mi.org. And how they are doing something to appeal the law in reference to parole and that those prisoners who have a high probability score for parole and no tickets like Wil whose score he says is a plus seven. I have no earthly idea what all that means but he says some woman at that website, Deana Anderson, is involved in trying to get this through the Michigan legislature. He wants me to contact her about his case.

He is currently temporarily at Saginaw while he has his operation to repair his stomach and esophagus which are torn. Isn't it funny that some in the Mass Media in Michigan were ranting and raving about the 'poor treatment' some female prisoners are getting and something better be done about it or else. But there is Wil, having had a congestive heart condition, chained to a hospital bed, passing the amount of 4 big bags of blood through both ends of his body, having to use a portable toilet next to the hospital bed -- they wouldn't even allow him supervised visits to the bathroom. And after that I'm supposed to be 'concerned' about the 'poor treatment' some female prisoners in Michigan supposedly get. Frankly I could give the glutius maximus of a Rattus norvegicus ;-)

Anyway, Wil doesn't know how long he is going to be at Saginaw. They don't let him know that 'for security reasons' (what a joke their system is that they take themselves so 'seriously' -- lol -- security reasons! -- lol). So he won't be able to receive any cards, letters, funds, etc until he gets back to the other place or unless they decide to shuffle him around again to avoid him getting any assistance. I am almost convinced THAT IS the reason they keep moving him. So you might hold off on sending anything until he gets back 'home'. He'll probably call me and let me know when that happens and I'll post it here.

At any rate, Wil did tell me it's calmer and a little nicer where he is now. So maybe we can hope that he gets to stay there a little longer. Whatever consolation that is considering his circumstance. Isn't it ironic that he has to keep his nose clean and be a good little boy to please two women who decide his fate and he has done nothing wrong to begin with and it was in fact an evil woman who put him where he is now. That is just the biggest joke to me especially when I consistently hear in the mass media how powerless women are and how it is still a male-dominated system. Give me a large break, ladies! lol They hold all the cards and they damn well know it and love to rub our noses in it is the real truth. lol

Earlier when he had his parole examination via long distance with that woman in Lansing (forgot her name but he told me) he requested that I request a copy of that for him. He is not allowed to request it himself. So he told me the wording of what to say. So I did that -- a lot of legal gobbledy gook that doesn't mean anything to me and apparently doesn't really mean anything at all anyway. They denied my request and one of the reasons they gave was -- get this (lol) -- because it might jeopardize Wil's right to a fair trial! Is that the biggest joke you ever heard or what?! The State of Michigan wouldn't know what a fair trial was for Wil if one bit them on their collective arses. lol

Anyway, he wants me to try again to get a copy. I saved the letter in the word processor so I just have to reprint it and send it again. I don't think it's going to have any different result than my first attempt. They're going to send that stupid yellow sheet with all of their 'reasons' for denying the request. But I'll do it -- if it makes him happy. I think the primary thing is to try and keep his spirits high and positive at this time. He almost died. They denied his parole. It's Christmas and his family has basically abandoned him. He's in a very bad position and he needs to keep his health up as much as possible.

He was in basic training during the Vietnam War. He got sick and got discharged before he could complete his training or be sent to Vietnam. In a way it's a good thing. It would be a total waste (in retrospect) for him to have gone to fight, kill and possibly die over there in the guise of supporting, protecting and defending a system now obviously controlled by selfish, arrogant women whose primary gripe about the Vietnam War was that THEY were not also allowed to sit on the draft board (like men) to collect the blood money to send young men off to die in Southeast Asia. Now THAT would have been a shame for him to have been one of those blood sacrifices for female dominance. lol

Wil told me about his experience at Lackland and about what happened. How the recruits were used to help look for some officer's granddaughter and her friend. How the recruits were sent out into the woods and other places, looking under objects as if they were looking for bodies of some kind. In the middle of the night out there doing that when they were supposed to be in training. According to what Wil said, the military authorities violated their own regs by taking recruits during war time away from their basic training for some officer's private use. He collapsed afterward and woke up in the hospital with some kind of respiratory infection. He was given a medical discharge and that was the end of his military career. Seems odd to me that once he was well that they didn't just send him back to his unit. He said other guys got sick too but he didn't keep in contact with them. When he told me the story it sounded very much like what Larry Warren described in the book, "Left at East Gate" but Wil thinks he might have come in contact with some kind of toxic substance (like Agent Orange) in one of the dumps that they searched in while looking for those two little girls.

As it turns out, the little girls weren't even far from their home. There was an empty house in base housing. The occupants were away on vacation. They got into the house and locked themselves in a closet. Someone suggested searching in the neighborhood and they found them in that closet -- safe and sound. Sending all those guys out to search all over in ammo dumps and under objects like fallen logs and traipsing around in the woods -- for nothing. For two stupid little rich girls who obviously weren't taught respect for other people's property and went inside someone else's home and got in their personal closet and accidentally locked themselves inside. Tax payers money and those guys' time spent for some officer's private conceipt.

But anyway Wil thinks some of his situation has to do with that incident. That he would talk about what happened and it would open a can of worms about it. I really don't think so unless it was more than just some toxic substance that he was dealing with. At any rate, I haven't said anything about it -- since it is rather controversial. But after they've denied his parole (he has what one more time or was this the last time?) and will max him out in what? 2010? I figured -- screw them. They've screwed his chances for about the last time. Might as well let it out -- it might even be something very innocuous.

But they won't give him a ribbon that he says he is entitled to because they won't release his medical record about it. They only tell him that it was some kind of respiratory infection and that's about it. They won't say what caused it or how that could have happened. So to him it isn't right that they are denying him the right to know what happened to him and denying him his ribbon because of the secrecy around the incident. Which, I would have to admit, if it was no big deal, then why refuse to release the information to him about it? Then again this is the US government we're talking about and we know what idiots they are! lol I spent 3 years at NSA. I DEFINITELY know what idiots they are! lol

Anyway that's the latest from Wil. From Murfreesboro, TN -- Y'all have a Merry Yule ;-)

Barry Jernigan

Latest from Wil. He called a week or so ago. He was concerned that the medical personnel had done something to him which caused his esophagus to tear from his stomach. He requested copy off the net concerning this condition. I sent that to him. From what I read, very severe and continuous vomiting itself (as in cases of alcoholics) may cause this to happen. I strongly disagree with his assumption concerning medical procedure. I'm sure he was given the best treatment (aside from being chained to his hospital bed and forced to use a portable toilet next to the bed) they could give him under the circumstances.

So far he has had no confirmation about his parole request and examination.

 So, at this holiday season you all might send him a card.

Cherish traditional holidays like Christmas and traditional families while you still have them. If the feminists and their cohorts in government get their way (which I strongly believe they will) you can kiss holidays and traditional families (father, mother, child -- in that order, folks) all goodbye in this country.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

Actually, this is a good thing in a odd way. The state will have to pick up his hospital bills. Something like this can cost tens of thousands of dollars in no time at all. Of course rehab and condition monitoring will be included in the total if he recovers. He is making the bastards pay!
L. B.




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I have some news about Wil and it is not good news at all. He called me on Friday night and he didn't sound well and he was upset and I'm not surprised. He had just been released that day from the Intensive Care unit of a local hospital. It was a bit difficult to understand everything he was saying and keep it all straight but basically what I understand is that he had a blood clot and water developed around his heart which caused congestive heart failure. He collapsed and they rushed him by ambulance to the hospital where he says he also endured more complications when his esophagus was torn from his stomach. He bled internally and threw up four barf bags full of blood and almost bled to death. He called me to request that I contact a relative and inform them that he needed to call them. So I did that. I've known of other people in the past who had congestive heart problems. It is a very serious condition. I don't know if his situation was only a one time thing or if this something that he will have to deal with from now on.

In a message dated 10/25/2006 7:17:13 PM Central Standard Time,
qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> I have read the available information on Wil Hetherington. Has
> there been anything new since 2004? Also, MDOC web page shows
> Wil at Ojibway Camp in the U.P. Does anyone know if this address
> is correct to contact him today? I'm too old to be bitter about
> life's 'unfairness' - so, don't let the fact that I am a female
> prevent anyone from commenting. I might actually be of some
> help to some one concerned with the inequities of todays legal
> forums.
>

You can write Wil at:

William Hetherington
#186155
Ojibway Correctional Facility
N5705 Ojibway Road
Marenisco, MI 49947-9771

Women's voices should be heard in reference to official policies which are blatantly misandrist. Women ARE sometimes some of the most vocal members of men's rights organizations (like the NCFM). However, those who support misandrist official policies (men and women) are just as blatantly arrogant to women who speak out against them as they are men. Where women can make the most difference, in my opinion, is with other women who are still sitting on the fence about these issues. Sadly, I look around me and I see very few women willing to make such a stand. Too many swallow the propoganda of the feminists and the government that the current policies are the way to go. It is often only when the women themselves or members of their own families are touched by the injustices of the system (like the Colorado Congresswoman who recently was served a restraint order by another woman) that they decide that maybe the system is not that great a system after all. What really amazes me is that even active duty soldiers putting their very lives on the line are even targetted by these policies and the policy makers don't seem to care. I would still ask the question: Why should men put their lives on the line to protect a system that refuses to protect them from injustice? I would rather see the current system destroyed. But that's me. Other male voices are not as radical as mine - not yet. How much longer that situation will be the norm is anybody's guess.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

I have read the available information on Wil Hetherington. Has there been anything new since 2004? Also, MDOC web page shows Wil at Ojibway Camp in the U.P. Does anyone know if this address is correct to contact him today? I'm too old to be bitter about life's 'unfairness' - so, don't let the fact that I am a female prevent anyone from commenting. I might actually be of some help to some one concerned with the inequities of todays legal forums.

In a message dated 10/20/2006 7:06:50 AM Central Standard Time,
qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> A really great post Barry. It is a keeper for future reference.
>
> L.B.
>

Thanks :)

Barry

A really great post Barry. It is a keeper for future reference.

L.B.
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In a message dated 10/16/2006 12:30:50 PM Central Standard Time, qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> Dear Mr. or Ms. Dumbfounded,
>
Why is it that we should presume just because these young women are Wil's daughters that they are any less biased or pre-disposed to despise men and male culture than the vast majority of other young women in America today, via the massively anti-male biased feminized culture which influences them and the decisions they make in life? Or that they could be any less influenced by their vindictive mother to believe what she tells them to believe?

My parents divorced when I was 8 or 9 years old. My dad and my mom's boyfriend duked it out in our house. My dad hit my mom's boyfriend and cut his ear almost off. My mom took a wooden salad bowl and hit my dad over his head giving him a big gash. I never heard a thing because I was sound asleep. I only remember drops of blood were on our rubber boots that were laying at the bottom of the basement stairs when we had to put them on to go to school the next morning. And a few nights after that our dad came back and said he was taking us with him. Mom told him no and then he said he only wanted to take my little sister. But she told him he wasn't taking any of us. I remember that much. The rest has always been either unknown to me or I didn't understand it because I was too young to understand. Maybe the oldest of Wil's daughters was older than I was at that time in my life. But still - how much does a child really understand or remember about what really happened? Especially when the father is not around to tell his side of what happened. They only ever hear their mother's side - like I did.

And even today in my own family, my sisters consistently poison the minds of their children against their own fathers - particularly girls. In America today it seems that largely what a teenage girl wants is more important than the respect that her father needs from her. Just because a man and woman are not getting along, or worse, just because a woman has an opportunity to gain an advantage and sacrifices her relationship and the well being of her family for the short-term gain, that is NOT a reason for these women to drive a wedge between the relationships between a father and his children. But I see it happening over and over again.

This case is not unique and personally I don't place too much importance on what Wil's daughters think of him or what any of them want to claim really happened. Their opinions are obviously biased despite any claims they might make to the contrary. I've yet to see any of them (or Linda) explain what really happened or provide any tangible evidence that such a rape was ever committed. The best they can do is discuss Wil's other supposed short comings (for instance that he did drugs) and that is supposed to convince the rest of us that they know what they are talking about and that Wil is not the 'angel' that they obviously think we all think he is.

I do not defend Wil Hetherington because I am his friend or because I have some personal interest. I defend him because of what this situation represents. I could just as well be defending thousands of other men in America today. His case is not unique, nor is it the most important case like this. It just happens to be the one that I am working on - in whatever way I deem fit.
If women are allowed to do this to men with total immunity, this is a strong indication of what the future of this entire society will be, in my strong opinion. If bigotry and misandry are the basis for what is official policy, I don't feel it will be long before a vast majority of men decide (like I have) that a weak society controlled by females is not worth protecting and defending at the risk of our very lives. Then, the self-destruction of this society WILL occur.

I have one more thing to add in reference to the woman in question and what she may have the opportunity to do - if she had the guts to. I seriously doubt it. But she might consider this. Michigan has a Governess rather than a Governor. Do I have this correct? This Governess is actually personally involved in trying to obtain release from prison of a convicted murderess? A woman who took an axe to her own husband? A woman who committed a senseless heinous act of violence like that? That is who the Governess of Michigan is trying to help. So she won't help Wil who has never been proven guilty. But she goes out of her way to help a confessed, guilty as hell axe murderess! lol Figures. Allow 'em the right to vote and this is what happens I guess ;-)

Anyway this is what I thought of. No doubt Linda is afraid that if she admitted that she lied, that they would find a reason to lock her up for that. So she has reservations about confessing. But what if she appealed to the Governess of Michigan for leniency. Maybe she wouldn't serve a long sentence. She might not serve any sentence at all. If a Governess would personally try to obtain a woman's release from prison (because she has cancer and she's dying I guess - oh Boo Hoo ;-)) doesn't it make sense that she would do whatever she could to help a woman like Linda for a much lesser crime.

But I imagine time is running out. How much longer will Michigan have a governess before she might lose the election and then a Governor (maybe a conservative one) might get in power and he might not be so lenient to women who make false charges. Anyway, something to maybe think about.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

In a message dated 10/16/2006 12:30:50 PM Central Standard Time, qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:

> Although my mother is no angel,

Yes, last time I checked angels did not lie and have a man put in jail for over 20 years on false charges of rape. ;-)

Women who do that usually eventually end up in the other place I think. Tell your ma to bring lots of suntan lotion when she goes. ;-)

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

Dear Mr. or Ms. Dumbfounded,

     As the youngest daughter of Mr. William Hetherington and Ms. Linda Hetherington, I am very proud of my mother. She struggled her entire life to protect her children from exposure from this case. My father used a picture of me as a small child to draw sympathy. Although my mother is no angel, if you look into her eyes and listen to her tell you what happened to her and the miserable things my father put her through, maybe you would realize there are two sides to every story. I constantly used to be torn between trying to believe both my mother and my father, but as I got older and listened to what they both had to say, I clearly realize that my father’s version has more holes than Swiss cheese, vs. my mothers side that has never swayed from her original testimony. It is very heart breaking to be torn between two parents, and to be used as a pawn in their psychological games against one another...but being put in the position, I have heard what both of them are not saying.....So believe what you like... but as for your question, I believe that both of my sisters feel the same way. If you look down on previous posts, I have posted here before, as has my older sister Christal. I am happy to validate my identity at any time.

Best regards,
Miss. Michelle Hetherington
 MissHetherington@aol.com

 
05-03-2005 11:14 AM ET (US)
 You have seriously got to be kidding me. This has got to be one of the most rediculus cases I have ever come across. Will, I'm so sorry your life has to be ruined for this bullshit.

  I'm curious what will's children think of their mother.

I just received a packet from Wil. I wrote him a letter months ago telling him I don't really have the bandwidth to help him any more. Two kids, more-than-full-time job, several other nonprofit obligations, yadda yadda. So nevertheless he wrote me and asked for me to write letters requesting timely parole, phone calls, copies of the letters to officials, etc. All meritorious, if I had the time, which I don't. I can't take this on. Is there anyone out there to whom I should forward this material? (Something on the order of 25 pages.) Thanks.

Steven Svoboda
>
>
< replied-to message removed by QT >

I've known about Will's case for a long time. I did 10+ years in prison on a false accusation. Check out my new website at http://www.nojessicaslaw.org/ Tell Will I'm still in the fight! This is James Anderson. E-mail me at cajl@rock.com

Is it possible that "The Innocence Project" could help Mr. Hetherington? It there was a pair of semen-stained jeans had sperm that could not have been his because he had a vasectomy, or some "crime scene" DNA that would not match his DNA, could this be used to help him?

You have seriously got to be kidding me. This has got to be one of the most rediculus cases I have ever come across. Will, I'm so sorry your life has to be ruined for this bullshit.

  I'm curious what will's children think of their mother.

There is no such thing as "spousal rape." It's a faux crime dreamed up by evil men hating bigot feminazis. When she say "I do" that is a binding legal consent to sex with her husband until such time as a divorce.

The whole case is a sham and a travesty and based on the legal destruction of marriage as its fundamental premise.

No man is guilty without a fair trial -- one of the fundamental premis of American law. No man receives a fair trial in a court that is systematically and pervasively biased against men. No man who has been tried in a bigoted biased court, and not received a fair trial, is guildy. More than 2 million MEN no rot in illegal prisons after being railroaded by illegal biased mock trials. The American Injustice System (AIS) is corrupt beyond all hope of redemption. Let us raise our glasses and sing the praise of any man who has the courage to waste one of the evil bigots in black. May the burn in hell a thousand years for every day that a good man spends in their prisons.

Bob



[Legal disclaimer: All posts of Bob are rhetorical in nature only. Bob does not advocate insurrection, sedition, murder, violence, assault, or any other criminal or illegal acts. ]

Edited by author 02-03-2005 11:36 PM
This is in reply to Luke's questions.

The truth is that William Hetherington received a ridiculously long sentence for a "crime" he didn't
commit because of a law that should never have been
enacted.

The business about drug use may or may not be true,
but it's just a red herring. This message board and the NCFM site wasn't set up to prove that Wil Hetherington is Mother Theresa, but that he was railroaded by a vindictive woman and a lopsided justice system.

His scheduled release date is March of 2010, although
Wil has sent notice that the warden is attempting illegally to move that date up another year or so. The original sentence was 15-30 years so it's certainly conceivable
they'll try to keep him there for that full length of
time.

Yeah interesting in reference to drugs. A man in California killed 2 drug dealers and the prosecution was very adamant about giving him the death sentence. See they were female drug dealers. I guess there really is a difference in our justice system. Of course when females can run over their husbands and drown their children in the bathtub and NOT receive the death penalty even in such a hard-nose state as Texas - we know exactly where we as men stand in today's feminazi police state. Is there really any reason for any of us to risk our very lives for such thankless ingrates? I don't think so.

"Gonna lay down my sword and shield down by the riverside, down by the riverside, down by the riverside. Gonna lay down my sword and shield down by the riverside. Ain't gonna study war no more!"

Time for men to practice mass civil disobedience in my strong opinion.

Found this site while doing research for an academic project.

I cannot but wonder "what is the truth?"

Even if the accusations of drug use and such and such are true, a person should have all their constitional rights granted to them. This is the fundamental issue of which I am most concerned about.

When would Mr. Hetherington get out of prison under current circumstances?

Yeah I understand my dad wanted it posted, but honestly... He's a desperate man and words *lies* like that feed into this lie he has manifested in his mind. It's just a horrible thing to see such slander posted.

Anyone is free to write the parole board.

Wil Hetherington himself asked that the letter be posted here.

If you seek legal action - seek it against him. Or contact that woman and have her retract her statement. Good luck.

P.S. The picture of me on my fathers lap is lovely. I have an 8x10 copy of my own. But To tell you the truth this picture has been posted for a very long time. In fact longer than I have been over the age of 18. Now, it is my understanding that you have to have pariental consent or consent from the people in the picture to post it. I know my mother never gave you permission and at this time in my life I would prefer you to take it down. Please tell me who I need to get into contact with to get this removed. I highly dissaprove of my picture being on the free will site for the NCFM. I wrote a letter once a couple months ago and never got a reply. I will take legal action if I have to. I just don't want my face plastered here anymore.


Thank you,
Michelle Lynn Hetherington
MissHetherington@aol.com

As a Reply to this letter being posted...
>>>>>

>To Whom It May Concern on the Parole Board:

(In Regards to Inmate #186155, Mr. William Hetherington)

My name is Madame X and I am a family friend of Mr. Hetherington's. I currently reside in Smalltown, USA. I am writing this in hopes that you will read this to help let an innocent man be released.

I became acquainted with Mr. Hetherington's family in 1998. I became aware of Mr. Hetherington's situation during the last several years. I have researched many related cases in Michigan on the internet and I do not recollect any other cases being incarcerated for as long as Mr. Hetherington has been. Cases on rape, depending on circumstances, get sentenced for 2-5 years, this man has been imprisoned for over 19 years. I ask why?

In 2001 I needed money and the victim, Linda Hetherington, employed me. I had just had my daughter and need money to move. My employment concisted of babysitting her grandchildren for one week while she went to Florida with a gentleman friend. She had been taking a lot of medication, but she was still coherent and we began to talk about each other and our lives. She went into great details about what happened between her and Mr. Hetherington.

She told me how they were separated. How she began to see another man. Her and the other man (Olaf), decided they would have an open relationship and see other people as well. She decided to try to work things out with Mr. Hetherington and they began to have a concentual relationship again. Little to his knowledge, she was having an affair with Olaf. She was laughing now. She became pregnant with Olaf's baby. Olaf told her she had to get rid of Mr. Hetherington or he wouldn't take care of the baby. She told Olaf she went to Mr. Hetherington's house and he raped her. Olaf made her press charges and William went to prison, by this time she was laughing like she was crazy. She told me how she writes the parole board and saying she fears for her life. She said she felt guilty for what she has done, but she doesn't fear him at all. She was making a mockery of the parole board, for beleiving her farce of a story. This woman's guilt is killing her and the only fear she has is going to hell for lying. I realize now, I should've said something sooner.

Well the years have gone by and every year he sits; waits to be freed. He has paid his debt to society and is rehabilitated. He has been behind bars for far to long. He has a job and family waiting for him. He may have been incarcerated for 19 years, but he is already an established, respected man who needs to go home and be with the ones who love and respect him. Personally I would trust him with mine as well as my daughter's life. For I know in my heart and mind he is not a threat to anyone.

Good lord, why keep him locked up any longer? He lost his mother this year (which broke his heart), why hurt him again by denying him his freedom. His sister is raising his grandchild and he needs to come home and raise that child. Give him the opportunity he was denied for so many years with his own children. Please give him the chance to what he's supposed to do. He's not dangerous, he is an intelligent, kind, gentle and loving person. Please give him the right to prove himself. Any other decision would be wrong. Thank you for your time and compassion.

Sincerely
Madame X


My name is Michelle. I have posted here once before. I am Will's youngest daughter. For any of you non believers who questioned my sister's post here earlier. Yes, it was Christal and Yes, I am Michelle. Ask my dad. Ask me. I don't care, whatever it takes to get it through your head that we ARE his real children protesting this site.(I'll put my money where my mouth is here because I see my drivers lisence every day.) When I came to this site and read this letter I was sickened. I understand your reasons for being here to support my father, but when people send letters like this to the parole board it only hurts him. I know who sent this letter because I was there with her the entire time she was at my mothers house. I was around her the entire time she was around my mother and believe me my Mom NEVER said any of those words. I'm not here to say you're wrong in believing my father is innocent. I will never say either of my parents are innocent for the crimes they commited against each other, because they are NOT. But I simply cannot believe you would even consider posting such trash. When people lie it only makes things worse. I'm sure my father can tell you that. I would love to see my fater free and able to enjoy what time he has left in life. I would love to hug him outside of prision walls again, but these things are never going to happen when people like "madame x" (who only briefly came into my family because my aunt bestowed some welfare upon her) tell flat out lies. We treated this woman well when she sat on her ass at my house watching tv as I did her job for her while her child screamed non stop. Now I am stuck in the middle of this case and I always will be. To all of the people out there in this world that think warping the truth or just bluntly fibbing altogether will help Mr. William J Hetherington get out of prision...You are insane! and you need more help than my crazy parents do.

I am asking you please take that letter down. Again, if you don't believe who I am...Get ahold of me. My e mail address is misshetherington@aol.com. I'll tell you whatever you want to know to prove to you who I am and how these things hurt mine and my sisters. I will tell you how my dad likes his hair cut, or how he rolls his shirt sleeves, or the things I learned while sitting in a prison visiting room from prisioner 186155. Whatever it takes. And if any of you talk to my dad...tell him Michelle said hi because he cannot call me. I don't have a phone at my house and I can't drive 8 hours to see him. (and he'll tell you I'm a brat and that I don't write him letters) but tell him I said hi and that I got to read that letter from .... I'll call her Miss M. and that I don't approve of him even allowing it to be sent to the parole board because it is such a joke.

Thanks again for your time

Michelle Lynn Hetherington

It was just confirmed to me that the correct zip code
is 49786-0001.

Just an update on Wil's new address. Wil gave it
over the phone the other day :

Wil Hetherington
#186155
Hiawatha Correctional Facility
4533 Industrial Park Drive
Kincheloe, MI 49756-0001

Unfortunately the zipcode may not be correct - Wil
wasn't sure. When I tried to verify it with Mapquest
I came up with a different zip. So anybody who is
planning on sending something might want to test
the waters with a postcard first.

Wil also said that the MDOC Warden at the Jackson
Correctional Facility did an 'audit' of Wil's case
and is now trying to get his maximum release date
moved up. He has written the 7th Circuit Court judge
in Flint, MI calculating his 'good time' credits from
the present day backward instead of the sentencing
date forward as he is supposed to. He also said that
the only way this could legally be done is to have
his case declared invalid. However the MDOC (Michigan
Dept. of Corrections) has gotten away with violating
its own rules before; it looks like it's going to try
and do it again.

> For those supporters out there, has anybody wrote the National US Supreme Court?

Yes, many times. Each time Wil had his application returned because he failed to meet the filing requirements. One of the requirements is that they cannot be filed using a typewriter. But the Michigan Prison System does not allow the prisoners to own computers.


> I'm a first year law student, and I'm pretty sure everybody has the
> right to appeal until they get the US SUPREME COURT.

They may have the right to appeal on paper, but meeting the filing requirements is impossible for a prisoner with limited funds and resources. A fully staffed legal firm could handle it, but we don't have the funds and resources for it.

Assuming the filing requirements are met, the US Supreme Court only hears 1% of the cases put in front of it.

> it is everybody's consitutional right and it supercedes any state law.... that's a fact.

> Constitution can't be denied for any measure by any STATE.

> Forget the state court. I believe all rights and neglegence will be
> exposed by the upper courts.

I used to believe that at one time. Now I don't see any reason to believe why the Federal justice system is any better than the systems of the various states.


> put your heads together... exposing an honorable man retired from the
> service to be denied rights for a woman who was a druggy.

We would like to see that happen. Unfortunately his appeals
in state and federal court have gotten nowhere and the
parole board won't let him out. He's got about 5 more years
to go where they have to release him for good time behavior
and I believe they're going to try and max him out.

Edited by author 10-15-2004 02:58 AM
For those supporters out there, has anybody wrote the National US Supreme Court?

I'm a first year law student, and I'm pretty sure everybody has the right to appeal until they get the US SUPREME COURT.
it is everybody's consitutional right and it supercedes any state law.... that's a fact.

Constitution can't be denied for any measure by any STATE.



Forget the state court. I believe all rights and neglegence will be exposed by the upper courts. By that time, media gets involved, names are brought out, judges who denied rights to a honorable discharged man. It'll get ugly, and somebody important will listen.

Family and friends need to forget about the state judges, start addressing letters to the govrnor and the white house.

start somewhere and keep marching.

By the time you get exposure, a starving attorney will take the case for not much money, in exchange he gets exposure.

Make a trade, forget retainer fees, make a trade by contract, get creative on the trade services, for future cases or what ever,,,, i could think of 10 ideas already.

When Wil is found innocent, he can take recourse and sue the city... and all kinds of others for denying his rights and being wrongfully imprisoned.

even going after his ex-wife for defamation of character...
look this one up in the books folks.

somebody will probably offer Wil 60 mins. of fame for an interview... or maybe a book.....

put your heads together... exposing an honorable man retired from the service to be denied rights for a woman who was a druggy.

keep it up

-mike
san francisco, ca

I have some news about William to pass on. Unfortunately
little of it is good this time around.

First, I received a letter from William stating that he had been denied parole. The reasons given are that he refuses to admit guilt and that it's felt that he could be a danger to society.

Wil is more than 50 years old, has numerous health problems
and has had to have surgery to replace a hipjoint. He is also in a level 1 facility which means they consider him a minimal risk. That the parole board could offer lame excuses like these to continue keeping him in prison shows how dysfunctional the criminal justice system has become.

I also found out that he has been moved to Marquette Prison.
Sadly, William was attacked on the bus to Marquette. He
was put with level 6 prisoners to serve as a porter. A
porter is consigned to do various odd jobs such as pass
out meals and pick up garbage and is not in chains,
leg irons, and security boxes like the other prisoners.
Fortunately he managed to fight his way free from his
attackers and was not injured.

Due to this incident he asked to be placed in "lock-up"
for protection. This may lead to another transfer soon,
but I have no information as to where and when.

His current address to anyone who wishes to write to him is :

William Hetherington #186155
1960 U.S. 41 South
Marquette, Michigan 49855

Sorry to take so long in getting this on here. Wil called me a few days ago and requested that I post a reprint of a letter on this message board. I have some kind of head cold and I think it's affected my brain - lol. I almost forgot about my promise to him to print this. He requested that I protect the anonymity of the woman who wrote this letter and I would do that anway. I gave given her a pseudonym and fictitious address and phone number. I am not changing anything in what she wrote. Any mistakes in spelling or grammar are unchanged. The letter follows:

To Whom It May Concern on the Parole Board,

I write this letter in regards to Inmate #186155, Mr. William Hetherington. He is a highly intelligent man who deserves the right to his freedom. He is tentatively employed as a paralegal, upon release. He has 100% support from friends and family now and when he is released. Please read my letter in hopes to release him. I have enclosed my address and phone number in case you have any questions. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Madame X

Madame X
123 Dutch Elm Street
Smalltown, USA
(123) 456-7890

To Whom It May Concern on the Parole Board:

(In Regards to Inmate #186155, Mr. William Hetherington)

My name is Madame X and I am a family friend of Mr. Hetherington's. I currently reside in Smalltown, USA. I am writing this in hopes that you will read this to help let an innocent man be released.

I became acquainted with Mr. Hetherington's family in 1998. I became aware of Mr. Hetherington's situation during the last several years. I have researched many related cases in Michigan on the internet and I do not recollect any other cases being incarcerated for as long as Mr. Hetherington has been. Cases on rape, depending on circumstances, get sentenced for 2-5 years, this man has been imprisoned for over 19 years. I ask why?

In 2001 I needed money and the victim, Linda Hetherington, employed me. I had just had my daughter and need money to move. My employment concisted of babysitting her grandchildren for one week while she went to Florida with a gentleman friend. She had been taking a lot of medication, but she was still coherent and we began to talk about each other and our lives. She went into great details about what happened between her and Mr. Hetherington.

She told me how they were separated. How she began to see another man. Her and the other man (Olaf), decided they would have an open relationship and see other people as well. She decided to try to work things out with Mr. Hetherington and they began to have a concentual relationship again. Little to his knowledge, she was having an affair with Olaf. She was laughing now. She became pregnant with Olaf's baby. Olaf told her she had to get rid of Mr. Hetherington or he wouldn't take care of the baby. She told Olaf she went to Mr. Hetherington's house and he raped her. Olaf made her press charges and William went to prison, by this time she was laughing like she was crazy. She told me how she writes the parole board and saying she fears for her life. She said she felt guilty for what she has done, but she doesn't fear him at all. She was making a mockery of the parole board, for beleiving her farce of a story. This woman's guilt is killing her and the only fear she has is going to hell for lying. I realize now, I should've said something sooner.

Well the years have gone by and every year he sits; waits to be freed. He has paid his debt to society and is rehabilitated. He has been behind bars for far to long. He has a job and family waiting for him. He may have been incarcerated for 19 years, but he is already an established, respected man who needs to go home and be with the ones who love and respect him. Personally I would trust him with mine as well as my daughter's life. For I know in my heart and mind he is not a threat to anyone.

Good lord, why keep him locked up any longer? He lost his mother this year (which broke his heart), why hurt him again by denying him his freedom. His sister is raising his grandchild and he needs to come home and raise that child. Give him the opportunity he was denied for so many years with his own children. Please give him the chance to what he's supposed to do. He's not dangerous, he is an intelligent, kind, gentle and loving person. Please give him the right to prove himself. Any other decision would be wrong. Thank you for your time and compassion.

Sincerely
Madame X

Christal Hetherington wrote :
> This site is an absolute joke.....Not one of you truly
> know William Hetherington. Well let me tell you some
> things that you should know. First of all he is not
> innocent.

The evidence from the photographs that attorney Jeff Feldman found showed she lied through her teeth about being tied up with duct tape on her face. That alone impeaches her entire case. There are many other pieces of evidence showing that Linda Hetherington is a damn liar.

[Big snip of Dad's alleged drug abuse and bad behavior]

I'm well aware he wasn't any angel before he was sent
to prison. Now he's a model prisoner and a straight-A student who earned a diploma in Radiological Emergency Management. He has worked diligently at a case for years that lesser men would have given up on long ago. He was offered a job as a paralegal by James Whalen, an attorney when he was released from prison.

The bottom line is that William Hetherington, for all of
his faults, is not only innocent of the crime he is
accused of, but is quite a remarkable man. This is a
matter of record, not hearsay. The same cannot be said of your mother. I find it a sad testament to the state of our legal system that a useful, productive individual was sacrificed for the sake of a vindictive, parasitic one.

>This site is an absolute joke.....Not one of you truly >know William Hetherington.

You did not say why you think it is a joke, nor is it of any relevance whether one "truly know"s him or not.

The central question is "rape" how we define it, and what is the reason individuals are punished for it.

The major problem with rape, in the context of marriage, is how is it determine to be rape and what is the purpose of defining it so it can exist in this context.

You need to give your definition of rape and why this definition allows the ability to determine whether it has happened and why society should be holding individuals accountable.

The point, knowing William Hetherington is completely irrelevant, because the question is greater than the individual.

>Well let me tell you some things that you should know. >First of all he is not innocent. Lets see did you know >that he severly abused drugs. My earliest memory of this >was when I was 6 or 7 watching him roll marajuana in front >of me. I remember another instance of coming home from a >shopping trip with my mother to find him sitting on the >kitchen floor completely zoned out, telling us his feet >were computers and he was controlling the world. I >remember waking up to an ambulance taking to the hospital >for overdosing. I remember my dad shaving his hair into a >mohawk. I also remember reaching into the pantry to get >something and finding a bag of hypodermic needles. These >are just a sample of what I saw.

So? You had a drug addict for a dad! (Never mind the only evidence we have for this is your word) Are you claiming because of this he can be guilty of what ever comes to mind to accuse him?



>Please tell me how a man under that kind of influence and >out of his right mind could honestly tell you he did not >commit the acts upon my mother.

Could careless what he said. The system requires the one making the accusation to provide the evidence to support their accusation. If you have only to offer he used drugs in a rape case, you do not have anything to offer, other than the possibility, NOT the probability, nor anything approaching reasonable probability.

To show reasonable probability would require a relationship between drug use and rape. The best any one can offer, drugs impair judgment, but rape requires force and some evidence for the force.


>I saw him try to control her.

How exactly was this effort to control attempted? Why was it only an attempt and not successful? (You did say try)


>I saw him stalk her.

Stalk means what? And would not the stalking be more difficult with a child in tow?

I am beginning to think you have rationalized this issue to come to terms with what was done to your father.


>He did commit the crime in question against my mother and >not only on the occasion he was found guilty for.

So rape was how your parents had sex? This brings us back to the definition of rape and how it exist in marriage.


>He knows it and everyone in the family knows it.

What do they know? If it was common knowledge why is the evidence not so overwhelming, and the question could not be irrefutably answered?

Sadly, the answer is not about knowledge, but what individuals have come to believe without evidence.

If this is not the case provide the evidence.


>Remember there are always two sides to every story.

There are two and more than two possibilities. We know, by evidence to support claims.

Whenever we neglect this in our judgments, we render ourselves blind.


>Now that I am grown with a family of my own, I realize how >important it is to do the right things.

Doing the right thing is not in question, it is the claim someone did the wrong thing. This requires proof.


>And I also realize that when you do something wrong you >need admit it and move on with your life, people will >respect you for your honesty, your family will respect you.

I am a little baffled by this statement, since it implies anyone committing a crime just needs to admit it and everything is forgiven. More importantly, it assumes if everyone believes you are wrong you need to admit it.



>My dad had a chance to admit his mistakes and take a plea >bargain and be set free from jail with some counciling, he >refused.

But this requires he was guilty, but the evidence is lacking.


>He missed out on his childrens lives and grandchildrens >lives because of this.

Could not imagine twenty years in prison not causing this to happen.

Of course, if he had just gone along with the system he could be out, but this requires individuals whom are not guilty, actually committing a crime by lying.

The very fact 95% of ALL felony convictions in this country are the result of plea bargaining is a strong indication our system only works when individuals are tortured to confess.



>I guess I am past the point of feeling sorry for him. I >guess it upsets me to see this "feel sorry for William >Hetherington site"

I do not feel sorry for William Hetherington, the issue is about addressing a system problem, or failure. There are many items in his case which force the question of how a fair trial was done.


>I do agree his sentence was harsh and that is all I can >agree on as far as any of this goes.

Actually, I am of the opinion the only sentence for rape is death, but until the American people demonstrate the ability to critically think for the purpose of justice, prison is the only option.

In your dad's case it is clear justice was not the goal.



>I have had this talk with my dad. I still go and see him >on occasion and talk to him on the phone. I do care for >him don't get me wrong. But I needed to express to you >some of the other side of the story. So please if you want >to help him get out of prison do it for the right reason, >because his sentence was too harsh for the crime, not >because he has manipulated you into believing his >innocence.

I for one doubt your dad, like ALL other adults, is innocent. It is his guilt which is reasonably in question. In fact, there are elements about it which are so inconclusive as to render judgment an injustice

JT

In a message dated 8/11/2004 10:18:12 AM Central Standard Time,
qtopic+17-7GsKRAjfG2qL@quicktopic.com writes:


> And that has got to change or we can take our place with other
> 2nd and 3rd world countries and stop this pretense of claiming
> our judicial system is the best in the world because when it
> comes to men's rights; IT STINKS!
> L. Brackett
>

What do you mean men's rights? ;-) Haven't you heard we men have ALL the rights ;-) lol That is the right to remain silent and anything we say can and will be used against us in a court of law and even in our own homes. I mean, honestly, a woman talking about her bad childhood (Jeesh! How many of us of either gender cannot claim that we also had a bad childhood. Let's see when our mother used to line us up (guilty or not) and beat us with a belt or when my parents expected me - a little boy - to wipe my sister's butt because it was my job or how many other things either myself or my siblings endured as children) So that is a reason for me to take it out on the rest of the nation and society and not help those in need when I hear their cries for help? I think there comes a time when we have to forget the personal and look at the bigger picture.
These feminists have not a clue as to what that really means. If for no other reason, Wil Hetherington's case has opened my eyes as to what women can be truly capable of. I am safer because I know what can happen to me. I even had a close call last year. I could have been a father and didn't realize how close I came to that. Lucky for me "things" weren't working very well that night. And then to find out this woman is a truly bona fide psycho. And she won't give up. Our last conversation (less than a month ago) consisted of her asking, "How do I win your love?" And I replied, "If I had to spend the rest of my life with you I would be miserable, unhappy and depressed." I told her that is not a good situation to bring children into. I told her my parents never loved each other and eventually divorced and how that affected everyone around them and that I would never make that mistake or do that to other people. And this 'wise, professional (school teacher and head of the teacher's union) modern woman who has it together' replied, "Well if you change your mind, I'll always be here" and I said "Goodbye" and we hung up because she was already starting that ridiculous sobbing.

THAT is what Wil Hetherington's case and the other guys already going through living in what I can only describe as a state of anarchy - THAT is what it does for me, at any rate. I can reject this woman and her offer of 'love' because I realize that she is only thinking of herself. She's ready to marry a man like me (who blatantly says he doesn't love her) and bring children into the world in that situation. She would even move here if I asked her to. Give up her position and family and all that she's worked for. Because she's that selfish.

I don't believe that I'm being manipulated by Wil. I have talked to him quite alot and frankly I wish I could do more for him. I wish I had more money to give to him and other guys going through this. I wish I could use words that would sway the unmoved, cruel authorities who control his fate to do MY bidding and release him. I wrote a letter to the parole board and I had to write 3 before I wrote one that was fit to send - lol. This child of Wil's should thank her lucky stars or her God or whomever she gives thanks to that my point of view is in the minority in the NCFM and other equal rights organizations (so far). Most of them (including quite a lot of women) have cooler heads than I do. I tried to be moderate but I have to really try hard to do that. It's like putting on an act.

Well, basically I just wanted to say that Wil's case opened my eyes and possibly keeps me free and possibly saved my life.

Let me pose this question to the group. Those who would donate their time, money, energy to another cause - say awareness of breast cancer. Before they do so, do they make sure that the recipients of their help are truly "worthy" individuals? I daresay many of those women have problems with drugs and alcohol. Oh, that's right, I forgot. When women have problems with drugs and alcohol - that's considered a health issue but when men have problems with drugs and alcohol - that's considered a crime issue. And by the way, I know from whence I speak. One of my female cousins has a problem with crack which resulted in her stealing several thousands of dollars from our family company when she worked for us. To this day she has yet to pay it back and funny thing - none of the women in this family have that on their aggenda to ask her about it either. Hmmm.... That's okay she still comes to the family reunion as if nothing ever happened. Denial, denial, denial. Is there really truly any reason to expend any energy to save such a civilization/culture/society from the fate that awaits it?

I will keep helping Wil even if he manages to smuggle drugs into prison and do them there. I don't make sure a person is "worthy" before I do what I think is the right thing for them. I wish I could say the same for feminists.
Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

I totally agree with this reply. I am sorry to hear that Wil had the burden of dealing with drugs in his life.

But Wil Hetherington is a symbol of men being jacked around by the system.
His sentence, regardless of his guilt or innocence was entirely wrong.
It is in itself rape by the system. And the entire concept of marital rape is really a radical gender feminist gambit to degrade all men; IT IS A SICK CONCEPT!

And that has got to change or we can take our place with other 2nd and 3rd world countries and stop this pretense of claiming our judicial system is the best in the world because when it comes to men's rights; IT STINKS!
L. Brackett




At 01:36 PM 8/11/2004 -0000, you wrote:
>
< replied-to message removed by QT >

If Wil were in prison for drugs I would see your point. Just because a person makes mistakes and uses drugs is not a reason for women to lie and for the police to lie and for the courts and judges of this nation to lie. Wil Hetherington is not the only man dealing with all of these people lying and he is not the only person I am fighting for in this situation. Frankly, I don't see why men (and only men)have ever gone to any wars to risk and sacrifice what they have for the most selfish, pathetic, arrogant, weak, self-serving generation of females this nation has ever seen. I served 6 years in the military and now I would not lift a finger to help feminists take control of this nation. I hope their entire system collapses all around them. It's what they deserve for being so arrogant as to think THEY should control US. They are the enemy and even if Wil Hetherington didn't even exist, I would go on considering THEM the enemy and fighting them any way I can. As long as I'm still able to. Maybe the joke is women who only think of themselves and can't forget the past and move on with their lives. They would allow a small group to dictate what our future would be for their own selfish self-interest. My mother and some of my sisters are exactly your type. So full of hatred for men that they can't even see the damage that they're doing. In the end, what does it really matter. Y'all want to destroy this nation. Go ahead. Destroy it. I no longer care whether you do or don't. I've found a safe place for myself. In the shipwreck of life, men must save themselves and their brothers. If women can't swim, then they will drown. We won't risk ourselves to save them anymore. They claim they can do anything we can do. Let's see them save themselves from their own future. I'm just glad I don't have to share my life with any of these psychotic witches. The future they get, they will truly deserve.

This site is an absolute joke.....Not one of you truly know William Hetherington. Well let me tell you some things that you should know. First of all he is not innocent. Lets see did you know that he severly abused drugs. My earliest memory of this was when I was 6 or 7 watching him roll marajuana in front of me. I remember another instance of coming home from a shopping trip with my mother to find him sitting on the kitchen floor completely zoned out, telling us his feet were computers and he was controlling the world. I remember waking up to an ambulance taking to the hospital for overdosing. I remember my dad shaving his hair into a mohawk. I also remember reaching into the pantry to get something and finding a bag of hypodermic needles. These are just a sample of what I saw. Please tell me how a man under that kind of influence and out of his right mind could honestly tell you he did not commit the acts upon my mother. I saw him try to control her. I saw him stalk her. He did commit the crime in question against my mother and not only on the occasion he was found guilty for. He knows it and everyone in the family knows it. Remember there are always two sides to every story. Now that I am grown with a family of my own, I realize how important it is to do the right things. And I also realize that when you do something wrong you need admit it and move on with your life, people will respect you for your honesty, your family will respect you. My dad had a chance to admit his mistakes and take a plea bargin and be set free from jail with some counciling, he refused. He missed out on his childrens lives and grandchildrens lives because of this. I guess I am past the point of feeling sorry for him. I guess it upsets me to see this "feel sorry for William Hetherington site" I do agree his sentence was harsh and that is all I can agree on as far as any of this goes. I have had this talk with my dad. I still go and see him on occasion and talk to him on the phone. I do care for him don't get me wrong. But I needed to express to you some of the other side of the story. So please if you want to help him get out of prison do it for the right reason, because his sentence was too harsh for the crime, not because he has manipulated you into believing his innocence.

Hi Barry,

Sorry, I didn't notice your message until now. From what I've heard about Linda Hetherington, I've drawn the conclusion that she doesn't have the type of conscience to do something like this. Apparently she still enjoys playing the victim after all these years. I'm quite sure that she's
not going to do anything that inconveniences her even slightly, let alone risk going to prison for perjury.

In my experience, cop killers have a habit of meeting very
rough justice, at least if they're male.

Has anyone appealed to Wil's wife to throw herself at the mercy of the court and take the punishment she deserves for putting her husband and family through this hell? She probably wouldn't get nearly as stiff a sentence as Wil or any other man. A female here in TN killed 2 cops. She was arrested and finally it went to trial recently. TN has the death penalty but she got off (in my strong opinion) and only got 2 life sentences because she is female. Any man would surely have received the death penalty for killing even one cop. Even if Wil's wife was arrested I'm sure feminist groups and other human rights advocates would lobby that she not receive a severe sentence. She could make the difference here, that is if she has the guts to.

Hi Mr. Brackett,

Thanks for posting - I'll come up with something better soon at my web site. Wil did not specify a specific format but below is something I might write. It's extremely hard-hitting and confrontational, but I don't know what else to do or say at this point. I think the Parole Board might as well know that the word has gotten out about how corrupt it is, and how it broke its own rules in 2000 to keep Wil in there.

To the Michigan Parole Board :

I am writing on behalf of the prisoner William Hetherington
#186155, who is currently serving a sentence for spousal rape. It is my view that even if he were guilty of this
crime, which I don't believe he is, the nearly 20 years
he has already spent in prison is far above and beyond
what is reasonable both in terms of legal guidelines and
simple common sense.

I have reviewed the case summary notes for Mr. Hetherington's
previous parole hearings, which have been posted on the Internet and have concluded that the only reason he is being held currently is because he denies the offense he allegedly committed. In 2002, the parole board stated as its reason for denial was that it felt Mr. Hetherington was a danger to the community. I am quite puzzled as to exactly how the parole board reached the conclusion that a middle-aged man with debilitating health problems is particularly dangerous. I am even more puzzled as to why the parole board needed to meet in executive session 4 years ago in 2000 to vote against Mr. Hetherington's parole. It is my understanding that full parole board sessions are reserved solely for individuals serving life sentences.
The Michigan prison system is overflowing with people who
have already served their minimum sentences and beyond. It
is a huge waste of resources and human potential to continue
imprisoning Mr. Hetherington. I urge you to vote in favor of his parole.

Sincerely,

Joseph M. O'Connor

Hi Joe,

An activist has asked for a format of the parole board letter.

>I've never written a letter to a parole board before so what else besides
Free Wil Hetherington should I say?
>
>Ray

What should he and others ask or state that will help Will escape the Gulag?
Thanks,

L. Brackett





At 04:30 AM 6/21/2004 -0000, you wrote:
>
< replied-to message removed by QT >

I just received a letter from Wil stating that he's coming up for
parole soon and that he needs as
many letters as possible to the parole board
asking for his release.

The address is :

Michigan Parole Board
c/o Executive Secretary
P.O. Box 30003
Lansing, MI 48909

Wil says he would like everyone sending out a letter to make 2 copies
for him and send them to his address. He would also like a copy, if
possible of the response the parole board mails out.

His current address is below :

William J. Hetherington #186155
1790 E. Parnall Road
Jackson, MI 49201-7139

Edited by author 04-23-2004 06:19 PM
The address that L. Brackett (below) posted is taken from a page at the Wil Hetherington web site that should have been discontinued (it was taken out of service today. I apologize for any inconvenience). The address listed there is not accurate and will not be updated unless there is some kind of dramatic turn RE the US Supreme Court. There is almost no chance of that happening.

Go to Wil's main page and click on Update #7 to get the story behind what happened regarding his appeal.

NCFM posts the latest address that it has on Wil's front page: http://www.ncfm.org/will.htm or wil.htm, either one will work. The address posted there is accurate as of March 22, 2004. We defer to Joe, who runs this message board, for anything more current. If you have bookmarked the appeal URL please change it.

Keep checking back (http://www.ncfm.org/will.htm) as Wil gets moved around (sometimes he gets moved a lot). Sometimes it takes awhile for information to spread.

Try:

http://www.ncfm.org/wil-letterNov02.htm


William Hetherington
#186155
Egler Facility / C-Unit
3855 Cooper Street
Jackson, MI 49201





At 07:21 AM 4/23/2004 -0000, you wrote:
>
< replied-to message removed by QT >

Can someone point me to a page that has Wil's most current address on it, or can it just be posted in this thread?

Thanks, Ray

Thank you for the link guys. I'm going to write Wil and tell him about this.

Here's a new link to the "Free Wil Heatherington" T-shirts.
http://www.cafeshops.com/mensbiz/286998

Someone moved them off the page they were on to a page that includes some informaton about Wil's case. The shirt fronts all say "Free Wil Heatherington," but the backs are different on each T-shirt. One says "NCFM," and another says "Stop Government's War on Fathers & Men."

Ray

Edited by author 04-21-2004 09:10 PM
William Hetherington T-Shirts are now available at
http://www.cafeshops.com/mensbiz.10847776

Take your picture in this T-Shirt, mail it to Wil and give him some hope. His address is constantly changing as they move him around. You can get his address at http://www.ncfm.org/will.htm

Joe, can you please contact me at the following address? justiceforall5@excite.com.
I received a letter from Wil and need to talk to you when you have time....
Thanks...
Terri

Just so you know, William has contacted the Innocence Project, but according to them his case didn't meet their guidelines. I suppose that's true, since
(1) he had a vasectomy
(2) the semen in Linda Hetherington's clothes had sperm in it
(3) DNA testing under these circumstances would be totally
unnecessary in showing the semen wasn't his.

Does the Innocence Project often reject cases because things
are too easy for them?

At 05:33 AM 3/8/2004 -0000, you wrote:
>--QT-------------------------------------------------------------
> Reply by email or visit
> http://www.quicktopic.com/17/H/7GsKRAjfG2qL/m17
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Hi all again, I've been hearing alot about The Innocence
>Project and emailed them about William, but was also thinking
>maybe someone closer, more involved with this case should look
>into getting in touch with them and seeking their help.
>
>
>Anna

>--QT-------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>From me to you. I love my father, and I believe he should be out
>of prison.I do not support him for being 100% innocent, nor do I
>support my mother for being innocent. I know they were both at
>fault, but because the prosecutor in this county has a strong
>opinion one way and because others have a strong opinion the
>other way this case stays active in people's minds in my
>community. I ask you all for your support for the bull that I
>have to go through because of the wrongs that my parents
>committed. I am ridiculed because of this case. Teachers at a
>local college use this case as an exampleUpeople in criminal
>justice classes know who I am because of my last name. It hurts
>me so greatly to have people tell me how ]shitty^ my family is
>(either side) I suffer because news papers, television, and
>internet sites use my name (including this one, that includes my
>name in the picture next to my father when I was 9.) People pick
>me out because I do not have a common last name. This is a
>message to you allU, especially anyone in MichiganU if you ever
>hear my name, or my fathers in a criminal justice class, or read
>in a paperU tell whoever is in charge of the content that by
>using this case so close to home, bringing it back up and
>putting it in classes and news papers, it only hurts
>Mr.Hetherington\s family. I am by no means embarrassed of my
>mother or father, but only by their actions. I just want the
>pain to stop. I have fought to secure a relationship between
>myself and each of my parents separately (which is not an easy
>thing to do in a case like this.) I am at the point where I want
>to change my name because I do not want to be associated with
>this case any longer. I hope I am not offending anyone who is a
>supporter, but I needed to voice my opinion somewhere. Here is
>my start. Thank you all for your time, and again, my apologies
>by my sour words.
>
>Sincerely,
>Michelle Hetherington
>(William\s youngest daughter)
>

Hi all again, I've been hearing alot about The Innocence Project and emailed them about William, but was also thinking maybe someone closer, more involved with this case should look into getting in touch with them and seeking their help.


Anna

From me to you. I love my father, and I believe he should be out of prison.I do not support him for being 100% innocent, nor do I support my mother for being innocent. I know they were both at fault, but because the prosecutor in this county has a strong opinion one way and because others have a strong opinion the other way this case stays active in people's minds in my community. I ask you all for your support for the bull that I have to go through because of the wrongs that my parents committed. I am ridiculed because of this case. Teachers at a local college use this case as an example…people in criminal justice classes know who I am because of my last name. It hurts me so greatly to have people tell me how “shitty” my family is (either side) I suffer because news papers, television, and internet sites use my name (including this one, that includes my name in the picture next to my father when I was 9.) People pick me out because I do not have a common last name. This is a message to you all…, especially anyone in Michigan… if you ever hear my name, or my fathers in a criminal justice class, or read in a paper… tell whoever is in charge of the content that by using this case so close to home, bringing it back up and putting it in classes and news papers, it only hurts Mr.Hetherington’s family. I am by no means embarrassed of my mother or father, but only by their actions. I just want the pain to stop. I have fought to secure a relationship between myself and each of my parents separately (which is not an easy thing to do in a case like this.) I am at the point where I want to change my name because I do not want to be associated with this case any longer. I hope I am not offending anyone who is a supporter, but I needed to voice my opinion somewhere. Here is my start. Thank you all for your time, and again, my apologies by my sour words.

Sincerely,
Michelle Hetherington
(William’s youngest daughter)

Summary and comment of article[1] on this site:

She lost custody of children.
She sneaks into Will's bedroom and seduces him.
She charges him with rape.

Duh!

Agreed, Will's case is misjustice and tragedy, but when will men wake up?

My own tragedy was also caused by letting the evil genie out of the bottle (after succeeding in getting her into the bottle) and then getting ruined for it. I see my life as Will's. Will couldn't live without her and she knew it, she knew she had him in her power, and she knew the bias of the system. Men are so unsophisticated. We are all dead meat.

This exploitation of men goes back to at least 1500BC with the 'cult of the bull', the exploitation of male power, on the island of Knossos, Crete. It is expressed clearly in the Spanish ritual, the bullfight, and is stronger than ever. Read Aristotle's, "The Politics" and find that Will's plight is at the core of "civilization".

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[1]"Petitioner admitted having sex with his wife. She came to his mother's home and entered his bedroom uninvited although she has told the press that she opposes his release now out of fear... she had lost custody of the children."

my name is j.c. cannon,former michigan prisoner#237039,I was incarcerated with william hetherington,and knew him for many years,out of all the 10 years I was incarcerated, "will", was the only person I KNEW, who when he proclaimed his innocence...I knew it was true.I read documents,I FILLED OUT AN AFFIDAVIT,for william,in regards to prison staff corruption& harrassment towards william.GET the word out, the man is innocent,and this stuff is occurring right here ,right now,with judges,lawyers,and police, willfully& knowingly participating.VERY PATHETIC!!!!

Just became aware of this case because of a link from www.ifeminists.com and a reference to Kobe Bryant case. From reviewing the William Hetherington web site it appears the info is quite dated. Is there any up to date info on the status of this case? Thank you.

Those bastards!
I used to think that stupid stuff like this case could only happen in backward third world countries not good old fair and just America!

Looks like we have been put under occuppational rule by tyrannical assholes in black robes. And to think that just a few years ago we were all so worried about the communists taking over the country and putting us all in gulag prison camps! It happened but it wasn't the Russians or Chinese that did it.

I just read the whole story, and I think it is an outrage that this has happened to this poor man. Why don't they go back and test the sperm they had, with that of Wil's? With all the past cases of people who have been exonorated because of DNA testing, you would think that with the EVIDENCE of the sperm, they would jump on it. I think someone is getting a kickback to keep Wil in jail. Not to mention how the one Dr. said there was no sign of rape. Well, what comes around goes around, and one day she'll have to answer to God. Good luck and Godspeed.

Anna

Edited by author 06-15-2003 02:25 PM
Don't have a lot of messages here. I was looking for information on Mi. spousal rape law, do you remember what year it was made into law? I know it was not a law in 1976, early eighties right? By the way Mr Karls 2 messages below is a kook and sure won't do your case any good. He believes its a mans right to rape his wife, don't you Mr. Karls?

Hi Bob,

It's good to hear from you. I pray for the same thing every night. Sadly, Wil has had his last appeal to the 6th circuit federal court denied and has been forced to make a bid to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately his chances are slim due to
the fact that the Supreme Court only hears a very small
percentage of cases put forth to it each year.

We're currently looking into other ways of freeing him.
The Michigan Parole Board has repeatedly (and absurdly)
denied him parole, stating its belief that he may be a
danger when he is released from prison. According to documents I have at my web site, it violated its own
rules in releasing him.

Your rulers mock and scorn you and women dominate them. Isaiah 3.12

I pray Will will be released soon. It's a sad fact that our nation is permeated with cases like this. A family law system that is anti-father, anti-family and anti-God. A system dominated by women. It is utterly evil. The people that run and support this totalitarian family law system are domestic enemies of the United States of America and all it stands for. Our family law system is really a Maoist "re-education" movement forced on the nation by a man-hating feminism teamed up with the greedy,seedy lawyers.

As I help fathers all the time, I know how bad it is. One recent contact had just been released from a year and a half in prison. His crime: He was entrapped into violating a no contact order by making a phone call (he called at a specific time at mom's request to talk to his child but only got to talk to the cops). He was several states away. Washington actually extradited him (at great expense), provided him with a public pretender who sold him out, and imprisoned him all that time (at great expense).

Another father, illiterate, working at low wages, is virtually enslaved through ridiculous and undoubtedly fraudlent arrearages imposed upon him by the child support system. Many other fathers I know are living in cars, storage lockers, metal garden sheds, homeless, ....

Isaiah's prophecy was for Israel and how things would be for them in the final days. There is a great deal of evidence (historical, archealogical, biblical) that the United States and Britain represent the sons of Joseph, a tribe of Israel. If you believe that the one true God is the God of the bible, then join me in my plea to the almighty to come to the aid of fathers. Let us cry out to our creator for his intervention. How much longer will our father allow his commandments and statutes for fathers to be mocked and scorned? How much longer will he allow women to dominate us. Let us plead for his vengence. Cry out like Samson did.

DADS@attbi.com

I've created a new Wil Hetherington page at
http://www.geocities.com/tiluser/wils_page.html.
Constructive criticism is welcomed.

Wil called me last night in very good spirits and he was very optimistic about his case. It was good to hear him that way. I had a call coming in so I couldn't talk long to him but it was definitely encouraging to me. Wil and I have been communicating (time seems to fly) I think for almost 2 years now. One of his letters was published in Transitions and I responded with a personal letter and a little something for him at Christmas time so he could get some sundries. He sent me a letter and we've been corresponding ever since and when he gets the chance he has called me here at home. I guess it is more on a personal level than a business relationship. I have a friend incarcerated here in TN (Tony Pratt) and I have also tried to do what I could for him and his family. I spoke in his defense at his parole hearing recently. So I have learned a little from Tony about the inside and how these guys feel in reference to all of that. Letters from the outside are very much appreciated. Tony even asked if it was okay if he share my letters with other inmates (many of them there due to situations with women). I told him that was fine. Sometimes a little humor is just what the doctor ordered. Please don't hesitate to request my assistance in reference to Wil's case. I am only a layman in reference to any professional aspects of it. But if I know ahead of time I can budget for some of the costs incurred - office supplies, etc (Office Max is nearby in Murfreesboro - I'm like a kid in a candy store in that place ;-) I am also willing to make some phone calls (preferably evening since I work during the day and can't tie up the phones - family trucking company run out of our home). Any Xeroxing that needs done - let me know that as well. We have a Xerox in our home for our business - again let me know how many copies (so I can purchase enough paper from Office Max). So keep me in mind to take the load off some of the other guys working on Wil's behalf.

Barry Jernigan

Edited by author 10-28-2002 12:58 AM
/m4 Damn, the discussion group only allows posting of html
    files. I'll just email you the .pdf documents. They're
    pretty big, so I apologize if they take a long time to
    download from your mail server.

Edited by author 10-28-2002 01:00 AM
/m2 It's great to hear from you Barry and welcome aboard.
I'm going to see if I can post the judges denial here
along with Wil's writ of habeas corpus.

The judge stated that he considered the photographs as
insufficient evidence of innocence, even if they impeached
Linda Hetherington's testimony and that of the police. I
take it from what he said that even if it was shown that
they were lying about William, it would not necessarily
mean that he was innocent. The question as to why they
would need to lie if he were guilty is never addressed,
let alone answered.

Tasks I am currently taking on concerning the William Hetherington case :

1. Purchased a CD on Michigan parole law from Stuart Friedman's web site at http://www.crimapp.com. I have not yet received it.

2. Requested case summary notes for all of William's parole hearings from the Michigan Parole Board. I have just gotten a
receipt from them but have not received the notes yet.

3. Will make correspondence between William's attorney Warren Lupel and the Michigan Parole Board available in a form that's viewable from the NCFM website and write a summary of what is going on (Wil got 2 out of 3 votes in 2000 but was not paroled). I will send the URL to Jason Leatherman for
publication in NCFM's magazine Transitions.

4. Will contact several organizations in Michigan to acquire low-cost legal aid for William. Steven Svoboda has successfully contacted Mayer Morganroth, Alan Dershowitz's
associate but other organizations may be able to help with
other aspects of Wil's case.

This is a great idea. Thanks so much for including me in the discussion. I have been communicating with Wil for some time now. He calls me here at home in TN from time to time. I have sent funds to help him out there. I like helping people in these situations. I really want to help him. He and I are friends now. I don't understand all of the legal terminology like he does so all I can do is convey what he dictates to me as best I can.

His latest concern was about the actual innocence issue that was not broached in the denial at the Federal District Court and that was because the statute of spousal rape is void ab initio. Then it would have to revert back to common law where a wife cannot charge her own husband with rape.

That was basically his message that he wanted to get to Mr. Morgenroth.

Like I said I don't understand all of the legal terminology. He had to explain what void ab initio was and even how to spell it to me ;-)

But I would like to do what I can to help Wil. I think if he ever gets out he will be a real asset to this cause. He knows the inside of the system and I feel he will be dedicated to helping others in similar circumstances.

Thanks for hearing me out and I hope I didn't cause any problems or give the impression that I am sticking my nose in where I shouldn't. I just want to help Wil as much as I am able to.

Barry Jernigan
Murfreesboro, TN

Edited by author 10-29-2002 10:17 AM
Welcome to the William J. Hetherington discussion board.
This site is dedicated to sharing information relevant
to William's release from prison. William is currently
incarcerated in the Michigan Correctional System on
a false charge of spousal rape. Please see the NCFM
(National Coalition of Free Men) URL for background
information at http://www.ncfm.org/wil.htm