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12-04-2008 08:12 PM ET (US)
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I checked it on Yahoo the other day and the phrase, "marriage strike" had 33 Million 3 Hundred Thousand some hits. I talked to Wil recently on the phone and told him that men in America are waging a Marriage Strike because we've had it with all this BS being flung at us by the feminists, the government, the Mass Media, etc. Wil's response to this was, "It's about time." Wil supports the Marriage Strike and so do I. So why limit our vigilance only to 'women and the government'? Why take the chance on marriage at all to begin with if you don't have to? Why continue to create male victims for these monsters to exploit?
Barry Jernigan College Grove, TN
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Women's voices count. Yes. Denise Noe, over at MensNewsDaily has written several times about the case. Her messages are currently up on MNDs front page.
I have noted her message too at Antimisandry.com where several women and men have agreed to letter blast the Parole Board and show Wil that he is in our minds.
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05-09-2007 09:42 AM ET (US)
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From the lowest positions in government to the highest positions in government -- overall -- on every level of government -- municipal, state and federal -- I would bet you a million dollars that women not only are well-represented -- they dominate and overwhelm the government of the United States of America. For a single woman to complain about not having a government that represents their interests is frankly an indictment of their own kind. I suggest they take these issues up with THEIR government which I, apparently like you my friend, no longer consider representative of OUR interests and to whom I no longer pledge allegiance, obedience or recognize it's authority over me. Congratulations, ladies, you have effectively created two nations within this territory. I hope you are quite satisfied with yourselves. Too bad that you have lost sight of what is truly important. I only hope that I am alive to see it all fall down around you. It's what you truly deserve. I am going to laugh so hard. lol There is no reason to sit down and discuss anything with the feminist enemy. Dialogue serves no purpose when the enemy refuses to listen. The enemy has made it plainly clear that she is not listening to us at all. I say we stop recognizing that she is even breathing -- let alone talking. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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05-08-2007 07:46 PM ET (US)
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this new supreme court rule,in regards to ,im pretty sure #33,pleadings and alsoopinions from the lower court ,being on computer paper,is clearly reflective of rights being squashed-knowningly being squashed...this is why when people,as myself are heading out of the country...for medical reasons...im not at all concerned with coming back...please relay my regards to wil,and also tell him that the one i was in court with for so long,who he also helped out with pleadings....pretty much kicked me to the curb......godspeed!
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04-23-2007 08:24 PM ET (US)
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Oh, I'm pretty sure it's Wil. His writing and phrasing are unmistakable. But thanks for your concern. In reference to others who are already helping Wil when he still requests money from me -- I am well aware of that possibility as well. I'm not any kind of bleeding heart. I only send what I can send. And I've told him (as I said in the posting) to budget how he uses it. This was a big point of contention in him requesting money for a foot locker -- primarily to keep all of his legal papers in. Oh yes, the legal papers that have just been so 'helpful' to him. He complains about the system and how it is against him and then turns right around and puts trust in the same system? Go figure. I think I phrased it something like, "Wil, you can't eat a foot locker". That was why he was responding in the letter about budgeting his money as I had requested. I think his situation is going to have to take a different and newer phase from now on. I don't have any faith in the American 'justice' system in reference to men. I think it's a fricking joke to the point that I don't think there is any need for men to risk and lose their lives to protect such a farce as our modern society is. It is absolutely pathetically weak and getting weaker all the time. I have far more examples all around me that illustrate why I believe my attitude is the ONLY way to survive modern feminazi-controlled Amerika than just Wil's continued incarceration in the Gulag. I would say that he was just a fluke if that were the case. My nephew is a victim of DV. His mother was arrested for DWI and complains about how much better men are treated under the same circumstances. In an atmosphere of an employee of our company whose girlfriend (admittedly) filed false charges against him 3 years ago which he now faces 10 years in prison for violating his probation -- converted to being put back on probation -- stricter terms this time. The bottom line with females in my family to this is that -- get this! -- it is his fault because he stayed with a psychotic woman. So, now if women file false charges and have us arrested -- apparently according to the feminazis THAT is also OUR fault because we should have known better than to trust a psychotic woman. Having been with a psychotic woman myself -- I can vouch for a lot of guys that it is practically impossible to know if a woman is psychotic or not because they don't always act psychotic. They act like totally normal even upstanding respectable women in front of family and friends. It is only when you are alone with them that they act different. Not just in reference to intimacy and being different that way. I mean like they are a different person altogether. They cry and carry on and then you hug and console them and the tears instantly dry up and they're sticking their tongue down your throat. THAT is not the way they act in front of everyone else. And my nephew's girlfriend? I've talked to her in our family office. She asked me to use my computer and I said okay. I guess I should have said, "Tell you what -- you stop beating on my nephew and I'll let you use my computer. Deal?" lol She seemed a bit dingy but to think that she could fly into rages and throw a cellphone at his hand (a hard piece of metal, people, which can break bones easily) while he was asleep? Nobody would think she was capable of anything like that. Or the girl who lied and had our driver thrown in jail? His girlfriend, Jessie? Another basically dumb blonde frankly. But both one of my sisters and brothers can verify that she has thrown into rages at him in the past -- on the phone when he was on the road trying to do his job for us. Ranting and raving and accusing him of cheating and calling him names. Or ranting and raving about customers to whom he was delivering when we used to let her ride with him. But most of the time -- sweetest girl you'd ever want to know -- a little dingy -- but sweet. Just a little ole country girl. Or Mary Winkler. Seemingly meek and mild and a little bit dumb. Not one bit. Very conniving and able to fool everyone (especially women) into thinking she is meek and mild and a little dumb. So it's not just Wil and I'm not some bleeding heart who gives into any charitable cause. I've hung up on many a 'charitable cause' in my lifetime! lol But again I thank you for your concern. I'll take it into consideration while I'm writing out that money order. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Hello Barry,
I applaud your concern about this case.
However, I believe you should be wary of any solicitations for money from anyone in prison. You may not even be getting letters and requests for money from Will as weird as that may sound. When you deal with prisoners you are dealing with individuals who in too many cases can only get help from the outside by manipulating anyone who shows the slightest sign of sympathy for them. They have plenty of time on their hands to concoct and refine cons and they are very good at it.
So beware of sending money to anyone in prison.
And I do hope justice will be served soon (FINALLY) in Will's case. L. B.
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My only comment to what Wil is saying is this:
The last I heard he was having an operation and was temporarily at that facility and didn't know for how long. So I didn't send him anything -- like needed funds because I figured the authorities might confiscate anything I send and he would never see it anyway. Yes, I did send him needed funds when he requested them prior to his having problems, etc and I did advise him to stretch it as far as he could because I didn't have it to send. I'm planning on buying a house in the next few months and I need to budget as much as possible. I am truly sorry this has happened to Wil but the bottom line is that I personally am not responsible for the system that currently exists. The one thing I see in his letter which I think is frankly about time is his anger at women. Especially women in power which I strongly feel is wrong, wrong, wrong! History has proven that fact time and time again. I say, "Biologically correct is better than politically correct!" But humans will have to learn that lesson the hard way, oh well! LOL
Barry in TN a state with lots of "Christians" who are probably going to hell (especially women) because they chose a Whore of Babylon (Mary Winkler) over a man of God (her husband, Rev. Matthew Winkler, whom she killed in cold blood while he was sleeping). She blatantly lied on the stand. I watched the fiasco myself and then had to listen to continous support for her (a supposed abused wife who couldn't take it anymore -- yeah, right!) and condemnation of her husband post-mortem. My view is that if she lied under oath she was most likely lying when she claimed she was abused.
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Latest from Wil
Wm. J. Hetherington # 186155 Saginaw Correctional Facility 9625 Pierce Road Freeland, Michigan 48623 USA
Barry Jernigan
3/26/2007
RE: HOW'S IT GOIN OUT THERE IN THE FREE WORLD
Barry,
It's been a while since I heard from you so I thought that I would drop a note to say hello. I have restrained myself from calling and hopefully this has removed some of the oppression from you as I never intended it to be a negative.
The Governor says she is releasing over 5,000 prisoners before the end of the year. I can only pray that I can be one of them. There is a big budget crunch and this is only when they admit that they can release this many prisoners who don't actually need to be locked up, anyway! I wonder what the ratio of male to female prisoners will be in the final numbers? There are 51,000 total prisoners right now. Only about 7-10,000 females total on the outside margin. So, it would be an interesting statistic to find out exactly what the ratio of male to female prisoners that actually get released in this budget crunch!?!?!?? The public can go to www.michigan/gov.com and then go to the corrections link. Find the annual statistic book they offer free to the public. Request the actual numbers of male - v - female prisoners released from 1 / 1 / 2007 through 1 / 1 / 2008 ..?????
No Michigan prisoner can foia anything! We are barred by statute (MCL 15.231) Michigan Compiled Laws .. from obtaining any foia request of any kind of information! I cannot even foia pages out of my own MDOC files!!! I can get my medicla [sic] records but NOTHING else! Think of this for a moment? This is SIBERIA...
I appreciate every iota of your assistance over the years! I mean this in all sincerity and with a genuine fraternal thankfulness!
Few could even imagine the fatigue, mental demeaning process, and/or the stress levels generated from over 20 years of continuous incarceration! This ain't been no picnic! In fact, I have coined the phrase : " THIS IS WHAT TWO DECADES OF HARD TIME LOOKS LIKE " .. when, pointing to the premature aging my appearance reflects! The recent medical problems really took a toll on my beyond what words can even explain. I appreciate your compassion in all you have done for me. I will never forget it!!!
Barry, I did as you instructed me to do with the funds you sent me. I made it stretch as far as humanly possible! I simply am without at the present time. I can only ask and hope that you know this man would not ask if there was nay [sic] other way for me to survive this hell on earth of a place! I never had to ask nobody for nothing in my life until I wound up in prison! I worked from the time I was 15 years old. I held a job at a gas station from 15:30 - 23:00 every weekday even during the school year. Then, on weekends I worked double shifts. I worked at GM for almost 15 years right up until my arrest. I would have been retired by now!
Having said all of this, if you can please help me it would be greatly helpful to me. These are times more difficult than ever before, for me, in here! I struggle and beg for help and it hurts me deep down in my soul! I can only hope that you can hear this cry form [sic] the wilderness and the pain from which it is vented?
My own sister chides me for just calling to see how my family is doing! She is my only link now that my Mother has passed on. I do not have family that I can ask for help or I would never bother you or anyone else! The letter I wrote to the NCFM Transitions paper got printed on a delay of months. I asked for help back in about October or early November 2006 ... and by the time you and one or tow [sic] others responded it was 2007. I ordered the socks, boxes, t-shirts, shoes, and a footlocker I desperately needed. That took every cent that I got. I wrote a thank you letter in response. The reason that I needed everything is because I had counted on them paroling me the last time! I wore the things I had to actual thread bear [sic] status! Then when they denied me parole I was in a survival mode! The few things the prison issues us are not much at all! In fact, the shoes wear sores on my feet just from wearing them on a transfer or visit (on the rare times that I might get one). The brief shorts are not wearable so I don't. The t-shirts are ok but we only get 3. The socks are thin as sheet material. We only get 5 pair. The laundry system is what makes it bad. We send in our laundry twice a week (some facilities only once a week) so while our stuff is gone 2 - 3 days... we are just out of luck if we don't have our own stuff to wear. I know that this don't even explain it how bad it really is and words can't begin to tell someone who has never had too [sic] go through this mess!
Bottom line is that I got the things that I so desperately needed. However, it took everything that I had. I am having to use my good legal typing paper as I don't even have funds to get the typing paper they sell in the inmate store. This is the paper I reserve for the courts when I am able to file. I guess that I am feeling sorry for myself and should pull myself up by my boot straps and hope that they will let me go. I have stood in faith believing since 1 9 9 7. They have held me for over 10 years past my minimum sentence! That is an whole prison sentence by itself! I know that they would never hold a female prisoner like this! I am so sick of this morass that I could just throw in the towel, sometimes, when I really think it through! Not one law firm will take my case, why not??? If I was jew, black, female, or hispanic they would be coming out of the woodwork to take my case! Man, this is a screwed up system to never have been able to have my appeal of right or appeal my false conviction!
I gotta go ... I get so depressed just on a day by day basis thinking of all this mess. Then, when I have to write to ask for help it really gets to me! I am sorry for ever being a bother in any way ever! I never meant to be!
Fraternally,
Wil
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Latest mailing from Wil came from this address:
Wm. Hetherington #186155 Saginaw Correctional Facility 9625 Pierce Road Freeland, MI 48623
Included only the following:
a Michigan DOC Catalog Order Form which is only a copy and a very faint one at that.
The Phyllis Schlafly Report, Eagle Forum newsletter Vol. 40, No. 6 for January 2007 entitled, "Questions To Ask Presidential Candidates". Even she fails to mention anything about the violation of men's rights. Well, with the way everything else is going, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
A typed message (presuming by Wil himself) which states the following:
60 Minutes for Sunday 2/11/2007 Second Segment of the One Hour Program
"Timothy Saunders 17 Hours in Restraints" Dead @ 21 Years Old
www.60minutes.com cbsmainpage
(Baraq Obamma Segment was 1st segment of this days program)
Note the Interview with (MDOC) Michigan Department of Corrections Director Patrica Caruso on Deaths in Her Prisons
Also Check Out the Following www.wnem.com
key word " adultery "
Attorney Glenn M. Simmington (P-33626) Cline, Cline & Griffin 1000 Mott Foundation Building Flint, Michigan 48502 810-232-3141 Fax / 810-232-1079 E-mail / gsimmington@cclawyers.com
A Michigan spouse caught in adultery can be charged with a life felony of 1st degree (CSC) Criminal Sexual Conduct because the lesser felony of adultery triggers the life felony.
Wil's written note on the back of this page states:
Barry 2/14/07 Will you please check these out & save or get a copy of the 60 Minutes program??? Also will you post this info up on chat rooms, Emails and/or NCFM webb cites??? [sic] thanks
Again Wil
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I think the system is going to max him out. I've run out of any hope that anybody in this system is even legally sane. When they can stop any man at any time for any reason. Check their records and claim that he is seven years behind in child support. He is 20 years old. Do the math. That means he must have been 13 when he sired the child. They don't give a rat's ass. They throw his ass in jail anyway because 'their system' is foolproof. Yeah, right! The American 'justice' system is a fricking joke.
The prosecution of the Duke boys. The assault of a police officer by a Congresswoman goes unpunished. Clara Harris deliberately running over her own husband and NOT getting the death penalty in Texas. A woman in Michigan deliberately axed her own husband to death and the governess of Michigan is trying to get HER out of prison but she won't lift a finger to help Wil. I could go on and on and on and on. Case after case after case of blatant injustice committed against American citizens who are treated worse than real terrorists simply because they have penises.
And American citizens who have vaginas who consistently receive leniency even when they commit every kind of atrocity imaginable. There is no hope for this society. There is no future for this society. When you hear thousands of teenage girls talking down to their own fathers -- THAT is the future of this country. What did the Sex Pistols say about England in the 1970s -- "No future! No future! No future for you! No future! No future! No future for me!" And that's how I feel about this weak society. It has no future. I no longer care.
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/m68Dear Barry, I do hope that you manage to get Will out of this hellhole in 2007. This seems like an agonising long saga for him
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Thanks for the update on Will's plight.
I know it is cold comfort for Will but he is costing the sad state of Michigan about a quarter of a million dollars for his medical problems. It may have been a blessing in disguise for him to get so sick when the state is responsible for him and have to pickup his medical bills.
Good luck to him and hope 2007 sees his release from the "nookie" Gulag. Luke Brackett Marietta, Georgia
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Wil called this last week one night. He said the parole board denied his parole. He said the woman who had interviewed him voted Yes but the other two on the board -- a woman named Marian (?) Sanford and some guy named Barrios voted No. Wil said that Marian (?) Sanford voted Yes the last time. He doesn't understand why she voted No.
Wil said something about some website www.capps-mi.org. And how they are doing something to appeal the law in reference to parole and that those prisoners who have a high probability score for parole and no tickets like Wil whose score he says is a plus seven. I have no earthly idea what all that means but he says some woman at that website, Deana Anderson, is involved in trying to get this through the Michigan legislature. He wants me to contact her about his case.
He is currently temporarily at Saginaw while he has his operation to repair his stomach and esophagus which are torn. Isn't it funny that some in the Mass Media in Michigan were ranting and raving about the 'poor treatment' some female prisoners are getting and something better be done about it or else. But there is Wil, having had a congestive heart condition, chained to a hospital bed, passing the amount of 4 big bags of blood through both ends of his body, having to use a portable toilet next to the hospital bed -- they wouldn't even allow him supervised visits to the bathroom. And after that I'm supposed to be 'concerned' about the 'poor treatment' some female prisoners in Michigan supposedly get. Frankly I could give the glutius maximus of a Rattus norvegicus ;-)
Anyway, Wil doesn't know how long he is going to be at Saginaw. They don't let him know that 'for security reasons' (what a joke their system is that they take themselves so 'seriously' -- lol -- security reasons! -- lol). So he won't be able to receive any cards, letters, funds, etc until he gets back to the other place or unless they decide to shuffle him around again to avoid him getting any assistance. I am almost convinced THAT IS the reason they keep moving him. So you might hold off on sending anything until he gets back 'home'. He'll probably call me and let me know when that happens and I'll post it here.
At any rate, Wil did tell me it's calmer and a little nicer where he is now. So maybe we can hope that he gets to stay there a little longer. Whatever consolation that is considering his circumstance. Isn't it ironic that he has to keep his nose clean and be a good little boy to please two women who decide his fate and he has done nothing wrong to begin with and it was in fact an evil woman who put him where he is now. That is just the biggest joke to me especially when I consistently hear in the mass media how powerless women are and how it is still a male-dominated system. Give me a large break, ladies! lol They hold all the cards and they damn well know it and love to rub our noses in it is the real truth. lol
Earlier when he had his parole examination via long distance with that woman in Lansing (forgot her name but he told me) he requested that I request a copy of that for him. He is not allowed to request it himself. So he told me the wording of what to say. So I did that -- a lot of legal gobbledy gook that doesn't mean anything to me and apparently doesn't really mean anything at all anyway. They denied my request and one of the reasons they gave was -- get this (lol) -- because it might jeopardize Wil's right to a fair trial! Is that the biggest joke you ever heard or what?! The State of Michigan wouldn't know what a fair trial was for Wil if one bit them on their collective arses. lol
Anyway, he wants me to try again to get a copy. I saved the letter in the word processor so I just have to reprint it and send it again. I don't think it's going to have any different result than my first attempt. They're going to send that stupid yellow sheet with all of their 'reasons' for denying the request. But I'll do it -- if it makes him happy. I think the primary thing is to try and keep his spirits high and positive at this time. He almost died. They denied his parole. It's Christmas and his family has basically abandoned him. He's in a very bad position and he needs to keep his health up as much as possible.
He was in basic training during the Vietnam War. He got sick and got discharged before he could complete his training or be sent to Vietnam. In a way it's a good thing. It would be a total waste (in retrospect) for him to have gone to fight, kill and possibly die over there in the guise of supporting, protecting and defending a system now obviously controlled by selfish, arrogant women whose primary gripe about the Vietnam War was that THEY were not also allowed to sit on the draft board (like men) to collect the blood money to send young men off to die in Southeast Asia. Now THAT would have been a shame for him to have been one of those blood sacrifices for female dominance. lol
Wil told me about his experience at Lackland and about what happened. How the recruits were used to help look for some officer's granddaughter and her friend. How the recruits were sent out into the woods and other places, looking under objects as if they were looking for bodies of some kind. In the middle of the night out there doing that when they were supposed to be in training. According to what Wil said, the military authorities violated their own regs by taking recruits during war time away from their basic training for some officer's private use. He collapsed afterward and woke up in the hospital with some kind of respiratory infection. He was given a medical discharge and that was the end of his military career. Seems odd to me that once he was well that they didn't just send him back to his unit. He said other guys got sick too but he didn't keep in contact with them. When he told me the story it sounded very much like what Larry Warren described in the book, "Left at East Gate" but Wil thinks he might have come in contact with some kind of toxic substance (like Agent Orange) in one of the dumps that they searched in while looking for those two little girls.
As it turns out, the little girls weren't even far from their home. There was an empty house in base housing. The occupants were away on vacation. They got into the house and locked themselves in a closet. Someone suggested searching in the neighborhood and they found them in that closet -- safe and sound. Sending all those guys out to search all over in ammo dumps and under objects like fallen logs and traipsing around in the woods -- for nothing. For two stupid little rich girls who obviously weren't taught respect for other people's property and went inside someone else's home and got in their personal closet and accidentally locked themselves inside. Tax payers money and those guys' time spent for some officer's private conceipt.
But anyway Wil thinks some of his situation has to do with that incident. That he would talk about what happened and it would open a can of worms about it. I really don't think so unless it was more than just some toxic substance that he was dealing with. At any rate, I haven't said anything about it -- since it is rather controversial. But after they've denied his parole (he has what one more time or was this the last time?) and will max him out in what? 2010? I figured -- screw them. They've screwed his chances for about the last time. Might as well let it out -- it might even be something very innocuous.
But they won't give him a ribbon that he says he is entitled to because they won't release his medical record about it. They only tell him that it was some kind of respiratory infection and that's about it. They won't say what caused it or how that could have happened. So to him it isn't right that they are denying him the right to know what happened to him and denying him his ribbon because of the secrecy around the incident. Which, I would have to admit, if it was no big deal, then why refuse to release the information to him about it? Then again this is the US government we're talking about and we know what idiots they are! lol I spent 3 years at NSA. I DEFINITELY know what idiots they are! lol
Anyway that's the latest from Wil. From Murfreesboro, TN -- Y'all have a Merry Yule ;-)
Barry Jernigan
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Latest from Wil. He called a week or so ago. He was concerned that the medical personnel had done something to him which caused his esophagus to tear from his stomach. He requested copy off the net concerning this condition. I sent that to him. From what I read, very severe and continuous vomiting itself (as in cases of alcoholics) may cause this to happen. I strongly disagree with his assumption concerning medical procedure. I'm sure he was given the best treatment (aside from being chained to his hospital bed and forced to use a portable toilet next to the bed) they could give him under the circumstances.
So far he has had no confirmation about his parole request and examination.
So, at this holiday season you all might send him a card.
Cherish traditional holidays like Christmas and traditional families while you still have them. If the feminists and their cohorts in government get their way (which I strongly believe they will) you can kiss holidays and traditional families (father, mother, child -- in that order, folks) all goodbye in this country.
Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN
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