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07-08-2002 09:42 PM ET (US)
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Carol A Keller  2
07-09-2002 07:07 AM ET (US)
Lee's idea to share ideas on teaching world history is great. I'd like to talk with colleagues who teach this very challenging subject. We might want to work on Web modules that can be field-tested this fall. What about meeting after the Vasu Renganathan and Ali Ali-Dinar presentation on Thursday around 4 or so?
Josie McQuail  3
07-11-2002 11:01 AM ET (US)
Hello, all, please add my e-mail address to your list of participants because I forgot to put mine on. I would like to know if anyone is interested in visiting the Barnes Foundation as a group. Lee said that July 24 or 26 would be best (Wed. or Fri.). Please let me or Lee know if you'd be interested in going. We'd need to go as a group because parking is problematic. The Foundation is in the suburbs of Philly. It was started by Dr. Barnes who collected European Impressionists as well as some African art (I think). You may remember that the collection was at various major museums in the country on a traveling exhibit a few years ago. Even if you saw that, Dr. Barnes wanted the collection to be seen in situ and designed a decor for them so you'd see that if you went to the Foundation.
Josie McQuail  4
07-11-2002 11:04 AM ET (US)
This message was sent to you by jmcquail@tntech.edu, as a service of The Seattle Times
        (http://www.seattletimes.com).

Here's an interesting news item related to our course.
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------

        Use of word 'Oriental' restricted by law
        Full story:
        http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/...ur01m&date=20020701

        By Alex Fryer
        Seattle Times staff reporter

        Beginning today, state and local lawmakers are prohibited from using the term "Oriental" in statutes, codes,
        rules and regulations.

        Instead, officials must use "Asian" to describe people of Asian descent.

        The change is mandated by a bill sponsored by state Sen. Paull Shin, D-Edmonds, and is the first such law in
        the country. Shin said he got the idea from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., who sought to outlaw the
        word "Negro" because of its connection to slavery.

        The word "Oriental" was first used to denote everything east of London, said Shin, a Korean War orphan. It
        was later used to describe people with flat noses, small eyes, black hair and mysterious ways, he said.

        "We don't appreciate that," he said. "It's pejorative terminology. It's offensive."

        He introduced the bill last year, but it stalled in committee. At the time, many legislators said they had no idea
        Oriental was perceived as a slur. And some were confused when told it was still OK to speak of Oriental
        food and rugs but not people.


        Shin tried again this year, and the measure overwhelmingly passed. Only six lawmakers — all from
        Eastern Washington — opposed the change.

        The law immediately reforms only a lone statute that requires the solicitation of minority contractors for
        construction of city water mains.

        The law read: "Minority group members include, but are not limited to, blacks, women, native Americans,
        Orientals, Eskimos, Aleuts and Spanish Americans."

        Shin's bill replaced "Orientals" with "Asians" and "Spanish Americans" with "Hispanics."

        Since the law is limited to references to human beings, it leaves RCW 18.36A.050 and its mention of "oriental
        medicine or oriental herbology" untouched.

        Shin said he's fielded called from newspaper reporters across Asia inquiring about the change.

        He also heard from U.S. Rep. Michael Honda, D-San Jose, Calif., who told Shin he may introduce a similar
        bill in Congress next year.
Brian McKnight  5
07-11-2002 06:13 PM ET (US)
I am a generalist when it comes to the teaching of world history. My project here is to explore new (and ofter very broad) ways to introduce students to the importance of the Indian Ocean as the connector of the early world and to get them to think about the world without the ingrained western baggage. I'm not sure if others in the institute are dealing with such broad issues, but if you are, I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions on how to accomplish these goals.

As of now, I don't know if a meeting is necessary, but if you could catch me personally or email me your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Brian
Juha Savolainen  6
07-14-2002 05:47 PM ET (US)
Hi everybody!

I am Juha Savolainen and I teach history only as a part of my critical thinking courses. However, that does not stop me from milking the best possible information from genuine specialists...:) My question to all of you is as follows:
What role, if any, did the coasts and islands of Eastern Africa and Madagascar play in the "World System" of trade and exchange of Indian Ocean BCE? In particular, if it did, who were the participants and what was their respective roles? What was the contribution of the various peoples of East Africa, the ancient civilizations of Egypt and Near East, South Arabians, Indians, South East Asians?


Best regards, Juha Savolainen
Carol Daeley  7
07-15-2002 09:03 PM ET (US)
OK, so maybe this is one of those things everybody knew but me, but I got curious about the musical instrument mentioned today, "oud." When I put the definite article in front of it, "al oud" sounded, in fact, a whole lot like "lute." Just looked it up in the OED and indeed the English word, via Spanish, does derive from the Arabic "oud." So does that mean the lute itself is something else Europeans got from the Arabs? How much nicer than algebra! Carol D.
Carol A Keller  8
07-16-2002 07:10 AM ET (US)
The current "working titles" for participants in The Indian Ocean Littoral: Cartography and Port Cites, Web group #5, are.
Port Cities: The Western Indian Ocean ~ James Brennan
The Periplus maris Erythraei ~ Penelope Campbell
The Coromandel Coast: Madras (Chennai), A Case Study ~ Carol A. Keller
Port Cites and the Picturesque ~ Elizabeth Mjelde
Carol A Keller  9
07-16-2002 07:24 PM ET (US)
Great news, The Indian Ocean Littoral: Cartography and Port Cites, Group five, welcomes Mohamed and Cymone ~

Port Cities: The Western Indian Ocean ~ James Brennan
Charting the Indian Ocean from Zanzibar to Sumatra ~ Penelope Campbell
Port cities and Commerce (Mapping Trade) ~ Cymone Fourshey
The Coromandel Coast: Madras (Chennai), A Case Study ~ Carol A. Keller
Port Cites and the Picturesque ~ Elizabeth Mjelde
Port cities of the Horn: Mogadishu, Marka, & Barawa ~ Mohamed Muktar
Lee C  10
07-16-2002 11:09 PM ET (US)
I'd be happy to participate in an informal working group on approaches to teaching World History. One idea is to schedule such a meeting (perhaps over tea or beer at 4:15 p.m) when Lynn Lees is here on July 29. She and I have taught a World History course together at Penn, and Lynn has given lots of thought to how European specialists can integrate global themes into their courses.
Carol A Keller  11
07-18-2002 03:41 PM ET (US)
Message for Port Cities group -- since many of you do not have email access here are some general bits of information for our page organization.

Here is the URL for the home page:
http://lrrc3.plc.upenn.edu/indianocean/group5/home05.html

Each participant has an empty main page created -- it is yours to do with as you please, all I ask is that you keep the same URL. For example, james01, penny01, moham01, cymone01 and elizab01, etc. for your main page, since I have already linked them in various places.

Create additional pages by opening your main page template in Netscape, then go to "file" in the top bar of Netscape, scroll down and click on "Edit Page." This is the Netscape Composer edit mode. Now go back to "File" menu at the top and this time click on "Save As" and save your page as james02, james03 and so on.

REMEMBER: save to your disk or to your computer -- REMEMBER where you save your main page and put all other pages there in the same folder.

Best take the following steps--
1) Using Netscape start with the Institute home page @ http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/indianocean/
2) click on Course Modules,
3) click on our group, labeled The Indian Ocean Littoral: Cartography and Port Cities - this brings up the
lrrc3.plc.upenn.edu - /indianocean/group5/ page
4) from the menu open your page, example, james01 - then follow the instructions from above --
5) Remember you must save your page (ex. james01) to your computer or your disk so you can upload from your FTP site on your computer or Library (whereever you have FTP access)
6) replicate the template for as many pages as you need --
7) follow the FTP upload instructions Vasu gave us in his handout
8) PLEASE DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE ELSE'S PAGE
9) DO NOT ALTER THE HOME PAGE (home05) WITHOUT SPEAKING WITH ME

You may "dump" (copy and paste) your word material into each page from the Netscape Composer program that opens when you click on the file, and we can work on formatting when we meet next week. You may simply create each page as a Word document and we can formar/upload all at the same time.

I hope this will help each of us get started. Good luck!
Carol A Keller  12
07-19-2002 03:52 PM ET (US)
Two useful links:

Ann Stoler on colonial inequalities:
http://www.accd.edu/sac/history/keller/Mongols/scholar1a.html

Peg Strobel on gender and Empire studies:
http://www.accd.edu/sac/history/keller/Mongols/scholar6.html
Carol A Keller  13
07-26-2002 08:32 AM ET (US)
Lee C  14
07-28-2002 05:27 PM ET (US)
MONDAY AGENDA: My understanding is that folks dealing with "Literature and Colonialism" will be ready to make brief presentations either in Monday morning's 10:45-12:15 segment (if there is time) or sometime Monday afternoon. Lynn Lees and I are planning to meet with anyone who wants to discuss "Teaching World History" Monday afternoon around 4 p.m. We collectively can decide Monday morning whether we should schedule a session from 2-4 Monday afternoon, or leave that time for you to work on your individual projects.

TUESDAY AGENDA: A pretty full day: Discussion of natiionalism, independence movements, and their legacies in the morning (along with presentations by those of you have them); then in the afternoon Larry Bowman to discuss the post WWII era, followed by an informal presentation by Larry of some of his rare prints and maps of the Indian Ocean world.

Let me know if you have other ideas or suggestions.
Josie McQuail  15
07-30-2002 01:22 PM ET (US)
Hi, English Lit People! I mentioned this before, but exercise your interest in the subjects of the Institute by participating in the Northeast Modern Language Association Conference in Boston, Mass, March 6-9 2003. You must attend the conference and be a NEMLA member by Dec. 1 to be listed in the program.

"The 1001 Nights in the Western Imagination. Abstracts that consider the influence and impact of 1001 Nights across cultures, papers addressing issues of reception, (is) translation, adaptation, storytelling, and Orientalism are particularly encouraged. Heather Dubnick and Martin Marafioti; 141 Colon St. Beverly MA 01915 phone (978) 927-3942; dubnick@bu.edu

Also "Teaching the Literature of Africa. This panel will explore the possiblilities and challenges presented by teaching the narrative literature of sub-Saharan Africa, including works by Africans as well as by others who have spent significant time in Africa.

Annette L. Benert, 734 E. Washington Ave. Bethlehem PA 18017-6040; (610) 866-9723; e-mail annette.benert@desales.edu

All abstracts or papers need to in by Sept. 15.

Also, check out the NEMLA WeB site for other topics you may be interested in.

www.nemla.org
atman  16
10-16-2002 03:44 PM ET (US)
Iam a Mauritian filmmaker in the Netherland preparing a documentary on the search of my ancestors. They came to Mauritius as indentured immigrants from India during the british occupation. If someone has the to the database of indian indentured immigrants in Mauritius,could you please check the names cited below for info, i would be very grateful.
1 Luchminiah KOKIL, born in Amghat, Kot-anjorpur
2 Mahabal Ramchalaon
3 bhagwan Ramchalaon
4 Luckpatia Ramphul
5 Ramessar Sobrun
6 Bussea Hurrill

Thanks in advance and please accept my regards.

                 Atman Email lutz1@planet.nl
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