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Hi..I would like to find a postal worker by the name of Gary Hylton..He has removed from New Jersey to Florida..either Miami or Fort Lauderdale....anyone knowing his work or phone number could e-mail me at kennyp37@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance

Go to Florida websites and also chat rooms. Keep looking.

I am looking for information on home mortgage loans available to postal workers. Thank you

Edited by author 10-09-2002 01:46 AM
Hey Rick I read your post on the management page and I agree with you. I had 21 plus years in as a city carrier and left last November. Years ago I was asked to be a 204b and scored high on the old written test. But then I felt like I was abandoning my route, so I never did it. It is unfortunate that the USPS doesn't tap all the knowledge we have to offer. Some fool off the street has no idea what is what. Before I left, both of my supervisors quit and one transferred.Why? Because they had no power.Just do what we tell you, no matter if you believe in it or not.
I admit I probably made a mistake leaving when I did. I still have 12 years until I am eligible to retire. I just needed a break. Now with a clearer mind, I am looking into reinstatement. Sure I will be a PTF, but I miss the job. It is all I have ever known. Maybe they won't take me back and if that is the case, so be it. But we will see. Any info you can pass on to me about getting back in would be greatly appreciated.

if you ever get out to oklahoma and want to see the sites
around the training center here is their kiosk menu from the lobby brought to you by a mild mannered hartford ct postal employee !!!!
http://www.fitzteam.com/ows-doc/kiosk_docs/kiosk_menu.html

any carriers in new mexico? i am thinking about transfering there. i am currently in california.

I am looking for someone who has worked for the USPS during 1974 in the Lake Tahoe, CA area. Please contact me at labiers@yahoo.com if you have.

Please see; http://anthrax-profiler.tripod.com if you are exasporated with the status of the anthrax investigation.

I just called AT&T to get the 15% discount on cellphone bill.. that lady said since i'm on GSM, i need a GSM foundation #. Any1 know the GSM foundation #? The # posted on this web is for TDMA only.. (well, that what the AT&T lady told me..)

thanks,
ken

Stop worker comp fraud and get a reward. I am a former federal prosecutor who brings whistleblower cases on behalf of people who know about fraud against the government and want to stop it while earning a bounty for doing so. I know there is widespread fraud involving federal workers' compensation. If this is something you would like to learn more about, please e-mail me back at whistleblowerlaw@aol.com.

I am a Postal Employee Advocate who represents Postal Employees in EEO complaints and M.S.P.B. Appeals. I also conduct EEO Seminars for union leaders/stewards and other Postal Employees. Feel free to visit my web site at www.postalemployeeadvocate.com Also, as an editorial comment DO NOT trust any prosecutor. I have seen more legitimate workers comp cases pursued for fraud than actual fraudulant cases. Postal workers have enough of a challange just trying to get their legitimate claims approved. They don't need some psuedo workers' comp cop discouraging employees from filing a legitimate claim because they fear being prosecuted. Too many employees are already worked to the point of injury w/o a care by their supervisors. The fear of being prosecuted is more insidious and injurous to workers than is the very few cases of false claims.

I worked in post office for 14 years in a mail sorting facility as a clerk. I quit my job in August 2000 to take care of my baby. I want to reinstate my job as my husband is in IT field and does not have job for more than a year.
Does any body know about reinstatement process? Can my previous job be reinstated at all? Thanks.

You can just go to HR and request re-instatement for a particular office or for a District. Good luck. I don't see much CAREER hiring going on anywhere. Most are concerned about excessing or RIF's.

Edited by author 12-09-2002 07:19 PM
Desperately looking for web address for the Alabama District reinstatement/reassignment log. Worked as carrier for 9 years and left service in 2001. Looking to be reinstated but the B'ham office gave me this address that I can't seem to pull up: http://aladist.usps.gov/rlog/frmrlog.asp???? HelPPPPPP!!!!!! email me at this address:
tater@nti.net anytime day or night! thanks!
jeannette

I am looking for Jason Bell. He lived in Colorado Springs, CO and he left without a word this past summer. He had borrowed my laptop and no one knows his whereabouts. Any help in locating him is greatly appreciated. I can be reached at 719 648 6101.

Edited by author 12-17-2002 09:19 AM
I need help! My name is Vicki Jones, and I am trying to locate a California (possibly Pasadena) postal employee by the name of Deborah Townsend. She may still be employeed by the USPS or retired. In the 70's she worked under the name of Deborah Yokum. I am the daughter of her former husband, and my family really would like to talk to her. If you know her, or knows anyone who can contact her, please ask her to call me. I can be reached at 708-906-4175.

Edited by author 12-18-2002 09:48 PM
Hi,

I was injured at work. I declined a suitable job because of fear. My new treating physician told me to accept the job. I followed his instruction. The hearing represenative who reviewed the written record affimed the local owcp decision to stop compensation because I refused suitable work. Several months later I returned to work and worked two weeks. Afterwards, the MDO told me that the job was no longer available. I'm in the process of appealing the decision with OWCP; but is there anything else I can do to speed up this process? DIRE POSTAL WORKER

I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN PUT BACK ON THE REINSTATMENT LIST FOR THE ALABAMA DISTRICT. I WAS A CARRIER FOR 8 YEARS IN ALEXCITY AL. I WAS TOLD THAT ALL I HAVE TO DO NOW IS WAIT FOR AN OPENING BUT WILL IT BE THE CLERK/CARRIER CRAFT? I AM TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO INPUT MY JOB CH0ICES/CRAFT CHOICES INTO THE POSTAL SERVICE INTRANET, BUT THE HR RESOURCES HERE WON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO IT. THE WEB ADDRESS I WAS GIVEN TO INPUT MY CHOICES HAVE TO BE DONE VIA THE POSTAL INTRANET
ALSO WHEN I GET REINSTATED, WILL IT BE AT MY OLD PAY RATE PER HOUR WHEN I LEFT?
TATER@NTI.NET

HELP!!!! My name is Cyndi Fitzgerald, and I am trying to locate Lewis Tate who's last place of employment that I know of was with the postal service in New York, Queens or Manhatten (I think). He is an old friend and I would love to hear from him. If anyone knows him or where I can find him please call 434-791-2751 or email me at cyndi_212@yahoo.com.

Derek Bullock is 16 year army vetran that was in germany in 1990 and did everything not to go to dersert storm and, did not go that makes him coward. Then he wore ribbons of desert storm that makes him a lier and a coward. They kicked him out of the service. Now, he's a postal worker in Mangum, Oklahoma.
Sometime give him a call and tell him how you feel about cowards.

This is a really bad post. Shame

Edited by author 01-02-2003 11:26 PM
I agree with you sallymacc....a really bad post in poor taste. It only serves to discredit the writer, not the intended "victim". You know what they say, you can't sling mud without getting some of it on yourself!

I am trying to find John Hayes. He lived in Santa Rosa and moved about 6 years ago to another state.

If any one knows him, would you please tell him to contact me asap? Thank you

John, if you see this, :o) please contact me. In the "subject" box, write where we met, or I won't open the email.
christie0902@mymailstation.com

               J O H N H A Y E S


       WHERE ARE YOU ???????????????????????

           Christie0902@mymailstation.com

(be sure to write where we met in "subject" so I know its you)

I am trying to locate Tom Sears. The last I heard, he was a rural carrier in southern Ohio near Reedsville. If anyone knows how I can reach him, it's very important. Thanks.

Hi,

I'm looking for Ray Barnes. Last I knew, he worked for USPS on the nightshift as a forklift operator out of the Maryland, Washington D.C. area. He lived in the Waldorf, Maryland area. He has two sons. Please contact NyameDua_1@aol.com if there is any information available for Ray Barnes.

Thank You, In Advance
Darnell

I am a Regular Rural Carrier out on limited duty due to job related injury,we have 2 other light duty carriers here. My hours are from 9:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. i was working 7:00 am - 4:00 pm. now my postmasster assigns me the 1st hrs. 9-6 because the other light duty people are in early too.I thought I was to be offered the same hours not later. I signed my job offer for hrs 9-6 but am wondering if I can go back to 7-4?? i had no choice at the time for 9 - 6 hrs.

Edited by author 01-31-2003 12:02 AM
CORRECTION!!!!!!!!

Hi,

This is a CORRECTION of a post that I placed here yesterday.
I'm looking for/trying to locate RAY BARNES. Last I knew, he worked for USPS on the nightshift as a forklift operator out of the Maryland/Washington D.C. area. He lived in the Waldorf, Maryland area. He has two sons. Please contact NYAMEDUA1@aol.com if there is any information available for Ray Barnes.

Thank You In Advance,
Darnell

New Cingular Discount for postal employees! Read about it on this page:

http://www.postalemployeenetwork.com/hot-news.html

Thanks for using our message boards!
Rick Owens - Postal Employee Network

Surprised - yep I was surprised to see another postal employee site supporting the efforts of PostalWatch.org - who 'seemingly' is in favor of making USPS either partly or wholly private...to quote PostalWatch "The inefficiencies and anticompetitive disruptive qualities inherent to the Postal Service's monopoly are further exacerbated by its governmental status and the oligopoly of labor groups controlling its workforce." Read their proposed 'Comments to the President's Commission on the United States Postal Service.' Here:

http://www.postalwatch.org/pw2003/2003_02_...ission_comments.htm

Supporting postal site? Look at the following page to find out who supports these efforts:

http://www.postalwatch.org/privacy.htm

Now - ask these employee sites why they would support efforts, whether large or small - significant or not - why would they support these PostalWatch efforts to dismantle USPS.

Yes, I was surprised - you should be also.

I am looking for an old friend Brian Chambers. Who works for the postal service in California. My name is Tammy aka Tee. Please email me if someone knows him. Thanks.

Re: NY mailman
Hello, my name is Tom Wakefield of http://www.postalworkersonline.com. I don't usually post on Mr. Owens excellent site, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I (postalworkersonline.com)do not sponsor PostalWatch.com. We traded links, like a lot of postal (and other) sites do to increase their visibility and traffic. That is where PostalWatch put my link. (I placed PostalWatch in our advertising partners area). Moreover, I do not have a public viewpoint on what the Postal Service should do regarding privatization. I am open to all views at PWO and will print or post any well thought-out viewpoint from any postal employee. I have traded links with a number of postal sites that have many differing viewpoints.

Thanks,
Tom Wakefield
PostalMag.com/PostalWorkersOnline.com

Mr. Wakefield: I appreciate your visiting my message boards and your compliments on my site. In return, I compliment you on your site.

Let me just say this regarding NYmailmans comments - a few years ago I contacted Mr. Merritt of PostalWatch when he was so adamantly against the stance USPS took on the private mailbox industry - that is, businesses who run completely out of rented mailboxes at such locations as MailBoxes Etc. I conveyed my agreement with USPS on this issue since it is my belief that any customer has the right to know with whom he is doing business and should be able - if needed - to find this businesses physical location. He does not agree with this.

I also took issue with his unfavorable views of USPS since many of his views appear to make postal employees, and their unions, appear to be second class. We, the employees, ARE the postal service in my opinion and I totally disagree with almost, I repeat, almost all of his views on USPS. I think I find only his views regarding poor management judgement and improper spending of USPS funds as items that I agree with.

Since, in my opinion, he supports privatizing USPS or at least partly supports it, I would not desire my site to be a featured link on his site for any reason. If he chose to disagree with this and state that he does not support privatizing USPS, or any part thereof, and that he respects all postal employees and the jobs that they perform then I would be glad to rethink my opinion of his site.

        
Still Looking for Lewis Tate!!
If anyone knows him or where I can find him please call 434-791-2751 or email me at cyndi_212@yahoo.com.

I am looking for someone I met about 5 years ago and he worked for the Post Office in Boise, Idaho. We met at Brian's and ate pizza :>. You worked with my brother Jr. If you are out there--e-mail me at berreta1981@yahoo.com

Edited by author 03-24-2003 03:30 PM
HI, I AM LOOKING FOR DANIEL L RAY OR L RAY DANIEL WHO WORK FOR Post Office in Columbus, OH at 850 twin river drive and working at night at a flat sorter or distribution or he may have change or retire. contact my email ses3@cdc.gov That was back in 1982 until i left 1985.

Gunny!! I'm looking for a Gunny Seabrooks that was in the marines with me, at Henderson hall, va. He was working at the PO in washington D.C. or a PO in that general are.

So glad Jo Ann Scala is gone from the AMC in Nashville as the plant manager. This lady was a psycho and also a dyke.

is ANYone here working in ANY offices in Montana or Idaho?
thanks

What is the story with the early retirement. Still waiting and ready to go Postal.Why is it taking so long to sign a piece of paper.

looking to be reinstated and wondering if reinstatement occurs at old pay rate. was a city carrier for 8-9 years and resigned in 2001. Looking for info about reinstatement,etc. also , need info of remote encoding centers in tampa florida. why such a high turn over rate?
tater@nti.net

are some minority race in USPS working as supervisors or managers ?

all i want to know is whether there are really equal opportunities for the minority race in USPS.

thanks a lot,sincerely.

Yes, too much!!

Is it really true that USPS delivery vehicles are not allowed to back up (i.e., drive in reverse)? We live on a dead end street with no turn-around. One would have to do a 3 point turn (involving reverse) to go back out. USPS will not deliver to the house express mail, certified mail, registered mail because of this alleged "no driving in reverse" rule. IS THIS FOR REAL? Thanks for any info.

Yes, it's true...You should see how hard it is to turn those trucks around in the shop. After fixing them, we have to get about ten guys to lift the truck and turn it around so we can drive it back out....only in america..only in the usps...

How does one take an in service examination? Where do you sign up to take one? Can I apply on the usps web site? Does applying at usps/employement automatically make it an in service examination? Who knows?

hey texas grandma! are you still looking for someone who works in montana or idaho? if so are looking for transfer info? let me know if this what you need. i may have some info for you?

If you are looking to transfer within your district, check out the DIRECT LINE publication. The last few issues (current issue dated june 6) for the western area has an indepth list of transfers available in the our area. Perhaps your area has such a listing too. It's worth looking into it. Western Area listings currently available cover the following states: WA, OR, ID, CO, MT, WY, MN, NE, SD, ND, KS, MO, IA and AK

To Shaddup -- you can't be serious! Our mail delivery person in Pennsylvania (when we lived there) had no trouble whatsoever turning his truck around. We're not talking about the giganto trucks -- these are the small delivery vans. Now, tell me the truth. Is our post office making this up to cut down on delivery time? What's the point of sending and express mail if the recipient has to go to the PO to get delivery?????? Thanks.

FYI:

There is no rule that you cannot turn a USPS vehicle around or use reverse. It is REQUESTED that drivers do not use reverse unless it is a 'have to.'

Three point turns are allowed also. LLV's have blind spots and no rear windows - this can cause backing accidents or worse - that is why we are asked not to use reverse unless we absolutely must do so.

Who must pay the bill when a carrier has an accident backing up on his rural route?

The Postmaster delivers our express mail. There is no way carriers can get there on time.

Sally

By the way, if you have an accident and your insurance covers you while you work. You are responsible for the damages. If your ins doesnt carry you, PS has to pay.

USPS carries no insurance on vehicles - each vehicle accident is paid for individually. If the other party is at fault then they pay - if the carrier is at fault then USPS pays, but the carrier MAY have to reimburse USPS because he/she is at fault. Remember - I said 'MAY.'

Is there an SDO interested in moving from Bakersfield P & DC to San Francisco P & DC. I am a level 17 sdo in automation with weekends off.
Serious inquiries at frescoboy@yahoo.com

Thanks, yes that is what happened. Have you heard of early retirements yet for rural carriers?

Edited by author 07-08-2003 07:59 PM
what is really going on with the postal service,who ever heard of someone receiving a PDI for sitting down during wash-up.P.O-DVD. what is postal life, is there a memorandom for all SDO's givin by their superiors to jeopardize jobs by any means necessary.I was told by my SDO that the thing that separates management from the employee is the level of intelligence.Question, do MDO's earn their title's or are they handed to them as a gift.it is said that there is no discrimination in the postal service ??
I was told by the MDO that attendence was a criteria for retaining a vehicle licence.what kind of head game is the postal service playing with their employees?

scottytjbb@verizon.net

If you believe that pigs fly then your SDO is correct when he talks about intelligence separating the craft from management. Seems the screw ups in management get the promotions that others deserve. Attendence has nothing to do with your license. The State gives you your license and not the PO, and the only thing the PO can do is suspend your driving priviligeges is if you are invovled in an accident or are observed violating safety. You sound like you are working for some real brainless morons.

Dave B

Maybe the SDO was NOT impling that s/he was smarter than the craft employee...

Being a first line supervisor in the PO is NOT as easy as most people think. The pressure from the District Office on Postmasters, Managers and supervisors currently is horrendous. The stress level is unbelievable. Some people are better equpped to deal with stress than others.

However, as in the craft, private industry, or anywhere there are human beings, there are bound to be poor or downright awful supervisors, regardless of the pressures of the job. And that is true no matter where you work (unless you are self-employed or retired).

postalgrammy

You could be right that the SDO was not implying that s/he was smarter and maybe it could be construed as the other way around.

I know what it's like to be an SDO and be micromanaged, that's why I went back to craft just prior to 2 years so I would not lose seniority. Seems like you were not allowed to use your brain and this would further insinuate that craft is smarter than management.

I can understand when you suggest that anywhere there could be poor workers, but this is a PO employee forum and we post messages about the PO and not private industry, so I really could care less about the private sector.

Edited by author 07-11-2003 04:30 PM
thanks Dave for your response but what i cant seem to understand is how can someone come in as a casual and within four years time become an MDO,this job was one of my dream jobs,to which I have been employed for eighteen years, today I sit and watch the many injustices transpire in front of my face and feel as though I am in a nightmare and I am drowning in a pool of stagnated water
and all my years were in vane. sure the mail is important,but so are the people,why can't management understand this?

scotty,

They look at us as employees first and human beings second, but it should be the other way around.

Is anyone else being hassled about using their approved FMLA?

is it difficult to transfer to be a FTR from a PTF?

Edited by author 07-19-2003 02:37 PM
I am a casual employee in Puerto Rico. I take a 460 test in St. Thomas and St Croix in sept 17 and 18. I won't receive the score and i am sure that i optain a good score. what's the address to solicite the score in USA.

    future_business@yahoo.com

Thought I would list a new Message Board system that Rick Owens, the founder of Postal Employees Network setup in late June of 2003. It is listed at the bottom of his "Quick Topics Forum" list that brought us each here from the Postal Employee Network, but is not being seen by most, nor utilized to it's fullest.

http://postalworkz.proboards20.com/

Looks like Rick Owens is leaving this forum up in conjunction with the new one, so it will take an organized effort by everyone that visits here to use the new Message Board.

The advantage to the new board that he created is that it allows organized responses to topics created and moves away from the streaming thought text postings here. I am new to this forum I know, but had been involved in the creation and management of free open forum message boards on a daily basis for the past 3 years as a Moderator. I can without a doubt say that the Message Board type he is wanting to use is SOooo Much Better than this type. I hope that we as USPS employees can better share knowledge and experiences through an organized method of communication, thus why I am posting this wonderful New Message Board system that Rick Owens has created for the Postal Employee community.

Spring

I agree with you concerning the new message forums. This type is very confusing and this new one will allow us to post specific topics and if they are the topic that you are looking for, it will be much easier to find the answers. We PO employees are creatures of habit and we do like to resist change, but all of you need to know that this new format will be easier to find what you are looking for and there will not be as many repeat posts. I have already made a post on the new board and think it is great. So, come on everyone and join in and it will be easier for all of us.

Who makes the decision about whether or not an EAS position is posted open to craft employees? Does it matter what level EAS position? For example, could an EAS 18, Manager Field Maintenance Operations (with no supervisor below them)be posted open to craft employees.

can anybody tell me the Maximum number of work hours can i PTF work weekly? thanks

jack

60 hours a week.

They are not supposed to go over 56 in our district without the PM's approval.

To Rick Owens -- thanks very much for your response re no specific rules for USPS vehicles turning around or going in reverse. I appreciate it.

Puzzled - you're very welcome. Just remember this - if, I said IF, there is an accident while you're backing USPS will want to take the attitude of we allow no backing...which is not really fact. However, go out of your way to keep from backing if you can. That will always work.

I'm a PTF clerk at Chicago Bulk Mail Center and am planning to move to California. Can anyone help me find some info on clerk or carrier vacancies in California? Thanks

Hi am from Alabama am not a postal employee but Iam looking for a good friend maiden name is Felicia Dyann Silvey please help me out. Everyone has been asking about her contact 2766076

If you have not already done so, please have a look at the petition to investigate the merger of the APWU and NPMHU.

http://www.petitiononline.com/npmhu/petition.html

The merger of these two large postal unions can result in increased strength, solidarity and organizational power within our changing and threatened work place. Reduction of infighting and grievance activity that currently takes place between the separate unions will eliminate the USPS management’s “divide and conquer” tactic, which successfully undermines all craft employees.

We the undersigned do hereby petition and request the leadership of the National Postal Mail Handlers Union and American Postal Workers Union to take all necessary steps to fully investigate a merger between said unions. This investigation shall fully explore all possible ramifications and legal obstacles of a merger that results in the formation of one union that represents all employees currently under the jurisdictions of these two unions.

The NPMHU and APWU shall begin the process of initiating this action and begin the investigation process within ninety, (90) days of receipt of this petition. The complete investigation should be final within one (1) year of beginning said process.

Upon completion of all investigations, all resulting information will be shared with all current union members of each union, APWU and NPMHU. After all information has been shared and sufficient time for feedback from each unions membership has elapsed, a vote shall be held whereas the full membership of both union will determine if the said merger shall take place.

What is the difference between a transfer and a reassignment?

Lostinspace

A transfer must be requested, while a reassignment would be involuntary, for the benefit of the service, probably based on contractual language.

I am sending this message to encourage all Postal employees to tune into the Mad TV episode that is denegrating the Post Office. Write down the names of all the products and companies that are sponsoring this tripe, and send them an email, fax, or letter protesting their sponsorship of this tasteless Postal Service bashing!

Just think if even 1/10 of us boycotted these companies! That's over 70,000 people! United, we can move mountains!

Hey folks. I have just signed up for an FSA account and have a question to those of you that may already use them. Can I withdraw the money in advance of the....say dentist appointment? Or do I have to wait to receive a bill. Also, how long does it take to receive the funds? Appreciate your input. Please email if you have info to:

joeinwv@charter.net

Thanks,
Joe

Edited by author 12-19-2003 06:43 AM
Why is it that postal employees don't get any kind of Christmas gift or a bonus?? I know supervisors get huge Christmas bonus's for keeping overtime down and for our hard work. I think it's a shame that we don't get anything from a multi billion dollar company for our good service.

Whoa! I'm a carrier supervisor and I can tell you, all I got for Christmas was a seven-day workweek, overtime on all seven days, and NO bonus!!! Happy Holidays to all!
Becky

I am trying to locate an old friend that works for the USPS (letter carrier) in Houston, TX. His name is Jhonie Seale and is about 53 years old. Thanks! My e-mail is: ikerguelen@yahoo.com

Anyone know what a 'ramp clerk, AMF' job entails?

Anyone know wheree I can find a site that has postal pictures or gifs for your personal email???? Thanks.

A REMINDER TO NEWBIES...

We have just started a discussion forum at QuickTopic for our topic
"bigclassaction.com List of Names - Failure To Properly
Administer the FECA". To join in (or just to read) use your web
browser to go to:

http://www.quicktopic.com/25/H/Wkp8wFJbsrV

To TNMAIL We did get a Christmas gift of 10 postage stamps. My husband is a Mailhandler.
I am retired Nurse and I worked for a assisted living complex and we recieved at least 150 to 200 dollars at the holiday.

To anyone in here who has a job offer that contains the term "other duties as assigned", there may be a way to get this removed from your job description. This is just more proof that the OWCP and PO are not administering the FECA properly.

Under ELM 546.14, a determination is to be made if you are to be offered limited duty offer or a Rehabilitation offer. Limited duty is reserved for injured employees as they go through the recovery process and have not reached maximum Medical Improvement. If you have reached MMI and there are residuals from the injury and you will have permanent restrictions that will not allow you to work full duty, then you are to be considered for the USPS Rehabilitation Program and the term "other duites as assigned" must list examples of these other duties. This is found in Hnadbook EL-505 Rehabilitation Program under section 11.8.

Let me all know if my interpretation is accurate and if you feel you meet this criteria, have them remove the catch all phrase that causes further injury removed from your job description so that these abusive type managers cannot cause you further injury by picking weeds or picking up cigarette butts or anything else they may try to use to belittle you and cause further injuries.

ATTENTION ALL VETERANS- If you are forced to payback your military years, with all the interest the Postal Service has added. You have a voice. First of all you can claim these payments on your Federal tax return.
1341 Section Claim Of Rights. You can not use it to lower your gross income, however you may use it in the schedule A
of your tax return. Itemized portion. In addition we must all band together and fight these outrageous payments. What started off as buying 8 years back a total of 3,000.00 is now over 12,000.00 because of the interest. Unfortunately when I was hired I was not told about paying back this time. We just automatically figured our time in the military counted. There is a ruling that you don't have to payback this so called pension if you didn't receive it.In the mean time claim this on your taxes. Also some more information. The dependent tax credit that President Bush gave us last year. 400.00 per child. This was only a loan and lowers your current tax return, by exactly how much you received. HHMMM they failed to disclose this to us, when we were all busy cashing and spending those checks.

Attention:
eeoctech2@yahoo.com is looking for anyone who has had their Doctor visited/contacted by Postal Inspectors, Management, Supervisors or.. without their prior knowledge

Hello. I recently fell in love with and purchased a 1955 Dodge Postal Service Delivey Van. Is there anyone out there that remembers or has any info or contacts about such a machine. This style is very unique, not your typical jeep type affair, and will be wonderful when I get it restored. I believe this vehicle saw service in the Colorado and Kansas regions. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated!

Bill Current
3200 Fir Drive
Rock Springs, WY 82901-4166
307-362-0561
current@onewest.net

I have been a part time regular carrier in night collection for 16 years. I was a letter carrier for 10 years before that. The post office wants to eliminate our unit and make us all part time flexes. Are there any part timers out there? Do you know any part timers? Has anyone had similar experiences with the P.O.? That is elimination of their jobs and subsequent lose of benefits? Anyone have any information in the contract that would be relevant to this matter?

I would also like to get some information about PTR's in either S.F. Cal. or Oregon but any information would be appreciated. Any information about the VIMS routes being moved to the stations? tom2w@foxinternet.net

I'm looking for Leon Davis who work for the Chicago Post Office in 1956. He and sister Lillian from Mississippi, lived on Hamlin & 16th Street in Chicgo.

If you know how I can reach him please email me vonan@hotmal.com. Many thanks

Looking for Leon Davis who work for the Chicago Post Office in 1956. He and sister Lillian (from Mississippi) lived on Hamlin & 16th Street in Chicago.

If you know how I can reach him please email vonan@hotmail.com. Many thanks

I posted this witht he carriers as well...Here in Yonkers, NY we pay cit,state and fed taxes...YUCK!! But the city taxes are NOT taken out from our checks...How can we get finance to change this?? Do any other localities also pay?? I just might as well make an allotment to the bank and earn interest on the money till I have to pay... Lemme know ok? tft

Edited by author 04-20-2004 11:51 PM

i need the usps website address that is available on the computers in the post office...i know i can access it from home but can't remember what it is....

HAS ANYONE IN RURAL DELIVERY HEARD ANY RUMORS ABOUT AN EARLY OUT FOR CIVIL SERVANTS RURAL CARRIERS?

PLEASE POST.

An Indiana publisher is looking for someone to review material for a book on the Postal 470/460 exams. There is compensation for the work. Basic knowledge of MS Word is required. If interested, please contact Carol at 800-571-5840 x243380 or by email at carol.ackerman@pearsoned.com. Thank you.

Hi,wanted to post an urgent "heads up" to all CRS employees about current legislation to REPEAL the WEP law, the Windfall Elimination Provision. The WEP law alows the govt to take away Your soc. sec. benefits, either in part or all. I had read a "35 %" reduction mentioned somewhere and was shocked to learn that in my case I may lose ALL of the soc. sec benefit I earned.YOU may,too..Go to www.NEA.org or www.dingomt.com/ssoffsetlaw to email your legislators and sign a petition. Tell your fellow workers now and contact the govt or you could lose a lot at retirement. Please.

Every postal employee, supervisor and manager should check out the messages on postal police discussion page messages #178 & 180.

/m102 You cannot access the "blue" website from home at this time.

I was wondering if anyone knew where i could get a copy or read the oath you take before becoming a postal employee.Thank you for the help

I don't know if anyone might be interested. A friend forwarded me this offer for all public servants, including postal workers, at Borders. It's for 20% off of purchases and is happening 6/25-6/27. Here's a link to more info. http://www.bordersstores.com/features/feature.jsp?file=savings

I hope someone can help me find the pay chart for postal workers. I have looked everywhere and found nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

  
 
06-27-2004 12:05 PM ET (US)
 mid march of this year i had undergone a coronary heart bypass surgery. I had used up all my AL and SL, which i do not have much. I had applied for the leave donation program and i was able to get some from my colleagues. at the present i have not gone back to work as per advice by my doctor (I had developed complications of pneumonia and infection in the bloodstream) and due to this i have been on a LWOP status for almost 2 months, although i use my donated leave (not much-20 hours per pay period))to cover my normal deductions(insurance, etc)so that i would not be placed on a non pay status. I AM JUST SURPRISED THAT THERE IS NO TEMPORARY DISABILITY PROGRAM THAT I COULD AVAIL OF. I had tried the State (New jersey) and they had responded that we are considered federal employees, henceforth i was not entitled with the states temporary disability program. I F SOMEONE COULD SHARE WITH ME SOME INFO AS TO WHERE I CAN APLLY FOR TEMPORARY DISABILITY UNTIL THE TIME I WOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN TO WORK, THANK YOU.

Please take time to read message #178-180 on the postal police discussion page. Once you read these messages please pass them on to others. Thank You

Can a PTF clerk automatically obtain a PTF carrier position without taking the test again or do they have to take the test and show up on the list to cross crafts?

Posty

You can apply for disability retirement through the Office of Personnel Management. Contact your local personnel office for more info or www.opm.gov. Once you can work again, you are afforded reinstatement rights back to the PO.

Edited by author 07-14-2004 01:50 PM
Do any of you know Carl Dalland. He used to be based in Vero Beach FL.
I have not seen him for 18 years. I have been looking for him for a long time. He was a Census Bureau Employee and transferred to the Post Office in Vero Beach around 1985
Corina@reliable-net.net

I am trying to remember a hat/cap company that had a large selection of letter carrier, and other official hats. I belive it was in Texas and the Name had something with U.S. in it? Can anyone help? I'm looking for a novielty cap. Thanks, M

WANTED: RETIRED to work PART TIME as an independent sales representative selling postal uniforms in select areas of the U.S. Great opportunity for additional income. Please submit your resume to : Debbie@tyleruniform.com or fax to Debbie @ 903-593-0019.

I'm interested in hearing from Associate Supervisors in the USPS universe - Would you do it again if you knew then what you know now? How was the entry process?

Are postal workers federal employees.

If so, are they unionized and can they go on a strike?
email me at: timex6@aol.com

Thanks!

Lloyd Jones

We are Fed employees, we are Union, and we cannot strike.

Jones,

Remember the Air Traffic Controllers, they were union and they went on strike and they got fired. Postal employees are unionized but they can't strike and if they do, they could end up being fired.

Do your research ;)

We are Postal employees. Not federal employees. The US Postal Service is not a federal agency. It is a quasi-federal arm of the US Government.

Regardless, we cannot strike since we all work for the good ole' Uncle Sam.

Recently I was hurt on the job and i received a letter of warning of it. I was never given the jsa on the new piece of equipment I was working on. I won the case but with restrictions, which are a power lifting class and a reveiw of the jsa with mgmt.and the steward. Do i have any rights in this matter.Also what happens if i get hurt again.

PS I filed for cop

What kind of rights did you have in mind?

Thank God I found this site... perhaps someone who's been where I have may have some good advice. (Please excuse my excessive rhetoric, I'm just really pissed off!)

From 8/03 to 2/04, I held a position as a Data Conversion Operator at the Beaumont (TX) Remote Encoding Center. The pay was great and the work wasn't hard, but one problem after the other unfolded, and I got canned!

OK... The REC in my area was/is touted as THE PLACE TO WORK for college students, because of its high pay ($12.27/hr) and work schedule accommodations. So I went for it -- I easily completed the testing process, and was in the workroom in a matter of weeks.

Sparing you all the minor details, I asked my supervisor to cut my hours, as was promised *no less than three times* during the orientation... but he NEVER would do it! And I know full well that other college students in the facility (who may have had different supervisors) did get switched to working crews. Hopelessly stuck working 30+ hour weeks, my academic career began to go downhill. I ultimately made an F and three D's that semester, and LOST a scholarship which paid for 50% of my education.

In January, I came down with appendicitis, and would have to miss two weeks of work. Although I couldn't control that circumstance, I believe that it contributed to my discharge.

Upon my return, I continued working hard and meeting the quotas until the end of my appointment the next month. Having not been re-appointed, I called up my supervisor and asked him why I was discharged. He said that my speed and accuracy weren't high enough. (I don't buy it for a second!)

Not wanting to argue (and possibly affect my chances of re-hire,) I asked him if there would ever be a possibility of re-appointment, and he said I would have to START ALL OVER with the written 710 exam. (I thought the qualification was good for three years!)

Needless to say, I don't think this is fair at all. I also doubt his supervisory aptitude, as he was almost NEVER actually present at the REC, due to his involvement with the U.S. Army Reserves. It also seems as if he penalizes the employees for being "human." (A "human" might be a little late for work because they blew a tire on the way. A "human" might (very occasionally) take a little too long of a break because they had to go to the restroom. And God forbid that a "human" may even have to have surgery, which will invariably keep them away from work! But us "human" employees are also the best of the best typists!)

Should REC workers have to park motor homes outside the facility, and live in them? Should they be denied bathroom usage while clocked in? Should an appendectomy be a pre-requisite for employment? Hell no!

Anyway, let's go on. I recently went back to the REC, and asked to speak with a union steward... They wouldn't let me in! (Some kind of "homeland security" B.S., I'm guessing. I even volunteered my identification to prove that I did once work at that facility, but they still denied me entry.) When I asked for the APWU Local phone number, they gave it to me... or so I thought! It proved to be BOGUS!

As you all probably guessed, I'm trying my damnedest to get that job back! Since my scholarship has been lost, it's my one and only hope of ever going back to college. (After all, a Data Conversion Operator position IS the highest-paying entry-level job in my entire area!) But what should I do? I'm completely STUCK! I've already sent a letter to H.R., but they seem to be taking their sweet time with the re-hire process! Is there any way I, or the Union, could help things along? And maybe get management to give that particular supervisor the boot, somehow?

[If the Postal Service didn't arbitrarily have people who challenge its authority (even if by non-violent means) thrown in the gulag, I would consider making a citizen's arrest! Even if employment is "at-will" in the state of Texas, I know that some labor laws have been broken!]

Jason L:
I don't know if I can help you but would like to give you another viewpoint. I've worked at a Remote Encoding Center in California for 9 years so I know a bit about what you're going through.
 
In our facility, employees know what their speed and accuracy rates are. But at our place, attendance seems to be the #1 factor for TEs not coming back. If you had other attendance problems besides the surgery, *and* your speed/accuracy was just okay, that, to them, is enough not to renew your contract. From what I've seen, once a TE's contract is not renewed, that's the end. He will never be back.

I think you should really forget about this job. Working as a TE at a REC site will probably get you nowhere, as far as promotions go. You should focus on finding a new scholarship instead, and go to school so you can find yourself a good job after you graduate.

Jason L! I had to laugh at your message. You write rather well and I enjoyed your rhetoric. Let me tell you that I was an employee of the REC in Nashua, NH years ago. I am still employed by the USPS, but I switched over to the carrier craft as a PTF carrier. Let me tell you something...what you experienced is the norm and it happens no matter what state you work for or what post office you work in. The postal brass are all screwballs, I am sorry to say. When I was a DCO at the REC, I was maintaining a 99.8% accuracy rate and was keying at speeds in excess of 14,000 kph. What did that get me that I was the equivalent of 2 employees? NOTHING! I had taken TWO MINUTES over on my breaks ONE day! During an edit, I had a piece of trash Pseudo Supv. (204B) come tell me that I was over by 2 minutes for the day on my breaks and I needed to watch my time. Well, that just did it! I went off on that chick to say the least. I proceeded to inform her that she should get a foghorn and beckon to me from across the huge workroom floor when it was time for me to come back to my terminal for break. I also argued that I was the freaking equivalent of TWO workers and how dare she be so damning over 2 minutes. My work production FAR EXCEEDED the two minutes that I "wasted" of their time. After this episode, that was the beginning of the end as the "model employee" that I had been. I immediately became involved in the union, took on the Chief Steward position at the REC, where I represented about 400 employees. I can now proudly say that I am a STAUNCH pro-labor anti-mgmt. employee now. What you describe is so typical of postal brasshole behavior that it makes me sick. The postal theory of mgmt. and how they "run their ship" is the most senile view that I have ever known. The pay is great, sure, but money doesn't buy happiness. Good luck with your pursuit. Why don't you contact one of your legislative members & tell them your story. I can tell you one thing for sure...the PO HATES negative publicity.

I think this demonstrates why most supervisors are so worthless. The best employees usually quit or they wise up and stop doing such a good job. Who would waste their energy doing above the minimum with no incentive? When the rare PTF positions do come up, they go to people keying right around and often below 7,150. Then the PTFs get jerked around and that further weeds out the productive workers. Of course, since the postal system is mostly made up of these people, they don't see a problem with it.

Recently I was taken for a fitness for duty exam. Management stated that it was because of frequent bathroom use and "erratic behavior". They will not specify what behavior was erractic. Initially they refused me union representation and also refused to give me a probable cause reason for taking me to the medical unit. Management stated that they did not have to give me a reason. After two days they finally decide that frequent bathroom usage and the mysterious "erratic behavior" was the reason. They never approached me about my bathroom usage and did not remove me from the workroom floor. They allowed me to drive my car on the clock to a drop ship bulk mailer. An hour later they came to that location and took me to the medical unit. Is there postal policy outlining the amount of times an employee can use the bathroom in a 6.5 hour period of time? Does management have to be specific when claiming erratic behavior? This action was in direct retaliation for two current EEO claims pending against these managers. Any info will be greatly appreciated!!

The plot has thickened yet again... As I mentioned earlier, my supervisor was very seldom present at the REC, as he was in the U.S. Army Reserves. According to the H.R. lady, he was recently called to Iraq! Now he can NEVER be judged for his actions!

In that same conversation with H.R., I asked how far down I was on the re-hire list. She said:

"It's not a matter of how far down you are on the list... every couple of weeks, a list of names gets passed around to the supervisors, and they decide whether or not to bring back any particular person."

In a nutshell, they vote on the re-hiring of employees, and H.R. pretty much has to do what they say. That would naturally mean that supervisors can push to keep their "favorite sons" on the payroll, even if they can't perform worth a damn.

Nepotism exists at the REC as well -- I know, by name, at least two individuals who rode their mothers' coattails right onto the workroom floor. (I doubt if they even had to go through the qualification process.) And I'll bet my last 50 cents that they'll have a job as long as they want it.

Kate commented that the employees who key right at or below 7150 ksph are chosen for PTF positions... so let's say that a supervisor's daughter might key only 1270 ksph. It's doubtful that neither the other supervisors, nor the plant manager, see the numbers, so since she's (most likely) on one of her mother's crews, she's pretty much guaranteed a career position. (It's certainly possible to live VERY comfortably on $12.27 per hour, but I do know that the career employees get paid a LOT more per hour, for the exact same work -- just longer periods of it.)


This unfortunate occurrence was pretty much unavoidable, but what should I have done -- perform surgery on myself with an X-Acto knife while on break, only to be imprisoned for possessing a weapon on federal property? Seems as if the supervisor wanted to impose a permanent sanction, regardless of the fact that appendicitis is a "once-in-a-lifetime" problem. I even offered to show them my surgical photo -- an incontrovertible piece of evidence -- but they didn't care to see it. Talk about IGNORANCE!


The REC management is in the wrong, we know that. But what avenue(s) of recourse could I take, if the Union is of no help? The system is ridiculously hard to fight against, and I can't afford an attorney.












And by the way, Marchelle, the labor laws state that an employer/supervisor can NOT stop you from going to the bathroom when you need to, or punish you for bathroom usage. If you have a medical condition that makes you go to the bathroom more often, and they fire you for it, that is "medical condition discrimination." Even if it's normal for you to go a lot, it's still wrong of them to investigate you for it.

And yes, management DOES have to be specific when claiming "erratic behavior". Their failure to give a reason would make even a two-bit lawyer call "BULLSHIT!"

Oftentimes, if management says they don't have to give you a reason for some type of personnel action, THERE IS NO REASON. They just want to mess up your life. Get yourself a lawyer, and they'll scare these assholes into submission. Nowadays, if you even threaten to sue, they'll give you what's rightfully yours, most of the time. It's just a matter of being able to afford an attorney, though.

Can you please tell me what PTF stands for?
I am not a postal worker, but I received an investigative request for someone applying to be a PTF Carrier. I just want to have some background.

If you could just tell me, my email is ericacrowe@cox.net. Sorry if this is s stupid question! :)

Thanks,

Why couldn't you just ask them? it stands for Part Time Flexible. No regular hours, no fixed schedule, not guaranteed 40 hours a week. It's how all clerks, city carriers, mailhandlers start.

Hello fellow employees!!

THE MAIN REASON I SUBMITTED THIS MESSAGE IS BECAUSE I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE 710 TESTING FOR THE DCO EXAMS AS EVERYONE KNOWS PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT BUT CMON HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO MEMORIZE ALL THIS INFO AND RETAIN IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH 29 TESTS!!! I'M STUCK ON "INWARD CODING-STREET ADDRESSES" IF ANYONE HAS SOME TRICKS OR ANY EASIER WAY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND AND REMEMBER ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THIS JOB I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS THE BEST JOB I'VE EVER HAD THE CHANCE TO GRAB AND I WAITED A MONTH JUST FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO TRAINING. PLEASE PLEASE!!!! ANYONE HELP ME OUT I HAVE 4 MORE DAYS TO FINISH ALL THE TESTING SO I'M PRETTY MUCH LOOKING FOR A MIRACLE!!!

         THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
                DANIEL
EMAIL ME PLEASE FELLOW USPS EMPLOYEES AND LET ME KNOW ANY SHORTCUTS OR EASIER WAYS TO REMEMBER THE PROCESS OF THE TESTS EMAIL : daniel84@sbcglobal.net

P.S. I heard that the trainers help out if they believe your not going to pass the testing in time??? Is this true I'm so worried about losing this job, I need it to pay off Student Loans and finish my degree in "Information Security" Computer Field.

Daniel, 136-- the first help I will give you is the suggestion to not type in ALL CAPITALS. It is considered to be rude.

I am looking for an old friend that I used work at the PO with in Houston GPO from 77 to 80. Her name is Sharon Lynn Jones. My name is Michael Johnson. She still works for the PO. I am a Dallas Fireman. My email address is mmfj27@yahoo.com .....Can anyone help me?

 I have been looking for an old and dear friend that is a USPS employee. His name is Gary Pattee,and he works in San Diego county. If anyone knows him-please relay the message that I have been attempting to reach him for several years, to no avail. To please contact me, Charles Shields at trilobitia@yahoo.com.
Thank you all...

I took the RCA exam on Monday and the person giving the exam said that the procedure has now changed. Instead of your name going on the roster for your choice of 3 cities, you are now eligible for almost anywhere. I'm supposed to be able to log on to the USPS website and the openings will be posted there. I then fill out an application for the job and wait to be contacted for an interview. Did I understand this correctly?? Are you still automatically hired according to exam score etc or does the person interviewing have the final say.(like in corporate america)
If any of you know about this could you please let me know. Also when is this posted?? I checked today and I could not find anything new......thanks

Do anyone know a female Postal employee name Dana Stokes. I was in Postal Management class with her in Santa Ana during the 90's. She was a supervisor trainee at the time. Her work assignment was in Orange County California.

If you know her could you ask her to email me at:
wscott2803@comcast.net

Thanks

Scott

COLCPE!!! My name is Melissa and I have an awesome fundraiser going on for COLCPE. I found a product that every postal employee would love to have. It is a mini toy LLV. It is 6 1/2" and the side doors and reat hatch all open up. $5.00 from every sale is being donated to COLCPE. If you are interested in getting an order form or want more information you can email me at Melissa_gonzalez32@hotmail.com Also looking for people to post in their breakroom or maybe attach an order form to your Monthly newsletter. Thanks

Marchelle: What a nightmare! Contact EEO AGAIN -- file another complaint for 'retaliation for prior EEO activity.' USPS EEO's job is to find in favor of mgmt., but sounds like you've got nothing to lose at this point. My guess is you're smart, attractive and more educated than the mgmt. at your place -- nothing irritates them more.

What the Hell is COLCPE?........anyone

It is the NALCs political lobbying effort. Since union dues can't be used for political purposes we band together and the union collects donations to pay for it.

A Battery Recharge
New employee selection targets today’s USPS needs

You asked for it, you got it.

 Based on extensive research and input from a wide range of employees and managers, USPS is changing how it selects new employees. The new selection process — including the new Battery 473 exam — debuts in seven pilot sites across the country this month and represents a major shift in entry-level hiring.

New tools have been designed to provide a thorough, fair assessment of the skills and abilities the Postal Service needs to succeed. These tools provide more information to potential applicants up front so they can decide if the job is right for them.

In addition, Battery 473 combines measures of familiar favorites such as address checking, and coding and memory, with measures of other job-related behaviors such as identifying information needed to complete forms and demonstrating service orientation, conscientiousness and interpersonal skills.

The process initially will be used for the five most populous entry-level positions — city carrier, mail handler, mail processing clerk, sales and services associate and sales, services and distribution associate.

“We’ve transformed our technology, our focus on performance and our customer service,” said Selection, Evaluation and Recognition Manager Susan LaChance. “Now we want to hire employees who best fit those ideals — safety-oriented, customer-focused employees with solid work ethics.”

The Battery 473 exam begins its rollout to the field next month. By July 2005, all offices will have offered the new exam. Existing registers can be used until the new exam is given for a facility — after that, all new hires must come from a Battery 473 register.

I had a book to study for the 470 exam, is there one for the 473 ?

I don't think there is one yet. The guy that normally comes out with these type of books first has to take the test, and see how different it is before he can come out with pointers. It's only being offered in certain areas of America right now.

I hear another book about the Postal Service is coming out. A friend of mine who works in Phoenix says a co-worker a clerk at another facility wrote the book. He doesn't know the clerks name but the book getting close to publication. Has anyone heard this?

Good idea mailchick!! Problem is, where I work at, most of the guys would probably put them in the driveway and run over them.

Is anyone rec. their earning statements late? I used to get it Tues, Weds or Thurs. Now, If I'm lucky I get it by Friday.Most times on Sat. or later.Who do you complain too? Please don't say my HR dept.Useless at best.

This Is Some Place.....I've been working at the P.O. since August and this is the first time I haven't received my paystub by Friday. I wonder if the snowstorm had anything to do with it. One time I got it on Thursday, but all other times on Friday.

This is some place /m151 - what is the complaint? There is no legal requirement to supply any statement at all, just the year-end W-2.

Hi! I am a newbie here and would appreciate some advice. I just retired from the Army as a 50% disabled vet and am scheduled to take the new 473 on Tuesday....which is waaaayyy different from the 470. But I digress...providing I pass the test and am eventually hired, would someone please tell me how my 20 years of federal active service is applied toward my postal career (steps, leave, etc..). My sister has been a rural carrier for 17 yrs now and I have always enjoyed living vicariously through her and the USPS life.

 Thanks!

Terry (Bassdiesel) Ford
Fayetteville, NC

I was injured on the job back in September 2004. I did not go to my own doctor. Now January 2005 injury comp is denying my claim saying I did not turn in any paper work. Manager did not give me a ca-16 or a ca-17. I did get a copy of the ca-1. I am still injured and management is saying that I must go back to full duty cuase injury comp is saying I am no longer injured. Should I go to my own doctor at this point?

Bassdiesel Can you elaborate on how the 473 is different than the 470 please.....They haven't started giving it in the south yet but wre've all been wondering.

Thanks
RCA in Ar

473.

According to the Applicant Information Package I got, there are five parts to the test.
Test Part: Number of Time
                             Items: Allowed:

1. Address Checking 60 11 mins.
2. Forms Completion 30 15 mins.
3. Coding 36 6 mins.
4. Coding (Memory) 36 7 mins.
5. Personal Characteristics 236 90 mins.
 and experience Inventory

The address checking (comparison) is different than the 470. Instead of determining alike or different, you have to chose A. No Errors B. Address only C. Zip code only or D. Both.

Hope this helps to inform everyone.

Terry

OK, this message board did not keep my spacings..

the first number is the number of questions...the second is the number of minutes....

Terry

Thanks Terry, I wonder what coding is ? Any thoughts ?

This test worries me a little. I think its suppose to be given down here in the Spring.

Lots of luck to you Terry !

Never mind Terry, I found the sample page at USPS site.

Still LOL

OK...I took the test yesterday...they said they had 500 in the morning and 500+ in the afternoon. The exam in general was not as difficult as I had imagined. I finished everything with enough time to go back and check most of my answers...although some of the folks at my table did not finish, so this is only my perspective.

 All of the parts were reasonable...with enough time to commit to memmory on the coding because you use the same coding table for the coding and the memory. I really don't know how they will derive a raw score from the Personality Charachteristics...some of the questions seemed vague or opinionated.

 All in all, I felt that I did very well...this is a well rounded test...MUCH better (read easier) than the 470.


Terry

Terry

I'm a regular letter carrier in st pete florida and my brother is a casual here. He was told that he'll be taking the 473 exam sometime in February. Can you tell me which website you went too to find some sample questions of the battery 473 exam.

Thanks
Cathy

Sure, I'll be happy to......as soon as I find it again. I think I put it on my favorites...BRB...

OK I'm back, just go to the regular usps website. usps.com
go to the search space, enter Publication 60A then do the search, it will come up. LOL
 
Terry, I agree with you, I just don't know how they will score the personality part. must be so many pts. for answer a. so many for answer b. etc... I can't figure it out either. Let us know how you did......LOL

Any keys that anyone can give me to help in the memorization and coding??? I am taking the test in a little while but have been studying the old exam, not the new one.

REPLY ON 166 MESSAGE
THE BEST WAY TO MEMORY THE CODE IS TO ORGANIZE YOUR MIND.
MINIMIZE THE NUMBERS AND PUT THEM TO THE GROUP YOU SET.
YOU BETTER PAY TO DOWNLOAD THE TEST 473 FROM POST OFFICE
TO STUDY BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT TEST FROM THE OLD ONE.
GOOD LUCK

Thank you for your suggestion. How could I download the test 473 from postal office?


Thanks,
Lisa Ma

Hi Weili8096

I sent you - through email - a copy of the battery test 473 with sample questions, etc. If you don't get it let me know.

Cathy

Stpetemailgurl@yahoo.com

I'am in North GA tring to find out when clerks test will be given, desp to get off road and transfer.

 Hi Im Tom Wakefield at PostalMag.com the leading Postal information website! This site is a just bad spinoff of my award winning site, it's strictly amatuer night over here! But I guess the greatest form of flattery is imitation no matter how tacky and tasteless it is! And that sad little troll Rick Owen certainly is just that! when you done with this pretender , come back to the #1 website for Postal issues PostalMag.com!

This message is to all posters at PEN

Thank you for your continued support, your postings at PEN, and for your understanding.

The person who is posting all of the derogatory and insulting remarks under false names is attempting to downgrade our forums - insult each of you - insult me - and generally disrupt conversations here at PEN.

This persons IP address is 66.53.62.85 - along with various other IP addresses. I have banned this IP address as well as several others that he uses, but he keeps coming back. I have contacted the owner of Quick Topic (Steve Yost) and asked for his assistance, but I do not believe he can do anything about it - hopefully I am wrong.

Each person who uses a computer has an IP address issued from their internet service provider. I can ban their IP address here, but they can request a new IP address from their service provider...so, the cycle is almost endless.

I apologize to you. Please know that I am doing everything that I can to keep our boards clean. It may help if you would scroll to the bottom of each forum page at PEN, click on the contact us link, and send a request to Steve Yost to stop this person from posting at our forums. The additional attention may give Mr. Yost the push to do something about this.

KNOW THIS PLEASE
I DO NOT post at other postal site forums. I do not visit other postal sites. I have always dedicated myself to PEN and that is the way it will remain.

I gave my friend VetCarrier admin rights to this board. I would be more than willing to provide others the same rights at other PEN forums if you will contact me. I need assistance at each of our forums in an effort NOT to censure, but to keep our forums clean, on topic, and helpful.

Please bear with us as we attempt to solve this problem.

Rick Owens - PEN
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It must be AJ in the USPS Public Affairs trying to cover up the truth about how employees are treated by postal mis-mgt. Going Postal is what happens when a employee has been pushed to the limits by the Plotter Group. AJ should quit I wonder if he can sllep at night with all the lies he puts out. Going Postal is a fact live with it J or quit treating ceaft employee like they are worthless. You guys screwed me and my family THANKS and then told me I have an attitude problem.

My great grandfather worked in the post office in new york city in the early 1900's. His was known as james palma. We believe his name was changed from vincent scaramell or scaramellino. Is it possible to get a list of postal employees from that time period? Please reply to spalmer@ptd.net

Postal Authority plans 5-day week
The Ministry of Communications opposes the measures, saying they will detract from service to the public.
Guy Hadass 6 Apr 05 19:19
The budget of the Israel Postal Authority indicates that it is planning to cut mail distribution to five days a week, instead of the present six days.

Sources inform "Globes" that Sunday will probably be the day cut, which will make it possible to close mail sorting facilities on Saturday night. The Postal Authority estimates that this will save NIS 15 million a year.

The Post Authority is also planning open its branches five days a week, instead of six. Each branch will be closed on a different day, in order to ensure that some branches will always remain open in a given area.

The Ministry of Communications opposes the changes, claiming that they will detract from service to the public, and has not approved them.

We appreciate everyones participation in this forum. However, this board is for postal employees to help other postal employees with postal issues....only.

Please help us keep this a postal info/help forum.

Thank You,

Rick Owens
PEN

I am a mass. attorney who represents postal workers in EEO cases. Did you lose your case at hearing? The usps attorneys went in, week before the hearing, questioned and intimidated my witnesses. I have excellent documentation, including a letter from the attorney stating that NE area attorneys do this in every case that comes to hearing. But, apparently, they haven't got caught before. Witness tampering is grounds to reopen your case.

Want documentation? call 1-413-732-0320. EEO cases are hard enough to win without having to deal with crooked usps attorneys and witness intimidation.

Dear rick, I see your point but every usps ee who has filed an eeo case at hearing and lost needs to know this. These sorts of cases affect proples jobs and lives, and as the result of this unfair practice, they are really being hurt.

Help them fight back and get a fair chance. Thanks.

Edited by author 07-09-2005 08:06 AM
/m179

Dear M.A.,

Perhaps you don't understand that the majority of us are interested in POSTAL issues. We all can read the yellow pages in the event we need representation. Personally, I'll get a lawyer in my state versus someone from out of state. I also question how good a professional is when they come to forums such as these and advertise their snake oil.

To All:
If you cannot access PEN, or if the site is not updated over the next few days, please understand that we're only 150 miles from the Gulf of Mexico and they're expecting Dennis to hit us with strong winds and rain. We may lose power and that will affect our management of PEN. THANKS!

WHAT DOES THE 238 DRIVING EXAM CONSIST OF ANY ONE KNOW

A couple of months ago there was an article on the home page of PEN about a former postal employee who represents postal employees on eeo cases. I'm sure the author of that article (who is an atty) will not give me the name of that person. Do any of you know who he is? He's not an atty and he has never lost a case. I tried emailing PEN but my email was not delivered. This article is dated June 2005 in the archives..............

Does anyone have any information that the Office Of Inspector General (OIG) is taking over the Postal Inspection Service? I heard that the OIG already is doing all of the audit and internal crimes work. Also, is the Postal Service getting rid of the uniform postal police officer. I understand they were 2700 strong and now there are less than 800 left in the USA. So much for homeland security!!!!

Rick, are you in danger from Katrina? Hope all is well.

^*^*^ - Katrina is passing us this evening sometimes. So far nothing has happend much. Strong wind gust and rain but nothing special - hopefully it will stay that way. Thank you for asking.

Rick
PEN

Edited by author 09-07-2005 11:52 PM
If one does not have sufficient annual leave balance do they take it out of sick leave?

WANELISE THE 238 EXAM CONSIST OF DRIVING AROUND THE BLOCK TO OBTAIN YOUR LISCENSE. OH YOULL BE IN A CARRIER TRUCK.

HAMO /m188 -- no, it becomes LWOP.

Thanks egark just needed to know. Oh also does anyone know how long it takes for feedback on a 991?

I would like to ask a question. Is there a site that has all federal positions and the routes to achieve those positions? There are probably hundreds of job titles I would like to see the opportunities eligible to me. Thanks in advance

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babygirl 967
 
10-01-2005 11:53 AM ET (US)
 Due to Hurricane Rita I was unable to make it to my exams. I am trying to find out if they will reschedule. Does any one know who I need to contact and have a number in Texas?
Your help would be greatly appreciated,Thanks

Hi i would like to let you all know of a new global site for postal workers

www.yorsay.co.uk

that website was really a waste of time

jamo, i believe lwop in lieu of al must be approved in advance. you should check.

HandlingIt /m196 -- if you have approved A/L but run out of A/L then it is automatically changed to LWOP. It WAS approved in advance when the A/L was approved.

i must have misunderstood. i remember a clerk in our office wanting some time off in november, but was our of AL, so asked for LWOP, and was turned down. that is why i said i thought it must be approved. so they meant they had AL on the books, but not enough to cover? now i understand. so sorry...

Thought those affected might be interested:

from NAPUS Nov. 9, 2005:
The Postal Service has received authority from the Office of Personnel Management to offer Voluntary Early Retirements (VER) to postal employees (including Postmasters) in areas that were severely impacted by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. The USPS will determine who will be offered VER’s in the storm torn areas of AL, LA, MS, and Houston. Additional information on the VER will be provided as soon as it becomes available.

See PEN's homepage: http://www.postalemployeenetwork.com/

Rick Owens
PEN
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Handling It /m198 -- you got it now. And don't apologize for not knowing something. With all the foot thick manuals, nobody knows everything.

Yeah this new amp study is really putting a damper on our employees. We are constantly in the local papers, and all the state reps and city council officials deny the consolidation.Still, with my understanding if its federal the state has no say as to losing our city postmark and the consolidation of our plant. This move will affect 200+ employees. Our facility is out of Lacrosse WI, and the study wants to consolidate with Rochester MN. A plant smaller than ours and an hour and a half away. Our postmaster is so shady, he's leaving for south sakota on the 21st. The plant is practically ran on employees now. We dont even have a supervisor for our shift, no 204B. Everybody is calling in sick. Hell who's going to report the sick calls. We are in dire need here. I know everybody has there own issues, but hey thats what we are on this site for right? Whadda you think?

Sorry Dakota not Sakota

I am a MPE in Memphis and have been a Mailhandler before then. My question is will the Postal Service ever decide what to do with the LA/MS 3rd and 4th class mail of the cities that was affected by Katrina? We have mail of this sort all over the place and I think it is now becoming a safety problem.

JAMO, What are you hearing on your AMP study? I'm at Twin Falls,Idaho and we are same list as Lacrosse. We have not heard a thing but think it is a done deal. Boise is 2 hrs & 120 miles away for us. Almost the same here on employess & supervisor.

ROCKY I JUST KNOW AS OF TODAY THE AMP SURVEY WAS ALREADY CONDUCTED, BUT AS FAR AS MAIL CONSOLIDATION WE ARE ALL CLUELESS AT THIS POINT. MANAGEMENT KEEPS STATING, IF THEY KNOW SOMETHING WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING. WE DONT EVEN HAVE ANYONE TO 204B RIGHT NOW. THE PM IS GONE ON THE 19TH, AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THE MANAGEMENT HERE IS @#$%.I'D GET INTO DETAIL'S ABOUT MY RECENT DENIAL OF MY 3971 AND EVERYONE ELSES APPROVAL FOR LAST FRIDAY, BUT I'D TAKE UP THE WHOLE FORUM. OUR STATE REP COMMENTED THAT THE OSHKOSH ANNEX INTO GREENBAY IS NOT HAPPENING. AS FAR AS OUR LACROSSE HEAD, I DONT KNOW YET. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THOUGH.

Eugene, for the third class mail they might even consider an AMP done there. Dont feel bad we have cabelas and walmarts coming out of our ass down here. Oh, today I saw a magazine that had an article on getting nose hairs out without flinching. We need to stop the 3rd class madness. People still read that inquirer crap and how to bathe E.T. junk. Oh on your question keep filling out 1767's someone will get tstirred up on the matter.

If an RCA takes and passes the career exam and a career opening becomes available in his/her office can they be considered for the job or do they have to wait for their score to come up on the register?

rungirl77 /m207

If common sense counts, I would think you must wait your turn on the register but we know that common sense and the PO don't mix just like oil and vinegar. Have you looked at the employment and placement handbook EL-312?

http://www.usps.com/publications/handbooks/welcome.htm

An RCA would have already had to pass the career exam to become an RCA. Not sure what you are asking here.

...to answer an earlier question I am an RCA asking about the 473 battery exam for clerks,carriers. etc.

Have to wait for score to come up on the register.

Anyone know any doctors with feca owcp experience in the NYC area? My arm hurts like hell.. Thanks

You might better ask on the Injured board:
 http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/v6PYTS9Wyhhf2

Are there any openings for a automotive technician in the good old USA? Please post here, with info. Thanks..

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how do you memorize the lists of addresses for the Rural Carrier 460 exam? how did some of you do it?

To All For some reason Quick Topic has reduced all of PEN's forums back to a non-paid standard board. PEN paid our yearly fee on June 30,2006 - days before payment was due. I have written Quick Topic twice for an explanation - but, no answer.

I will continue working on this problem. Sorry.

Rick Owens - PEN
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I need to know what to do to solve this problem, Been working for the usps for close to five years, for the first year I got NO sunday premium at all. For the secon and third year I did. Please don't tell me go to the supervisor, he's way way too stupid and a liar. I need to go above his head due to his incompetence. Can I report it to the DOL wage and hour division? Please help, Thanks

Tell your union steward.

I paid to park while serving as a juror for jury duty. Does the USPS reimburse for this expense? If so, where can I find the regulatory guidance? I've heard that it is - but when I asked my supervisor she said, "I don't think so...I think at one time we did, but not anymore." Those definitive responses are so reassuring!

tired of it /m218 -- you need to file grievance with 14 days of the occurance of the infraction. Seems to me you are about 4 years late. What were you waiting for?

Hello,

I am interested in donating a kidney if there is someone who needs one. I don't have enough sick leave to cover all of the time off I might need.
I live in Arizona.

Jean

Can a Limited Duty employee work a second job? If so, please site manual, feca, usc, el505 etc.

Can a Limited Duty employee change schedule to another tour? If so, please site manual, feca, usc, el505 etc.

If a person makes 42000 and goes on disability retirement, how much they would collact per month. Thanks

There is a major upset in balance going on in the SouthWest Area due to DBCS Automation, particularly in my office. Recently, our DBCS Operators were informed of a new transformation with data collected from these machines via a new Windows program disseminating information. Supervisors in our office are monitoring all Jams, E-Stops, and Out-of-Sequence Errors. They are even stressing the practice of enforcing Discipline ( yes.........Discipline)if data from this program deems an operator responsible for going in excess of any of these three shortcomings. My supervisor told us that this approach to reprimand machine operators is part of a nationwide agenda. Can management actually reprimand or discipline a DBCS Machine operator for having too many jams or Out-of-Sequence mistakes?..............if not............Why are they doing it in my office?......................What should I do about it?

WOW........I NEVER HEARD OF THAT HAPPENING HERE.........YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT ONE.

weeeeell there was this video that was shown to us(DBCS clerks)that was giving 'expectations' and a sort of 'how to' representation of the proper operation of a DBCS machine. The stupervisor did say that eventually we (all clerks) would be evaluated on their performance. I really havn't heard much more or any updates....oh there were a few differences in the video and how actual work gets done, 1. it was stated in the video that 2nd pass stacks of mail, you know the piles made on the rollers? we are only allowed to stack the mail TWO trays high. There are only two people to a machine and sometimes there would be only one. Oh yeah definitely speak with you shop steward or president of your union. good luck

I need help from my postal family. I am a Window clerk in Knoxville, TN and I am one of 50 finalists in the elect the Mayor of Goody’s Country contest at www.goodyspowder.com. Click on the race car, then click "Meet the canidates", then click "A-D", then please vote everyday to elect me, James B, to be the Mayor of Goody’s Country. Help make a postal Employee Mayor of Good's Country.
Thanks for your support!

JURY DUTY.....You do NOT get reimbursed for parking. However if you should be paid 8 hours for the day as long as you bring in proof that you attended jury duty and any fees that the court paid you.

I am a t-6 at the cape canaveral post office.I will be going to the buddy in roswell new mexico on the 7th of october in support of my grand daughter kayla helferich who has down syndrome.If anyone would like to make a donation or just say a prayer,please visit my daughters blog site http://mdbeau.blogspot.com.On the right side under blogs,click on buddy walk and it will give you all the information you need.Thank you very much.

Greetings: Any of you who have LEGITIMATE FECA NEEDS can join us on the Injured Employee Forum. If you have been injured on the job, you should investigate the best Entitlement Afforded to Injured Postal Employees and protect yourself.
The FECA Entitlement will insure that should you become Legitimately Injured on the Job, that all of your Medical Needs will be met and your concerns about continued Compensation will be taken care of.

Hope to hear from you if you have the need.

DIRTYDAVE

has anyone else had their hours changed so as to avoid being paid double sunday premium? Our union has not helped us at all here and I would like to know what others have done to get the unions attention or get their hours back to normal. All of us in maintenance that were affected are veterans also. If you have a phone number to a good union rep. I would appreciate that too. I don't talk to ours.

Tino-
I think you might be a spamming troll as opposed to a former Postal Employee- Which district did you work in?

Correct, mysterio. S/he posted this is several postal forums. Was deleted from others

Happy New Year to Everyone!

I have installed new forums at PEN for everyone to utilize. I respectfully request that you at least try them out. You may find our new forums here:

http://www.postalemployeenetwork.com/phpforum/index.php

Why new forums? simply because PEN does not own our current forums - they are owned by Quick Topic. This limits our ability to manage the forums - not only that, but we must pay Quick Topic for use of these forums. We own our new forums. Please give them a try. In the near future we may cease using Quick Topic forums altogether.

THANKS!
Rick Owens
Postal Employee Network

/m220 HAHAHA that is a good one!!!

Need everyone's help immediately:
Case: Letter of Revoking of Driving Privileges then, a Letter of Removal for May 5th.

Had a rollaway/runaway last August which was reduced to 14 day working suspension.

Any help is appreciated if at all.

Thanks in advance.

/m236 good on too!!

Background: I tested in 1995 (as a recent 5pt vet), hired and worked for the USPS from 1995 to late 2006 when I resigned on good terms. Now, I want back in and I have my old PM and Supvs who want me back.
The problem seems to be the question of whether or not my old test scores from 470 expired and do I need to take the new 473 test? If I do, can I be given any special consideration to test with the recent vets or do I have to wait for public testing? Thanks.

You have to re-test. USPS does not maintain test scores for that long of a period. Nor do they keep you on a possible hiring register over a couple of years..

And that "recent vet" thing is only good for a short period of time when you first get out of the servide.

/m242 I don't understand.He is a vet,a 5point one at that.He should be moved to the top of the list,shouldn't he?.

I was responding to /m240 where Jack said: If I do, can I be given any special consideration to test with the recent vets or do I have to wait for public testing? If his old scores are not still good (and they may be, I don't know) unless Jack is a recent vet (within a few months) he has to wait for public testing.

any employee can ask for a re-instatement! if it is within three years of leaving. I have never heard you have to re-take a test. just write a letter to the postmaster of the office you want to work, send a copy to the district manager. you will hear one way or another. but you had better have left in good terms.

Hi,

I thought this blog entry on the USPS finances might be interesting

http://blog.thebudgetgraph.com/2007/09/06/...the-postal-service/

Jess DB /m246 -- Interesting. The average USPS employee makes $20/hour while the average UPS employee makes $17/hour. Since letter carriers make less than UPS drivers, we must conclude that UPS non-drivers, their equivalent to our clerks, make a lot less than postal clerks.

read through the following on overtime scheduling.

I am confused now. what is the correct procedure?


Sunnyvale St said...
I am glad that we have the new shop stewards on tour 3 because they give us education into how the overtime is supposed to work.

Estter says that you must be available on Wednesday of the week before your supervisor needs to call overttime. If you call in sick on Wednesday, than you are not available to overtime during the next week, because they already figured out who was going to get the overtime and its too late to change the schedule.

See? We never knew that. And our old stewards were wrong when they said that overtime can be called on you last minute. No it can't. Not if you were off the Wednesday before.

Thanks you to Rick and Will for being better teachers to our new stewards, so we will all someday know the rules as good as you do.

This blog has got it all wrong. Rick and Will are the best. ALl you have to do is ask Ester questions she knows all the answers already! And I am happy that I will always get the overtime and not my co-worker who has tue/Wed off. She is never here on wednesday, and that makes her not available to overtime for the next week. That means more ot for me. Thank you Rick and Will and Ester!

I just left this message on www.21cpw.com in the General Union Business. I do not know how long it will stay up on this website. So I am also posting it here

festusw@yahoo.com
San Diego Local 197
Member only
- Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 10:51:10 (PDT)

I would like to apologize to Frank and Randy for the actions of a few individuals in our local. Because, of an idividual actions who attacked my posting. My original posting was removed. About 1 week ago, I posted here the below written message. I was only just asking for information from other Union members so I could see if I was correct in my understanding of this article that was written in our local newsletter.


Hello Everyone,

I am a member of San Diego Local 197. Two days ago, I just recieved my my Local's Newsletter "the Potpourri". Inside this issue beginning with the cover page were the normal items that I had seen in earlier issues. But beginning on page 10 of this issue I began to get disturbed while reading on article by Chief Shop Steward Will Tagart. The reason I was getting disturbed was this Chief Shop Steward was attacking fellow Union Members. One Union member he was attacking was the former Vice President of our Local 197 who had resigned do to disagreeing with our current Local President. The other member the Chief Shop Steward is attacking in the article is the current Asst. Clerk Craft Director Tammy Yorsch. This verbal attack goes on for three pages and is then followed by twenty one pages of documents that the Chief Shop Steward says supports his accusations.

I have taken the time to scan the complete issue of our Local's newsletter into JPEG's. I am willing to send this to anyone who would care to see what is currently being pushed onto the members of this local. If someone out there can look this over for I believe that there is something fundementally wrong with what has happened. Please let me know if I am right concerning this? If so what can either I or someone at National do about this abuse?

Thank you,

Marion Williams


So Randy and Frank keep up the good work on this website for I have gotten good information from it in the past and look forward to reviewing it later.

Thank you,

Marion F. Williams

DID YOU KNOW:

*That your Union is keeping track of everything you do and say.

*That your Union is monitoring your internet activity.

*That your Union believes you must keep your opinions to yourself at all times, not just at work or at Union functions but even in the privacy of your own home.

*That you are not permitted to state your own opinion at ANY TIME during your life as a union member, unless the opinion is shared by Will Tagart, Rick Cornelius, and Associates.

(Note: Will Tagart, Rick Cornelius, and Associates remain free to state their opinions, even if you do not agree with theirs)

*That if Tagart or Cornelius merely SUSPECT you of saying something they don't like at any time, or commenting on ANY internet site, this constitutes a violation of your Local's new rules and you will be punished.

You heard me right. No proof is required, other than the paranoid belief of Tagart and Cornelius. If they think it is so, it is.

If you do not comply with the San Diego Area Local's newly instituted rules against free speech and freedom to state an opinion while away from the worksite, or if you are merely suspected of not being in compliance with the Local's new rules, Mr. Tagart will be paying you a little visit in the form of formal charges.

Just a warning, for everyone going to today's meeting. Unless you wish to lavish praise on your President and his Associates, you may wish to keep your opinions to yourself. If you say or do anything at the meeting today that hurts Tagart's tender feelings, or disturbs the insensibilities of Cornelius and his Associates, a charge will be filed against you by Mr Tagart.

Consider yourself warned from someone who at this moment is being punished for ANONYMOUS comments made to this blogsite.

I believe I am the first to go on the chopping block, and your head could be next, if you draw the attention of the regime. If Tagart and Cornelius THINK you share opinions that don't agree with their own, you will be facing a trial board in the near future.

I will soon share more about Tagart's charge against me, which is scheduled to go to Trial on October 5, 2007.

Hi-Not sure where to post this but has anyone heard that the ST. Petersburg Fl plant will be closing and some employees moved to Ft. Meyers, Fl. P & DC?
Thanks for any help...

In case anyone is thinking of transferring to Maintenance craft, THINK IT THROUGH first! I moved to a Level 3 custodian after 19 yrs. as a clerk, now have 22 yrs. total. Did you know that you can only take exams for Maint. jobs if there actually is that position in your local office? That if you take exams as "in-service" rather than "in-craft" you get no results except "Qualified" or "not qualified"? That when you do take an exam, your USPS seniority only counts when compared within a 5-point bracket of test scores? That there is no place where available jobs are posted until you're lucky enough to get a job offer letter? I'm in an 11-week Maintenance Skills Development Program, and now find that the only way I can take exams in-craft (that is, the ones with highest chance of getting jobs)is to transfer to a largest office miles away, probably on Tour 1, with crummy hours & days off. This whole deal is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, and APWU isn't doing anything for me.

wjoerob, this is set up so we do not have people come to maintenance from another craft and have more seniorty then us already in maintenance.

What if a Post Master lied about having a Master's Degree from an approved educational institution and doesn't. Should she be allowed to stay in the position.

Edited by author 10-11-2007 11:08 PM
management does what ever it wants! Degrees do not matter!

She will probably get a big promotion!

would someone out there know a person by the name of TOM CAST who works for the post office in colorado or chicago or maybe elsewhere...i think he has just retired..would love to get a hold of him... send me info by email to philou67@videotron.ca....i think he worked in the repair parcel department..i am not sure..very important...

stevie jay thats what you consider perjury. File an eeo and have a specialist take it from there. After mediation of coarse. If they say the time frame is alte tell them that the problem is still live, and persists as we speak.

/m254 Good luck getting rid of an EAS employee that has lied- its practically in the job description. If she lied to her boss (about her education) then it would be up to him to deal with it. Perhaps you workers are the only ones she's lied to- maybe the higher ups already know.

What is the difference between becoming a 204b and going through the Associate Supervisor Program, and how long do you have to be on the rolls before you can apply to do either??

/m260 204B is like on-the-job training for supervisor, you just start wearing a tie and doing the work while simultaneously being taught the job by your supervisor co-workers. ASP is a 16 week classroom & OJT program that teaches you how to be a supervisor. When you graduate from ASP you become an EAS employee and placed in the lowest currently available supervisory slot, up to & including night shift at the processing plant. We had a PTF with less than 3 months on the job go to ASP and he is now a supervisor. He is also the one who works the crappiest hours (staying until the last carrier returns) and often takes late outgoing mail to the plant in his POV. Just a heads-up. If you have civilian mgt experience they will want you for mgt.

thanks for the info!

I received an interview appt for sales, svcs/distribution assoc. ptf career position. Anyone have any info about this position, type of hours, shift, job duties? Thank you.

when you go to the post office and buy stamps from a person they are called "sales, svcs/distribution assoc". if you are going to work in any office that is NOT a plant you will have mostly day time hours. 4am to 6 or 7 pm.

official duties.
"Performs distribution and a variety of tasks to support sales of products and services. Maintains professional and effective public relations with customers and others requiring familiarity with postal laws, regulations, and current procedures."

will learn a scheme. pay grade is 5. which will go to 6 in feb 08.

go here and look around more info.http://www.apwu.org/index2.htm

/m268 - Good point - you are correct. I did not post the link to the news source until after midnight on 1.22.08. I am deleting my message and posting a link to this stories news source. Thanks.

New USPS executives pay raises. Check it out here:

http://www.postcom.org/public/2008/Article%20from%20Linns.txt

I am currently a PTF mail handler and am considering a craft change to city carrier. Could someone please tell me the steps I need to take to do this.

Thank you

the post offcie is not hiring carriers at this time.

but call shared services for information.

A couple of quick questions. I've worked as a casual for the past few years, took the 473 exam and got called in for an interview. This is for a sales, serv. and distribution associate position. I did the interview and they sent me for a drug screen. This 5 weeks ago. I still haven't heard anything further.

1) Approx. how long does the hiring process take when going from casual to career?
2)If they contact me for further processing, etc. do they usually do that via letter or phone?
3) If I don't get the position, will they send me a notice stating so?

Thanks in advance, there are lots of very helpful people on this forum and we appreciate your help!

Edited by author 03-17-2008 05:32 PM
William,

The hiring process can vary. It could take up to 2 months or so depending on how many channels they have to go through. Even though you're a casual, going from that to a career position is still a long process. Basically, it will be the same as if they are hiring you as a civilian off the street.

They normally contact you through the mail. If you recall, when you started as a casual, you may have received a letter asking you to go in for the interview, then medical exam, orientation, etc.

If they don't hire you then yes, they are supposed to send you a letter explaining their decision and giving you the right to appeal within a certain time frame, usually 30 days.

I am currently a PTF clerk in a small level 16 office, I have been a clerk here for 2 years and have served as the OIC in this office for the last 6 months, we finally have a Postmaster she is from a level 11, does anyone have advice on what I can do to improve my chances of applying for and getting a postmaster job at a small office such as an 11, I want to get my foot in the door and be a postmaster.

apply to the ASP program. work on your 991.

Edited by author 04-06-2008 09:53 AM
No more 991's for EAS promotion. e-career is the only way! get to e-career from lite blue.

Edited by author 04-22-2008 10:59 PM
I'm looking into the Federal Long Term Care coverage offered to postal employees. I'm actually looking into this for my procrastinating father-in-law, at my wife's request.

I'm trying to determine if he would complete the full underwriting application or abbreviated underwriting application. He is not a new employee (if he was employeed with 60 days, he would use the abbr. appl), but I'm wondering if there is a annual enrollment period where during a brief window he could apply for coverage using the abbreviated application. Does anyone know?

I've looked all over the Fed LTC site and could not find the specific answer. My father-in-law is a great guy, but he doesn't understand the value of LTC. I was hoping to get answers to all questions he has and then my wife and I would have a sit down to encourage him to apply for coverage. Thanks

Try OPM.gov for longterm care info...Also, Federaltimes.com.

Hi All - Just wanted to let you know that I have posted the official USPS FAQ's regarding the VEr here:

http://www.postalemployeenetwork.com/2008-VER-FAQ.htm

Rick Owens - PEN

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Is there an Automated or Online method for Former USPS Employees to obtain "Employment References?, Pay History, Attendance, etc?"

Thanks

PROVIDE US WITH VEHCILES LIKE CITY CARRIERS! EMA doesnt cover maintance... We need RHD vans/jeeps postal service should be providing reguardless of "Tradition" the postal service should be eating these repair bills for running on there crappy roads...not the employees...

Hey RCANC....it does cover that....what do you think EMA stands for...equipment maintenance allowance...I think its the worse thing the PO can do is to give you guys vehicles...uts cheaper to pay EMA

Mark, I don't know what craft you are in, but you sound like management. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. "it does cover that" and "its cheaper to pay EMA". Which is it?

I'll tell you. EMA is at least half the amount it should be. It IS far cheaper for the PO, that's a fact. Some of us rurals are sick of subsidizing the PO.

I think they should take most of the vehicles away from city and put back relay boxes like they used to do. There is a ton of money being wasted cityside on vehicles. Lots of city folks DON'T NEED vehicles! The worst idea was putting vehicles on every city route to begin with!

RCANC,
I agree that rural carriers should be provided LLV'S like the City carriers have. But one has to consider work vs. work here vs. pay. RCA'S make what 1750+ an hour while a city PTF make 1950+ an hour. A city carrier works twice as hard and has to listen to managements BULLXXXX while the rural side hears jack. Its a hard call as far as being equal. I do think that USPS needs to provide equal health insurance for RCA's that work an average of 35+ hours a week over the year. I am not saying that you do not work hard at your job and do not deserve anything. I just know that the work itself is so much easier and so much less stress involved. I know because I was a RCA for years before going to the city side. If I would of known about all the crap, I would of stayed an RCA paying for repairs and waited to become regular. I used to love my job everday and now I dread it. None of it is fair, but you are paid very good by the hour for the work. Try walking around in 8 or 104 degrees a few miles a day and see what you feel then! An RCA has heat, air, music, time to enjoy their day. I would trade in a beat and buy my own insurance and pay for car.

Copy of email I sent to my congressional reps:

I oppose allowing the U.S. Postal Service to deliver mail only five days a
week because:

A five day week would mean the elimination of the utility position - the
carrier who does the route on the regular carrier's day off. That could
mean the layoffs of tens of thousands of carriers (perhaps 1/6 of 214,084
active duty letter carriers). The union contract stipulates carriers with
less than 6 years seniority can be furloughed. This whole idea needs to be
fought.

The more unemployed people there are, the longer the depression will last,
since even more people will be unable to buy goods and services.
Everything should be done to avoid layoffs.

If the Postal Service is to make it through this depression, than the
federal government will need to provide the necessary resources. Ditch all
the business plans - none of them are working. What did the Postal
Service do in the 1930's to make it through that crisis? The government
funded it even though it was losing money.

It's better to temporarily provide funding to labor-intensive industries
like the post office, instead of giving hundreds of billions to the
banking industry idiots who contributed to this crisis.

Sincerely,

Justifying jobs! Had a FULLY readable 15 minute 'training' on Dim/Weight pricing and Mystery Shoppers yesterday. Took 3 Financial experts to read it to us over the phone. Anyone else seeing this type of thing?

Yes.

Hey Iluvmail.... at the time of the post I just put a new Tranny in my jeep... I was very angry cause I maxed out a third credit card on repairs for my 2 vehicles. And shortly after came to the decision that I couldnt afford to pay the cards no more... Anywho since christmas Ive paid about 900$ in repairs for my vehicle and im even more bitter now then ever cause I had to borrow mony from my family to get my latest repairs... Just dont think its fair to have to be put into this financial stress to do work... I cant quit now Im the top sub in my office nor get a job in the area now cause i have bad credit due to repairs... EMA=crap give Rural carriers postal provided vehicles... Noone should have to deal with this to work part time....

RCANC,
  
     I agree they should pay more for mileage/repairs.....Hell, I'm right there with you on that one. Maybe you'd be better better off renting a used car like one girl didin our office for $20 a day. That way no repairs, insurance, just car and rental cost. I know how you feel about repairs, I had to chunk out $5,000 over a course of a year 1/2 to car repairs on a 2000 buick. I learned that an older buick....without all the computers were long lasting...if you can find one. I made the mistake of thinking a newer car would be better and last without repairs....wrong! I am a city carrier now and still driving the hunk of rural garbage...with even more things going wrong still now. I will finally have the thang paid off soon! I know the rural route screwed it up because the car was great! when I first started driving it.....I now have a list form a transmission to control arms to this and that ....that I have had to do. There is is still something not right about about it to this day....just waiting for it to blow up I guess with only 115,000 miles lol. I would find me a *cheap* older car that runs good and let it run its course....but check into the used car lots too! Just be careful of hitting or lets say tapping those mail boxes with it. I didn't even menyion the right side damage lol....needs dent man! I feel with you, trust me. I wish you luck when you go regular! Getting something out of USPS, health insurance, vacations, sick leave, tsp, hopefully, will make up for all the crap you has gone wrong! But, lets just be thankful for our jobs and try to LOVE it! If it makes you feel any better, I am on a route that I don't even get to drive.....leave with a bag and return with a bag...walk about 15 or more miles a day! Think about me during storms! Lord, I have to pray every day to make it through another. I have age on me, but I am in great shape....upside!!!! My heart rate and BP are all that of a 20 year old. Legs too!!!! lolol

Also about your credit cards....make sure that nothong is in your name ot they will issue judgements against.....then dont sign anything, or make a deal with them....dont pay, change your phone # send back letters they send....they have already messed your credit and will be off after 7 years of your last payment to them. Clarkhoward.com ..pull up a completely free no strings attached credit report(s) on yourself....check it out....after 3 years in NC you can start to get thing back in your name with now fear....but double check on that statue of limititaion fo credit cards. My friend not a USPS carrier had some problems and this is where I learned from.

FECA HELP/ QUICKTOPIC/FORUM

DIRTYDAVE

Dear Rural brothers,
     Depending on what part of the country you're in, you may not want to wish so hard for LLVs. As a vehicle to move you and the mail from point A to point B, it's adequate, but they were never designed with carrier comfort or safety in mind. When it was discovered that LLVs were too light in the rear end for winter weather, some genius(read mgmt.person) had cinder blocks bolted inside on top of the rear wheel wells. The heat blows in your face, so your feet freeze in winter, in summer, you broil, because there's no ventilation, even with both windows open. The mirrors block your vision. Also, knowing the Postal Service, rural routes would probably get city carrier hand me downs,(like the jeeps?), and you'd inherit the not so Long Life problems that come with them. But, as opposed to the maintenance situations you rurals have to deal with, I suppose a service maintained vehicle, even an LLV, is a better way to go. Since it seems to make sense, though, the Postal Service will never go for it
     Work Safe, John

Independent filmmaker and son of a postal worker seeking postal employees to share their experiences working for the U.S. Postal Service and their thoughts on the past, present, and future of their industry. If interested, please email Jay at usmaildoc@gmail.com. Thank You.

Here in western PA., a Supervisor got a grand idea. The fact that we transport some mail further to a 'sub' station of ours was a 'chance' to do some of the cutting Management likes. By getting us clerks to ignore the level line in filling up the cages to transport, we can effectively split a cage on top of three others. So the idea of cutting an extra trip from a carrier to shave moneys is gonna make up for the SAFETY VIOALTION being done? This is done daily, and today meant the difference of 8 spilling out cages versus 11 caged correctly. Go ahead and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and fill out the safety papers to send to District Safety?

GM's new buyout offer at a glance

General Motors Corp. said Tuesday it was offering buyouts to 74,000 U.S. hourly workers represented by the United Auto Workers. Here are some details:

What are workers being offered?
Retirement-eligible employees (30 years or more) will be offered $45,000 for production workers and $62,500 for skilled workers to retire with full pension and benefits. Employees can take the money in a lump-sum payment, have it paid over time in monthly installments or roll it directly into a retirement account or 401(k).

Workers close to retirement (between 26 and 29 years) can take a leave with reduced pay until they reach 30 years, when they will be eligible for regular pension and health benefits.

Employees who are at least 50 with 10 years at the company can retire early with accumulated pension and health benefits.

Workers with 10 or more years of service are eligible for a one-time payment of $140,000 to leave the company with no pension or health benefits. People with less than 10 years of service are eligible for a $70,000 payment.

    hello anyone know if they are taking transfers to charleston sc

Has anyone recieved your stimulus raise in your paycheck yet?

don't know about your check, but the way mine varies from pp to pp, I wouldn't notice. it's only supposed to be $15 a week or so

the pay check you received on April 3 was for money earned in march. the tax change did not take effect until April 1, 09.

       hi can i get the general orders off the net

what are "general orders" you are looking for?

http://postcom.org/public/2009/donahoe.ppt

usps planned cost reductions

  general orders re the letters that are usually on a clipboard everyday day they are updated and usually announces diferent jobs or updates regaurding the po

/m318

https://liteblue.usps.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/.scr/Login

Madison WI: MDO Michael J Barlow was removed from the facility and is now under Emergency Placement pending investigation.

what does " Emergency Placement " mean???????????

/m321

"Emergency placement" means immediate off duty, no pay status, pending charges.

I believe you mean "Emergency Procedure" not "placement".

article 16.7 of the APWU agreement.
Section 7. Emergency Procedure
An employee may be immediately placed on an off-duty
status (without pay) by the Employer, but remain on the rolls
where the allegation involves intoxication (use of drugs or
alcohol), pilferage, or failure to observe safety rules and
regulations, or in cases where retaining the employee on
duty may result in damage to U.S. Postal Service property,
loss of mail or funds, or where the employee may be injurious
to self or others. The employee shall remain on the rolls (non
pay status) until disposition of the case has been had. If it is
proposed to suspend such an employee for more than thirty
(30) days or discharge the employee, the emergency action
taken under this Section may be made the subject of a
separate grievance.

NETWORK DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. USPS REVAMPS BMC NETWORK TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES. Postal Service plans to realign its bulk mail center (BMC) network and transform it into a three-tier system of Network Distribution Centers (NDCs) have begun. Explaining the new system to business mailers attending the National Postal Forum last week, Senior Vice President of Operations Bill Galligan said Phase I began earlier this month in the Northeast corridor, with the Springfield and Philadelphia BMCs becoming Tier 1 sites, and the New Jersey BMC becoming a Tier 2 site. Outgoing volume from the Springfield and Philadelphia BMCs is sent directly to the New Jersey BMC for consolidation, processing and dispatch. The concept will be tested for 12 weeks and then evaluated before rolling out Phase II. Galligan said this will allow USPS to consolidate the processing of originating mail into fewer sites to increase efficiency and reduce transportation costs, while expanding the surface transportation reach for more products. The new network — when fully implemented — will include:

Eleven Tier 1 NDC facilities which will process and distribute local and destination Standard Mail, periodicals and package services.
Six Tier 2 facilities which will perform all Tier 1 activities, plus distribution of outgoing Standard Mail, periodicals and package services into the network.
Four Tier 3 facilities which will perform all the Tier 1 and Tier 2 functions and act as a consolidation point for less-than-truckload volumes from Tier 2 sites.
With the volume decline and changes in the mail mix, much of the mail the 21 BMCs used to process has gone away. Even before the downturn in the economy, mailers were drop shipping mail directly to the delivery units, bypassing the BMCs entirely. The Network Distribution Center concept was developed to reduce excess capacity to match workload, consolidate operations, increase transportation efficiency, and reduce costs. This transformation will keep the BMC facilities viable.

POSTAL VET! I am a casual in a non duty pay status, I do not have collective bargaining rights, do I have ANY rights? Do you know? HELP?????

Paper dicrepencies, OIG thought money was missing, it was not. I have been through pre disciplinary meeting, with no conclusion except two offers to resign....why? I have done no intentional wrong?

spent, sorry you are a casual. you have no contract protections. you can file a EEO (equal employment opportunity)and/or go with the MSPB (merit systems protection board).

http://www.mspb.gov/sites/mspb/default.aspx/

but trying to fight these bastards is not easy and could cost you more money in the long run.

how did a casual get to be an oic?
spent, your story changes every day.

I thought spent was a PMR.

Is there any one that is at the Madison, Wisconsin PO, that has any updates on Mike Barlow? I'm a retiree from the Madison PO, nad I'd like to know. The guy was not my favorite person. THANKS.

To Postalvet: This Mike Barlow guy from Madison, is, or at least was Tour3 MDO, so how does an agreement with APWU have anything to do with him? I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just wondering. THANKS!

Also, from what I was told, Barlow was caught changing clock rings? Anyone from Madison know?

EEO wouldn't I have to claim discrimination?


What about arbitration?

So far no LOD no discipline, nothing, they are just going to leave me hanging and not schedule me because I AM a Casual. Casuals do OIC's all the time because we are slaves.

Thanks PVet!!!

/m330 what was I talking about??? I don't get it!

/m332 if you are a casual you do not have access to arbitration. check EEO poster in the office you work and see if any apply to you.

try this.
http://www.federal-law.com/?gclid=COGoqr38k5sCFRAhDQodaHHcog

Postavet: you were commenting about the emergency placement vs procedure, ar at least I thought you were. Doesn't matter. {post 330}

/m335 went back and read the posts. I still never heard of emergency placement. I guess different offices use different terms.

postalvet /m336 -- some offices use correct terms, some don't.

OK, everyone that is at work playiing on the computer, please raise your hand. Now go see if you can find something to do. Never mind, better stay on line, you'll just screw something up otherwise.

Is charging a late fee on po boxes that are overdue nation wide or is this just in the new orleans district area. They have been telling us clerks to charge for changing the locks on the post office box as a late fee. I kind of hate doing this. Seems unfair to the customer. Specially when you never actually changed the lock in the first place. Never have time to change locks on boxes that are past due on the rent.

If you're using a POS 1 terminal wit WEB BATS, you can't reissue the box without changing the lock on the box on day 11 of the month.
If the same user wants the same box and the lock has been changed, he can reopen the box and pay the $14 lock change fee and the next 6 months of rent. Take in his old keys and issue new keys for the new lock.
If you haven't changed the lock, the system considers the box unavailable.

Spent: some of our best employees were casuals. The post office uses and abuses them, because they know they can. So I can relate to much of what you are saying. No I was never a casual, I was craft, but I worked with a lot of casuals. They are just people trying to make a living, and a lot of them are older people. Have to be really hurting for money to come to work and get treated that way!

thanks major. I took the job because I felt proud to be a Federal employee, and because I wanted to move up to a PM position. Later to find out I had no rights and was just being taken for granted. This is hard to swallow in itself....then to have an OIG tell me I put $100 a week in my pocket only added to my heartache.

I have added a new forum specifically for PMR's.

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/TwcgbdaYwUr

Hope this helps.

Rick

I understand your experience all too well. Somewhere around 1990, I attended a woman's miniconference. One of the guest speakers stated in that meeting that USPS was changing the way it selected people to fill management positions. No longer best qualified would be selected; but rather, positions would be filled based on "best meeting the needs of the
postal service". Better stated-office politics-fill any and all open positions with females first-black or white-then black men-then others.
No wonder we are sinking fast. The creme must rise to the top for any organization to survive and thrive.

http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=1952

submit ideas to save money or generate revenue

I would like to ask Rick Owens to do a poll asking Postal Employees to vote on an Early out to see how many would leave if they offered it with no penalty or added years with no penalty. I would love to see what the poll would show. Any thoughts?, Rick

B. C. Scott /m360 - Thanks for your participation. In reality there is no need to post a poll because everyone knows what the poll would say...even USPS and OPM. We would definitely want VER's WITHOUT ANY penalty.

The problem, I believe, is that it would take an act of Congress to alter the retirement methods for USPS employees because we follow the same retirement regulations as (most) other federal employees. So a VER without penalty for USPS employees would open the flood gates for VERs without penalty for other federal sectors. I just don't believe OPM or Congress would go for that.

window wonder /m358 - I appreciate it.

I started with USPS in 1972. In 1974 I won a Presidential award for a nationally implemented suggestion for USPS. In 1975 I changed from LSM clerk to city carrier.

That same year (1975) I started submitting 991's for small office PM positions - anywhere within reason around my area. I also completed USPS university courses at Auburn University and countless career awareness conferences.

In 1982 I was offered 204B in the carrier section of my station and then I was detailed to another station, then another. Though I was detailed as CS supervisor for several stations my home station, and station manager, remained the same for years.

During my details I was asked to do OIC at a level 13 office. I had found my dream - I loved the post office and the rural country area. This was the office that I lost the PM position to a PMR.

As stated before I eventually was selected and interviewed for over 20 postmaster positions but failed to ever win one. When my direct manager completed his portion of my 991's he always wrote "does not work well with various ethnic groups." He never failed to put this on my 991. He knew it was a death sentence for me and he also knew it was an outright lie. He was black - I am white. He was, and remains, hardheaded - and I was, and remain, hardheaded.

I cannot blame my failure to win a PM position on this man totally, but I do believe his opinion of me weighed in heavy on the PM selection process.

I lost one PM postion (not the one mentioned before) to a PTF carrier with 18 months service...I had 16 years service. I inquired as to why this happened and our PM said "well, his answers at the interview were fresher than yours." I kid you not.

20/20 vision (looking back) tells me that I was my own worst enemy. I should have filed an EEO against my manager and USPS for their selection process - but because I was afraid of 'pay back' I never did.

I began my career in 1987. Worked as a PTF in a small office; was loaned out to fill in for various PMs at other small offices. I have two college degrees; I learned quickly how to operate a level 11/13 as a fill in PM.
I enrolled and successfully completed a community college "postal technology" program: 18 quarter hours including finance, history, paperwork and forms for city and rural carriers, etc. Completed several other community college classes in computer technology. Twice served as OIC in a level 16 and level 18 office. Applied for several PM positions-each and every time a female-either black or white would be selected. Was propositioned by a female supervisor with no reprisal toward her. She made my life hell for several years before she retired. A female coworker once said "I hate balls" when she became upset with me. No reprisal for her either. Another supervisor put her hand on my shoulder and pulled me around to gain my attention when she was upset with me. Nothing was done about this either. This ship is sinking fast because of this type of "diverse" behavior. If I had done any of these things, I would have been escorted out the door quickly.

Rick, your story about never getting a PM job reminds me of a guy I knew who was a 204b for at least 15 yrs. Every opening for supervisor he applied. Always someone else got it. After awhile I asked someone, why doesn't Chuck ever get a supervisor job. I was told someone did not like him and said he would NEVER get a regular supervisor job. I figured, oh he will eventually. He never did. I never liked the guy, but it was obvious he was not being treated fairly. I thought he was a lousy 204b, but not worse than most of the others. Kind of amazing sometimes.

/m364 the person you are talking about was probably making comments in supervisors meeting that the managers did not like! once you are blackballed you will never get anywhere.

Major /m364 - appreciate the comments.

Here's just one more instance of what happened to my chance of getting promoted. Very briefly...

Delivering mail in a rain storm. Carrying a bag full of newspapers...weighed more than 35 pounds. Terrain was almost all mud. An embankment gave way...I fell. Pulled my back out. Was out sick for 2 days.

On my second day of sick leave the safety office came to my home with his assistant. I was home alone. I dragged myself to the door. When I opened the door and said can I help you - these two did not ask how I was, all they said was "we hate to see you 'F' up this way"

I said "excuse me?" The safety officer said...your request to get OIC detail came across me desk...you can forget that detail."

I told them to get the hell off my steps and never come back. My small daughter could have been standing in ear shot but they did not care.

I laughed 2 months later when this safety officer fell off someone's roof and broke his arm trying to film a postal employee next door that was out on sick leave.

Case closed...yes, my official record was a factor in never getting a small office PM position.

During one postmaster "20 postal trivia question" interview, I was asked about the two on the job injuries I had. I didn't realize my at work injuries had any bearing on my qualities to be a postmaster. Feel free to contact me Rick. It seems we have shared similar situations. I doubt if we are alone.

window wonder /m367 - you can contact me by using the Contact link at the bottom of this page.

bobby baker /m369 - Just exactly what are you implying with your statement?

You seem to receive alot of help or information from PEN's forums and I am pleased that you do - but, why would you post such a statement or am I misunderstanding your meaning?

Rick Owens
PEN

bobby baker /m369

 Mr. Rick Owens is right. You have received much help from these forums that I am certain has been invaluable to you. I seem to remember you from your name. Two years or so ago you were desperate for advise because you lost your job with the USPS do to your OJI. You were out on comp for over a year and the USPS had cut you a form 50 and released you. You were on Mr. Robert McGill's forum. He is a federal lawyer that handles OPM retirements. You were also looking for advise there. Now your seeking advise and have received advise from Mr. Daniel, a retired OWCP claim examiner. I see now that you are on OPM disability. Looks like all the folks that gave you advise help you acheive that. When you were on the ropes, not knowing were to turn, you were very appreciative and respectful when someone helped you. Now that you have achieved your goal, you seem to be cocky and a bit of a wise guy. Seems to me you owe Mr. Owens an apology, big time.

NAPUS received an informational notice from the Postal Service of its intent to conduct Area Mail Processing (AMP) studies at the following New York Metro Area locations:
Newark New Jersey Processing and Distribution Center (P&DC) destinating mail processing operations for possible consolidation into the Dominick V. Daniels (DVD) New Jersey P&DC.

West Jersey, New Jersey P&DC destinating mail processing operations for possible consolidation into the Northern New Jersey Metro, New Jersey P&DC and the Kilmer New Jersey P&DC; and Kilmer New Jersey P&DC originating mail processing operations for possible consolidation into the DVD New Jersey P&DC.

can pmr's join the apwu?
as i've stated earlier we don't have any in the area i work and comparing what a pmr does in a little office 1 or 2 days a week for a few hours at a time vs. a level 20 and above office p.m. makes me scratch my head.

They can't join the APWU.
They can join NAPUS.

thanks!!
enjoy the gorgeous weather today.

Edited by author 07-19-2009 11:13 AM
Messages were deleted because they were no more than flames. If you cannot disagree politely - then just ignore the post. Flames WILL be deleted.

Any discussions regarding PMR's should be taken to our new PMR forum here:

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/TwcgbdaYwUr?rand=9495.67217703105

Your understanding would be appreciated.

Rick Owens
PEN
.

We are in a downward spiral getting ready for us to all loose our jobs. With the President making comments like he did in New Hampshire comparing the Postal Service with Fedex and UPS maybe he needs to educate our President in what the Postal Service does everyday.

Sorry, the Prez didn't say anything that isn't true. Sometimes we are just a little too paranoid.

   never mind

Does the Postal Service have any guidelines about appropriate Retirement Ceremonies?

As far as I know it always depended on whether they like you or not. Some people they bend over backwards for when the person is retiring, others, NOTHING. Always thought that was a really crappy way to treat people.

Besides receiving a certificate stating how many years you have been in the postal service; you will receive nothing. Oh wait, you may receive a surplus USPS plastic mug and/or a USPS inkpen.