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| mark@well.com (Mark Frauenfelder)
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06-18-2002 09:45 AM ET (US)
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I will be offline until June 23. I'm saving your message regarding "$SUBJECT" This message was sent automatically.
Best, Mark
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| dkp
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06-18-2002 09:42 AM ET (US)
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This from The Register... "It's like being stuck in a bad relationship!" says one 'Mark Frauenfelder'. But you only need to take one look at the boy to know that not only is he probably he an expert on the subject, but he's the kind of twitchy, self-loathing bore from whom women flee. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/25750.html
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| bonnieburton
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06-13-2002 10:29 PM ET (US)
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| Number2
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06-13-2002 09:29 PM ET (US)
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As Austin Powers would say, "Nerd Alert!!!"
Get yourself in front of a mirror, dude.
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06-13-2002 10:21 AM ET (US)
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Saw your ad last night. Your famous! The Windows LAN administrator ad has a lot more sting though. I thought it was a law that writer/illustrators had to use Apples.
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MCranium
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06-13-2002 08:30 AM ET (US)
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Whoa! I saw one of the ads during the NBA playoffs, then came into the bedroom to check out the web. I was reading this site and my wife came in and said, "Hey, do you know a Mark Frau..frahfeld...he was just on tv." I had told her about the commercials and that I "knew" one of the "actors" and she saw it before I did because I was reading BoingBoing. Oh the bitter irony. At least I didn't have to watch Drew Carey, although the Nets loss was somewhat painful to witness.
Toot, Toot like the wind, Mark F.! Hey, whatever happened to Carla? She used to be all over the net.
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Stefan Jones
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06-12-2002 03:42 PM ET (US)
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I'll be watching Drew Carey tonight, in hopes of catching Mark's appearance.
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| MegoSteve
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06-11-2002 07:28 PM ET (US)
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| asciirock
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06-11-2002 05:38 PM ET (US)
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Will they be doing a follow-up testimonial ad on your old i-book anytime soon ;-)
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| pr9000
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06-11-2002 04:56 PM ET (US)
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i used to get a good laugh in my training classes when i'd say that adobe illustrator (or other bloatware) was "more confusing than my last relationship ..."
but mark's line is way better. patrick is right: agencies try to get that sort of copy all the time, but when you try hard for something creative, you usually get crap instead. bravo mark.
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| Pat
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06-11-2002 01:37 PM ET (US)
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I beg your pardon, _I_ said he needed an agent.
But now that I think of it, a publicist might be handier. Although friends' experiences with publicists are...varied.
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| Svante Adermark
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06-11-2002 12:31 PM ET (US)
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Did you really S.W.I.T.C.H?
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| Patrick Nielsen Hayden
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06-11-2002 09:22 AM ET (US)
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I notice that, of all the various testimonials, it was from Mark's that Apple (or their ad agency) took their "pull quote" about how using his PC was like being stuck in a bad relationship. The New York Times piece on the ad campaign quotes that line, too.
It's an excellent line. Ad agencies spend tens of thousands of dollars looking for lines that memorable.
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| Grumpy.
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06-11-2002 08:41 AM ET (US)
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Is there an AVI?
The Quicktime downloader doesn't seem to want to work with a proxy.
So if Linux users can't see it, MS users behind a proxy can't see it, where are all these people going to switch from?
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06-11-2002 03:16 AM ET (US)
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Deleted by author 06-11-2002 04:34 AM
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| asciirock
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06-11-2002 02:28 AM ET (US)
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Mark Frauenfelder: welcome to bankable geek cred!
I'm busting a gut here - that is too cool!
If you were to get an agent like buddy says I'll bet it wouldn't be hard to get some more commercial/tv work now. Who knows after a couple more acting gigs you might even land a movie gig - like as Christopher Walken's 'evil hacker sidekick' or something.
Good stuff!
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| iamanorange
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06-11-2002 12:55 AM ET (US)
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Why hello.. you need to get a photo gallery up. It'll do you some good. The one photo is nice but we need more ;)
(Sorry for my randomness. Kickass commercial, btw)
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06-10-2002 11:12 PM ET (US)
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i can't watch it because i'm on the linux.
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Mark Frauenfelder
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06-10-2002 10:41 PM ET (US)
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I signed a SAG contract and got paid some decent up front $.
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06-10-2002 10:15 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 06-10-2002 10:16 PM
Over on Metafilter, they're debating whether Mark Frauenfelder is a real person or not:
Which is an improvement over the tired OS wars the makes up the rest of the thread. Suprised to hear myself say this (given how many of those flame wars I've started on vrious mailing lists) but aren't we all really beyond that sort of discussion by now?
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06-10-2002 10:07 PM ET (US)
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Great ad, Mark, no jokes. But please tell me you scored more than a lousy peripheral. If so, you need an agent.
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Mark Frauenfelder
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06-10-2002 09:08 PM ET (US)
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> Apple Marketing Droid
If they get paid more than a t-shirt iron-on maker, I'm ready to sign up.
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06-10-2002 08:32 PM ET (US)
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Over on Metafilter, they're debating whether Mark Frauenfelder is a real person or not: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/17705#288116I wonder how his daughter will cope with learning that her daddy is a "Apple Marketing Droid."
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| Abby Normal
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06-10-2002 07:37 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 06-10-2002 07:37 PM
Gee Mark, suffer those slings and arrows, baby! BAH! Just ignore them. They reel in shock. Bravo for your courage to even consider switching... going against that HUGE status quo, and welcome to the coolest, most rock solid computing experience in the world.
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06-10-2002 07:17 PM ET (US)
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Poor Mark, he gets a break with an Apple ad and then gets called a bad actor. Good job, I hope you take your anxious regular guy 'act' on the road soon!
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Mark Frauenfelder
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06-10-2002 05:08 PM ET (US)
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Thanks MrBaliHai -- I've been practicing it 24/7 my entire life. Glad it's paid off!
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06-10-2002 04:58 PM ET (US)
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You've got that "deer in the headlights" look down pat!
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| JIMWICh
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06-10-2002 04:55 PM ET (US)
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That's such an awesome ad! They really captured your true Markness!
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| Cary
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06-10-2002 04:39 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 06-10-2002 04:43 PM
I hear ya, Stef, but I just dropped in on "Google" for just a sec, and I tracked somebody down who I haven't heard from in 17 YEARS-- all in a matter of SECONDS! I can't help it! I'm hooked already!! The 'Net rocks!!! And please, someone get Mark & Carla's blessing/permission, & bring back the 'bOING!
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06-10-2002 04:33 PM ET (US)
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Cary: Welcome aboard, but be sure to get outside now and then. I have a friend who stayed on-line so much he forgot how to walk on dirt.
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| ernie
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06-10-2002 04:31 PM ET (US)
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Hehe, yer bringing back memories of early 90's strolls down the (old) Drag near UT campus Austin, to captain Quackenbush's where I'd light up a clove and unfurl the new Mondo 2000 and bOINGbOing issue I just bought at Europa books in the Dobie.
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| Cary
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06-10-2002 04:24 PM ET (US)
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And Gorgar, you're right: the Amiga reigns supreme! And by the way, I'm 39, this is my VERY FIRST internet experience, and who better to do it with but one of the co-creators of the greatest literary entity ever conceived-- "bOINGbOING"!! This is fun! I've only been on fo only a few minutes, & already I understand why people get addicted to this stuff so easily!! Hello, everybody!!!
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Higgins Whilshire IV, Esq
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06-10-2002 04:21 PM ET (US)
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Why do you all have the expression of someone who walked into a room where some else farted?
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| Cary
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06-10-2002 04:17 PM ET (US)
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Hey, DaveFaris: Don'tcha know looks count for everything?
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06-10-2002 04:15 PM ET (US)
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That's great, Mark! How much did they pay you for that?
Apple v. Mac Holy War notwithstanding, I don't have much respect for people (like another Mac switcher, Liza) who buy a Mac because it "looks prettier." But otherwise, whatever.
Anyway, great ad, Mark!
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| cary
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06-10-2002 04:14 PM ET (US)
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Mark & Carla rule!! Oh yeah: Nice ad, too...
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06-10-2002 04:08 PM ET (US)
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wow. sexy.
yes, especially the teeth.
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06-10-2002 04:04 PM ET (US)
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Boy, I wish my teeth looked as nice as Mark's.
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06-10-2002 03:35 PM ET (US)
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Don't worry about me, Yofal, I'm just a bitter old Amiga user. (snickers erupt in back of room)
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06-10-2002 03:31 PM ET (US)
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So is Mark a recent "switcher"? Or is he relating his experiences of long ago. He's hanging around with some serious Macheads now...
And Gorgar is getting rather defensive. Not sure why...
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| Kernel Santos
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06-10-2002 03:29 PM ET (US)
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Mark. Try not to take this the wrong way, but in that picture you look like Jack Burton (Kurt Russel) in Big Trouble in Little China. More specifically the scene where he goes to see the White Tiger incognito. In any case...congrats.
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MCranium
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06-10-2002 03:09 PM ET (US)
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From Metafilter: Metafilter | Comments on 17705 Anyone else notice the bizarre homogeneity of the people in the new Apple commercials? Doesn't take a genius to figure out their target demographic... posted by krunk at 10:20 AM PST on June 10
Anyone else notice that those "testimonial" pictures on the Apple Switch page really look like actors--bad ones at that. They all appear to be trying too hard to look ordinary. Creepy. posted by mooncrow at 10:24 AM PST on June 10
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06-10-2002 03:03 PM ET (US)
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"Interrotron?" Wow, sounds like something General Fong would strap Buck Rogers into make him spill the location of the Underground City.
One of my serious hard-boiled CS friends recently switched to Mac on the strength of OS X. It really does look damn cool, and it's got Unixy underpinnings, so why not?
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06-10-2002 02:53 PM ET (US)
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Andrew, how long has Mac = Unix? Not nearly as long as the Mac hype. Like I said, *now* Macs can multitask. *Now* they may actually live up to the hype. And Intel clones can run a lot of OS's besides Windows. And it was Dan Ackroyd that you paraphrased.
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MCranium
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06-10-2002 02:39 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 06-10-2002 02:40 PM
That was cool! We should have streaming video of all Boingers.
[stupid comment about hair deleted in post production]
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| andrew
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06-10-2002 02:32 PM ET (US)
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to paraphrase bill murray ... gorgar, you ignorant slut. macs run unix. intel clones run windows. 'nuff said.
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Mark Frauenfelder
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06-10-2002 02:13 PM ET (US)
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The TV ad can be seen today on major cable networks like ESPN, CNBC, Comedy Central and Fox News and will appear this week on ABC's Boston 24/7 and The Drew Carey Show, as well as NBC's ER and NBA Finals broadcasts.
Print ads are in this week's issues of Time and Newsweek, and will appear this month in a number of other major magazines.
And the Interrotron was a blast!
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06-10-2002 02:10 PM ET (US)
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Well congrats Mark, but I'd like to see one of these mythical Macs that "just work". At least they actually multitask now.
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06-10-2002 02:08 PM ET (US)
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How was being probed by the INTERROTRON?
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| Billistic
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06-10-2002 02:05 PM ET (US)
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Windows machines aren't that bad you wimp.
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06-10-2002 02:03 PM ET (US)
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Are these ads running now?
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06-10-2002 01:55 PM ET (US)
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I happen to know that Mark is not "real"...so it's still an open issue in my book.
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06-10-2002 01:55 PM ET (US)
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we were just discussing weather or not these were actual "real people" I guess that's settled.
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